The same goes for restraining orders. All you have to do is make an accusation and you can get a temporary one served. That can and does ruin reputations. I understand from a Judge's point of view. He has to protect those who might actually be harmed by someone. But if you read restraining order ordinances you can be accused for a pattern of behavior. That pattern consists of 2 instances or more. Not 5 not 10, but two.
If the restraining order request is dropped you still have to go to court over it and you probably have to deal with the total lack of knowledge about the issue by the Judge while they pet and fawn the person making the claim. If it turns out the person lied to get the restraining order there's very little you can do in return. In most cases when the person files the request for a restraining order the person is sent back by the court clerk indicating that more things need to be added in order to show it. The more vague they are in their claims the easier it is to get out of it if the order is dropped.
Most men falsely accused will be adults and let it go, but they don't understand that it is now on their record. The humuliation factor is pretty high to. Men tend to feel humiliated at being accused. Two incidents is nothing.
A restraining order is meant to help protect people from those that would do them harm, and it is supposed to be actual and substantial, yet it is so easily abused because claims resulting in a restraining order can be so subjective.
The bottom line is this; claims can be more harmful than the actual act itself. You can harm someone's life by making such claims. There are people that get off on it and there are people that are totally confused about life that will pursue this sort of thing on a whim because they are either evil or abusive themselves or are confused as to the purpose behind the laws.
It's not fair and someone always gets hurt. Hurd is hurting because of this. His reputation has been harmed. His career is in jeopardy. His acting replacement has rubbed his nose in it by making unsubstantiated probably inflated or made up claims about his vision vs. HPs.
What was he accused of? And don't say sexual harassment. That doesn't fly. He had to actually commit an act that is in violation of laws, and/or company policy.
I've seen this happen many times in business where someone is accused and the accusation is all that is needed, even if the incident is a minor infraction.
Hurd wasn't let go for a sexual harassment claim. He wasn't let go for any real legal issue with padding the expense account for private use. He wasn't let go for his non-relationship "wish he had relationship". Even the gal making the claim seemed downright surprised that he was let go.
My guess is that after some time in a growing relationship he touched her in a seemingly appropriate inappropriate manner (based on her perspective) probably during a business dinner. He was probably using his position at HP in order to get closer to her by having her out on various dinners at very expensive places.
What happens in the field stays in the field. That's an old saying. I pretty much think that it was disregarded.
HP likely fired him because of some internal conflict. The woman taking over made this out as if there was this massive rile ongoing between him and the vision of HP. She publicly made statements about him that are supposed to be kept internal for privacy reasons. If Hurd were to sue he'd win because they are legally bound to keep private the reasons for his seperation until something is proven. On their SEC filings they can claim various things that would still be onpoint but not too revealing and they'd remain legal.
I agree with Ellison. This was a huge fuck up. Considering these types of things happen all the time, considering how much money Hurd makes by leaving, and considering he covered himself well by gaining support of others and dealing with this woman in a prompt manner, and offering to pay back any suspect expenses, he should go on to a full career still, with $20 million in the bank.
I personally think something was happening internally and ever since the reporter spy scandal they've had various witch hunts. Who knows how much more disruptive those hunts have been to their success over the past year.
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There's no more fragmentation in the Android space than there is in the iPhone space. Rather one could argue that given time fragmentation will drop in all platforms as development of features additions slow.
As people upgrade over the next two years to new versions of the OS, and due to the fact that new feature additions can't continue infinitely, fragmentation declines. In new OSes such as Microsofts Win mobile 7 you will see fragmentation live longer because it's a new OS.
The iPhone OS 4 won't run on the two earliest versions of the iPhone. That's 50% of their models. Because of Apple's designs and policies iOS4 won't ever work on those. Android phones, even some of the earliest models, can be modded to run the latest OS. In Apple and Android's case the amount of fragmentation will diminish as those customers upgrade to newer models.
Fragmentation is only an issue if you plan to write for those "few" versions of the phones that remain from the original release. Meaning you won't really have to worry about Android fragmentation. You should worry about iPhone. Win Mobile 7 fragmentation will be ongoing longer because it is too new, and it's unreleased--we know how Microsoft handles outdated products.
There's no evidence of that slowdown in sales due to the iPhone 4 leak. Can you provide the numbers from Apple or any other source that would support that? Let's try to stick to the facts that can be proven.
It does include iPhone 4 sales, but not all of them. The Nielsen ratings represent a total of about 1.7 million of those iPhone 4 sales. The iPhone 4 shipped on June 24, right before the quarter ended. Its 1.7 million first-weekend sales are presumably included among the Nielsen numbers.
