well lets stop this thread indeed. You are not in Osetia and seems never got any call from there. Want you believe me or not - I don't really care now. So - bye!
My facts are based on calls from _real_ people living in Osetia. Some of them I even know (indirectly thru my pets)! So you're saying "The difference is, though, that your media is controlled by the government, and the government of your country has a history of altering any inconvenient truth to a justification for their actions, regardless of legality and morality." - maybe you want to say that _your_ (or even any) more or less serious information sources are _independent_? They never was independent in any country! "Sounds to me like all you're doing is eating a different brand of propaganda." As I said the sentence "We didn't start this war" is based on cell-calls from real people! So decide yourself - what is true, what is not - me personally don't need more provements then I already have.
How can I prove anything to you? You only believe in what you want to. And you claiming _your_ point is right meanwhile mine - not! Maybe you live near Osetia so you are watching the facts in real? Can we stop this trolling please? My facts are from people who live there and who saw this. I'm not trying to say - hey, it's official facts, I'm just saying the words of people from there. So please stop trolling and claiming the things you are know nothing about! So I will not reply anything else. If you're interested in threading - go, do it yourself, sorry.
Of course you are right... who doubts? I wish if only you could take a look on Osetian people eyes... I don't want to bring more rudness there. You may think as you want - it's your opinion. But I beg you at least try to think about facts sometimes.
you decide... it doesn't change the things a lot. All I said is that our peacekeeper was under fire first by georgian military. There was a cell-call recently from Tskhinvaly - there are a lot of people under ruins - they just can't get out 'cause of fire... so you still want to talk about propaganda? lets stop, please! i'm not biased to continue...
i'm not even wondered by - you always believe in _what_ you want to believe! Nothing else. I saw British report about Russian violence in Georgia - and it's full of sh*t. And it's not surprice in case of Russian-British problems (remember Litvinenco). Anyway, you may take a look from another point of view http://top.rbc.ru/photoreport/09/08/2008/217994.shtml
Please, don't get me wrong - any more or less normal government will be protecting their civilians (and of course it has to). But there is a confrontation I would say btw Amecrica and Russia. It's not started today, not yesterday - do you remember Karibian Crisis? Of course I really hate _any_ violence - but in case of Georgia we just have no choise except to protect our people. Maybe you should take a look on photos fron Iraque to realise something first! So any information could be present in two views but it doesn't make Osetia live easier. And as I saw many-many georgian civilians just hate this war too - but georgian government it seems to be in madness and doesn't think about their own people... unfortunelly... i really hope this situation (war) will be stopped soon and _normal_ negotiations being.
Do you really think like this? 2000 of innocent people have been killed by Georgia soldiers...
And you still claim that it's Russian fault...
Oh my... we just can't leave Osetia area - there are Russian people who are under Georgia fire.
I just wonder how west journalists 'play' with words to claim Russian guilty. Guys quite frankly - stop listen American propaganda and take a look on _real_ things. We didn't start the war, we didn't want it, we just can't allow to kill Russian people. And if that happen we have to protect our people in other part of the world - we will do without any doubts!!!
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well lets stop this thread indeed. You are not in Osetia and seems never got any call from there. Want you believe me or not - I don't really care now. So - bye!
My facts are based on calls from _real_ people living in Osetia. Some of them I even know (indirectly thru my pets)! So you're saying "The difference is, though, that your media is controlled by the government, and the government of your country has a history of altering any inconvenient truth to a justification for their actions, regardless of legality and morality." - maybe you want to say that _your_ (or even any) more or less serious information sources are _independent_? They never was independent in any country! "Sounds to me like all you're doing is eating a different brand of propaganda." As I said the sentence "We didn't start this war" is based on cell-calls from real people! So decide yourself - what is true, what is not - me personally don't need more provements then I already have.
How can I prove anything to you? You only believe in what you want to. And you claiming _your_ point is right meanwhile mine - not! Maybe you live near Osetia so you are watching the facts in real? Can we stop this trolling please? My facts are from people who live there and who saw this. I'm not trying to say - hey, it's official facts, I'm just saying the words of people from there. So please stop trolling and claiming the things you are know nothing about! So I will not reply anything else. If you're interested in threading - go, do it yourself, sorry.
Of course you are right... who doubts? I wish if only you could take a look on Osetian people eyes... I don't want to bring more rudness there. You may think as you want - it's your opinion. But I beg you at least try to think about facts sometimes.
you decide... it doesn't change the things a lot. All I said is that our peacekeeper was under fire first by georgian military. There was a cell-call recently from Tskhinvaly - there are a lot of people under ruins - they just can't get out 'cause of fire... so you still want to talk about propaganda? lets stop, please! i'm not biased to continue...
i'm not even wondered by - you always believe in _what_ you want to believe! Nothing else. I saw British report about Russian violence in Georgia - and it's full of sh*t. And it's not surprice in case of Russian-British problems (remember Litvinenco). Anyway, you may take a look from another point of view http://top.rbc.ru/photoreport/09/08/2008/217994.shtml Please, don't get me wrong - any more or less normal government will be protecting their civilians (and of course it has to). But there is a confrontation I would say btw Amecrica and Russia. It's not started today, not yesterday - do you remember Karibian Crisis? Of course I really hate _any_ violence - but in case of Georgia we just have no choise except to protect our people. Maybe you should take a look on photos fron Iraque to realise something first! So any information could be present in two views but it doesn't make Osetia live easier. And as I saw many-many georgian civilians just hate this war too - but georgian government it seems to be in madness and doesn't think about their own people... unfortunelly... i really hope this situation (war) will be stopped soon and _normal_ negotiations being.
If we have to - we will obviously send! I just wonder - destroying Iraque was a _normal_ behaviour of USA. You're idiot... sorry for this word :(
Do you really think like this? 2000 of innocent people have been killed by Georgia soldiers... And you still claim that it's Russian fault... Oh my... we just can't leave Osetia area - there are Russian people who are under Georgia fire. I just wonder how west journalists 'play' with words to claim Russian guilty. Guys quite frankly - stop listen American propaganda and take a look on _real_ things. We didn't start the war, we didn't want it, we just can't allow to kill Russian people. And if that happen we have to protect our people in other part of the world - we will do without any doubts!!!