im a long time gamer, since 1982 when i was just 7, and have been playing "heavy" games like rts, rpg and mmos for the duration, but even i am thinking of acquiring a wii just for chilling out factor.
first, the inital thing that screwed the Star wars atmosphere in game was that character development system. because every profession was allowed to take boxes from others by xp, unimaginable templates were possible. remember the stacking ? people stacked dodge with fencer templates and as a result axeman, pikeman, fencer and such were more powerful than those wielding blasters. many people quit in that era - because it totally looked like medieval wars than star wars.
they tried to balance it, but it was impossible. whenever they put some bonus in some tree and took away something from another, people invented other templates. hilarity ensued. so they turned to a level system.
level system is not the problem of the game. attidude of soe is.
they are trashing sw lore for cash. first, they tried to bring people from other ad&d games, and put AXEMAN, PIKEMAN, SWORDSMAN in STAR WARS and made them on par with those wielding blasters. then, they tried to put JAPANESE armor into the game, naming it RIS armor. then they have started a charade of game content that said "empire is not evil in fact, empire is just order blah blah" MANY people quit during that time. when lucas intervened and soe was forced to put "empire is evil" anectodes and missions all over the game 6-8 months later, it was too late. then they just closed down the japanese servers without warning because they were not making cash on them.
sony is a corporation which can sell their own mother for cash. i mean it. they screwed the game because of that, and nothing else. the ONLY non-screwed part of the game was the space, and it was done by a dev team which was kept totally separate from normal soe devs, and it was done with close interaction with sim community.
I find it fascinating that someone who's Slashdot ID is around a million is telling someone with just under 23k "how we like it here." Just some food for thought. and that just happened. when people ask, you answer them.
we like it here. you'll see if you make a MAJOR mistake there will be comments that says "please leave your geek membership card to reception on your way out".
It would be like Luke (all grown up) and obi wan (all young) against darth maul together. you know who darth maul is. i didnt even extend the courtesy of identifying them with vader or palpy.
PHP is the #1 web scripting language on the web, I think it's doing quite well, and we didn't fork anything, we added resources. What would you say about supporting PHP on FreeBSD or Mac or AIX or Solaris which is something we already do. Would that be OK?
any support for any platform that is reliable to do business with are ok with us. We are negative towards microsoft because we have many tales of screw-ups they did to whomever worked with them. you know, hosting is a field where reliability and trust reigns supreme.
There are many commercial companies who want to pay money to run Windows now. Your claim about market value is simply not accurate.
to the quite contrary your look on the matter is not accurate. we hosters already are familiar with this situation. we call it "ms corporate culture". small to med businesses who used ms products in office and so on for years, built their infrastructure and personnel over it naturally tend to put a microsoft box if they choose to maintain their low volume web server. or, they go seek people who would create their dynamic site in asp, which is just continuation of corporate culture.
not only these single entities (webservers put on microsoft stuff) do not constitute bulky business compared to 100-200 hosting clients filling out each server on linux hosting side, but they eventually do switch.
we also do web development (as a natural expansion) in addition to hosting, and almost every month we talk with 1-2 clients who are going to switch from microsoft based stuff to php. (our quote request volume is around 4 a day average) especially asp to php. and you naturally can conclude that when they do switch, they rarely run php sites on windows they go all the way. but that happens in shared hosting generally of course.
This is not justified claim. As Zend's goal is to grow PHP to the enterprise and as far as possible, I think it is rather up to Zend Management team to decide what our real niche is. You have just described what PHP's initial niche was. Zenders are important members of the core PHP community, but certainly not the majority.
By the way, your site Webgeekworld offers scripts for Java and ASP and.Net, all of which are outside the Shared Linux hosting marketing. Why don't you stick to your niche?
webgeekworld is a hobby project that i made over the weekends. its a script directory/community. if there was martian scripting on dark side of pluto, their category would be there too.
You are referring to the free-of-charge Zend Optimizer, not the Accelerator which has been part of Zend Platform for almost 3 years. And your information is not accurate, we often get requests from customers to speak to their large hosting companies to get Zend Optimizer installed.
there are VERY bad eggs among the bad eggs in hosting community. i can name names, but it would not be wise to do as such. you would be surprised what other troubles such big names may cause to their clients, and zend optimizer installation would be trivial compared to them.
Hello? We're a commercial company! If we don't sell my wife and 2 little daughters starve. You can call that narrow sighted if you like. I call it economically responsible.
we are your people. in 5 or so years we have come from being a curious webnerds' pastime to providing majority of shared hosting on the web. just like oscommerce has become something of a field in itself despite starting from a single script. stick with us. we are your niche. if you back us as you did, things will be going far from this point.
