at this moment my biggest considerations regarding gaming is when the new ideazon merc keyboard and mouse i have ordered are going to arrive and whether ill be continuing on my barb and or conqueror in age of conan.
which is great, i didnt think that we would see a game that can make me forget 2 level 70 gladiator geared, 2 40+, 3 30+ toons i had in wow, that soon.
they said it was limited and everyone who ordered it should put in their keys asap. many shops didnt even care about that, just sold games and delayed everything. you should be pestering your store about it.
just check out that idiot's other posts in this thread to see whether you can trust his badass wannabee shithead opinion or not. you move on the assumption that what some jerkwad says is reliable because some foolheads modded it informative.
if a player is not self-aware enough to check out and choose a class that would fit his/her playstyle, and just pick one that doesnt go well with his/her tastes well, and get bored in 3 hours. there is NOTHING that can be done against that. thats the way with mmos that offer more than one class to play, and thats going to be as such. just check one other post of that idiot in this thread, who got bored after 3 hours, in the curiously +3 informative modded shit of a post on top of this thread:
I got bored after reading the second sentence of your useless post. at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=557492&cid=23466090
just tell me it isnt useless to make such kind of faggot to like anything. that guy needs to be hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital instead of playing games.
still havent been able to decide on the class though. barbarian is fun, but there are other fun classes like conqueror, or hell, ranger. im totally at a dead end.
just read this jerk's parent comment:
I got bored after reading the second sentence of your useless post.
and read his below comment, which has been modded informative by some idiots who happened to have mod points :
I got in on the early release. Managed to get to Lv 9.
I was not impressed. The combat system is cool for about an hour or 2 then it's somewhat annoying. Mages are overpowered in that you cast one spell and the enemy dies.
Also everyone has Hide (AKA Stealth) yeah...everyone. There are some limitations but the ability is still there.
I think it needs a bit more tweaking, but again I'm not to thrilled with it.
Because the cult of Star Wars, which far far surpasses that of Conan, made SWG a huge success among the crowd in question right?
The answer is no. Also, it is not a small fraction of 10 Million subscriptions, in fact Blizzard defines the term to avoid this confusion. hahahahahaahahaaa.
well, actually the answer is YES, until soe screwed it over.
swg was stellar in the first 3-4 months, when it was filled with many sw fans. the atmosphere was so good that, i could just log in and wander around for hours, enjoying star wars atmosphere, created by that many fans in the game. (and im coming from starcraft background, note that, its hard for me to stay around without hard action).
then it started. in order to pull in people from other games, sony started to pour in crap. first, there was the creature handling horror. it was done so that, you HAD to have at least 1 pet behind you in order to be able to do missions. soon everyone had 1 or more pets running behind them, many had gruul maulers. it looked not like star wars, but some kind of f@cked up zoo.
this eliminated the first wave of star wars fans.
then came the horrible 'lets attract people from ad&d games' phase. to get gamers from other medieval and ad&d style games, soe boosted up the stupid SWORDSMAN, PIKEMAN, FENCER, TERAS KASI (this one is basically karate) classes they put into the game SO much that, entire game turned into a medieval fest rather than star wars. blasters meant nothing. some zygote with bare hands was able to knock you down from 30 m range, and kill you without you being able get up even once. people with PIKES, TWO HANDER swords were running everywhere.
this has been the major blow. at this phase we lost SO many star wars fans that game didnt look like what it was 2-3 months before that time.
then it all went downhill. then they alienated powergamers by changing the skill system, combat upgrade, then giving jedi thing to everyone, and lost the single segment of gamers they had left. soe did its crap, game went downhill and that.
so its irrelevant. had soe been HALFway decent with the game, swg would still be running. now its a flying fart.
So you seem to have you facts confused here. The cartoonish graphics didnt draw people to the game, instead like you said, peoples friends and colleagues got them playing. That is exactly why Wow is so successful, people can easily recommend the game to friends knowing how the game plays for new users themselves.
