ugh. Can we please stop with the one button mouse thing?
No.
That wasn't a mistake. It was a conscious design decision that you disagreed with. Macintosh users were perfectly happy with it.
That's a silly premise. I don't know or care about conscious design decisions of the latest fighter jets because I don't use them. I used Apple computers alongside others (three button SGIs and two button beige boxes), and the one button mouse was a terrible abortion that required two hands (open-apple-click) to use to marginal effectiveness.
You might as well say that the 2 button mouse was a mistake because it didn't have a scroll wheel.
Only a fool would say that considering that 2 and 3 button mice came before scroll wheel mice. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that newer scroll wheels could act as 3 button mice, and that the newest Apple mice have a scroll ball and two buttons (despite appearing to be one).
Programmers (and any professionals) should learn humanities so that they can easier communicate with others. "Darmok" is a good example: artsy folk love allusion, and it would be good to stretch your mind beyond loops and branches.
I say, I say: It's a joke son, you're supposed to laugh!
It's the usual line I (and other sysadmins) like to trot out against Mozilla, despite our personal love for Firefox, just altered to fit the story title.
I don't get what the hell is wrong with EOL'ing version 4... just f'in install version 5!
it sets a bad precedent. Sure, 5 seems like 4.0.2, but maybe 6 or 7 will have a large change in functionality, and your choices will be lose old functionality, lose security patches, or fork the code. They should be EOLing current version -2 or -3.
How that's different from an update from the last version of FF 3.6 to FF 4.0?
Mozilla _just_ EOLed 3.5.x. 3.6.x isn't EOL yet. People expected that the release of 5 would be concurrent with a security patch for 4, because that makes sense. Mozilla showed they lacked sense with the awesomebar debacle.
Cool - so we're going to throw ourselves out of the country? After all, we did steal the land and kill the people who were here first, aside from the descendents of those here before us, we're all descendants of 100% illegal immigrants.
I didn't steal anything or kill anyone. I might be descended from an anchor baby, but I'm here legally.
Back in the early days of America, there were laws prohibiting slaves from running away, because slaves were running away. These new slaves run _to_ the slaveowners, and the owners are ignoring the current laws about "hiring" them, just like the slaves are ignoring the laws about being in this country without going through the immigration process.
I was listening to NPR today, and Terri Gross was interviewing some mayor in Georgia where they recently passed a no-illegal-worker law, and he was whining about crops rotting in the fields because no migrant workers showed up to pick. So they tried to send in parolees and people serving community service sentences to do the work (instead of paying a decent wage; they were probably cheaper than the migrants [the comserve people were slaves]), and the workers complained that it was too hard, so the mayor concluded that no americans would do the work (for less than minimum wage). If the oil industry were found to employ illegals, they'd be slapped down pretty quickly.
Of course anti-social suburban white teenagers have an interest in fighting anti-immigration laws. Who do you think they get their pot from? It's obvious. Spicks that jump the border with 10 pounds of hooch shoved up their ass.
Maybe the broke ass ones. I prefer to hit up the white kid down the street who has the home-grown killer.
FYI: he shoves it up there too to match the foreign flavor.
Video conferencing is useful for meetings or joint calls because it allows you to know who's talking without them having to announce themselves over the phone every time. Otherwise, like you said, there's no point.
She touched the isolation knob, so that no one else could speak to her. Then she touched the lighting apparatus, and the little room was plunged into darkness.
"Be quick!" She called, her irritation returning. "Be quick, Kuno; here I am in the dark wasting my time."
But it was fully fifteen seconds before the round plate that she held in her hands began to glow. A faint blue light shot across it, darkening to purple, and presently she could see the image of her son, who lived on the other side of the earth, and he could see her.
"Kuno, how slow you are."
He smiled gravely.
"I really believe you enjoy dawdling."
"I have called you before, mother, but you were always busy or isolated. I have something particular to say."
