1 cents over 20 bucks goes to distribution companies, artists get ZIT, distribution companies dont employ any noticeable portion of workforce or supply any noticeable side industries, buuuuuut, you come up here saying 'so many lives ruined'.
excuse me, but are you stupid ? are you SO completely naive ? how the hell are you even able to muster the cognitive power to use internet ? read the below so you can get some sense in your head :
this shit isnt about copyright, or counterfeiting. these are all side perks and excuses.
its about preparing the grounds for mechanisms that would enable control of the internet. once mechanisms to prevent 'copyright abuses' are in place, the same mechanisms can also easily be used to prevent any 'undesirable' sources of opinion, information or activity. once gates and controls are in place, no upstart will be coming up politically or business wise and upsetting the power balance that is already established. or challenge it. internet will be much more easier to shape into a cable tv network.
they banked on copyright, because child porn thing and anti net neutrality stuff didnt fly. many countries in europe was too liberal for porn to be used as an excuse, and net neutrality was the de facto and logical reality in anywhere in the world BUT usa. and europeans were rather too conscious with the statistics that their governments couldnt push the nonexistent minority of child porn abuse as something to hamper internet for.
but copyright excuse seems to be working. however, some countries in europe are already treating internet access as a citizens' right, some are legislating it (like finland) and many are pushing government functions and services to the internet because its much more efficient and less costly to conduct these over the internet. it can only be stupid, way too insolent american corporate lobbyists' naivete to expect the '3 strikes' shit to work in other places. one lawsuit in european human rights court, and their 3 strikes and their ban gets shoved up their asses.
but i have one thing to say to you americans ; you have to wake up from that 'let corporations be' shit, and start regulating your business so that corporations wont BUY laws from your parliament. you have been tolerant of this shit for SO long that it has come to this point :
while teleworking, its not like they will be using bandwidth. just like you work in your office - you work on your local document or whatever, and THEN send it through email to the recipient party anyway. your instant messenger will be still online, regardless of you are teleworking, or in the office. so there is no goddamn difference in between teleworking and being in the office.
another hilarious part is 'kids playing online games'. the network demand of the online games are pathetically low compared to many other applications.
what the fuck else was i trying to say, pray tell me. and also please tell me what the fuck i am going to eat for lunch today. also, tell my next 5 years' fortune please.
you should learn not to put fucking words in people's mouths, if you want to be taken seriously, and responded to. this is why i havent responded to your blabberscrap, and you wont get another reply.
'andnothingofvaluewaslost'. dear moron. a lot of people ran various informational sites since the dawn of the internet on geocities, because getting your own cost an arm and a leg, especially if you were a student or had a low budget. one of my later clients hosted a website on mines and mining on geocities. a lot of the political dissent was expressed in geocities because 'blogging' and wordpress wasnt around then. STILL a lot of dissenters in repressed regimes were using geocities. leaving that aside, all the sites that were set up long ago was up there and you occasionally ended up in a geocities page while looking for a certain bit of information.
if you didnt know these, then you shouldnt have gone out of your way to tag it with that, because you didnt know shit about the subject. if you knew these, but still tagged it like this, the only thing you deserve a strong kick in your face.
next time, you feel the urge to tag something 'andnothingofvaluewaslost', tag yourself.
automotive vehicles use a lot of resources, but noone comes up saying we should stop using them. because there are quite important benefits.
it kinda felt that this book is taking the pets as something of a vanity, with no immediate and important benefits. a very stupid point of view that is.
it is repeatedly proven that keeping pets alleviates a lot of stress accumulation in people, which, if not mitigated, could seek other ways to get rid of, or should lead to disorders in people's personality. nothing anormal here, modern times are stressful indeed.
but what happens when you take pets out of the equation ? imagine some percentage of the population becoming more stressed, erratic, disturbed and annoying. imagine these people interacting with the others on the road, at work, in the grocery store, school and in the house. wouldnt that lead to more problematic behaviour due to increased level of stress in general populace ? entry level psychopaths around every 4-5th corner you turn on the road.
