whats your definition of poor? if you think everyone in the first world can afford to run a car then you must be living in a different world to most of us
you are bullshitting yourself, it would help if you did some research on EV buses etc before commenting. here's one solution for you. https://cleantechnica.com/2017...
is that the same problem for walking out in front of an ultra quiet Rolls Royce or Mercedes ? If you are waling into a road looking at your phone or talking to someone without looking where yo are going, you don't get any sympathy if you get knocked down.br.
unfortunately there is tyre noise, that can;t be removed.
it is well known, if you've read other articles about EV buses, that the upfront cost of an EV bus is higher but lifetime costs of electric is a less than diesel with the benefit of a better smelling city. http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2...
Somethings that are not considered in these comparisons is all the pollution put out on the journey from initial searching for oil, drilling test wells, drilling the well, extracting the oil, transporting it to refineries, coal fired power used to generate electricity to refine, transporting from refineries to gas stations and subsequent burning in the vehicle? I'm sure there are probably more steps of pollution emissions on the oil's journey from underground to the exhaust pipe of your vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
gawd, is that old chestnut the best you can do to disparage the advance to a more sustainable system? infrastructure takes a while to get into place, lots of people with electrical vehicles are likely to have solar on their houses with which they will charge their cars.
You're staying stuck in last century thinking, this is a new way of generating and storing power. Power stations in the UK are currently buying in battery storage to use when demand spikes as its quicker than firing up a gas/coal station. Wind and solar are currently supplementary but will become more and more dominant in the future as the infrastructure increases. Go back to when the first coal and hydro power stations etc where created and see how they did for the first 10-20 years.
This is not going to be an overnight change, so stop expecting it to be. Most naysayers seems to expect the system to faultless and at full capacity overnight. The change could be a whole lot quicker if all houses and businesses installed panels and storage then only used the grid as a backup system
solar does work when its cloudy albeit at a reduced rate, it also responds minutely to moonlight - give it time for the tech to advance.
its also subsidised so the consumer does not pay the real cost. Its also an expensive pain to commission and decommission and also a prime target within a war scenario.
that lets companies from around the world to get up to speed with development, production and installation and when you do decide to join the party, they'll be the first into the US to exploit the market with their expertise
nope but if the panels double their efficiency, people will replace especially once the warranty runs out and they should be a lot cheaper. in todays society people replace their phones etc even when they don't need to, they just want bragging rights and imagine how bad thats going to be with todays millennials
its early days but solar panels aren't quite dead on a moonlit night, I found this regarding solar and moonlight.
http://weswen.com/news/a-new-t...
from another site
"Moonlight can be used to power PV cells at cost of 345:1. That is, a panel that would normally produce 3450 W at high noon would produce only 10 W of power during the full moon. The quarter moon (50% illumination) would likewise produce only 5 W, and so forth.
Concentrating moonlight using reflective or refractive techniques would enhance the wattage.
As long as the light has a wavelength within 400-1127 nm (violet to near-infrared), the PV cell will convert it to electricity. It doesn't matter if it is sunlight, moonlight or flashlight."
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/gi... "The Gigafactory will also be powered by renewable energy sources, with the goal of achieving net zero energy." its happening
yes, the earth has got about a billion years left before it burns us up. I think degradation of solar cells is known about as there is a warranty period on them so, in a sense its good new as there are still jobs to be had once that happens
doesn't matter if its 50 years, stuff will need to be replaced. i expect panels/batteries would be replaced as more efficient panels are developed even before the current ones expire.
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you can't accuse someone of being shortsighted then keep banging on about needing an old tech.
whats your definition of poor? if you think everyone in the first world can afford to run a car then you must be living in a different world to most of us
and this one also helps. https://cleantechnica.com/2017...
yes, we must take a comic strip seriously(?). Cities are looking into electrifying bus routes, thats what the article is basically about.
this is what you are talking about. https://cleantechnica.com/2017...
you are bullshitting yourself, it would help if you did some research on EV buses etc before commenting. here's one solution for you. https://cleantechnica.com/2017...
go back to sleep, you've been dreaming nonsense.