Primitive, but a video-phone. Envisioned in or prior too 1907
As a code monkey in training I don't get you, people. From what I can gather if Mozilla had released the same code in the same timeframe but versioned as 4.1 you would apparently not hate it but if they version it as 5.0 then "hurr durr, they suck" - apart from showing just how bloody stupid and retarded plugin compatibility check is, what does this change for you?
Train a lot more please. This breaks the plugins, as mentioned, but it also plays havoc with software audits and patch management programs (you almost have to use a third party patch manager for firefox if you have hundreds of windows computers since Mozilla is too stupid to figure out how to roll an msi). They're getting rid of all but the major version number, but the reasoning behind it ("versions are meaningless") allows for a slippery slope condition where they start using no mechanism to track what code compiled into the executables, or maybe they track that, but add a project subtitle "Firefox:Gandalf was released just before Firefox:Pym", which would allow for tracking if someone maintained a list of subtitles. The major.minor.patch numbering system actually works and is useful to users (albeit perhaps not to the developers).
I'm not even going to ask why you would do that nor how exactly is that a problem.
Read up on X11 daemons and "ssh -X" and I'm sure you'll think of a few use cases. Regarding the problem: should you really have to kill a running FF process (or use a new command line switch) just to start up a new one for remote?
It would be cool if they had a clique of deletionist coders like at Wikipedia. Then the original purpose of firefox (a lean, mean browser w/o bloat) could be reached.
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ugh. Can we please stop with the one button mouse thing?
No.
That wasn't a mistake. It was a conscious design decision that you disagreed with. Macintosh users were perfectly happy with it.
That's a silly premise. I don't know or care about conscious design decisions of the latest fighter jets because I don't use them. I used Apple computers alongside others (three button SGIs and two button beige boxes), and the one button mouse was a terrible abortion that required two hands (open-apple-click) to use to marginal effectiveness.
You might as well say that the 2 button mouse was a mistake because it didn't have a scroll wheel.
Only a fool would say that considering that 2 and 3 button mice came before scroll wheel mice. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that newer scroll wheels could act as 3 button mice, and that the newest Apple mice have a scroll ball and two buttons (despite appearing to be one).
Programmers (and any professionals) should learn humanities so that they can easier communicate with others. "Darmok" is a good example: artsy folk love allusion, and it would be good to stretch your mind beyond loops and branches.
a massive fuckton of light, right?
Is that the technical term?
No. The technical term is an Imperial Fuckton.
If NASA would have just been using Metric Fucktons, we'd have some Astronauts still with us today.
I say, I say: It's a joke son, you're supposed to laugh!
It's the usual line I (and other sysadmins) like to trot out against Mozilla, despite our personal love for Firefox, just altered to fit the story title.
The ESO instrument is the Very Large Telescope (VLT). The VLA (Very Large Array) is a radio telescope in New Mexico.
The entire second page is Score 0 comments, and this was the only one that wasn't spam. Replying just so that it's not lost amid the noise.
I don't get what the hell is wrong with EOL'ing version 4... just f'in install version 5!
it sets a bad precedent. Sure, 5 seems like 4.0.2, but maybe 6 or 7 will have a large change in functionality, and your choices will be lose old functionality, lose security patches, or fork the code. They should be EOLing current version -2 or -3.
How that's different from an update from the last version of FF 3.6 to FF 4.0?
Mozilla _just_ EOLed 3.5.x. 3.6.x isn't EOL yet. People expected that the release of 5 would be concurrent with a security patch for 4, because that makes sense. Mozilla showed they lacked sense with the awesomebar debacle.
Until there's an MSI installer.
28 spam ACs posted in succession... distributed AC posting? That could make it painful to read at less than 1 (I usually read at -1).
"Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse!"
So no true liberal is a corporate fascist, but every true conservative is? Which is Biden?
Cool - so we're going to throw ourselves out of the country? After all, we did steal the land and kill the people who were here first, aside from the descendents of those here before us, we're all descendants of 100% illegal immigrants.
I didn't steal anything or kill anyone. I might be descended from an anchor baby, but I'm here legally.