Wow succeeds because of this line of thinking among its users: "Hey you should play this game I got a while ago, it is pretty cool. If you want to play I can start a new character with you and we can pay together if you want." thats exactly why im saying that 10 m userbase is hot air. many people come in, being dragged in by people like me, just cancel out in a few months. they dont stay. i'd wager paying numbers are 2 to 3 million.
there is a zone named borderlands. in this zone, there is ffa pvp (even in pve servers). this zone constitutes roughly 5-10% or so of the entire map.
at this zone, guilds will be able to erect battlekeeps, siege other guilds' battlekeeps and take them over. also battlegrounds in the form of sieges (48 man is being developed) are going to be, as well as arena like 2v2, 3v3s etc (minigames they are called).
rest of the game is independent of this pvp content. as i said before, im very astonished with the kotor-like gameplay of the quests (and the good storylines with well written stories), i cant wait to roam around entire hyboria doing quests.
it aint so as i mentioned. hyboria is a HUGE world.
borderlands constitute only 10% of the map. the rest of the map in pve servers are no pvp zones. can you imagine doing it that way, and leaving those zones without content ?
the reality is, im on crom now, (pve) and im looking at a good 3-4 months of solid kotor-like content experience, from what i played on the weekend.
just rolling a single class (which would not fit in the general archetype of the same class you played somewhere else btw), and then just after 3 hours of playtime (yea you get to level 9 in 3 hours), deciding that the COMBAT SYSTEM (not that class, not that level range, not anything else but ENTIRE combat system ffs) is not fun. this is much more idiotic.
i consider that you are a troll or a wow or some other game fanboi, and ill just drop any further comments or response. adios.
they paid a great game, just at a time when i was losing interest in gaming in general. which is very, very important for me. i appreciate stuff nicely done.
funcom is not the ones that didnt 'fulfill' your preorder. the store you bought from was responsible with keeping track of what they said and delivering them. some of them has been lax in acquiring early access keys and delivering them, some not. i bought from gamersloot.net just 3 days before ea started, and i got in.
and its not fulfilling your 'preorder' btw, its the shop you bought from not supplying you with an early access key, and you werent being able to put it in time to get in ea.
I don't play an MMO for the graphics -- it's about the gameplay. And while AOC is not bad, its questing engine is a direct ripoff of WOW, and its social networking ability (groupings, raids, etc) are not nearly as intuitive as WOW. i play everything for the gameplay. im specifically and stubbornly avoiding playing gothic 3, because the gameplay and storyline didnt captivate me, despite one of my friends blowing my ear off praising its graphics.
graphics are important when they supplement the atmosphere. when you see a very life like corpse dangling up the city gate of tortage, the city gate going up and down in all its realism, you really forget you are in your living room, playing a game. this is the thing.
social networking, abilities are yet to be seen. remember, wow was much worse at the launch, it was totally pathetic compared to the smooth gig conan had.
given the amount of time people have invested into WOW, I doubt you will see a lot of people going to AOC over WOW. had level 70 gladiator geared rogue, and shaman, level 45 warlock, 3 more other level 30-40 chars.
i dont care about effort, fun matters. i went into aoc, saw that each and every combat was exciting and fun, arcadish, even, and im not looking back now. seeing my barbarian swing his 2 hander this way and that way, and pull out combos as i hit the keys beats everything i had done in wow just by itself.
wow brought many non gamers into play because of its cartoonish looks and the players dragging in their friends, coworkers, relatives, spouses. many of those peopla also quit the game in the first few months. i witnessed many coming in and going out quick. yes, they have 10 m subscribers, but a small percentage of them are running subscriptions. most of them are just canceled accounts.
if you talk about non gamer appeal, conan has much more punch than wow can ever dream to be. conan novels were out EVEN before lord of the rings's first word was written on paper by tolkien. (dates back to 1930s), and conan comics have been around much longer than any lotro material. entire generations grew up on conan comics. a game that looks better than best drawn conan comic, is a surefire candy for any of those people. and i assure you, it is.
arena is bullshit. the favorite class combo of that particular month gets the game most of the time. regardless of 'skill'. there cant be no 'skill' in a game where crowd control spells rule the gameplay.
so you got to level 9, was killing enemies with one mage spell, and it was boring.
whopping amount of the game, you have seen while you were leveling to level 9. thats about it - entire game, and enemies die by just a mage spell in further levels. youre missing nothing.
you should immediately cancel your subscription to aoc, because it will be a waste of time (since all content and the game actually matures up to level 9, and there arent 80 levels) because you seen all of it, and you learned and mastered the combat system. it will also be good for the other subscribers, you not being a member of the community.
i also would thank the loons who used mod points informative on this.
thank you, loons. a person comes up and says that 'enemies die with a single spell at f@ckin level 9 therefore combat system is boring', and you mod it INFORMATIVE.
