First of all, you really have no proof that it was put in the game "just for the sake of game development and financial concerns," but even if it was, it's a game. Game development concerns are quite valid. i am sure of it. they intentionally delayed wow and instead put out war 3, to check up on how other important mmogs that had big lore and were being put out at that time went. they learned from every mistake soe did. additionally, game development concerns are always inferior to lore concerns. because nomatter how replayability, user interface, mechanics are, when you shatter a lore you eventually remove the game's pull on the gamer. similar to swg.
More importantly, just because you don't like where they went doesn't mean that it's "spoiled." Opinions are like assholes, after all. I personally find the echoes of imperialistic "civilized" society versus the "savage" natives using traditional fantasy tropes far more interesting than yet another stale retelling of Lord of the Rings, which is what "traditional" fantasy has become. The wider array of moral dilemmas introduced by having the Horde races not be blatantly evil, nor the Alliance be purely good is more entertaining for the nuances therein. The fact that parts of the Human race are corrupt simply makes them more, well, human. no 2 faction happens to be equal in terms of good/evil in even real world. however in wow there is, and this perfect equality purported by scripters is showing up. its not about "opinion", its about a measure of realism. you depict a faction as pure evil in 2 major games, then instantly twist it in your 3rd game to make ground for a 4th game on the lore. TOTAL stunt.
As for changing Celtic myths (which they largely aren't, as I said and you ignored, they are mostly Norse), most of those myths were passed on orally, and is therefore quite suspect... There is no "canon" that is irrevocably "true," while all others are false. The world would be a far less colorful place if we could only tell a story one way. they mostly are not norse, actually a great deal of them comes from the place where celts were last present independently before roman invasion - the british isles.
even if it has been as you said theres still a CONTINUITY concept. you can make 'changes' to a lore and twist it, but you cant overturn FUNDAMENTAL stuff amongst it. its not about color and such, its about coming up and saying "humans are actually not humans at all, humans are in fact holo-images projected by some alien civilization to fool just one actual human" in REAL world, in order to prepare some ground for some financial enterprise. its totally awkward.
there was > (greater sign) to the right of the congress. so congress greater than any office it said. therefore, even with low approval ratings, congress still is the representative of the people. just think about bush's approval ratings.
ill pay $150 any time as damages. its more than what they deserve. but i ask, are they going to pay the damages in regard to the artists they ripped off for the last 60 years ?
evolution is very different from spoiling. some scripter instructed to put in totally incompliant stuff to a game just for the sake of game development and financial concerns does not count as evolution.
to buy from it ? and does the mp3 work in all devices ? whereas $0.99 is still a tad bit expensive, i might consider acquiring some niche songs from over there.
cuz he is falling apart piece by piece. nose is dropping somewhere, ear in another and so on. will one need to talk to individual pieces of michael jackson or the falling pieces have decided on a spokesperson/representative among themselves ?
That would be valid if, indeed, World of Warcraft was 5000 year old celtic mythology. one other thing i hate in second place is people using this crappy argument.
90% or more of what is in world of warcraft IS celtic mythology. just orcs, elven, dwarven, goblins, trolls are the races from that mythology, and im not even going into millions of items or settings pictured in the game can be traced back to celtic roots and then to medieval storytelling and then to early ad&d literature (lotr and similar) and then to today's ad&d. actually whatever is remotely based on today's ad&d is based on celtic mythology.
it is not perfectly valid in basing something heavily on some mythology and then shattering it with stupidalia that totally shakes that mythology in its roots. there has been nothing "honorable" or good or even acceptable in celtic mythology or medieval times or even early ad&d literature as to orcs, trolls, goblins or whatever.
all the shit that was invented was invented in between warcraft 2 and wow, which coincides with warcraft 3, you know, the game they decided to push in after deciding that they were not ready for wow yet. and no surprise, in that game they pushed all the needed shit for making the evil faction less evil, because else noone would play with it - during that time swg was suffering from very little playing imperial side, hampering gameplay, and they took their lesson from it. but, not surprisingly they just told some script writers to incorporate totally top down shit about humans being 'corrupt' and orcs 'honorable', and just like that 5000 year old mythology have gone to shambles, with just a lead developer's decision. soe tried to pull the same shit in swg, by purporting that "empire is not evil in fact", but lucas have showed them the stick, and they repented.
