yes, but the car was in front of the idiot who would have been looking directly at the google car brake lights, perhaps he was distracted by a woman in a short skirt walking down the road.
a question.. if its an "amendment" would it have been made when the founding fathers drew up the constitution or after and if after while they were still alive?
the Stones are part of the Celeb culture hence the youth listen, Young just gets on and plays his music. Two different markets. Streaming is the throw away market, a bit like blondes being just for Christmas and brunettes being for life.
of course its not hard. they've worked out the best color lighting for each type of crop to get the best from it so once you know that, you can build to your hearts content.
Yes, it is being promoted by Phillips who make LEDs but they are not the only supplier. Its a pretty good idea to showcase other uses for your products.
"I'm not saying it again... this has grown tedious. I'm not comparing your LED scheme to outdoor growing. I'm comparing it to greenhouse growing." - it beats both if you pick the correct crop to grow.
"Outdoor growing remains the most efficient." - i don't think it does if you pick the correct crop, can you crop 10,000 lettuces a day in 25000 sq ft outside?
i agree with you about home greenhouse scenario but if i had enough space, i'd have both because i'd want 365 day growing capability
You need to read the article - https://www.youtube.com/user/P... is worth checking out and so is this http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-... - produces 10,000 heads of lettuce a day in a 25,000 square foot (roughly half a football field) indoor farm. just in case you don't want to go to this page about the farm, here is a quote from it.
"To that end, the farm uses 17,500 LED lights spread across 18 cultivation racks, each towering 16 levels high. Combined with tightly modulated temperature and humidity levels within the grow room, this system has already shown significant advantages over outdoor farms since coming online earlier this year: Produce waste has been cut from 50 percent of a harvest to just 10, productivity per square foot has increased 100 fold, and water usage has been slashed to just 1 percent of what a conventional farm would consume."
"Part of the issue is that buildings are not built to grow things. And to really do proper urban farming, they have to either be modified or built from the ground up with that in mind." Why? you just need empty spaces for tiers of hydroponic racks, a water feed, electricity for the LEDs and water pumps, they generally all come with a building (depending on the building type) You can only get a fixed amount out of 1m square on a farm but with this system you could have 3 tiers of 1m square. When you are only supplying local, you don't need monster farms that are susceptible to being damaged from freak weather patterns. its never going to replace farms but if you live in an area where you can only grow for part of the year, its going to be very useful.
"This product they're thinking about selling... I can't see anyone outside of some government goofball on expense account buying this thing" there are a few greenhouse farms in the UK testing these systems out and they can now grow tomatoes all year. Visit youtube and check some of the reports on the success of these LED farms
"it's hard to compete with a fertile field in a nice climate" you should watch a few of the youtube videos about these LED hydro places, you might change your mind
It would help if you are using solar to power the LEDs. Water is only cheap in some places, California seems to be having a few issues with not enough water. The farmers are being blamed for taking most of it. If they could use this system in more places then it would save a lot.
The cost of a 5 storey block may be high but if its full of layers and layers of growing food for 24 hours and day, 365 days a year, it will soon work out cost effective. Considering the amount of land you'd need to compare to the 365 day a year output of this hydro-led system, it would be more expensive to buy and prepare ready for crops. No weeding, no spraying etc, the advantages are enormous especially when these places are pretty much computer controlled.
"one, not a fan of binary logging." so he's not a fan of binary logging but he didn't say why, maybe he'll update his thoughts once he uses the related tools like journalctl to see what benefits it brings.
"two some of the personalities involved are problematic." - he's not exactly a charmer at times either depends which side of the fence you are sitting at the time. He has brought many a developer into line when they step over the boundary.
" The bigger issue, though, is systemd's influence over other projects. But that wasn't raised, so why would he comment?" - perhaps there was nothing to say about it as its not as worrying as people like to troll about. If any other projects want to interface with systemd, thats an issue you need to take up with them.
Unfortunately for you, Torvalds understands more about systemd that you do. You need to read and comprehend a little more, stop relying on trolls that also don't know what systemd is or isn't. 90% of those items listed are optional but are part of the "systemd project" and not part of the systemd binary, you can choose to use any of them over the current offerings if you wish, its not compulsory.
"Not exactly a positive endorsement on the quality of the systemd code." - how on earth do you get that understanding from what he said? its called "grasping at straws"
"The people who are most against systemd are the serious, professional, often long-time Linux system administrators who have to provision and maintain production Linux systems." - can you point to the proof of that statement and the others you make?
yep, i glad i've just upgraded to a blackberry passport, i now get upto 4 days before charging. but i'm not an app addict, just use the phone, email, contact, calendar, browser, camera.
Have you ever installed libreoffice on windows with chocolatey? The windows native install is slooooooow but on linux its fast so if it can do it nearly as fast as linux then it wouldn't be a bad proposition.
