It's even easier to act ballsy when nobody is at risk. Unless a copyright holder sends him a proper Cease and Desist letter and he fails to comply, he's not "at risk" in the slightest. He flinched at a shadow.
Sure, he's got no real authority. He would be if he was a copyright holder. But these "nobodies" are perfectly capable of having an effect by alerting the EFF, or the BSA. I'm pretty sure the EFF would gladly get into this if there was a case.
Then we do agree, I just forgot to add that bit into the reply, and we're wording it slightly differently because of our slightly different stances.
Just as a budding GNAA troll must go on a spirit quest for the sacred frosty piss, so the would-be GNU/Zealot must successfully wave his finger via email at least once. I can just imagine the little grasshopper sat in #GNU on Freenode, jacking off to the praise he received for this stunt.
If you don't want the "licensing crap", I'd recommend switching to BSD.
I've considered doing just this a few times. Every time I've tried, the various BSD install CDs have all failed hilariously in their attempts to boot my machine.
I've read a lot of Stallman's stuff. I tend to disagree with him a lot. But that's why I didn't say "the intention of the GPL", but instead opted to mimic the email writer's choice of "open source spirit".
But anyway, my main point was the last bit (the "non-basement-dwelling" bit), that rules are ultimately defined by their enforcement, not by badly written emails sent by concerned nobodies.
While I think the grandparent post is completely retarded for its overreactive elitism, you're actually a little wrong. Linux is very developer-centric, especially the less glamorous stuff like the kernel.
I only say "a little wrong" because it's an attitude that's changing fast. All the desktop-type projects are bringing a bit of balance to the issue. Sure, they're probably still itches getting scratched, but they get people really focusing on user experience and stuff like that. And we have stuff like autopackage trying to fix old issues like the lack of Windows-style software installation. And then there's Linspire/Ubuntu/Suse/Mandriva, making huge strides, and focusing very heavily on end users.
So it's really easy to see where you would get the idea that Linux is not about the developers, since it's what you see on the surface. But underneath, the guys fixing buffer overflows in sendmail in their free time care more about being allowed to do whatever they want than about users being able to get at their mail easily. And that's the main reason Linux works as well as it does, too (both as an OS and as a "movement). It'd make a great slogan:
Linux: Coded with wuv
I tend to agree with phrases like "So some people won't use it. Big deal.", as in the sibling post, but they sound kind of condescending without their proper context.
Quite an agressive reply to a post that didn't even touch on convenience in the slightest. And wouldn't it be great if there was some symbol we could put on the end of phrases to indicate if they were questions. But if there was, would we use it.
And no need to sign your name at the bottom - you're logged in. I'll leave it there as more than three smartass replies may cause you to ejaculate violently.
Sounds like the sort of guy who sends a letter to have the local skatepark closed down when he notices that its disabled access is lacking.
The most infuriating thing is how he goes for the puppy angle with this bullshit:
this distribution goes against the open source spirit of linux
The 'open source spirit of Linux' is that Open Source is supposed to enable people to stop worrying about this licensing crap. If nVidia and ATI aren't complaining, there shouldn't be an issue on our side.
And for the most part there isn't. Which is why it's even more sad that he's actually caving to this:
As such, the Live CD has been put on hold, until I can sort this out. If I cannot sort this out I will be forced to cease work on the Xgl Live CD.
My overall opinion is that this Koraraa guy ought to grow a pair and wait to see what the non-basement-dwelling grownups have to say about his distro's licensing.
Ah, once again someone posting anonymously because they think they sound too awesome to dare link themself to their words.
Well hurray for you for pointing out that "there is technology". The telescreen is in fact the reference here, some tech thing that lets the government look into peoples' homes or something. I get the reference, okay?
The problem is that the stupid summary has it backwards. This scheme is nearly the opposite of that. It's video footage from outside coming in to peoples' homes.
I was trying to use this to make a more general point about crappy "tech = 1984" linkage, but you, the true ignorant party, missed this completely.
I'm referring of course to the stupid 1984 references. From wikipedia:
The world of Nineteen Eighty-Four is a political, not a technological, dystopia. The technological level of the society in the novel is mostly crude and less advanced than in the real 1980s.
I haven't read it myself, but in my case all that this means is that I don't refer to it at every turn. Sadly, many people do resort to this trick in an attempt to sound clever, and they're pulling it off spectacularly badly.
I can imagine this information sharing being (ab)used as an excuse to 'expedite' European integration. After all, unless we can all spy on each other, the terrorists win, right?
Well hurray for you and your interesting point. But unless you're willing to put it as reply to one of the people bitching about DNA in general, you're offtopic. If you press Reply and create a new thread, it is assumed that you're talking about the story. This story is not about DNA privacy, so please have the courage to engage with the people you disagree with rather than replying indirectly like this.
Wow. Not only would that be more efficient, it'd also be more accurate. You could describe plenty of stuff to people and they'd say it bothered them, once they remembered it. Your way is much nicer, as it only checks for people already bothered.