I'm shocked to hear that any Windows mobile phones are still being sold. Surly they jest.
The market isn't there for them and never will be. Most grandmothers and Timmy himself have never expressed a wish for an iPad. As they become more sophisticated users they shun short use devices. All of them. What you are claiming is a carrot and stick. You think they go after the carrot while I think they are after a device that grows with their knowledge.
The market you claim is actually a false reality. No grandmother knowingly accepts a cripped device because they think it is easier. What's happening is that the fluffing of the device in their minds gets them orgasmic about the potential of a touch device, not an iPad. The eroticism crafted into the marketing ends as grandma and Timmy begin to learn of the walled nature and of the lack of functionality.
Grandma and Timmy will resent the device after a while claiming it won't do what they want it to do and no amount of reality distortion will raise their libido again.
Actually I want a touch tablet to do exactly what my PC does except in a very portable format. I want all the multitasking, the full programs, programming control, everything.
I played Everquest when it first came out. It went strong for 5 years. It was setting the standards. When WoW came out that changed it. I moved over and played it for a year. I haven't played WoW since. My primary reason was that it attracted kiddies from Battle.net. These kiddies didn't understand what it took to be a serious gamer.
During the first 5 years, I played Everquest during most of my free time. I could always remark that playing the game kept me off the streets and saved me money because if I wasn't playing it I'd be out causing a ruckus or spending all my spare cash. Playing a MMORPG saved me money.
50% of the world's population may not have the ability to own an Apple device. But they do have the ability to own a tablet device. And 3 billion plus wasn't representing the number of people but the number of units (meaning one person might own 4 or 5 over the lifetime of that product). How many computers do you own or have owned?
There will be a wild potential for tablet's over time especially as the cost comes down. K-Mart is taking pre-order for their $160.00 Android tablet. The demand is so high they can't handle it and had to stop processing orders. $160.00 is far less than $550. The Android market place is 60,000+ apps. That's more than I'll use or even have the desire to sift through.
Of course Android. Android is going to put some serious shame in other mobile OSes. Even if Apple keeps building features first the competition will always be there to re-implement cheaper and faster.
Your skepticism is likely tied to a lack of in-depth knowledge of the competition.
HP has never been one that is good owning a technology and getting it adopted thus making them the leader. Windows won't be able to because they are a marketing driven company rather than a technology driven company. They also are not a consumer device company, they are more along the lines of enterprise. Google's Android is set to not only take the market, but set the standards, and to drive it home to the potential 3 billion plus market consumption over the life of the product.
The only thing innovative that I saw were the icons that show up when you zoom out. But that also leaves that space for advertising. I don't have a desire to look at it further. And, the lady giving the presentation was so boring and uninspiring.
It is such an achilles heal that it will come back and bite Apple real hard. It is the worm in Apple. All things considered those that don't care don't know. When the Android tablets come out en masse then the awareness will increase.
When people come into my store and the iPad is mentioned most people indicate that they think it is a good product, but when I mention it is a closed walled garden and the other restrictions most cease that opinion.
I do give them hope and indicate that it is a new market so they can expect good things from the Android tablets.
I think Apple's touch capabilities are quite a bit more advanced than what Microsoft incorporated into Windows to accommodate touch screens. You might want to look at how that works in order to understand how primitive those capabilities were.
What? Sell a possible 3 million copies of software for $2.00 to $30.00 (that's assuming everyone that owns one buys those products from Microsoft)?
Your statement required that it be addressed and clearly the answer indicates why Microsoft is not after Apple's market share. They are after the device developers. They want Win7 mobile on those tablet devices.
The world wide market is potentially 3 billion devices (maybe more over the life of the market). The 3.3 million iPads sold so far are less than 1/10th of 1% of that total potential. The Android tablets, when they come out, will consume most of that remaining potential (not immediately but over the long haul--that's a given). Microsoft is not going after Apple's share. They are going after Apple's business plan.
Pen Computing's offerings were a threat to Microsoft's core cash cow. Microsoft's philosophy back then was to kill anything that threatened the OS. Microsoft finagled their way into Pen's offices under the guise that they wanted to praise Pen if what they were creating was worthy. Pen, being flattered, allowed them to see the product. A few months later Microsoft announced Pen Windows. Everyone that was adopting Windows (the industry was headed that way en masse) directed their attention to Pen Windows. This told them that they shouldn't want to consider any alternatives when the pen concepts were being added to Windows itself. That began the downfall of Pen. It is the only reason Microsoft entered that market.
