Actually the original CS is still more popular than CS:S. 6.5 billion player minutes per month vs. 1.7.
Any discussion of what makes a good FPS game is pointless unless you at least touch on the topic of multi-player.
Why pointless? If you're talking about singleplayer, multiplayer is totally irrelevant. They have nothing to do with each other. CS:S is completely separate from HL2 singleplayer.
I don't think this is about formulas, this is about simple game design principles. I'm sure architects have all sorts of rules, principles and whatnot, but that doesn't mean that everyone's making the same buildings. Some things just don't work, and they should be avoided in game design, like instantly fatal traps that can't be avoided without prior knowledge of their existence.
An FPS without guns... well, it wouldn't really be an FPS. I could see myself playing an FPS with a limited amount of guns where you have to be stealthy and clever, and utilize the environment and so forth.
The only exception was Metropolis [The city level] wherein you could get on top of buildings with clever jumping. But once you get up there, it was easy to see that the developers hadn't really fleshed it out: Bad textures, invisible walls, an incomplete skymap, no weapons to use, and being able to just run past every enemy encounter without having to fight. [None of them could get on the roofs.]
It's not that they didn't flesh it out, it's that you're not supposed to get there at all. Obviously there's no point in constructing areas that the player will normally never visit or even see (but curiously enough, World of Warcraft is full of such areas, many of which aren't simply leftovers that didn't end up used for the final game).
It's really sad that comments like this get modded flamebait, but it's of course perfectly consistent with the leftist dogma of burying and silencing dissenting opinions that go againts the accepted groupthink.
No, I don't agree with the parent post either, but I also have no reason to think that it's a flamebait. I don't know what kind of totalitarian delusions leftists harbor, but progress does not happen because everyone is blindly following the accepted groupthink and silencing, imprisoning or murdering anyone who disagrees.
There are wacky bible-bashing Christians out there just like there are crazy cut-your-head-off Muslims.
This comparison assumes that Christianity and Islam are equal and identical, which is incorrect. What passes off as extremism in one religion or moral system is not necessarily extremism in another.
Unfortunately this is not true, as people who belong to certain cultural, religious or ideological groups are far more likely to be bad (or good) than people belonging to other groups. Whether a person is good or bad is not random.
Maybe so, but I don't see how that's really related to capitalism. Sounds more like self-destructive foreign policy, though at this point I see no reason to believe that the US would destroy itself with it.
Even by Slashdot's standards, this is ridiculous. I'm now flamebaiting? Are you really suggesting that communism has not failed?
Well, I guess I'm really just talking to a brick wall, here. Leftists like to avoid arguments, and if they have a tool like Slashdot's moderating system at their disposal, they'll use it without question (this does not stop them from feeling intelligent and reasonable, however). Sort of like what's happening to Little Green Footballs: leftists aggressively "bury" any LGF posts that get Digged. It's so fucking pathetic.
Cowboy up, pansies, and try to debate people every once in a while.
So you concede that there could be an omnipotent creature controlling the universe, but you're still certain that there can be no life after death? Seems like a contradiction to me.
I never said that's irrational, but the type of people I'm referring to hold any number of ideas that are based on dogmas, irrational beliefs and fanaticism.
Is there reason? Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Israel, and their well-documented history of killing Palestianian, Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi, and Lebanese civilians unprovoked. And using torture. And using terrorism. And using assassination. Yeah, _that_ Israel!
Yes, I'm sure Israel just goes around killing civilians without any reason whatsoever, whereas Hamas or Hezbollah would never do such a thing.
They have an illegal WMD stockpile
I'd have a stockpile too if I was surrounded by enemies.
is it so implausible that they will strike first to prevent nuclear parity, and a policy of MAD and deterrence?
Striking to prevent a nuclear attack does not fall under the definition of "no reason."
I assume you were trolling
Yes, of course anyone who's favoring Israel is a troll, as specified by Slashdot's unwritten laws.
and great work with the 'how fucking predicable', clearly we are all anti-semites for daring to discuss such an issue!!
As a rule of thumb any post critical of Israel gets modded up, and any post in favor of Israel gets modded down. I attribute it to anti-semitism because Israel is constantly singled out for no apparent reason, and criticized for things that others can do with impunity.
Two facts invalidate your (weak) points: Israel has no legitimacy, and it has no right to exist.
Even if that's true, I don't care.
Palistinians do not want to see the death of all jews, they want their land back - an entirely reasonable desire.
Like I said, it's more about Jihad and less about borders.
Israelies are living on stolen land. Until they make serious concessions, like returning to 1967 borders, giving Palistinians real water rights, and granting the Right of Return, they will not have security, nor will they deserve it.