no sir i dont like the sound of it. i dont like such visionless, knee-jerk approaches to environmentalism either.
thats as good as it goes. if something is so fucking valuable that it 'justifies' 13 years of 'patent duration', that means it can make heaps of money. that means, if you want to make money, you should USE it and make that money.
noone should be allowed to patent stuff, hoard them and just wait, working on other things or waiting for someone to use a similar thing and troll on them. this is knowledge. if you invented something, and are not using it, you shouldnt be able to bar mankind's progress when someone else invents it through their own means.
fucking up of internet by american companies because they want to make it into a cable internet would incur SO much bigger a backlash from international economic community and get the internet out of usa's control and home ground SO fast that dumping of the dollar would be the least of your concerns.
the corporations dont want to leave internet 'as it is'. they want to CHANGE it, so they will be able to run their networks as cable networks. this is why you need net neutrality rules. net neutrality rules are no different than rules that govern the highways -> no highway administration can decide who passes over the road or charge any traffic according to source, not the type and amount.
get a fucking brain and realize what's going on before purporting knee jerk alan greenspanist comments.
just what do you expect from the republicans. EVERY kind of move they made to control people's lives are disguised as 'for freedom'.
why the fuck arent highways being sold to whomever bids the highest for them, and they are let to discriminate against any and whomever they like and charge them whatever they like, for 'free market' and freedom ? why the fuck all the conservatives stop dead, when asked why arent we doing this ? wouldnt private companies run roads better ? isnt it scuttling investment to not allow private interests to build roads and run them ? and why the fuck shouldnt they be allowed who passes from their roads, and charge whomever they want, and whatever they want, because it is 'their' road ?
america needs to be get rid of republican ilk. they work against freedom of individuals by throwing them at the mercy of big private interests with every fucking move they make, and they dub this 'liberty'. LIBERTY WAS NOT MEANT AS 'BIG FISH COULD RULE SMALLER FISH' AND CALL THIS 'FREEDOM'.
there is no law of nature that says 'there should be at least one positive or constructive item in a block of opinion, or logical preposition, or facts.
diogenes used to jerk off in the middle of agora (equivalent of market in ancient greece) on midday on busy weekdays. there is nothing positive or constructive about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
as i said, get over it - facts, opinions, observations do NOT need to have anything positive or constructive.
And by the way, just so you know: Slashdot does not allow people to mod conversations in which they take part. So... I have not modded anybody.
its the mindset. you would have modded down a comment in a topic you wouldnt comment yourself. its detrimental to expression.
I suspect that you might have been angry for some reason, since your final 3 sentences make no sense at all (not that the others did, much). But I will hazard a guess and say I agree with you, to the extent that the "Founding Fathers" would have been fools to try to abolish slavery around the time of the revolution. That would have been political suicide. At a minimum there would have been rioting in the streets. More likely they would have been hanged for their efforts.
they actually didnt do anything at all - leave aside from refraining from it due to possibility of 'riots in the streets'. compare what lafayette did with his emancipation project to all of the other founding fathers of yours, and youll see the difference. and, i dont have anything to be angry about at all, for i dont have any relevance to america, or africans or anything relevant to that. its pure history, facts and bare truth.
with increased brain activity and inspiration your inner world becomes more active. and it naturally reflects to outside. and there are a lot of musings coming from the inspiration.
every FUCKING sentence in a block of paragraphs does NOT need to be 'positive and constructive'. this is not fucking shangri-la where people are exempt from the worldly problems and levitate around in utopian landscapes in harmony. this is plain old earth, where EVERYthing comes with a lot of problems and emotions attached.
get used to it. modding down a paragraph because you werent able to get 'positivity' from every fucking sentence is discarding the american founding fathers' contributions to humanism and liberty, because they owned and put to work slaves. and they did.
