I agree with you most of the way except at the start, you missed what I was saying and one minor, but very important bit of reality.... slavery abolishment was NOT a tactic at all. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave on the day it was passed. It specifically was an attempt to use the threat of abolishion and give a path to avoid it.
That said, its like I said, I would support some of these wars if not for 2 things. 1. I don't believe the stated reasons for them are the real ones and 2. I don't have faith that these military solutions work. Its kind of like being a first responder who shows up to the scene, does some first aid, and then leaves the victims laying on the ground, banadaged up, hoping someone else will come along and finish the job.
Honestly, I am skeptical we can do more good than harm with how we engage and why we engage. A lot of this is trust. I don't trust the intentions or judgement of the people making the decisions and trust they are more likely to cock it up than help.
I had no idea, mostly because I don't care about ads, but I run requestpolicy because, I consider the whole mode of operation on the web these days a bit like if every time you ran into a person you knew with a group of their random friends who you may or may not have met before, you went and immediately gave oral sex to each person in the group every time.
If they want me to see ads, they should host them on the same site I wanted to load, otherwise I am not going to see it. Sorry I don't trust that every affiliate site that every site I go to decides to allow to accept money to link is "clean enough to raw dog"
I prefer the excuse to the reasoning. I remember listening to a speech by Bush where he was making the case for war and talking about liberty and it just turned my stomach. The thought in my head was "If I believed that you actually believed a word you were saying, I might be with you".
Its like I always like to point out with the civil war. We know the Emancipation Proclamation would have allowed slavery to continue. We know there were 4 slave owning states still in the Union and any who rejoined before the deadline would be able to keep slavery alive. The war was not fought (by the Union) over slavery.
This is why i dislike Lincoln and call him a terrible president. The country should be able to break up, the several states deserve the right to make that choice. Had the war been, from day one, a war of liberation against slavery, fuck, I would paint that man a hero for the ages....but he didn't...it was a war against self determination.
In the end, you have to seperate the window dressing from the structure and not be so in love with the trappings that you ignore the rotting beam under the floor boards.
This of course has me thinking of the various emotional responses I have had to games, and I would love to see this sort of research done more to pin down various bits of how it works.
Out of all the games I have played, many have producd achievment highs, a few have produced the occasional jumpy anxious vibe, but only one game series ever "got me" and did it consistently and that was Assasins Creed.
Its funny because its not a FPS game, its rather unrealistic in so many ways but....there is something about jumping or rather, jumping, missing, and falling in that game that is just a heart stopper. I can't count the number of times I actually gasped and wanted to grab my chest physically after missing a jump.
No other game, much less series* has brought out such strong moments of feeling for me, and I play a lot of games.
* I have not actually played all of them, I have played to halfway through revelations, so this may or may not continue with the latest
Unions, for the most part, have been exterminated. However, the few that do still exist and are strong.... Prison Gaurds and Police. They have had some rather impressive blooming in the last few years; and they most certainly do NOT stop at advocating for better working conditions.
In fact, the Union supported the NYPD use of "Stop and Frisk". These unions regularly oppose drug law reform, and anything else that might reduce the need for their "services". They are some of the most powerful groups in the entire country now.
Yup. Anyone who has been in the workforce and not at a place thats small and full of happy people should have been able to piece this one together on their own. Whenever someone leaves a company it is always either "He has moved on to other opportunities" (he left on his own) or "He is no longer with the company" (we fired him)
You just about never get more than that officially, anything else will be off the record hallway talk. About the only exception to that I have seen was an old manager of mine who had a habbit of occasionally getting so frustrated with his managers that he would end up venting a little to the team. It probably wasn't smart on his part but, neither was continueing to work there, which, is why I left.
Well yes, a point which I made to a friend recently who was talking about employment rights. Sure they can't fire you for THAT, but they CAN just fire you and not really say much about why.
This isn't even like....unusual here. This is the kind of "protection" we are used to, the kind that is just enough to make most people think its taken care of and ignore it.
Take "Fair Housing". Our version of it works like this. As a landlord (which I was for a while) you can't discriminate against age, race, sex, marital status etc. That is unless you only own 1 or 2 units in the same building and live in one of them yourself. If that is the case, then the courts have ruled you have the right to not live with anyone you don't want to, and can discriminate for any reason.