Israel has no incentive to give them anything. They gave them Gaza, and it didn't improve relations one bit. They left behind greenhouses for the Palestinians, and they were promptly destroyed. That's all Palestinians can do: destroy, destroy and destroy. They can't even get along with each other, let alone Israel.
Yeah, that explains why Europe stagnated after the rise of Christianity and became a poor, third world area that hasn't produced anything of value in centuries. Same thing happened to the US.
Oh, wait.
Seriously though, you should take a look at reality before making such idiotic comments. If people stopped caring about their mortal lives then obviously the world would be a very different place now. The truth is that people still care for their lives with or without Christianity. I don't know where you got the idea that Christians just sit around waiting to die, but I guess it's just part of the anti-Christian fad that all the cool kids are part of today.
A funny thing about the atheist liberal leftist types is that their thoughts are completely and utterly polluted by dogmatic thinkingm the very thing they claim to oppose. They're considerably more fanatical, intolerant and irrational than your average Christian (in the US).
All the major organised religions seem to want is lots of uneducated children who think they are going to go to 'heaven' when they die.
Really? I haven't seen Buddhists or Hindus demand an end to the evolutionary theory. I haven't seen Christians in Europe do that, either.
On a related note, I've noticed that people never have anything againts generalization when it's something like "all major religions blah blah," but if you make broad statements about a specific religion or the followers of that religion, you are guilty of the sin of generalization.
You're changing the subject, presumably because you can't explain the contradiction that Israelies are bloodthirsty, genocidal lunatics while at the same they allow minarets in the Temple Mount and prayer rooms in airports.
The point I was trying to make is that so called Israeli civilian casualties are not all they are made out to be. If a group of Israeli soldiers are on a bus going to their reserve duty post and the bus gets blown up I would consider it a valid strike against military assets but international media reports it as civilian casualties as the soldiers were not carrying their weapons (which they would receive once they arrived at their duty post).
Well, I think it's ultimately a pointless distinction since the Palestinian resistance is more about Jihad and less about nationalism or borders.
No sane person tries to even pretend that Israel is not a Zionist country with a state religion.
There's nothing unusual about having a state religion, and I think Israel is apprehensive towards Muslims because of the way they behave and because they want to kill or subjugate Jews, not because Judaism commands them to wage war againts infidels.
The sad fact of the existence of Israel is that it has taken a peacefull religion (Jews were never a race. The only person who believed Jews are a race and not a religion was Hitler) and turned it into one reviled in most of the world.
You must be confusing Judaism with Islam. I'm no expert but I think you're blowing the influence of religion in Israel way out of proportion. I can't recall a single instance where Israel has done something in the name of Judaism, or even mentioned it. Do you see Jewish citizens and immigrants conduct terrorism, rape, murder, assassinations and death threats in Western nations? Muslims do all that and more, yet for some reason you feel that Judaism is far worse, which is odd to say the least.
If you try to point to Muslim atrocities to justify Israeli atrocities it would be like Hitler pointing at the American wiping out of the American Indians to justify the final solution. Just because there are crazies in other countries doesnt justify craziness.
Bad comparison, because Americans wiping out Indians had nothing whatsoever to do with Hitler. Muslim behavior towards Israel obviously affects how Israel treats them.
Maybe we should realize its time countries were based on secularism and equal rights for all residents irrespective of religion.
Maybe you don't fully appreciate the reality of the Middle-East, and how Islam makes it impossible for other religions to peacefully co-exist with it (everywhere in the world). It's completely irrational nonsense to suggest that all religions should be afforded equal rights, since religions are not inherently equal. What if Nazism had been a religion? Should it have received equal rights too?
Once Israel absorbs the Palestinian territories legally, gives the Palestinians right to vote in Israeli elections and becomes a true democracy and then it still faces terrorism from its neighbours thats when we should help them not while they are a apartheid regime.
Why would Israel do that? The Palestinians have no wish to vote in Israeli elections, or live peacefully with Jews. They only care about driving the Israelis to the sea. They'll do that or die trying, and that pretty much sums up their entire pitiful, pointless existence. And what's with the constant references to apartheid? I imagine that you only use the word to make people think of South Africa (where, incidentally, the country started crumbling apart after they abolished apartheid). I think Israel has every right to treat Muslims with great suspicion.
I think it's rather strange that Israel is the only truly free and modern nation in the Middle-East, yet it receives more criticism than any other country in the region. I'm inclined to think that it's simply anti-semitism and the glorification of Islam, because nothing else explains it. If people were simply concerned about human rights and so forth, they'd be directing th
Well if we go by that definition then I guess there are no civilians in Palestine either. Everyone's fair game, discussion over.