I can say with more certainty and numbers than you'll ever have that it definitely is *not* the default thing in the industry. And again, you're referring to free Optimizers/Decoders which are not the same as commercial or free Opcode Caches (= Accelerators).
sad to hear yet im still on the opposite side of this subject. free optimizers do c
PHP's great advantage (other than time to market) is it's multi-platform. All Zend server products do already work best on Linux, the work with Microsoft is to bring it up to par as much as possible in terms of performance and reliability. What's the big problem with that? Linux hosting is cheaper anyway, so you have an edge. had you spent those resources on bettering php on linux, it would be better even further, which is almost all of us small to medium (and many big ones too) are using. instead you are forking your effort to something which has no market value as of now, and wont probably have one even if you put great resources in it in the near future. in a way you are rather neglecting your real niche. which is bad.
Seeing as most of the small to medium shared hosting providers don't pay a dime to Zend, nor does Zend have a commercial offering for them at the moment (because you're probably getting your PHP from Plesk, cPanel or Ensim and running it in CGI mode for security reasons), it's not like there's much wrath to fear (or economic fallout). Shared hosting companies owe as much to Zend as the other way around, so lets not pretend anyone is doing anybody any favors. thats narrow sighted thinking.
there are almost no boxes having linux and php and not having zend accelerator. you would notice that for many php products zend accelerator is a recommendation, and for some it is a requirement. which immediately means that zend is a major name and go to place for php developers of any kind, who do major business in the open source market, and especially ecommerce market with oscommerce, creloaded, and others. naturally you would be able to easily conclude that whenever these people need any solution in regard to php (zend ide, for dev environment for example, zend encoder for example, for protecting source code in closed source commercial projects) its zend they are bringing their business to. because zend is the name.
it is some reputation like ibm has in business matters in computing world. that kind of authority and recognition is something that no company that has been just founded a few years ago can buy with any amount of money. that IS zend's power.
Shared hosting = many sites on 1 server (there'd better be, otherwise you'll be going out of business next month charging $5 a month for a server). As there are about 30 million PHP sites out there, and most shared hosting companies have many customers per server, and several servers, we're probably talking a few thousand companies, dozens of thousands at most, certainly not the tens of millions of companies you estimate. there are 40 million web hosts around the internet as of now. that includes big boys like liquidweb, dreamhost and such, who maintain many boxes in datacenters or run their own farms, also resellers which sport just a few dozen accounts.
yet, almost all of those web hosts are on lamp boxes, and many with zend naturally. you are mistaking that people are using zend products on boxes that serve php pages. no such distinction exist. companies get lamp boxes by default, and serve all accounts from there, plain html or php. its the customary practice. i can say that lamp box with some kind of accelerator (zend or ioncube) is the default thing in the industry. i should note that oses like redhat 3 and above have ready scripts to install zend with just typing installzendopt, which should further tell the importance and reach of zend through this sector.
therefore you should never leave out your niche and go flirt with some company that has harmed whichever it flirted with, always having a hidden agenda.
if they are not spotted while surveying a crowd of protesters in a busy city, you can use them for real spying. if they are, and they have been too, you need to develop them further.
laws that are communally agreed upon and makes the world of internet email turn around. if people start going haywire on them, imagine the resulting mess.
no surprise, violation comes from microsoft. they dont hesitate to violate laws in any country they do business in, why should they hold back from rfc ?
about email deliveries and tried to force providers to go enroll in their paid whitelist scheme.
what happened ?
many providers, including hosting providers have started to refuse hotmail addresses being used for account signups, and warned customers that they should get an email from another provider to sign up with.
go figure what effect did this have. a hint - hotmail dropped the whitelist crap shortly thereafter.
Ms provided much more crap through hotmail to service provider admins in the past, this one even pales in importance. There was one time that they were putting legitimate emails in junk folder without telling anyone and causing many clients to go yelling at the providers.
basically what they did is to take a 10 year old technology to run cgi scripts faster, and integrate it to IIs.
cgi scripts are behind the web page you are seeing as of now, running the go-between between the database and your interface, and processing your inputs and database info at the same time. so its something major.
but as said what they did is 10 years old, nobody needs or uses it anymore. so its rather "gook"
since the most common PHP setup effectively disables user-based access control and lets any PHP script anywhere on the server access any data created by any other PHP script anywhere on the server. then s/he shouldnt be messing with php or apache or anything web related at all. it is a simple mod in apache that you need to activate in order to prevent that. it allows you to do that yourself so that you can use php in any situation - after all you may need to use it in an intranet with a box that has a software needing to modify any and all files in it, including os files. like cpanel development.
when they notice that the millions of (around 40 million) small to medium web hosting providers will be rather irritated that they are making love to microsoft than supporting their products on the linux/apache/mysql/php hosting scene. that scene is what made zend what it is, and boy i wouldnt ever dream of going at odds with it if i was any executive at zend.