Back in the early days of America, there were laws prohibiting slaves from running away, because slaves were running away. These new slaves run _to_ the slaveowners, and the owners are ignoring the current laws about "hiring" them, just like the slaves are ignoring the laws about being in this country without going through the immigration process.
I was listening to NPR today, and Terri Gross was interviewing some mayor in Georgia where they recently passed a no-illegal-worker law, and he was whining about crops rotting in the fields because no migrant workers showed up to pick. So they tried to send in parolees and people serving community service sentences to do the work (instead of paying a decent wage; they were probably cheaper than the migrants [the comserve people were slaves]), and the workers complained that it was too hard, so the mayor concluded that no americans would do the work (for less than minimum wage). If the oil industry were found to employ illegals, they'd be slapped down pretty quickly.
Of course anti-social suburban white teenagers have an interest in fighting anti-immigration laws. Who do you think they get their pot from? It's obvious. Spicks that jump the border with 10 pounds of hooch shoved up their ass.
Maybe the broke ass ones. I prefer to hit up the white kid down the street who has the home-grown killer.
FYI: he shoves it up there too to match the foreign flavor.
2) Every human has unalienable rights and the richest nation on earth has a Constitutional duty to provide them.
Assuming that that's true, why aren't they crossing into China?
Why would anybody not on a Mac use Safari?
Probably because Apple was sneaky enough to get it auto-installed on a lot of iphone/ipod users' windows machines: http://www.postal-code.com/binarycode/2008/03/22/on-the-windows-safari-auto-install-issue/
Pay the copyright holder with bitcoins.
Video conferencing is useful for meetings or joint calls because it allows you to know who's talking without them having to announce themselves over the phone every time. Otherwise, like you said, there's no point.
She touched the isolation knob, so that no one else could speak to her. Then she touched the lighting apparatus, and the little room was plunged into darkness.
"Be quick!" She called, her irritation returning. "Be quick, Kuno; here I am in the dark wasting my time."
But it was fully fifteen seconds before the round plate that she held in her hands began to glow. A faint blue light shot across it, darkening to purple, and presently she could see the image of her son, who lived on the other side of the earth, and he could see her.
"Kuno, how slow you are."
He smiled gravely.
"I really believe you enjoy dawdling."
"I have called you before, mother, but you were always busy or isolated. I have something particular to say."
Primitive, but a video-phone. Envisioned in or prior too 1907
As a code monkey in training I don't get you, people. From what I can gather if Mozilla had released the same code in the same timeframe but versioned as 4.1 you would apparently not hate it but if they version it as 5.0 then "hurr durr, they suck" - apart from showing just how bloody stupid and retarded plugin compatibility check is, what does this change for you?
Train a lot more please. This breaks the plugins, as mentioned, but it also plays havoc with software audits and patch management programs (you almost have to use a third party patch manager for firefox if you have hundreds of windows computers since Mozilla is too stupid to figure out how to roll an msi). They're getting rid of all but the major version number, but the reasoning behind it ("versions are meaningless") allows for a slippery slope condition where they start using no mechanism to track what code compiled into the executables, or maybe they track that, but add a project subtitle "Firefox:Gandalf was released just before Firefox:Pym", which would allow for tracking if someone maintained a list of subtitles. The major.minor.patch numbering system actually works and is useful to users (albeit perhaps not to the developers).
Running it over ssh needs an extra parameter.
I'm not even going to ask why you would do that nor how exactly is that a problem.
Read up on X11 daemons and "ssh -X" and I'm sure you'll think of a few use cases. Regarding the problem: should you really have to kill a running FF process (or use a new command line switch) just to start up a new one for remote?
It would be cool if they had a clique of deletionist coders like at Wikipedia. Then the original purpose of firefox (a lean, mean browser w/o bloat) could be reached.
On the iPhone, Opera "contains material inappropriate for children 17 years of age or under". Or such is the warning Apple's app store likes to give.
you never actually explain what, specifically, is wrong with Pacman
No network multiplayer?