Now where it gets really funny, is when you are such a landlord. Even though you can use any criteria you want, you are still bound by fair housing laws not to put anything that would discourage any protected groups. So, even if I own a 2 bedroom little shack where my roomate and I will hardly be able to breath at the same time....I can't say anything like "no couples" or "no kids", and no matter how racist I am and how uncomfortable anyone of any color at all would be around me, I can't state that either.
I mean, that wasn't my situation and that wasn't me, but the irony of the situation was not lost on me. Our laws are just fucked up and designed to look good while providing almost no protections for anyone, even when they try.
Yes, I knew that and accepted those risks years ago. Please, flag me. I revel in the thought that somebody gets paid to read the shit I put out. I hope they feel every bit of hate and vitriol I pile on, and if my use of encryption and tools like tor helps divert these shitbags attention away and helps make their efforts useless....then well, I signed myself up.
Hell, back when there was a protest page to email copies of RSA to an account outside the country...I happily participated and sent that email.
Well, I guess thats my problem, I look at Democrats and Republicans who agree about 99% of the time..... agree on their love for the military industrial complex (just not what parts) agree on their love of wars (if not always the same ones or same tactics), agree we don't deserve many rights, agree we don't deserve privacy, agree we deserve to be lied to about their surviellance of us, agree that its ok to bust down the doors of private homes over flowers, agree that arrests for flowers like cannabis is not a violation of liberty.....the litany goes on.
I have never in my life looked at one of these scumbags and thought "his interests align with mine". Not once.
and? I said I had no idea who he was before this discussion, the same point remains either way. I guess I still have no idea who he is. Its such a small "community" you know.
Kind of like the "community" of breathers and drinkers.
I didn't know who this guy was, but now I see people listing a littany of things I either avoid, or grudgingly accept because its easier to do so than figure out what I have to do to rip it out and replace it and keep it out through updates.
Don't get me wrong, network manager works. I use it, but, whenever I have had an issue with it, I have generally found it to be far more of a time sink than its worth and very hard to make heads or tails out of if you need to get under the covers
Basically, it is, in many ways, very similar to the problems I had 13 years ago when I said "screw redhat, this debian system is cleaner and I can figure it out without the gui" . (of course I ended up having to learn for work anyway, so I guess the joke was on me...twice now)
That said.... my main disagreement with him is this idea that there is an "open source community". Its too big for "a community". That is like saying the "Eastern seaboard community has a bunch of assholes" or "boston has a lot of assholes", yup, all over the place.
I think he draws so much ire because of the visibility of his software. Its not a problem endemic to open source, you think closed source companies don't get nasty emails? Hell, I have SENT companies nasty emails about their software....maybe not death threats but, certainly some very choice metaphors about their general material makeup have certainly been given.
To be fair, no it isn't. You are confused, which is understandable since you have two major parties who both actually like this state of confusion since....and this is the important part....neither of them is actually all that ideological. Big tent parties are not ideological parties unless the ideology is "maintain power"....which is why all big tent parties (including the Democrats) are fundamentally conservative.
What it is is a position of monied interests which one of the parties has allied itself with in its quest to the one ideology the party itself has....maintaining power by keeping the money rolling in.
such a mutationâ"or more likely series of mutationsâ"might physically be possible, itâ(TM)s highly unlikely. In fact, thereâ(TM)s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically.
I thought "Zero day" refered to when the bug or exploit became known to either the developer or public?
Developers can't fix bugs they don't know about it, so "day zero" is really the day the fact that there is a bug becomes known and fixable. Up to that point, including while it is being used in the wild but not yet discovered, it is still "zero day"
That is the obsession on both sides. Criminals want zero days because it means they are ahead of the game. Everyone else worries about them when they are discovered because there is always a question of whether it was already exploited.
Well that is pretty much how they got away with the drug war for so long, keep the enforcement to the poor minority communities, and let all the white suburban kids off with a stern talking to and treatment options.....has worked wonders for years.
Its perfectly ok to stomp your jack boot down as long as it lands on the poor, and preferably the dark skinned poor, but, this is America, we are pretty equal opportunity about that too, I have seen plenty of poor white people find themselves known by the system, but, its almost never anyone who works in suburbs or has any money, they always have outs.
Hell, I two friends. One of them poor, one of them owns a company and makes decent money. Both of them got arrested trafficing large amounts, one had 70 lbs, the other had 24 lbs. One of them got a few years of probation, the other actually did some time and was on house arrest.