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its the fact that you NEED permission from some agency that is NOT flight & aviation related to make that flight.
well, we are labeling the "geek" difference that is differentiating us from others then.
im a long time gamer, since 1982 when i was just 7, and have been playing "heavy" games like rts, rpg and mmos for the duration, but even i am thinking of acquiring a wii just for chilling out factor.
first, the inital thing that screwed the Star wars atmosphere in game was that character development system. because every profession was allowed to take boxes from others by xp, unimaginable templates were possible. remember the stacking ? people stacked dodge with fencer templates and as a result axeman, pikeman, fencer and such were more powerful than those wielding blasters. many people quit in that era - because it totally looked like medieval wars than star wars.
they tried to balance it, but it was impossible. whenever they put some bonus in some tree and took away something from another, people invented other templates. hilarity ensued. so they turned to a level system.
level system is not the problem of the game. attidude of soe is.
they are trashing sw lore for cash. first, they tried to bring people from other ad&d games, and put AXEMAN, PIKEMAN, SWORDSMAN in STAR WARS and made them on par with those wielding blasters. then, they tried to put JAPANESE armor into the game, naming it RIS armor. then they have started a charade of game content that said "empire is not evil in fact, empire is just order blah blah" MANY people quit during that time. when lucas intervened and soe was forced to put "empire is evil" anectodes and missions all over the game 6-8 months later, it was too late. then they just closed down the japanese servers without warning because they were not making cash on them.
sony is a corporation which can sell their own mother for cash. i mean it. they screwed the game because of that, and nothing else. the ONLY non-screwed part of the game was the space, and it was done by a dev team which was kept totally separate from normal soe devs, and it was done with close interaction with sim community.
well, divisions do exist whether one accepts the fact or not.
we like it here. you'll see if you make a MAJOR mistake there will be comments that says "please leave your geek membership card to reception on your way out".
high school is dead. this is internet.
and why is that ?
well, its possible that with balance fixes and introduction of content and gameplay styles they can get the game going.
"you must be new here" ...
I want the geek card of whomever guy/gal modded parent troll revoked.
if you are not able to discern positive stuff from troll, you shouldnt be usin mod points.
of course not. quit it around late 2004. account still stays though, with the hope that lucas might fire soe and hire some other dev house.
It would be like Luke (all grown up) and obi wan (all young) against darth maul together. you know who darth maul is. i didnt even extend the courtesy of identifying them with vader or palpy.
PHP is the #1 web scripting language on the web, I think it's doing quite well, and we didn't fork anything, we added resources. What would you say about supporting PHP on FreeBSD or Mac or AIX or Solaris which is something we already do. Would that be OK?
any support for any platform that is reliable to do business with are ok with us. We are negative towards microsoft because we have many tales of screw-ups they did to whomever worked with them. you know, hosting is a field where reliability and trust reigns supreme.
There are many commercial companies who want to pay money to run Windows now. Your claim about market value is simply not accurate.
to the quite contrary your look on the matter is not accurate. we hosters already are familiar with this situation. we call it "ms corporate culture". small to med businesses who used ms products in office and so on for years, built their infrastructure and personnel over it naturally tend to put a microsoft box if they choose to maintain their low volume web server. or, they go seek people who would create their dynamic site in asp, which is just continuation of corporate culture.
not only these single entities (webservers put on microsoft stuff) do not constitute bulky business compared to 100-200 hosting clients filling out each server on linux hosting side, but they eventually do switch.
we also do web development (as a natural expansion) in addition to hosting, and almost every month we talk with 1-2 clients who are going to switch from microsoft based stuff to php. (our quote request volume is around 4 a day average) especially asp to php. and you naturally can conclude that when they do switch, they rarely run php sites on windows they go all the way. but that happens in shared hosting generally of course.
This is not justified claim. As Zend's goal is to grow PHP to the enterprise and as far as possible, I think it is rather up to Zend Management team to decide what our real niche is. You have just described what PHP's initial niche was. Zenders are important members of the core PHP community, but certainly not the majority. By the way, your site Webgeekworld offers scripts for Java and ASP and .Net, all of which are outside the Shared Linux hosting marketing. Why don't you stick to your niche?
webgeekworld is a hobby project that i made over the weekends. its a script directory/community. if there was martian scripting on dark side of pluto, their category would be there too.