no sir. blizzard not only f*cked up whatever excitement warcraft 2 and its lore had up to that time, but also shattered 5000 year old mythology. it is a total joke.
the one thing i fed up in wow was that. tons of people who are badass wannabees that nullify 5000 year old celtic mythology, by attributing 'good' stuff to the badass races they wanted to play. just like darth maul/vader wannabees who got their butt blasted with obi wan cutting their badass icon to half in Episode III.
i first taken up a joy in setting up a good pvp char and beating the crap outta these wannabees in arenas and bgs (they HATE it when their arse is handed over to them and cant take it, screenful of/spit s start to fly by), but then it became mundane and i quit.
now same badass wannabeeness will be coming to a comic probably, considering how much blizzard favors the badass faction over the other.
well i have been thinking why such a thing wasnt undertaken somewhere. apparently it is being done now. DIRECT DEMOCRACY - the next step in human civilization's evolution, and the next function of internet.
im seeing many, even some dogged, zealotly conservative people taking up on some ideas.
aroberts you totally missed the point
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You can almost hear the sound of the vacuum created by bloggers thinking that their words matter when the people with control don't even know how to read the tubes. Lick a stamp or march- that's harder to ignore. its not about making the people with control hear it. they wouldnt "hear" you if you were to play a drum frantically in their front door yelling your petition, because they dont care.
its about making PEOPLE notice. because PEOPLE is the power.
remember that the fight for net neutrality was conducted that way, and billion buck worth megacorp lobbying was thwarted.
first, we need scheduleable TASKS, and we need them to be linkable with EMAILS and emails be THREADED, and also tasks linkable with events (meetings and whatnot) AND CONTACTS (emails and cards).
current thunderbird with lightning addon doesnt cut it unfortunately, it just can function as a "reminder" service, not a complete scheduler/planner/organizer/communication client.
On "(You have my permission to ignore anybody who talks about "the horrible DRM in Vista" as a raving loon.)".
good golly ! thank you for giving that permission, as the regulatory board of "talking about ups and downs of software committee".
but you gotta maybe give a heads up to the informations branch of your committee, since apparently they have been rather lax in informing you that the "horrible DRM in Vista" has been proved to suck up shitload of computer resources, numerous times to boot.
i dont know whomever modded you insightful but s/he shouldnt get ahold of those points again.
People are not utilizing their services to the fullest. Naturally, they are able to oversell their storage. As users utilize only percentages of that space you can go on allocating more to each user, because they will be only using a percentage of it anyway. Much common in the hosting world. but not advised.
no sir, no can do. a corporate giant's credibility depends on its behavior towards customers in all its branches. if i get screwed over by some corp in any of its services or products, i dont go idiotically buying another of their product. and im not even talking about the rootkit gig.
Thanks for your defense of my post and I'm sorry you got modded to troll:-( never mind that. im part of the collective that is slashdot and collective eventually straightens mistakes out. collective sometimes does mistakes too, at those times members of it needs to correct it. that was what i tried to do with that post.
there is no point in collecting taxes after world ends anyway. more profits to be reaped through nasdaq by tech sector's expansion.
that is. 2012. i wonder if house members know shit that we dont.
even if it has been as you said theres still a CONTINUITY concept. you can make 'changes' to a lore and twist it, but you cant overturn FUNDAMENTAL stuff amongst it. its not about color and such, its about coming up and saying "humans are actually not humans at all, humans are in fact holo-images projected by some alien civilization to fool just one actual human" in REAL world, in order to prepare some ground for some financial enterprise. its totally awkward.
there was > (greater sign) to the right of the congress. so congress greater than any office it said. therefore, even with low approval ratings, congress still is the representative of the people. just think about bush's approval ratings.
Excuse me but what kind of insolence is this ? doesnt congress represent american people ? what kind of charade is this.
ill pay $150 any time as damages. its more than what they deserve. but i ask, are they going to pay the damages in regard to the artists they ripped off for the last 60 years ?
who will hold the copyright when they are destroyed then
evolution is very different from spoiling. some scripter instructed to put in totally incompliant stuff to a game just for the sake of game development and financial concerns does not count as evolution.
to buy from it ? and does the mp3 work in all devices ? whereas $0.99 is still a tad bit expensive, i might consider acquiring some niche songs from over there.
whats wrong with hippie music, pal ?
cuz he is falling apart piece by piece. nose is dropping somewhere, ear in another and so on. will one need to talk to individual pieces of michael jackson or the falling pieces have decided on a spokesperson/representative among themselves ?
