the UK electorate have very short memories and don't think. a lot of them repeatedly vote a particular party because their parents, grandparents voted for that party.
you sound like an ignorant racist - are you are member of EDL?
we have a large british born black population, not all black people are immigrants. anyway most north africans go to france/belgium because most of north africa's second language is french
to a degree its blaming the now for the past but we do have a responsibility for the crap we did in Iraq etc because it reverberates around the whole region. The only justifiable thing we did in the middle east was get Saddam out of Kuiwait.
All the Brexit'ers are either still living the colonial past, living in 1930's nationalist europe and have Arian race ideals (no-one is as good as us english) or are xenophobes and/or racists.
it'll be up to the Brits, especially the ones that want out, to stop their hypocrisy of buying foreign built goods then claiming they are patriotic and getting out of EU is better for UK. Farage is one of the biggest example of a hypocrite, he claims to support british workers then buys a swedish car.
what is meant by rules, if you want to sell products into the EU, you need to apply the minimum quality and safety standards that the EU sets. They sensibly don't want you to sell dangerous products in the EU.
its the usual where the local ignorant population think they are better than foreigners, its the pricks that go on holiday to places like Spain and insist only eating english breakfasts and roasts because they won't eat that "foreign muck".
Farage is that you? Ignorance is bliss for you. if we didn't have those immigrant workers, you wouldn't have any fruit or vegetables from the UK as the Brits who used to do it are too lazy to get up to start work at 5:00am. if the Brits did the hard graft jobs then the immigrant workers would not be needed. you wouldn't have enough nurses or doctors either.
just buy LED bulbs as they are better longer lasting and more economical in the long run. its a pity you can't see the sense in banning old tech like incandescent bulbs. Manufacturing moves east because the west won't pay the proper price for stuff built in the west.
"Since when did a country protecting its borders and putting the interests of its own citizens ahead of the interests of foreigners become some buzzword for "evil racism" that every self-righteous liberal now feels the need to decry?" - since Globalism and being selfish became the thing, e.g. everyone was quite happy for all the IT hardware to be built with cheap labour in china thereby doing US citizens out of an industry and a job because they could buy computers cheaper. How would you feel about country borders on the internet?
"And yes, when the U.S. was being settled, we were much more open to immigrants coming in. But that was back when we had tons of unsettled land available " - err... when did the US run out of land?
you obviously didn't understand the boundaries yet, objection to homosexuality is nothing to do with morals because its not immoral to be homosexual, its is bigotry hiding behind ideology from crap religions.
No-one will have objections to illegal immigrants being deported in a humane way. If i recall correctly, Trump has called all mexicans rapists which is blatantly not true and its also true that not all mexicans in the USA are illegal. Trump didn't even want muslims coming there on holiday so dont; mix up immigration with that. I expect the native american indians didn;t want unfettered immigration either. No-one is expecting USA to operate by different rules, no-one expects to the USA or any country in the world to demonise a whole race of people because of their religion, I thought we'd left the racist ideologies of the 1930's back in the 1930s.
no, its correct which ever way you look at it. when you own society is whiter than white (in the law abiding sense) then you can throw stones. the Solution provided that i responded to basically said that all immigrants from a particular culture(s) were all rapists.
"These days the word 'hate' is being used in a massively exaggerated way, as is 'phobia'.
'hate' and 'phobia' are used to describe everything from disapproval through dislike and actual hate." true to a degree but people hide their bigotry behind disapproval etc.
"Eg 'homophobe' is used to describe people who, rather than fearing homosexuals, disapprove of it on moral grounds. These people do not fear homosexuals." - no, that "moral" is judgemental abrahamic religious view point, why is it immoral to be homosexual? again, hiding hatred behind a false premise
"People who disapprove of mass immigration are described as 'race-haters'. These people do not hate people of other races." have you heard Donald Trumps speeches where he wants to build a wall between mexico and usa and banning all muslims from entering the usa? what do you call that?
People try to hide their bigotry and hatred behind other reasons all the time to be "politically correct".
"The very term "hate speech" is a JEWISH invention" I wouldn't say invention but as a result of the catholic church's demonisation of jews from the beginning of the catholic church, when you are hated because of being born a jew and no other reason then i think they have justification in calling it hate speech.
its usually the hosts that do not welcome them in very well so they stick together for safety. first generation immigrants may not integrate much because of a language/cultural barrier but the following generations usually integrate because the native language becomes their first language and they make new friends at school/university.
if you are critical of a whole sector of a society because just they are born "jews" or "muslims" or "black" etc then you are not being critical, you are either being xenophobic or racist but definitely a bigot - you cannot tarnish a whole race based on the actions of a few. You can be critical of individuals or a sect like ISIS or groups like the KKK but not all muslims or all white people.
"I think it would be better to use LED lamps, to change architecture of of homes in order to reduce air-conditioned/heated area and increase open space like courtyards, reduce maximum allowed weight of personal cars, etc. "
if all homes were insulated to passiv house standards, there would a huge dip in power requirements for both hot and cold weather environments. Even better would be if every roof, where possible, carried solar and every home had its own power storage and then utilities could become energy storage companies for when there is excess power generated by solar/wind.
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the UK electorate have very short memories and don't think. a lot of them repeatedly vote a particular party because their parents, grandparents voted for that party.
most brexiters are far right tories or ukipper so xenophobes/racists describes them perfectly
you sound like an ignorant racist - are you are member of EDL?
we have a large british born black population, not all black people are immigrants. anyway most north africans go to france/belgium because most of north africa's second language is french
Its sensible to me that if they can't get tariff free access to the rest of europe then they will want to move their companies to mainland europe.
to a degree its blaming the now for the past but we do have a responsibility for the crap we did in Iraq etc because it reverberates around the whole region. The only justifiable thing we did in the middle east was get Saddam out of Kuiwait.