Wanna take any guess on which one had more pot and which one did more time? Little hint: it was the guy who could afford a lawyer.
Actually, this is the US, the selling of the evidence and even its seizure is independent of the trial, in fact, it would be handled in a seperate civil trial under a much more leniant standard of evidence, allowing for all of his assets to be seized and kept EVEN IF HIS TRIAL RETURNS A NOT-GUILTY VERDICT.
He can actually be found not-guilty, let free, and they still get to keep his stuff.
Maybe its because I have been in online forums since I was a teenager, but, as far as I am concerned your "real name" is exactly whatever you say it is, and, you can have as many real names as you want, because your real name is whatever you accept that people call you. Period. That is as much realness to your name as I recognize.
You tell me your name is voltron. Your name *IS* voltron as far as I am concerned. your real one.
> I'm far more afraid of a terrorist/criminal organization getting access to these back doors, and reading all of the > encrypted documents that companies (including government contractors) want to secure, than hidden > communication allowing them to get away.
Well overall, terrorists are the least concern since there are really so few of them and they hardly need this sort of break. If anything, they are helped more by the encryption than hindered by it....but....who cares? They are a minor concern at best, regardless of what they want you to think.
Criminal orgs however, now we are talking. This sort of backdoor can be used for everything from extortion to corperate espionage. I am far more afraid that this will be used by someone with an agenda to find people in positions of power he can blackmail. I am FAR more worried about the influences of modern day J Edgars than a few organized criminals so despised that they need to hide from everyone at every turn already.
Thing is, we would never really even know the extent of the damage done because so much of it would be so quietly kept.
The thing is, search and rescue efforts, wildfire inspection, all make sense for this sort of exception; but you are right a blanket "emergency situation" may as well be no requirement at all because anything can be viewed as an emergency and anyone claiming emergency is almost always given the benefit of the doubt for anything short of an outright hoax.
> Another technique would be leaking a fake script, claiming to have read a draft manuscript, etc.
Of course, the interesting thing about this techinique is you can only tell it if it fails to work, because the case where it works, and the case where it fails but the desired result was going to happen anyway are indistinguishable unless the author actually pipes up and comments on it.
This reminds me of a friend of mine who used to flash his high beams erratically as he came up to red lights because he knew thats how the fire trucks signal to give them a green. I tried to tell him that there was no way this was going to work, but he was convinced it did because....of course.... fairly often he would flash his lights and the light would turn green for him....
I do the same thing with my hand pretending I have the force....it "works" pretty well too. Which is to say....the light always changes.
I really have to say, deus ex machina endings are one of my personal pet peeves across literature, its the hallmark of lazy uninteresting story telling. In fact, about the only place I was amused to see one was at the end of the one Deus Ex game I played to the end.... and not because I thought it was even particularly good, it wasn't, its just.... its the name of the game, so its at least amusing in that one context.
Then please explain why the single most common reason for a person to be fired from the entire network of hospitals I worked for was inappropriate records access? Perhaps you would like to tell me why one of the major projects then was to move from offline records access auditing to real time auditing and flagging?
Perhaps you might have some insight into how it failed by causing us to start encrypting all of our laptops? \
The problem with healthcare is momentum. Its huge, there is a lot of it, and its highly federated and highly disorganized.In fact its often less a case of "we don't care" and more a case that they tend to be in over their heads keeping up with the infrastructure they have and the way its growing, and balk at allocating more resources to IT, since it already has eaten up more than they naively expected.
I have had to watch entire presentations that boil down to "we want to generate terabytes of data at an alarming rate and we don't see why it should cost very much based on just ignoring any other costs and looking at hard drive prices"
Seriously, the disconnect in healthcare is serious, and I agree the law is only somewhat helping but.... fact is the institutions really are scared of the penalties and those penalties really do trump their other considerations many times.
Its not perfect, but, on the security front, I have to say, I really think nearly all forward progress on security in healthcare can be directly attributed to it. I mean, I can think of a few minor exceptions like.... general concern about certain rare but frightening events like baby swaps or thefts that caused a good bit of increased security around birthing areas, but aside from that, I can't think of much that wasn't directly HIPAA requirement driven.
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I agree with you most of the way except at the start, you missed what I was saying and one minor, but very important bit of reality.... slavery abolishment was NOT a tactic at all. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free a single slave on the day it was passed. It specifically was an attempt to use the threat of abolishion and give a path to avoid it.