You are referring to the free-of-charge Zend Optimizer, not the Accelerator which has been part of Zend Platform for almost 3 years. And your information is not accurate, we often get requests from customers to speak to their large hosting companies to get Zend Optimizer installed.
there are VERY bad eggs among the bad eggs in hosting community. i can name names, but it would not be wise to do as such. you would be surprised what other troubles such big names may cause to their clients, and zend optimizer installation would be trivial compared to them.
Hello? We're a commercial company! If we don't sell my wife and 2 little daughters starve. You can call that narrow sighted if you like. I call it economically responsible.
we are your people. in 5 or so years we have come from being a curious webnerds' pastime to providing majority of shared hosting on the web. just like oscommerce has become something of a field in itself despite starting from a single script. stick with us. we are your niche. if you back us as you did, things will be going far from this point.
I can say with more certainty and numbers than you'll ever have that it definitely is *not* the default thing in the industry. And again, you're referring to free Optimizers/Decoders which are not the same as commercial or free Opcode Caches (= Accelerators).
sad to hear yet im still on the opposite side of this subject. free optimizers do c
swger, kotor player, bioware admirer. im not pleased. and im feeling less positive towards ea as of now.
Running on Red Hat Enterprise 4, i was damn happy about it. Im now more happy with what i use because Red Hat is showing much integrity.
not yer average mom, its your geeky daughter avenging techie mom, and, top level cios, ceos, whatnots to boot !
watch out, she's gonna get you. she's gonna get you good !
be you may in open source, be you may in microsoft, be you may a long hair or a fanboi !!
she's gonna get you, and she's gonna get you good !!
for here comes, THE MOM !!!!
there are almost no boxes having linux and php and not having zend accelerator. you would notice that for many php products zend accelerator is a recommendation, and for some it is a requirement. which immediately means that zend is a major name and go to place for php developers of any kind, who do major business in the open source market, and especially ecommerce market with oscommerce, creloaded, and others. naturally you would be able to easily conclude that whenever these people need any solution in regard to php (zend ide, for dev environment for example, zend encoder for example, for protecting source code in closed source commercial projects) its zend they are bringing their business to. because zend is the name.
it is some reputation like ibm has in business matters in computing world. that kind of authority and recognition is something that no company that has been just founded a few years ago can buy with any amount of money. that IS zend's power.
Shared hosting = many sites on 1 server (there'd better be, otherwise you'll be going out of business next month charging $5 a month for a server). As there are about 30 million PHP sites out there, and most shared hosting companies have many customers per server, and several servers, we're probably talking a few thousand companies, dozens of thousands at most, certainly not the tens of millions of companies you estimate. there are 40 million web hosts around the internet as of now. that includes big boys like liquidweb, dreamhost and such, who maintain many boxes in datacenters or run their own farms, also resellers which sport just a few dozen accounts.
yet, almost all of those web hosts are on lamp boxes, and many with zend naturally. you are mistaking that people are using zend products on boxes that serve php pages. no such distinction exist. companies get lamp boxes by default, and serve all accounts from there, plain html or php. its the customary practice. i can say that lamp box with some kind of accelerator (zend or ioncube) is the default thing in the industry. i should note that oses like redhat 3 and above have ready scripts to install zend with just typing installzendopt, which should further tell the importance and reach of zend through this sector.
therefore you should never leave out your niche and go flirt with some company that has harmed whichever it flirted with, always having a hidden agenda.
if they are not spotted while surveying a crowd of protesters in a busy city, you can use them for real spying. if they are, and they have been too, you need to develop them further.
laws that are communally agreed upon and makes the world of internet email turn around. if people start going haywire on them, imagine the resulting mess.
no surprise, violation comes from microsoft. they dont hesitate to violate laws in any country they do business in, why should they hold back from rfc ?
about email deliveries and tried to force providers to go enroll in their paid whitelist scheme.
what happened ?
many providers, including hosting providers have started to refuse hotmail addresses being used for account signups, and warned customers that they should get an email from another provider to sign up with.
go figure what effect did this have. a hint - hotmail dropped the whitelist crap shortly thereafter.
Ms provided much more crap through hotmail to service provider admins in the past, this one even pales in importance. There was one time that they were putting legitimate emails in junk folder without telling anyone and causing many clients to go yelling at the providers.
basically what they did is to take a 10 year old technology to run cgi scripts faster, and integrate it to IIs.
cgi scripts are behind the web page you are seeing as of now, running the go-between between the database and your interface, and processing your inputs and database info at the same time. so its something major.
but as said what they did is 10 years old, nobody needs or uses it anymore. so its rather "gook"
when they notice that the millions of (around 40 million) small to medium web hosting providers will be rather irritated that they are making love to microsoft than supporting their products on the linux/apache/mysql/php hosting scene. that scene is what made zend what it is, and boy i wouldnt ever dream of going at odds with it if i was any executive at zend.