I think he was justly stating that the iPad is not a computer for anyone, not in the sense of a real computer. It's a gadget device for recreational use. He doesn't use a computer for that unless it's a recreational activity that tasks his abilities, such as a high end game.
I'm interested in a tablet PC but not Apple's version. I want control and the ability to do what I desire with it.
Ballmer has simply begun to understand that (as Gates said some time ago) computers are used primarily for consumption of information instead of the creation of it--which the iPad (or any tablet) is well suited to.
The tablet market is important and it does signify a change, but the tablet market is, at least to me, a recreational device. It never will perform the tasks that made the PC so successful. I'm not saying it's not a business device (it isn't) I'm saying it is not a device to be used for any significant purpose.
Recreational has its' place. Most uses are short use activites. Strain on the hand, arm, and shoulder prohibit it doing much more than being a music player, scrolling reader, simpleton gaming device.
Baller is spewing bullshit. He's after the Android tablet market share. He's pushing his people because he knows that the competitors to Apple's iPad haven't hit the market. If he's targeting Win7's tablet features, well, I don't think that any future success can be predicated on that. The last thing I want to see is a Win7 mobile OS on a tablet.
What he says about the count down timer was part of the news segment that I watched this past Sunday. They made note that the timers helped reduce the hazards.
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In every way. Bush and Cheney should have been tried as criminals.
The same goes for restraining orders. All you have to do is make an accusation and you can get a temporary one served. That can and does ruin reputations. I understand from a Judge's point of view. He has to protect those who might actually be harmed by someone. But if you read restraining order ordinances you can be accused for a pattern of behavior. That pattern consists of 2 instances or more. Not 5 not 10, but two.
If the restraining order request is dropped you still have to go to court over it and you probably have to deal with the total lack of knowledge about the issue by the Judge while they pet and fawn the person making the claim. If it turns out the person lied to get the restraining order there's very little you can do in return. In most cases when the person files the request for a restraining order the person is sent back by the court clerk indicating that more things need to be added in order to show it. The more vague they are in their claims the easier it is to get out of it if the order is dropped.
Most men falsely accused will be adults and let it go, but they don't understand that it is now on their record. The humuliation factor is pretty high to. Men tend to feel humiliated at being accused. Two incidents is nothing.
A restraining order is meant to help protect people from those that would do them harm, and it is supposed to be actual and substantial, yet it is so easily abused because claims resulting in a restraining order can be so subjective.
The bottom line is this; claims can be more harmful than the actual act itself. You can harm someone's life by making such claims. There are people that get off on it and there are people that are totally confused about life that will pursue this sort of thing on a whim because they are either evil or abusive themselves or are confused as to the purpose behind the laws.
It's not fair and someone always gets hurt. Hurd is hurting because of this. His reputation has been harmed. His career is in jeopardy. His acting replacement has rubbed his nose in it by making unsubstantiated probably inflated or made up claims about his vision vs. HPs.
What was he accused of? And don't say sexual harassment. That doesn't fly. He had to actually commit an act that is in violation of laws, and/or company policy.
I've seen this happen many times in business where someone is accused and the accusation is all that is needed, even if the incident is a minor infraction.
Hurd wasn't let go for a sexual harassment claim. He wasn't let go for any real legal issue with padding the expense account for private use. He wasn't let go for his non-relationship "wish he had relationship". Even the gal making the claim seemed downright surprised that he was let go.
My guess is that after some time in a growing relationship he touched her in a seemingly appropriate inappropriate manner (based on her perspective) probably during a business dinner. He was probably using his position at HP in order to get closer to her by having her out on various dinners at very expensive places.
What happens in the field stays in the field. That's an old saying. I pretty much think that it was disregarded.
HP likely fired him because of some internal conflict. The woman taking over made this out as if there was this massive rile ongoing between him and the vision of HP. She publicly made statements about him that are supposed to be kept internal for privacy reasons. If Hurd were to sue he'd win because they are legally bound to keep private the reasons for his seperation until something is proven. On their SEC filings they can claim various things that would still be onpoint but not too revealing and they'd remain legal.
I agree with Ellison. This was a huge fuck up. Considering these types of things happen all the time, considering how much money Hurd makes by leaving, and considering he covered himself well by gaining support of others and dealing with this woman in a prompt manner, and offering to pay back any suspect expenses, he should go on to a full career still, with $20 million in the bank.
I personally think something was happening internally and ever since the reporter spy scandal they've had various witch hunts. Who knows how much more disruptive those hunts have been to their success over the past year.
Bottom line for me was that it was far to slow.