'you cannot discriminate against any other competitor or content provider' does NOT mean that 'you cant make money'.
its the fucking RULE of the free, competitive market for centuries anyway ? is any company allowed to block roads and prevent other companies from moving their truckfull of products over the areas they own ? is anyone allowed to block a higwhay because the highway was built on private land ? or, is a corporation that runs a bridge is allowed to block traffic of vehicles which belong to a company that is a competitor to its parent company ?
internet is just like roads, bridges. you can NOT allow anyone to claim lordship over ANY portion of it, because it would directly kill the flow of information and commerce by killing their competitors at their whim. leave aside 'nourishing it', as those morons posing as lawmakers claim.
those 72 'lawmakers' are either STUPID, or dont know shit about laissez faire economics or internet. i would assume both, plus they were possibly bought by big evil like at&t, time warner etc.
use the roads and bridges example in every time you hear some moron says 'net neutrality hampers investment'. IF, they insist, ask them whether they would allow you to buy highways and decide who passes over them and who not, and charge whomever you want more than the others... they will probably shut the fuck up and get it.
violating net neutrality may be good for a number of companies and their shareholders. but it harms internet a lot in the long run and in general. you can not count the number of businesses, individuals, sectors that could be harmed if we dont have solid net neutrality.
the mere proposition of an anti net neutrality concept is beyond STUPID itself :
imagine a world that private companies, not the government builds and maintains roads and collect tolls from those who use the roads. imagine that those companies are allowed to decide 'what happens on their road'. imagine they ban some routes, some cargo, or some people from their roads, as their profits require. what kind of world would it be ?
there is NO difference in between what these morons are proposing and this. its basically this in plainspeak : "we have built infrastructure on PUBLIC land, we are running the main communication lines for entire nation/world, we monopolize entire regions/states/countries through our licenses granted, but we want to decide what happens in 'our' networks".
the number of fallacies, amount of foolery and bastardiness in this proposition are innumerable and endless :
- first, it is NOT your fucking network. all your infrastructure was built on land that was leased to you by the nation, the public. the land STILL belongs to them, its on lease, and its still public's property.
- second, most of you have MONOPOLY licenses that cover entire regions, states, even countries. you basically are the sole controllers of the flow of information and business over those region/state/countries' networks. you can NOT freehandedly decide whatever you want to do in those monopolies, because it will directly affect the freedoms of people living on those areas. and no, moronic statements like 'hey, there are competitors providing dialup' doesnt count - having to go with a 128 kbit dialup provider because they are the only competitor to a big 4 mbit connection provider that cornered the market, or has a competitor license does NOT count as 'freedom of choice'.
- third, internet is a strategic resource now. its no small scale operation, in some european countries and some countries around the world most of the government functions are conducted in between the ministries' sites and citizens' computers in their homes or businesses. because it is very effective to do as such, saves hoards of cash and time for both government and the citizen, and increases efficiency. a lot of private companies are even using that method of conducting business. so, internet is no hobbyists' or enthusiasts' pastime anymore. it IS an important tool for the running of daily life. you can NOT decide what happens on your network, because it would mean leaving people's freedoms in the hands of a private decisionmaker in a goddamn company. we didnt fight independence wars and mounted revolutions and established democracies for that.
so, its not about business or profits. its about progress. just like the roads, just like the american revolution and french revolution, just like a democracy, its about freedoms sometimes.
and dont excuse me - the freedoms of people and public are ABOVE profits or interests of any private interest group or company. companies are there to better the lives of people, not people to better the companies' profits.
you are one of those morons who mods people down just because they express VALID points in their own style.
morons like you are causing a lot of good comments getting modded down because you spot a few 'foul' or 'hard' words among a whole bunch of text and then downmod it as 'troll'.
well, i have two words for that kind of attitide :
Slashdot Mirror
1 cents over 20 bucks goes to distribution companies, artists get ZIT, distribution companies dont employ any noticeable portion of workforce or supply any noticeable side industries, buuuuuut, you come up here saying 'so many lives ruined'.
excuse me, but are you stupid ? are you SO completely naive ? how the hell are you even able to muster the cognitive power to use internet ? read the below so you can get some sense in your head :
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430956&cid=29979454
this shit isnt about copyright, or counterfeiting. these are all side perks and excuses.