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yes, but the car was in front of the idiot who would have been looking directly at the google car brake lights, perhaps he was distracted by a woman in a short skirt walking down the road.
a question.. if its an "amendment" would it have been made when the founding fathers drew up the constitution or after and if after while they were still alive?
that might happen if your own drone shoots you....
the Stones are part of the Celeb culture hence the youth listen, Young just gets on and plays his music. Two different markets. Streaming is the throw away market, a bit like blondes being just for Christmas and brunettes being for life.
yep, these LED greenhouses are using hydroponics, its an efficient way to get economies of scale
i think most of the industrial greenhouses already pump a certain amount of CO2 into them.
of course its not hard. they've worked out the best color lighting for each type of crop to get the best from it so once you know that, you can build to your hearts content.
Yes, it is being promoted by Phillips who make LEDs but they are not the only supplier. Its a pretty good idea to showcase other uses for your products.
"I'm not saying it again... this has grown tedious. I'm not comparing your LED scheme to outdoor growing. I'm comparing it to greenhouse growing." - it beats both if you pick the correct crop to grow.
"Outdoor growing remains the most efficient." - i don't think it does if you pick the correct crop, can you crop 10,000 lettuces a day in 25000 sq ft outside?
i agree with you about home greenhouse scenario but if i had enough space, i'd have both because i'd want 365 day growing capability
"This LED grow light concept?... no." i think you'll find the answer is YES - http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-...
You need to read the article - https://www.youtube.com/user/P... is worth checking out and so is this http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-... - produces 10,000 heads of lettuce a day in a 25,000 square foot (roughly half a football field) indoor farm. just in case you don't want to go to this page about the farm, here is a quote from it.
"To that end, the farm uses 17,500 LED lights spread across 18 cultivation racks, each towering 16 levels high. Combined with tightly modulated temperature and humidity levels within the grow room, this system has already shown significant advantages over outdoor farms since coming online earlier this year: Produce waste has been cut from 50 percent of a harvest to just 10, productivity per square foot has increased 100 fold, and water usage has been slashed to just 1 percent of what a conventional farm would consume."
"Part of the issue is that buildings are not built to grow things. And to really do proper urban farming, they have to either be modified or built from the ground up with that in mind." Why? you just need empty spaces for tiers of hydroponic racks, a water feed, electricity for the LEDs and water pumps, they generally all come with a building (depending on the building type) You can only get a fixed amount out of 1m square on a farm but with this system you could have 3 tiers of 1m square. When you are only supplying local, you don't need monster farms that are susceptible to being damaged from freak weather patterns. its never going to replace farms but if you live in an area where you can only grow for part of the year, its going to be very useful.
"This product they're thinking about selling... I can't see anyone outside of some government goofball on expense account buying this thing" there are a few greenhouse farms in the UK testing these systems out and they can now grow tomatoes all year. Visit youtube and check some of the reports on the success of these LED farms
"it's hard to compete with a fertile field in a nice climate" you should watch a few of the youtube videos about these LED hydro places, you might change your mind
It would help if you are using solar to power the LEDs. Water is only cheap in some places, California seems to be having a few issues with not enough water. The farmers are being blamed for taking most of it. If they could use this system in more places then it would save a lot. The cost of a 5 storey block may be high but if its full of layers and layers of growing food for 24 hours and day, 365 days a year, it will soon work out cost effective. Considering the amount of land you'd need to compare to the 365 day a year output of this hydro-led system, it would be more expensive to buy and prepare ready for crops. No weeding, no spraying etc, the advantages are enormous especially when these places are pretty much computer controlled.
If Ellen Pao says the "buck stops with me" , she should do the decent thing and resign as that what happens when the bucks stops with you.
"one, not a fan of binary logging." so he's not a fan of binary logging but he didn't say why, maybe he'll update his thoughts once he uses the related tools like journalctl to see what benefits it brings.
"two some of the personalities involved are problematic." - he's not exactly a charmer at times either depends which side of the fence you are sitting at the time. He has brought many a developer into line when they step over the boundary.
" The bigger issue, though, is systemd's influence over other projects. But that wasn't raised, so why would he comment?" - perhaps there was nothing to say about it as its not as worrying as people like to troll about. If any other projects want to interface with systemd, thats an issue you need to take up with them.
" bloatware" is always used by people who don't know what they are talking about.
they all have their own versions..
yawn... that is getting very old now, can't you think of anything original?
Unfortunately for you, Torvalds understands more about systemd that you do. You need to read and comprehend a little more, stop relying on trolls that also don't know what systemd is or isn't. 90% of those items listed are optional but are part of the "systemd project" and not part of the systemd binary, you can choose to use any of them over the current offerings if you wish, its not compulsory.
"Not exactly a positive endorsement on the quality of the systemd code." - how on earth do you get that understanding from what he said? its called "grasping at straws"
they did one fork.. Devuan. but it doesn't seem to have made many headlines lately
"The people who are most against systemd are the serious, professional, often long-time Linux system administrators who have to provision and maintain production Linux systems." - can you point to the proof of that statement and the others you make?
yep, i glad i've just upgraded to a blackberry passport, i now get upto 4 days before charging. but i'm not an app addict, just use the phone, email, contact, calendar, browser, camera.
is that why you've got a chip on your shoulder about it?
Have you ever installed libreoffice on windows with chocolatey? The windows native install is slooooooow but on linux its fast so if it can do it nearly as fast as linux then it wouldn't be a bad proposition.