The Arabs are second class citizens who have very little control over their lives and the religious nuts deserve everything they get (especially for wearing those black dresses and beards which stink like crazy)
Fortunately religious minorities are not treated like second class citizens by Muslims, subject to violence and intimidation because they are infidels. Oh, wait. As for Arabs being treated that way in Israel, I find it a little puzzling that Israel allowed for a minaret to be built on the Temple Mount, instead of building a synagogue as one Jewish group had hoped. It's also peculiar that a prayer room for Muslims will be built in the Ben Gurion airport to strengthen ties with Arabs. Even more odd is that ethnic minorities in Israel have full voting rights. I think there are Arabs serving in the parliament as well.
Yes, there's some discrimination againts Arabs, but so fucking what? It's a miracle that Israel even allows them to live there, let alone vote or hold government jobs. Israelis are incredibly tolerant given that Arab and Muslim countries largely want to annihilate them and have actually attempted to do so on several occasions. Tolerance is so overrated by liberals and leftists that it isn't even funny. Tolerance is simply wasted if it's only a (permanent) one way street. It needs to work both ways.
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Why pointless? If you're talking about singleplayer, multiplayer is totally irrelevant. They have nothing to do with each other. CS:S is completely separate from HL2 singleplayer.
I don't think this is about formulas, this is about simple game design principles. I'm sure architects have all sorts of rules, principles and whatnot, but that doesn't mean that everyone's making the same buildings. Some things just don't work, and they should be avoided in game design, like instantly fatal traps that can't be avoided without prior knowledge of their existence.
An FPS without guns... well, it wouldn't really be an FPS. I could see myself playing an FPS with a limited amount of guns where you have to be stealthy and clever, and utilize the environment and so forth.
It's not that they didn't flesh it out, it's that you're not supposed to get there at all. Obviously there's no point in constructing areas that the player will normally never visit or even see (but curiously enough, World of Warcraft is full of such areas, many of which aren't simply leftovers that didn't end up used for the final game).
It's really sad that comments like this get modded flamebait, but it's of course perfectly consistent with the leftist dogma of burying and silencing dissenting opinions that go againts the accepted groupthink.
No, I don't agree with the parent post either, but I also have no reason to think that it's a flamebait. I don't know what kind of totalitarian delusions leftists harbor, but progress does not happen because everyone is blindly following the accepted groupthink and silencing, imprisoning or murdering anyone who disagrees.
A phobia is an irrational fear. Believing that homosexuality is a choice is not an irrational fear. At worst it's just mere ignorance.
This comparison assumes that Christianity and Islam are equal and identical, which is incorrect. What passes off as extremism in one religion or moral system is not necessarily extremism in another.
Unfortunately this is not true, as people who belong to certain cultural, religious or ideological groups are far more likely to be bad (or good) than people belonging to other groups. Whether a person is good or bad is not random.
Maybe so, but I don't see how that's really related to capitalism. Sounds more like self-destructive foreign policy, though at this point I see no reason to believe that the US would destroy itself with it.
AFAIK China is more of a hybrid between communism and capitalism, but I don't quite understand what you're getting at.
Even by Slashdot's standards, this is ridiculous. I'm now flamebaiting? Are you really suggesting that communism has not failed?
Well, I guess I'm really just talking to a brick wall, here. Leftists like to avoid arguments, and if they have a tool like Slashdot's moderating system at their disposal, they'll use it without question (this does not stop them from feeling intelligent and reasonable, however). Sort of like what's happening to Little Green Footballs: leftists aggressively "bury" any LGF posts that get Digged. It's so fucking pathetic.
Cowboy up, pansies, and try to debate people every once in a while.
So you concede that there could be an omnipotent creature controlling the universe, but you're still certain that there can be no life after death? Seems like a contradiction to me.
I never claimed they were. I was referring to a type of person.
I never said that's irrational, but the type of people I'm referring to hold any number of ideas that are based on dogmas, irrational beliefs and fanaticism.
Yes, I'm sure Israel just goes around killing civilians without any reason whatsoever, whereas Hamas or Hezbollah would never do such a thing.
I'd have a stockpile too if I was surrounded by enemies.
Striking to prevent a nuclear attack does not fall under the definition of "no reason."
Yes, of course anyone who's favoring Israel is a troll, as specified by Slashdot's unwritten laws.
As a rule of thumb any post critical of Israel gets modded up, and any post in favor of Israel gets modded down. I attribute it to anti-semitism because Israel is constantly singled out for no apparent reason, and criticized for things that others can do with impunity.
Even if that's true, I don't care.
Like I said, it's more about Jihad and less about borders.