its about preparing the grounds for mechanisms that would enable control of the internet. once mechanisms to prevent 'copyright abuses' are in place, the same mechanisms can also easily be used to prevent any 'undesirable' sources of opinion, information or activity. once gates and controls are in place, no upstart will be coming up politically or business wise and upsetting the power balance that is already established. or challenge it. internet will be much more easier to shape into a cable tv network.
they banked on copyright, because child porn thing and anti net neutrality stuff didnt fly. many countries in europe was too liberal for porn to be used as an excuse, and net neutrality was the de facto and logical reality in anywhere in the world BUT usa. and europeans were rather too conscious with the statistics that their governments couldnt push the nonexistent minority of child porn abuse as something to hamper internet for.
but copyright excuse seems to be working. however, some countries in europe are already treating internet access as a citizens' right, some are legislating it (like finland) and many are pushing government functions and services to the internet because its much more efficient and less costly to conduct these over the internet. it can only be stupid, way too insolent american corporate lobbyists' naivete to expect the '3 strikes' shit to work in other places. one lawsuit in european human rights court, and their 3 strikes and their ban gets shoved up their asses.
but i have one thing to say to you americans ; you have to wake up from that 'let corporations be' shit, and start regulating your business so that corporations wont BUY laws from your parliament. you have been tolerant of this shit for SO long that it has come to this point :
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-14-2009/rape-nuts
in 3, 2, 1 ....
while teleworking, its not like they will be using bandwidth. just like you work in your office - you work on your local document or whatever, and THEN send it through email to the recipient party anyway. your instant messenger will be still online, regardless of you are teleworking, or in the office. so there is no goddamn difference in between teleworking and being in the office.
another hilarious part is 'kids playing online games'. the network demand of the online games are pathetically low compared to many other applications.
all these concerns seem to be bullshit.
what the fuck else was i trying to say, pray tell me. and also please tell me what the fuck i am going to eat for lunch today. also, tell my next 5 years' fortune please.
you should learn not to put fucking words in people's mouths, if you want to be taken seriously, and responded to. this is why i havent responded to your blabberscrap, and you wont get another reply.
'andnothingofvaluewaslost'. dear moron. a lot of people ran various informational sites since the dawn of the internet on geocities, because getting your own cost an arm and a leg, especially if you were a student or had a low budget. one of my later clients hosted a website on mines and mining on geocities. a lot of the political dissent was expressed in geocities because 'blogging' and wordpress wasnt around then. STILL a lot of dissenters in repressed regimes were using geocities. leaving that aside, all the sites that were set up long ago was up there and you occasionally ended up in a geocities page while looking for a certain bit of information.
if you didnt know these, then you shouldnt have gone out of your way to tag it with that, because you didnt know shit about the subject. if you knew these, but still tagged it like this, the only thing you deserve a strong kick in your face.
next time, you feel the urge to tag something 'andnothingofvaluewaslost', tag yourself.
numerous more researches were done and it was found out that it ended a few years earlier than 2012.
automotive vehicles use a lot of resources, but noone comes up saying we should stop using them. because there are quite important benefits.
it kinda felt that this book is taking the pets as something of a vanity, with no immediate and important benefits. a very stupid point of view that is.
it is repeatedly proven that keeping pets alleviates a lot of stress accumulation in people, which, if not mitigated, could seek other ways to get rid of, or should lead to disorders in people's personality. nothing anormal here, modern times are stressful indeed.
but what happens when you take pets out of the equation ? imagine some percentage of the population becoming more stressed, erratic, disturbed and annoying. imagine these people interacting with the others on the road, at work, in the grocery store, school and in the house. wouldnt that lead to more problematic behaviour due to increased level of stress in general populace ? entry level psychopaths around every 4-5th corner you turn on the road.
no sir i dont like the sound of it. i dont like such visionless, knee-jerk approaches to environmentalism either.
thats as good as it goes. if something is so fucking valuable that it 'justifies' 13 years of 'patent duration', that means it can make heaps of money. that means, if you want to make money, you should USE it and make that money.