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well, im gaming since 1982 when i was 7. you develop an immunity after a while.
at this moment my biggest considerations regarding gaming is when the new ideazon merc keyboard and mouse i have ordered are going to arrive and whether ill be continuing on my barb and or conqueror in age of conan.
which is great, i didnt think that we would see a game that can make me forget 2 level 70 gladiator geared, 2 40+, 3 30+ toons i had in wow, that soon.
if you preordered, you already have a right to an account at funcom. if you open your account you can log in to forums and put your case.
pal if thats your major problem, you would be far better off in a tailor shop than a mmo game.
you should ask this question in their forums then.
Dick Cheney donating to American-Arab Friendship society.
it seems that you have just missed with minutes.
if they are being insulting about it, post what they told you here, so we will all know.
they said it was limited and everyone who ordered it should put in their keys asap. many shops didnt even care about that, just sold games and delayed everything. you should be pestering your store about it.
just check out that idiot's other posts in this thread to see whether you can trust his badass wannabee shithead opinion or not. you move on the assumption that what some jerkwad says is reliable because some foolheads modded it informative.
whats the problem with it ?
just tell me it isnt useless to make such kind of faggot to like anything. that guy needs to be hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital instead of playing games.
still havent been able to decide on the class though. barbarian is fun, but there are other fun classes like conqueror, or hell, ranger. im totally at a dead end.
and read his below comment, which has been modded informative by some idiots who happened to have mod points :
I got in on the early release. Managed to get to Lv 9. I was not impressed. The combat system is cool for about an hour or 2 then it's somewhat annoying. Mages are overpowered in that you cast one spell and the enemy dies. Also everyone has Hide (AKA Stealth) yeah...everyone. There are some limitations but the ability is still there. I think it needs a bit more tweaking, but again I'm not to thrilled with it.
see a psychological deficiency pattern ?
we need more meta moderation in slahsdot.
you have a particular problem then. none of my 20 guildmates experienced anything, nor thousands posting in forums.
well, actually the answer is YES, until soe screwed it over.
swg was stellar in the first 3-4 months, when it was filled with many sw fans. the atmosphere was so good that, i could just log in and wander around for hours, enjoying star wars atmosphere, created by that many fans in the game. (and im coming from starcraft background, note that, its hard for me to stay around without hard action).
then it started. in order to pull in people from other games, sony started to pour in crap. first, there was the creature handling horror. it was done so that, you HAD to have at least 1 pet behind you in order to be able to do missions. soon everyone had 1 or more pets running behind them, many had gruul maulers. it looked not like star wars, but some kind of f@cked up zoo.
this eliminated the first wave of star wars fans.
then came the horrible 'lets attract people from ad&d games' phase. to get gamers from other medieval and ad&d style games, soe boosted up the stupid SWORDSMAN, PIKEMAN, FENCER, TERAS KASI (this one is basically karate) classes they put into the game SO much that, entire game turned into a medieval fest rather than star wars. blasters meant nothing. some zygote with bare hands was able to knock you down from 30 m range, and kill you without you being able get up even once. people with PIKES, TWO HANDER swords were running everywhere.
this has been the major blow. at this phase we lost SO many star wars fans that game didnt look like what it was 2-3 months before that time.
then it all went downhill. then they alienated powergamers by changing the skill system, combat upgrade, then giving jedi thing to everyone, and lost the single segment of gamers they had left. soe did its crap, game went downhill and that.
so its irrelevant. had soe been HALFway decent with the game, swg would still be running. now its a flying fart.