"I read the internet for the articles." - no you don't as proved by your comment
well, look for the numbers, the data all out there. let me help you until you find out how to use google http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2...
Most buses do not do enough miles in a day to totally exhaust its battery. If they do, they do back to the depot or a charging station to recharge.
is that the same problem for walking out in front of an ultra quiet Rolls Royce or Mercedes ? If you are waling into a road looking at your phone or talking to someone without looking where yo are going, you don't get any sympathy if you get knocked down.br. unfortunately there is tyre noise, that can;t be removed.
it is well known, if you've read other articles about EV buses, that the upfront cost of an EV bus is higher but lifetime costs of electric is a less than diesel with the benefit of a better smelling city. http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2...
Somethings that are not considered in these comparisons is all the pollution put out on the journey from initial searching for oil, drilling test wells, drilling the well, extracting the oil, transporting it to refineries, coal fired power used to generate electricity to refine, transporting from refineries to gas stations and subsequent burning in the vehicle? I'm sure there are probably more steps of pollution emissions on the oil's journey from underground to the exhaust pipe of your vehicle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
gawd, is that old chestnut the best you can do to disparage the advance to a more sustainable system? infrastructure takes a while to get into place, lots of people with electrical vehicles are likely to have solar on their houses with which they will charge their cars.
You're staying stuck in last century thinking, this is a new way of generating and storing power. Power stations in the UK are currently buying in battery storage to use when demand spikes as its quicker than firing up a gas/coal station. Wind and solar are currently supplementary but will become more and more dominant in the future as the infrastructure increases. Go back to when the first coal and hydro power stations etc where created and see how they did for the first 10-20 years.
This is not going to be an overnight change, so stop expecting it to be. Most naysayers seems to expect the system to faultless and at full capacity overnight. The change could be a whole lot quicker if all houses and businesses installed panels and storage then only used the grid as a backup system
solar does work when its cloudy albeit at a reduced rate, it also responds minutely to moonlight - give it time for the tech to advance.
its also subsidised so the consumer does not pay the real cost. Its also an expensive pain to commission and decommission and also a prime target within a war scenario.
that lets companies from around the world to get up to speed with development, production and installation and when you do decide to join the party, they'll be the first into the US to exploit the market with their expertise
they should add the Daily Express to the list as well, its just as bad
more fool you if you do not have a back up plan.
nope but if the panels double their efficiency, people will replace especially once the warranty runs out and they should be a lot cheaper. in todays society people replace their phones etc even when they don't need to, they just want bragging rights and imagine how bad thats going to be with todays millennials
i'm not arguing against anything apart from negativity about solar and hopefully solar on homes and business becomes the norm as soon as possible.
its early days but solar panels aren't quite dead on a moonlit night, I found this regarding solar and moonlight. http://weswen.com/news/a-new-t...
from another site
"Moonlight can be used to power PV cells at cost of 345:1. That is, a panel that would normally produce 3450 W at high noon would produce only 10 W of power during the full moon. The quarter moon (50% illumination) would likewise produce only 5 W, and so forth. Concentrating moonlight using reflective or refractive techniques would enhance the wattage. As long as the light has a wavelength within 400-1127 nm (violet to near-infrared), the PV cell will convert it to electricity. It doesn't matter if it is sunlight, moonlight or flashlight."
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/gi... "The Gigafactory will also be powered by renewable energy sources, with the goal of achieving net zero energy." its happening
yes, the earth has got about a billion years left before it burns us up. I think degradation of solar cells is known about as there is a warranty period on them so, in a sense its good new as there are still jobs to be had once that happens
doesn't matter if its 50 years, stuff will need to be replaced. i expect panels/batteries would be replaced as more efficient panels are developed even before the current ones expire.