90% or more of what is in world of warcraft IS celtic mythology. just orcs, elven, dwarven, goblins, trolls are the races from that mythology, and im not even going into millions of items or settings pictured in the game can be traced back to celtic roots and then to medieval storytelling and then to early ad&d literature (lotr and similar) and then to today's ad&d. actually whatever is remotely based on today's ad&d is based on celtic mythology.
it is not perfectly valid in basing something heavily on some mythology and then shattering it with stupidalia that totally shakes that mythology in its roots. there has been nothing "honorable" or good or even acceptable in celtic mythology or medieval times or even early ad&d literature as to orcs, trolls, goblins or whatever.
all the shit that was invented was invented in between warcraft 2 and wow, which coincides with warcraft 3, you know, the game they decided to push in after deciding that they were not ready for wow yet. and no surprise, in that game they pushed all the needed shit for making the evil faction less evil, because else noone would play with it - during that time swg was suffering from very little playing imperial side, hampering gameplay, and they took their lesson from it. but, not surprisingly they just told some script writers to incorporate totally top down shit about humans being 'corrupt' and orcs 'honorable', and just like that 5000 year old mythology have gone to shambles, with just a lead developer's decision. soe tried to pull the same shit in swg, by purporting that "empire is not evil in fact", but lucas have showed them the stick, and they repented.
no sir. blizzard not only f*cked up whatever excitement warcraft 2 and its lore had up to that time, but also shattered 5000 year old mythology. it is a total joke.
the one thing i fed up in wow was that. tons of people who are badass wannabees that nullify 5000 year old celtic mythology, by attributing 'good' stuff to the badass races they wanted to play. just like darth maul/vader wannabees who got their butt blasted with obi wan cutting their badass icon to half in Episode III.
/spit s start to fly by), but then it became mundane and i quit.
i first taken up a joy in setting up a good pvp char and beating the crap outta these wannabees in arenas and bgs (they HATE it when their arse is handed over to them and cant take it, screenful of
now same badass wannabeeness will be coming to a comic probably, considering how much blizzard favors the badass faction over the other.
well i have been thinking why such a thing wasnt undertaken somewhere. apparently it is being done now. DIRECT DEMOCRACY - the next step in human civilization's evolution, and the next function of internet.
im seeing many, even some dogged, zealotly conservative people taking up on some ideas.
its about making PEOPLE notice. because PEOPLE is the power.
remember that the fight for net neutrality was conducted that way, and billion buck worth megacorp lobbying was thwarted.
That is so very "pirate" of you. "Piratisch" even. So did you use broadsides to make them surrender or did you board them ?
ok replacement.
first, we need scheduleable TASKS, and we need them to be linkable with EMAILS and emails be THREADED, and also tasks linkable with events (meetings and whatnot) AND CONTACTS (emails and cards).
current thunderbird with lightning addon doesnt cut it unfortunately, it just can function as a "reminder" service, not a complete scheduler/planner/organizer/communication client.
just try to utilize it as much as you can, and you'll learn what 'overselling' means and what are its consequences in the industry of hosting.
On "(You have my permission to ignore anybody who talks about "the horrible DRM in Vista" as a raving loon.)".
good golly ! thank you for giving that permission, as the regulatory board of "talking about ups and downs of software committee".
but you gotta maybe give a heads up to the informations branch of your committee, since apparently they have been rather lax in informing you that the "horrible DRM in Vista" has been proved to suck up shitload of computer resources, numerous times to boot.
i dont know whomever modded you insightful but s/he shouldnt get ahold of those points again.
People are not utilizing their services to the fullest. Naturally, they are able to oversell their storage. As users utilize only percentages of that space you can go on allocating more to each user, because they will be only using a percentage of it anyway. Much common in the hosting world. but not advised.
no sir, no can do. a corporate giant's credibility depends on its behavior towards customers in all its branches. if i get screwed over by some corp in any of its services or products, i dont go idiotically buying another of their product. and im not even talking about the rootkit gig.
linus
i mean the techies, it people, internet people, geeks and such.
we dont like lords ladies dukes majors generals.