Israel has no incentive to give them anything. They gave them Gaza, and it didn't improve relations one bit. They left behind greenhouses for the Palestinians, and they were promptly destroyed. That's all Palestinians can do: destroy, destroy and destroy. They can't even get along with each other, let alone Israel.
Yeah, that explains why Europe stagnated after the rise of Christianity and became a poor, third world area that hasn't produced anything of value in centuries. Same thing happened to the US.
Oh, wait.
Seriously though, you should take a look at reality before making such idiotic comments. If people stopped caring about their mortal lives then obviously the world would be a very different place now. The truth is that people still care for their lives with or without Christianity. I don't know where you got the idea that Christians just sit around waiting to die, but I guess it's just part of the anti-Christian fad that all the cool kids are part of today.
A funny thing about the atheist liberal leftist types is that their thoughts are completely and utterly polluted by dogmatic thinkingm the very thing they claim to oppose. They're considerably more fanatical, intolerant and irrational than your average Christian (in the US).
Yes, communism works really well, as we have repeatedly witnessed.
Really? I haven't seen Buddhists or Hindus demand an end to the evolutionary theory. I haven't seen Christians in Europe do that, either.
On a related note, I've noticed that people never have anything againts generalization when it's something like "all major religions blah blah," but if you make broad statements about a specific religion or the followers of that religion, you are guilty of the sin of generalization.
What is it that I don't understand? You're saying that the victim is responsible, not the offender. What more is there to understand?
No, I'm afraid us mere mortals still have a right to hold opinions.
Assuming they stole it, and assuming that Palestinians even really care about the land.
You're changing the subject, presumably because you can't explain the contradiction that Israelies are bloodthirsty, genocidal lunatics while at the same they allow minarets in the Temple Mount and prayer rooms in airports.
Well, I think it's ultimately a pointless distinction since the Palestinian resistance is more about Jihad and less about nationalism or borders.
There's nothing unusual about having a state religion, and I think Israel is apprehensive towards Muslims because of the way they behave and because they want to kill or subjugate Jews, not because Judaism commands them to wage war againts infidels.
You must be confusing Judaism with Islam. I'm no expert but I think you're blowing the influence of religion in Israel way out of proportion. I can't recall a single instance where Israel has done something in the name of Judaism, or even mentioned it. Do you see Jewish citizens and immigrants conduct terrorism, rape, murder, assassinations and death threats in Western nations? Muslims do all that and more, yet for some reason you feel that Judaism is far worse, which is odd to say the least.
Bad comparison, because Americans wiping out Indians had nothing whatsoever to do with Hitler. Muslim behavior towards Israel obviously affects how Israel treats them.
Maybe you don't fully appreciate the reality of the Middle-East, and how Islam makes it impossible for other religions to peacefully co-exist with it (everywhere in the world). It's completely irrational nonsense to suggest that all religions should be afforded equal rights, since religions are not inherently equal. What if Nazism had been a religion? Should it have received equal rights too?
Why would Israel do that? The Palestinians have no wish to vote in Israeli elections, or live peacefully with Jews. They only care about driving the Israelis to the sea. They'll do that or die trying, and that pretty much sums up their entire pitiful, pointless existence. And what's with the constant references to apartheid? I imagine that you only use the word to make people think of South Africa (where, incidentally, the country started crumbling apart after they abolished apartheid). I think Israel has every right to treat Muslims with great suspicion.
I think it's rather strange that Israel is the only truly free and modern nation in the Middle-East, yet it receives more criticism than any other country in the region. I'm inclined to think that it's simply anti-semitism and the glorification of Islam, because nothing else explains it. If people were simply concerned about human rights and so forth, they'd be directing th
I said I don't care about the historical details of who really owns the area.
Fortunately religious minorities are not treated like second class citizens by Muslims, subject to violence and intimidation because they are infidels. Oh, wait. As for Arabs being treated that way in Israel, I find it a little puzzling that Israel allowed for a minaret to be built on the Temple Mount, instead of building a synagogue as one Jewish group had hoped. It's also peculiar that a prayer room for Muslims will be built in the Ben Gurion airport to strengthen ties with Arabs. Even more odd is that ethnic minorities in Israel have full voting rights. I think there are Arabs serving in the parliament as well.
Yes, there's some discrimination againts Arabs, but so fucking what? It's a miracle that Israel even allows them to live there, let alone vote or hold government jobs. Israelis are incredibly tolerant given that Arab and Muslim countries largely want to annihilate them and have actually attempted to do so on several occasions. Tolerance is so overrated by liberals and leftists that it isn't even funny. Tolerance is simply wasted if it's only a (permanent) one way street. It needs to work both ways.