noone should be allowed to patent stuff, hoard them and just wait, working on other things or waiting for someone to use a similar thing and troll on them. this is knowledge. if you invented something, and are not using it, you shouldnt be able to bar mankind's progress when someone else invents it through their own means.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-14-2009/rape-nuts
it has come to this point. because, you let those fucking republicans yelp on and on about 'letting businesses be'.
net neutrality is no different. its the freedom of internet being legalized. yet, same bastards oppose it with the same old barking.
fucking up of internet by american companies because they want to make it into a cable internet would incur SO much bigger a backlash from international economic community and get the internet out of usa's control and home ground SO fast that dumping of the dollar would be the least of your concerns.
the corporations dont want to leave internet 'as it is'. they want to CHANGE it, so they will be able to run their networks as cable networks. this is why you need net neutrality rules. net neutrality rules are no different than rules that govern the highways -> no highway administration can decide who passes over the road or charge any traffic according to source, not the type and amount.
get a fucking brain and realize what's going on before purporting knee jerk alan greenspanist comments.
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1406601&cid=29770311
just what do you expect from the republicans. EVERY kind of move they made to control people's lives are disguised as 'for freedom'.
why the fuck arent highways being sold to whomever bids the highest for them, and they are let to discriminate against any and whomever they like and charge them whatever they like, for 'free market' and freedom ? why the fuck all the conservatives stop dead, when asked why arent we doing this ? wouldnt private companies run roads better ? isnt it scuttling investment to not allow private interests to build roads and run them ? and why the fuck shouldnt they be allowed who passes from their roads, and charge whomever they want, and whatever they want, because it is 'their' road ?
america needs to be get rid of republican ilk. they work against freedom of individuals by throwing them at the mercy of big private interests with every fucking move they make, and they dub this 'liberty'. LIBERTY WAS NOT MEANT AS 'BIG FISH COULD RULE SMALLER FISH' AND CALL THIS 'FREEDOM'.
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1406601&cid=29770311
what is sharepoint ?
there is no law of nature that says 'there should be at least one positive or constructive item in a block of opinion, or logical preposition, or facts.
diogenes used to jerk off in the middle of agora (equivalent of market in ancient greece) on midday on busy weekdays. there is nothing positive or constructive about that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
as i said, get over it - facts, opinions, observations do NOT need to have anything positive or constructive.
And by the way, just so you know: Slashdot does not allow people to mod conversations in which they take part. So... I have not modded anybody.
its the mindset. you would have modded down a comment in a topic you wouldnt comment yourself. its detrimental to expression.
I suspect that you might have been angry for some reason, since your final 3 sentences make no sense at all (not that the others did, much). But I will hazard a guess and say I agree with you, to the extent that the "Founding Fathers" would have been fools to try to abolish slavery around the time of the revolution. That would have been political suicide. At a minimum there would have been rioting in the streets. More likely they would have been hanged for their efforts.
they actually didnt do anything at all - leave aside from refraining from it due to possibility of 'riots in the streets'. compare what lafayette did with his emancipation project to all of the other founding fathers of yours, and youll see the difference. and, i dont have anything to be angry about at all, for i dont have any relevance to america, or africans or anything relevant to that. its pure history, facts and bare truth.
those bright eyed young prep students already come with comparable net experience as 30 year old geeks.
He was 21 and doing a 12-month placement, shouldn't he be making the most of finally earning some money?
you mean, wasting his money and his life in shady bar corners with sleazy whores ?
with increased brain activity and inspiration your inner world becomes more active. and it naturally reflects to outside. and there are a lot of musings coming from the inspiration.
"it is god given right of aristocracy to govern and be above others". french law excerpt, circa 1770.
something being written as 'law' does not mean that it is either true, or justified, or even valid. get this in your head.
being unable to cope with technical advances of 2000s is the shortcoming of law. not anyone else's.
i've been waiting for this ... dont ask why.
its even more disturbing when someone smart utters stupid shit.
every FUCKING sentence in a block of paragraphs does NOT need to be 'positive and constructive'. this is not fucking shangri-la where people are exempt from the worldly problems and levitate around in utopian landscapes in harmony. this is plain old earth, where EVERYthing comes with a lot of problems and emotions attached.
get used to it. modding down a paragraph because you werent able to get 'positivity' from every fucking sentence is discarding the american founding fathers' contributions to humanism and liberty, because they owned and put to work slaves. and they did.