All the Brexit'ers are either still living the colonial past, living in 1930's nationalist europe and have Arian race ideals (no-one is as good as us english) or are xenophobes and/or racists.
it'll be up to the Brits, especially the ones that want out, to stop their hypocrisy of buying foreign built goods then claiming they are patriotic and getting out of EU is better for UK. Farage is one of the biggest example of a hypocrite, he claims to support british workers then buys a swedish car.
what is meant by rules, if you want to sell products into the EU, you need to apply the minimum quality and safety standards that the EU sets. They sensibly don't want you to sell dangerous products in the EU.
its the usual where the local ignorant population think they are better than foreigners, its the pricks that go on holiday to places like Spain and insist only eating english breakfasts and roasts because they won't eat that "foreign muck".
Farage is that you? Ignorance is bliss for you. if we didn't have those immigrant workers, you wouldn't have any fruit or vegetables from the UK as the Brits who used to do it are too lazy to get up to start work at 5:00am. if the Brits did the hard graft jobs then the immigrant workers would not be needed. you wouldn't have enough nurses or doctors either.
unfortunately you won't get the xenophobes or racists to understand those points as it doesn't justify or feed their prejudices
just buy LED bulbs as they are better longer lasting and more economical in the long run. its a pity you can't see the sense in banning old tech like incandescent bulbs. Manufacturing moves east because the west won't pay the proper price for stuff built in the west.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/T... - i think you qualify for one
oh dear, oh dear. someone has a lot to learn about looking beyond the rhetoric.
"Since when did a country protecting its borders and putting the interests of its own citizens ahead of the interests of foreigners become some buzzword for "evil racism" that every self-righteous liberal now feels the need to decry?" - since Globalism and being selfish became the thing, e.g. everyone was quite happy for all the IT hardware to be built with cheap labour in china thereby doing US citizens out of an industry and a job because they could buy computers cheaper. How would you feel about country borders on the internet?
"And yes, when the U.S. was being settled, we were much more open to immigrants coming in. But that was back when we had tons of unsettled land available " - err... when did the US run out of land?
you obviously didn't understand the boundaries yet, objection to homosexuality is nothing to do with morals because its not immoral to be homosexual, its is bigotry hiding behind ideology from crap religions.
No-one will have objections to illegal immigrants being deported in a humane way. If i recall correctly, Trump has called all mexicans rapists which is blatantly not true and its also true that not all mexicans in the USA are illegal. Trump didn't even want muslims coming there on holiday so dont; mix up immigration with that. I expect the native american indians didn;t want unfettered immigration either. No-one is expecting USA to operate by different rules, no-one expects to the USA or any country in the world to demonise a whole race of people because of their religion, I thought we'd left the racist ideologies of the 1930's back in the 1930s.
no, its correct which ever way you look at it. when you own society is whiter than white (in the law abiding sense) then you can throw stones. the Solution provided that i responded to basically said that all immigrants from a particular culture(s) were all rapists.
yes, their personal issue is homophobia. they should learn to live and let live and not judge other people
"These days the word 'hate' is being used in a massively exaggerated way, as is 'phobia'.
'hate' and 'phobia' are used to describe everything from disapproval through dislike and actual hate."
true to a degree but people hide their bigotry behind disapproval etc.
"Eg 'homophobe' is used to describe people who, rather than fearing homosexuals, disapprove of it on moral grounds. These people do not fear homosexuals." - no, that "moral" is judgemental abrahamic religious view point, why is it immoral to be homosexual? again, hiding hatred behind a false premise
"People who disapprove of mass immigration are described as 'race-haters'. These people do not hate people of other races." have you heard Donald Trumps speeches where he wants to build a wall between mexico and usa and banning all muslims from entering the usa? what do you call that?
People try to hide their bigotry and hatred behind other reasons all the time to be "politically correct".
"The very term "hate speech" is a JEWISH invention" I wouldn't say invention but as a result of the catholic church's demonisation of jews from the beginning of the catholic church, when you are hated because of being born a jew and no other reason then i think they have justification in calling it hate speech.
when your country does not produce its own rapists/murderers etc then you can throw stones.
its usually the hosts that do not welcome them in very well so they stick together for safety. first generation immigrants may not integrate much because of a language/cultural barrier but the following generations usually integrate because the native language becomes their first language and they make new friends at school/university.
if you are critical of a whole sector of a society because just they are born "jews" or "muslims" or "black" etc then you are not being critical, you are either being xenophobic or racist but definitely a bigot - you cannot tarnish a whole race based on the actions of a few. You can be critical of individuals or a sect like ISIS or groups like the KKK but not all muslims or all white people.
replace Juncker with Nigel Farage or Marie Le Penn then maybe you'll have a point.
this is what happens if you don't get out soon enough http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"I think it would be better to use LED lamps, to change architecture of of homes in order to reduce air-conditioned/heated area and increase open space like courtyards, reduce maximum allowed weight of personal cars, etc. "
if all homes were insulated to passiv house standards, there would a huge dip in power requirements for both hot and cold weather environments. Even better would be if every roof, where possible, carried solar and every home had its own power storage and then utilities could become energy storage companies for when there is excess power generated by solar/wind.