So you seem to have you facts confused here. The cartoonish graphics didnt draw people to the game, instead like you said, peoples friends and colleagues got them playing. That is exactly why Wow is so successful, people can easily recommend the game to friends knowing how the game plays for new users themselves. Wow succeeds because of this line of thinking among its users: "Hey you should play this game I got a while ago, it is pretty cool. If you want to play I can start a new character with you and we can pay together if you want." thats exactly why im saying that 10 m userbase is hot air. many people come in, being dragged in by people like me, just cancel out in a few months. they dont stay. i'd wager paying numbers are 2 to 3 million.
they put in bold words that early access slots were limited, and you needed to register it fast.
the blame lies on your store that didnt fetch you the ea key on time.
endgame pvp is not like in other games.
there is a zone named borderlands. in this zone, there is ffa pvp (even in pve servers). this zone constitutes roughly 5-10% or so of the entire map.
at this zone, guilds will be able to erect battlekeeps, siege other guilds' battlekeeps and take them over. also battlegrounds in the form of sieges (48 man is being developed) are going to be, as well as arena like 2v2, 3v3s etc (minigames they are called).
rest of the game is independent of this pvp content. as i said before, im very astonished with the kotor-like gameplay of the quests (and the good storylines with well written stories), i cant wait to roam around entire hyboria doing quests.
it aint so as i mentioned. hyboria is a HUGE world.
borderlands constitute only 10% of the map. the rest of the map in pve servers are no pvp zones. can you imagine doing it that way, and leaving those zones without content ?
the reality is, im on crom now, (pve) and im looking at a good 3-4 months of solid kotor-like content experience, from what i played on the weekend.
just rolling a single class (which would not fit in the general archetype of the same class you played somewhere else btw), and then just after 3 hours of playtime (yea you get to level 9 in 3 hours), deciding that the COMBAT SYSTEM (not that class, not that level range, not anything else but ENTIRE combat system ffs) is not fun. this is much more idiotic.
i consider that you are a troll or a wow or some other game fanboi, and ill just drop any further comments or response. adios.
they paid a great game, just at a time when i was losing interest in gaming in general. which is very, very important for me. i appreciate stuff nicely done.
funcom is not the ones that didnt 'fulfill' your preorder. the store you bought from was responsible with keeping track of what they said and delivering them. some of them has been lax in acquiring early access keys and delivering them, some not. i bought from gamersloot.net just 3 days before ea started, and i got in.
and its not fulfilling your 'preorder' btw, its the shop you bought from not supplying you with an early access key, and you werent being able to put it in time to get in ea.
graphics are important when they supplement the atmosphere. when you see a very life like corpse dangling up the city gate of tortage, the city gate going up and down in all its realism, you really forget you are in your living room, playing a game. this is the thing.
social networking, abilities are yet to be seen. remember, wow was much worse at the launch, it was totally pathetic compared to the smooth gig conan had.
given the amount of time people have invested into WOW, I doubt you will see a lot of people going to AOC over WOW. had level 70 gladiator geared rogue, and shaman, level 45 warlock, 3 more other level 30-40 chars.
i dont care about effort, fun matters. i went into aoc, saw that each and every combat was exciting and fun, arcadish, even, and im not looking back now. seeing my barbarian swing his 2 hander this way and that way, and pull out combos as i hit the keys beats everything i had done in wow just by itself.
wow brought many non gamers into play because of its cartoonish looks and the players dragging in their friends, coworkers, relatives, spouses. many of those peopla also quit the game in the first few months. i witnessed many coming in and going out quick. yes, they have 10 m subscribers, but a small percentage of them are running subscriptions. most of them are just canceled accounts.
if you talk about non gamer appeal, conan has much more punch than wow can ever dream to be. conan novels were out EVEN before lord of the rings's first word was written on paper by tolkien. (dates back to 1930s), and conan comics have been around much longer than any lotro material. entire generations grew up on conan comics. a game that looks better than best drawn conan comic, is a surefire candy for any of those people. and i assure you, it is.
arena is bullshit. the favorite class combo of that particular month gets the game most of the time. regardless of 'skill'. there cant be no 'skill' in a game where crowd control spells rule the gameplay.
so you got to level 9, was killing enemies with one mage spell, and it was boring.
whopping amount of the game, you have seen while you were leveling to level 9. thats about it - entire game, and enemies die by just a mage spell in further levels. youre missing nothing.
you should immediately cancel your subscription to aoc, because it will be a waste of time (since all content and the game actually matures up to level 9, and there arent 80 levels) because you seen all of it, and you learned and mastered the combat system. it will also be good for the other subscribers, you not being a member of the community.
i also would thank the loons who used mod points informative on this.
thank you, loons. a person comes up and says that 'enemies die with a single spell at f@ckin level 9 therefore combat system is boring', and you mod it INFORMATIVE.