'you cannot discriminate against any other competitor or content provider' does NOT mean that 'you cant make money'.
its the fucking RULE of the free, competitive market for centuries anyway ? is any company allowed to block roads and prevent other companies from moving their truckfull of products over the areas they own ? is anyone allowed to block a higwhay because the highway was built on private land ? or, is a corporation that runs a bridge is allowed to block traffic of vehicles which belong to a company that is a competitor to its parent company ?
internet is just like roads, bridges. you can NOT allow anyone to claim lordship over ANY portion of it, because it would directly kill the flow of information and commerce by killing their competitors at their whim. leave aside 'nourishing it', as those morons posing as lawmakers claim.
those 72 'lawmakers' are either STUPID, or dont know shit about laissez faire economics or internet. i would assume both, plus they were possibly bought by big evil like at&t, time warner etc.
use the roads and bridges example in every time you hear some moron says 'net neutrality hampers investment'. IF, they insist, ask them whether they would allow you to buy highways and decide who passes over them and who not, and charge whomever you want more than the others... they will probably shut the fuck up and get it.
its about progress.
violating net neutrality may be good for a number of companies and their shareholders. but it harms internet a lot in the long run and in general. you can not count the number of businesses, individuals, sectors that could be harmed if we dont have solid net neutrality.
the mere proposition of an anti net neutrality concept is beyond STUPID itself :
imagine a world that private companies, not the government builds and maintains roads and collect tolls from those who use the roads. imagine that those companies are allowed to decide 'what happens on their road'. imagine they ban some routes, some cargo, or some people from their roads, as their profits require. what kind of world would it be ?
there is NO difference in between what these morons are proposing and this. its basically this in plainspeak : "we have built infrastructure on PUBLIC land, we are running the main communication lines for entire nation/world, we monopolize entire regions/states/countries through our licenses granted, but we want to decide what happens in 'our' networks".
the number of fallacies, amount of foolery and bastardiness in this proposition are innumerable and endless :
- first, it is NOT your fucking network. all your infrastructure was built on land that was leased to you by the nation, the public. the land STILL belongs to them, its on lease, and its still public's property.
- second, most of you have MONOPOLY licenses that cover entire regions, states, even countries. you basically are the sole controllers of the flow of information and business over those region/state/countries' networks. you can NOT freehandedly decide whatever you want to do in those monopolies, because it will directly affect the freedoms of people living on those areas. and no, moronic statements like 'hey, there are competitors providing dialup' doesnt count - having to go with a 128 kbit dialup provider because they are the only competitor to a big 4 mbit connection provider that cornered the market, or has a competitor license does NOT count as 'freedom of choice'.
- third, internet is a strategic resource now. its no small scale operation, in some european countries and some countries around the world most of the government functions are conducted in between the ministries' sites and citizens' computers in their homes or businesses. because it is very effective to do as such, saves hoards of cash and time for both government and the citizen, and increases efficiency. a lot of private companies are even using that method of conducting business. so, internet is no hobbyists' or enthusiasts' pastime anymore. it IS an important tool for the running of daily life. you can NOT decide what happens on your network, because it would mean leaving people's freedoms in the hands of a private decisionmaker in a goddamn company. we didnt fight independence wars and mounted revolutions and established democracies for that.
so, its not about business or profits. its about progress. just like the roads, just like the american revolution and french revolution, just like a democracy, its about freedoms sometimes.
and dont excuse me - the freedoms of people and public are ABOVE profits or interests of any private interest group or company. companies are there to better the lives of people, not people to better the companies' profits.
you are one of those morons who mods people down just because they express VALID points in their own style.
morons like you are causing a lot of good comments getting modded down because you spot a few 'foul' or 'hard' words among a whole bunch of text and then downmod it as 'troll'.
well, i have two words for that kind of attitide :
fuck that.
enjoy.