That said, its like I said, I would support some of these wars if not for 2 things. 1. I don't believe the stated reasons for them are the real ones and 2. I don't have faith that these military solutions work. Its kind of like being a first responder who shows up to the scene, does some first aid, and then leaves the victims laying on the ground, banadaged up, hoping someone else will come along and finish the job.
Honestly, I am skeptical we can do more good than harm with how we engage and why we engage. A lot of this is trust. I don't trust the intentions or judgement of the people making the decisions and trust they are more likely to cock it up than help.
I had no idea, mostly because I don't care about ads, but I run requestpolicy because, I consider the whole mode of operation on the web these days a bit like if every time you ran into a person you knew with a group of their random friends who you may or may not have met before, you went and immediately gave oral sex to each person in the group every time.
If they want me to see ads, they should host them on the same site I wanted to load, otherwise I am not going to see it. Sorry I don't trust that every affiliate site that every site I go to decides to allow to accept money to link is "clean enough to raw dog"
I prefer the excuse to the reasoning. I remember listening to a speech by Bush where he was making the case for war and talking about liberty and it just turned my stomach. The thought in my head was "If I believed that you actually believed a word you were saying, I might be with you".
Its like I always like to point out with the civil war. We know the Emancipation Proclamation would have allowed slavery to continue. We know there were 4 slave owning states still in the Union and any who rejoined before the deadline would be able to keep slavery alive. The war was not fought (by the Union) over slavery.
This is why i dislike Lincoln and call him a terrible president. The country should be able to break up, the several states deserve the right to make that choice. Had the war been, from day one, a war of liberation against slavery, fuck, I would paint that man a hero for the ages....but he didn't...it was a war against self determination.
In the end, you have to seperate the window dressing from the structure and not be so in love with the trappings that you ignore the rotting beam under the floor boards.
This of course has me thinking of the various emotional responses I have had to games, and I would love to see this sort of research done more to pin down various bits of how it works.
Out of all the games I have played, many have producd achievment highs, a few have produced the occasional jumpy anxious vibe, but only one game series ever "got me" and did it consistently and that was Assasins Creed.
Its funny because its not a FPS game, its rather unrealistic in so many ways but....there is something about jumping or rather, jumping, missing, and falling in that game that is just a heart stopper. I can't count the number of times I actually gasped and wanted to grab my chest physically after missing a jump.
No other game, much less series* has brought out such strong moments of feeling for me, and I play a lot of games.
* I have not actually played all of them, I have played to halfway through revelations, so this may or may not continue with the latest
Actually, both of you are kind of right.
Unions, for the most part, have been exterminated. However, the few that do still exist and are strong.... Prison Gaurds and Police. They have had some rather impressive blooming in the last few years; and they most certainly do NOT stop at advocating for better working conditions.
In fact, the Union supported the NYPD use of "Stop and Frisk". These unions regularly oppose drug law reform, and anything else that might reduce the need for their "services". They are some of the most powerful groups in the entire country now.
Yup. Anyone who has been in the workforce and not at a place thats small and full of happy people should have been able to piece this one together on their own. Whenever someone leaves a company it is always either "He has moved on to other opportunities" (he left on his own) or "He is no longer with the company" (we fired him)
You just about never get more than that officially, anything else will be off the record hallway talk. About the only exception to that I have seen was an old manager of mine who had a habbit of occasionally getting so frustrated with his managers that he would end up venting a little to the team. It probably wasn't smart on his part but, neither was continueing to work there, which, is why I left.
Well yes, a point which I made to a friend recently who was talking about employment rights. Sure they can't fire you for THAT, but they CAN just fire you and not really say much about why.
This isn't even like....unusual here. This is the kind of "protection" we are used to, the kind that is just enough to make most people think its taken care of and ignore it.
Take "Fair Housing". Our version of it works like this. As a landlord (which I was for a while) you can't discriminate against age, race, sex, marital status etc. That is unless you only own 1 or 2 units in the same building and live in one of them yourself. If that is the case, then the courts have ruled you have the right to not live with anyone you don't want to, and can discriminate for any reason.
Now where it gets really funny, is when you are such a landlord. Even though you can use any criteria you want, you are still bound by fair housing laws not to put anything that would discourage any protected groups. So, even if I own a 2 bedroom little shack where my roomate and I will hardly be able to breath at the same time....I can't say anything like "no couples" or "no kids", and no matter how racist I am and how uncomfortable anyone of any color at all would be around me, I can't state that either.