Ah, I think this works out nicely. Distrowatch is getting lots of Brazilians checking out Kurumin, but obviously not all of those people are going to like a live cd so much that they install it to their hard drive and use it from day to day. Since less people are running at as their day to day OS, it scores lower in that stat than it does in general interest.
I can imagine that vivaolinux members are slightly more technical than average too, but even with all that in mind it's kind of surprising to see Slackware at the top.
Thanks for that Distrowatch link by the way. And here I thought I'd already seen all their little statistics toys!
I would have gone with 'technology' and 'crazy rambling' myself. See, we're not socialist, we're just really, really scared of lots of people, companies and organizations who happen to be right-wingers.
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It's even easier to act ballsy when nobody is at risk. Unless a copyright holder sends him a proper Cease and Desist letter and he fails to comply, he's not "at risk" in the slightest. He flinched at a shadow.
Just as a budding GNAA troll must go on a spirit quest for the sacred frosty piss, so the would-be GNU/Zealot must successfully wave his finger via email at least once. I can just imagine the little grasshopper sat in #GNU on Freenode, jacking off to the praise he received for this stunt.
I've read a lot of Stallman's stuff. I tend to disagree with him a lot. But that's why I didn't say "the intention of the GPL", but instead opted to mimic the email writer's choice of "open source spirit".
But anyway, my main point was the last bit (the "non-basement-dwelling" bit), that rules are ultimately defined by their enforcement, not by badly written emails sent by concerned nobodies.
I only say "a little wrong" because it's an attitude that's changing fast. All the desktop-type projects are bringing a bit of balance to the issue. Sure, they're probably still itches getting scratched, but they get people really focusing on user experience and stuff like that. And we have stuff like autopackage trying to fix old issues like the lack of Windows-style software installation. And then there's Linspire/Ubuntu/Suse/Mandriva, making huge strides, and focusing very heavily on end users.
So it's really easy to see where you would get the idea that Linux is not about the developers, since it's what you see on the surface. But underneath, the guys fixing buffer overflows in sendmail in their free time care more about being allowed to do whatever they want than about users being able to get at their mail easily. And that's the main reason Linux works as well as it does, too (both as an OS and as a "movement). It'd make a great slogan:
I tend to agree with phrases like "So some people won't use it. Big deal.", as in the sibling post, but they sound kind of condescending without their proper context.
And no need to sign your name at the bottom - you're logged in. I'll leave it there as more than three smartass replies may cause you to ejaculate violently.
The most infuriating thing is how he goes for the puppy angle with this bullshit:
The 'open source spirit of Linux' is that Open Source is supposed to enable people to stop worrying about this licensing crap. If nVidia and ATI aren't complaining, there shouldn't be an issue on our side.And for the most part there isn't. Which is why it's even more sad that he's actually caving to this:
My overall opinion is that this Koraraa guy ought to grow a pair and wait to see what the non-basement-dwelling grownups have to say about his distro's licensing.Well hurray for you for pointing out that "there is technology". The telescreen is in fact the reference here, some tech thing that lets the government look into peoples' homes or something. I get the reference, okay?
The problem is that the stupid summary has it backwards. This scheme is nearly the opposite of that. It's video footage from outside coming in to peoples' homes.
I was trying to use this to make a more general point about crappy "tech = 1984" linkage, but you, the true ignorant party, missed this completely.
I haven't read it myself, but in my case all that this means is that I don't refer to it at every turn. Sadly, many people do resort to this trick in an attempt to sound clever, and they're pulling it off spectacularly badly.
I can imagine this information sharing being (ab)used as an excuse to 'expedite' European integration. After all, unless we can all spy on each other, the terrorists win, right?
It's always been this way.
How dare you insult the sacred Slashdot tradition of tacking a completely fucking retarded question onto the end of the summary?
Well hurray for you and your interesting point. But unless you're willing to put it as reply to one of the people bitching about DNA in general, you're offtopic. If you press Reply and create a new thread, it is assumed that you're talking about the story. This story is not about DNA privacy, so please have the courage to engage with the people you disagree with rather than replying indirectly like this.
A trifecta? You can do that?
The guy from Back to the Future without a doubt. They can safely archive this discussion right now, I think.
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Wow. Not only would that be more efficient, it'd also be more accurate. You could describe plenty of stuff to people and they'd say it bothered them, once they remembered it. Your way is much nicer, as it only checks for people already bothered.
I can imagine that vivaolinux members are slightly more technical than average too, but even with all that in mind it's kind of surprising to see Slackware at the top.
Thanks for that Distrowatch link by the way. And here I thought I'd already seen all their little statistics toys!
And while you're answering that, I want to know why Slackware is popular in Brazil.
As much as I always advocate vigilantism and gratuitous violence and torture, this is a case of a dickhead script kiddie, not a spammer.
I would have gone with 'technology' and 'crazy rambling' myself. See, we're not socialist, we're just really, really scared of lots of people, companies and organizations who happen to be right-wingers.