I mean, that wasn't my situation and that wasn't me, but the irony of the situation was not lost on me. Our laws are just fucked up and designed to look good while providing almost no protections for anyone, even when they try.
Yes, I knew that and accepted those risks years ago. Please, flag me. I revel in the thought that somebody gets paid to read the shit I put out. I hope they feel every bit of hate and vitriol I pile on, and if my use of encryption and tools like tor helps divert these shitbags attention away and helps make their efforts useless....then well, I signed myself up.
Hell, back when there was a protest page to email copies of RSA to an account outside the country...I happily participated and sent that email.
Well, I guess thats my problem, I look at Democrats and Republicans who agree about 99% of the time.....
agree on their love for the military industrial complex (just not what parts) agree on their love of wars (if not always the same ones or same tactics), agree we don't deserve many rights, agree we don't deserve privacy, agree we deserve to be lied to about their surviellance of us, agree that its ok to bust down the doors of private homes over flowers, agree that arrests for flowers like cannabis is not a violation of liberty.....the litany goes on.
I have never in my life looked at one of these scumbags and thought "his interests align with mine". Not once.
and? I said I had no idea who he was before this discussion, the same point remains either way.
I guess I still have no idea who he is. Its such a small "community" you know.
Kind of like the "community" of breathers and drinkers.
This right here.
I didn't know who this guy was, but now I see people listing a littany of things I either avoid, or grudgingly accept because its easier to do so than figure out what I have to do to rip it out and replace it and keep it out through updates.
Don't get me wrong, network manager works. I use it, but, whenever I have had an issue with it, I have generally found it to be far more of a time sink than its worth and very hard to make heads or tails out of if you need to get under the covers
Basically, it is, in many ways, very similar to the problems I had 13 years ago when I said "screw redhat, this debian system is cleaner and I can figure it out without the gui" . (of course I ended up having to learn for work anyway, so I guess the joke was on me...twice now)
That said.... my main disagreement with him is this idea that there is an "open source community". Its too big for "a community". That is like saying the "Eastern seaboard community has a bunch of assholes" or "boston has a lot of assholes", yup, all over the place.
I think he draws so much ire because of the visibility of his software. Its not a problem endemic to open source, you think closed source companies don't get nasty emails? Hell, I have SENT companies nasty emails about their software....maybe not death threats but, certainly some very choice metaphors about their general material makeup have certainly been given.
This is not "the community" this is "the public".
To be fair, no it isn't. You are confused, which is understandable since you have two major parties who both actually like this state of confusion since....and this is the important part....neither of them is actually all that ideological. Big tent parties are not ideological parties unless the ideology is "maintain power"....which is why all big tent parties (including the Democrats) are fundamentally conservative.
What it is is a position of monied interests which one of the parties has allied itself with in its quest to the one ideology the party itself has....maintaining power by keeping the money rolling in.
Really? One mutation?
http://www.scientificamerican....
I thought "Zero day" refered to when the bug or exploit became known to either the developer or public?
Developers can't fix bugs they don't know about it, so "day zero" is really the day the fact that there is a bug becomes known and fixable. Up to that point, including while it is being used in the wild but not yet discovered, it is still "zero day"
That is the obsession on both sides. Criminals want zero days because it means they are ahead of the game. Everyone else worries about them when they are discovered because there is always a question of whether it was already exploited.
I really think the original article made that joke so much better with the meme they included:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-...
Leaving us to ponder, how many bugs would bug xibit enough for xibit to exhibit bugs?
This whole thing is way too meta, I am going back to bed until it is over.
Well that is pretty much how they got away with the drug war for so long, keep the enforcement to the poor minority communities, and let all the white suburban kids off with a stern talking to and treatment options.....has worked wonders for years.
Its perfectly ok to stomp your jack boot down as long as it lands on the poor, and preferably the dark skinned poor, but, this is America, we are pretty equal opportunity about that too, I have seen plenty of poor white people find themselves known by the system, but, its almost never anyone who works in suburbs or has any money, they always have outs.
Hell, I two friends. One of them poor, one of them owns a company and makes decent money. Both of them got arrested trafficing large amounts, one had 70 lbs, the other had 24 lbs. One of them got a few years of probation, the other actually did some time and was on house arrest.
Wanna take any guess on which one had more pot and which one did more time? Little hint: it was the guy who could afford a lawyer.
Actually, this is the US, the selling of the evidence and even its seizure is independent of the trial, in fact, it would be handled in a seperate civil trial under a much more leniant standard of evidence, allowing for all of his assets to be seized and kept EVEN IF HIS TRIAL RETURNS A NOT-GUILTY VERDICT.
He can actually be found not-guilty, let free, and they still get to keep his stuff.
Maybe its because I have been in online forums since I was a teenager, but, as far as I am concerned your "real name" is exactly whatever you say it is, and, you can have as many real names as you want, because your real name is whatever you accept that people call you. Period. That is as much realness to your name as I recognize.
You tell me your name is voltron. Your name *IS* voltron as far as I am concerned. your real one.
Almost makes you wonder if it isn't the news reports themselves that are the real terrorist attacks.
> I'm far more afraid of a terrorist/criminal organization getting access to these back doors, and reading all of the
> encrypted documents that companies (including government contractors) want to secure, than hidden
> communication allowing them to get away.
Well overall, terrorists are the least concern since there are really so few of them and they hardly need this sort of break. If anything, they are helped more by the encryption than hindered by it....but....who cares? They are a minor concern at best, regardless of what they want you to think.
Criminal orgs however, now we are talking. This sort of backdoor can be used for everything from extortion to corperate espionage. I am far more afraid that this will be used by someone with an agenda to find people in positions of power he can blackmail. I am FAR more worried about the influences of modern day J Edgars than a few organized criminals so despised that they need to hide from everyone at every turn already.
Thing is, we would never really even know the extent of the damage done because so much of it would be so quietly kept.
However, this time it was based on a credible threat of reports of pidgeons overheard shortly before the event exclaiming "Coup! Coup!"
The thing is, search and rescue efforts, wildfire inspection, all make sense for this sort of exception; but you are right a blanket "emergency situation" may as well be no requirement at all because anything can be viewed as an emergency and anyone claiming emergency is almost always given the benefit of the doubt for anything short of an outright hoax.
> Another technique would be leaking a fake script, claiming to have read a draft manuscript, etc.
Of course, the interesting thing about this techinique is you can only tell it if it fails to work, because the case where it works, and the case where it fails but the desired result was going to happen anyway are indistinguishable unless the author actually pipes up and comments on it.
This reminds me of a friend of mine who used to flash his high beams erratically as he came up to red lights because he knew thats how the fire trucks signal to give them a green. I tried to tell him that there was no way this was going to work, but he was convinced it did because....of course.... fairly often he would flash his lights and the light would turn green for him....
I do the same thing with my hand pretending I have the force....it "works" pretty well too. Which is to say....the light always changes.
I really have to say, deus ex machina endings are one of my personal pet peeves across literature, its the hallmark of lazy uninteresting story telling. In fact, about the only place I was amused to see one was at the end of the one Deus Ex game I played to the end.... and not because I thought it was even particularly good, it wasn't, its just.... its the name of the game, so its at least amusing in that one context.
Then please explain why the single most common reason for a person to be fired from the entire network of hospitals I worked for was inappropriate records access? Perhaps you would like to tell me why one of the major projects then was to move from offline records access auditing to real time auditing and flagging?
Perhaps you might have some insight into how it failed by causing us to start encrypting all of our laptops? \
The problem with healthcare is momentum. Its huge, there is a lot of it, and its highly federated and highly disorganized.In fact its often less a case of "we don't care" and more a case that they tend to be in over their heads keeping up with the infrastructure they have and the way its growing, and balk at allocating more resources to IT, since it already has eaten up more than they naively expected.
I have had to watch entire presentations that boil down to "we want to generate terabytes of data at an alarming rate and we don't see why it should cost very much based on just ignoring any other costs and looking at hard drive prices"
Seriously, the disconnect in healthcare is serious, and I agree the law is only somewhat helping but.... fact is the institutions really are scared of the penalties and those penalties really do trump their other considerations many times.
Its not perfect, but, on the security front, I have to say, I really think nearly all forward progress on security in healthcare can be directly attributed to it. I mean, I can think of a few minor exceptions like.... general concern about certain rare but frightening events like baby swaps or thefts that caused a good bit of increased security around birthing areas, but aside from that, I can't think of much that wasn't directly HIPAA requirement driven.