There's no more fragmentation in the Android space than there is in the iPhone space. Rather one could argue that given time fragmentation will drop in all platforms as development of features additions slow.
As people upgrade over the next two years to new versions of the OS, and due to the fact that new feature additions can't continue infinitely, fragmentation declines. In new OSes such as Microsofts Win mobile 7 you will see fragmentation live longer because it's a new OS.
The iPhone OS 4 won't run on the two earliest versions of the iPhone. That's 50% of their models. Because of Apple's designs and policies iOS4 won't ever work on those. Android phones, even some of the earliest models, can be modded to run the latest OS. In Apple and Android's case the amount of fragmentation will diminish as those customers upgrade to newer models.
Fragmentation is only an issue if you plan to write for those "few" versions of the phones that remain from the original release. Meaning you won't really have to worry about Android fragmentation. You should worry about iPhone. Win Mobile 7 fragmentation will be ongoing longer because it is too new, and it's unreleased--we know how Microsoft handles outdated products.
There's no evidence of that slowdown in sales due to the iPhone 4 leak. Can you provide the numbers from Apple or any other source that would support that? Let's try to stick to the facts that can be proven.
It does include iPhone 4 sales, but not all of them. The Nielsen ratings represent a total of about 1.7 million of those iPhone 4 sales. The iPhone 4 shipped on June 24, right before the quarter ended. Its 1.7 million first-weekend sales are presumably included among the Nielsen numbers.
I'm shocked to hear that any Windows mobile phones are still being sold. Surly they jest.
The market isn't there for them and never will be. Most grandmothers and Timmy himself have never expressed a wish for an iPad. As they become more sophisticated users they shun short use devices. All of them. What you are claiming is a carrot and stick. You think they go after the carrot while I think they are after a device that grows with their knowledge.
The market you claim is actually a false reality. No grandmother knowingly accepts a cripped device because they think it is easier. What's happening is that the fluffing of the device in their minds gets them orgasmic about the potential of a touch device, not an iPad. The eroticism crafted into the marketing ends as grandma and Timmy begin to learn of the walled nature and of the lack of functionality.
Grandma and Timmy will resent the device after a while claiming it won't do what they want it to do and no amount of reality distortion will raise their libido again.
Actually I want a touch tablet to do exactly what my PC does except in a very portable format. I want all the multitasking, the full programs, programming control, everything.
It just doesn't feel as refined YET.
I played Everquest when it first came out. It went strong for 5 years. It was setting the standards. When WoW came out that changed it. I moved over and played it for a year. I haven't played WoW since. My primary reason was that it attracted kiddies from Battle.net. These kiddies didn't understand what it took to be a serious gamer.
During the first 5 years, I played Everquest during most of my free time. I could always remark that playing the game kept me off the streets and saved me money because if I wasn't playing it I'd be out causing a ruckus or spending all my spare cash. Playing a MMORPG saved me money.
50% of the world's population may not have the ability to own an Apple device. But they do have the ability to own a tablet device. And 3 billion plus wasn't representing the number of people but the number of units (meaning one person might own 4 or 5 over the lifetime of that product). How many computers do you own or have owned?
There will be a wild potential for tablet's over time especially as the cost comes down. K-Mart is taking pre-order for their $160.00 Android tablet. The demand is so high they can't handle it and had to stop processing orders. $160.00 is far less than $550. The Android market place is 60,000+ apps. That's more than I'll use or even have the desire to sift through.
Of course Android. Android is going to put some serious shame in other mobile OSes. Even if Apple keeps building features first the competition will always be there to re-implement cheaper and faster.
Your skepticism is likely tied to a lack of in-depth knowledge of the competition.
HP has never been one that is good owning a technology and getting it adopted thus making them the leader. Windows won't be able to because they are a marketing driven company rather than a technology driven company. They also are not a consumer device company, they are more along the lines of enterprise. Google's Android is set to not only take the market, but set the standards, and to drive it home to the potential 3 billion plus market consumption over the life of the product.
The only thing innovative that I saw were the icons that show up when you zoom out. But that also leaves that space for advertising. I don't have a desire to look at it further. And, the lady giving the presentation was so boring and uninspiring.
It is such an achilles heal that it will come back and bite Apple real hard. It is the worm in Apple. All things considered those that don't care don't know. When the Android tablets come out en masse then the awareness will increase.
When people come into my store and the iPad is mentioned most people indicate that they think it is a good product, but when I mention it is a closed walled garden and the other restrictions most cease that opinion.
I do give them hope and indicate that it is a new market so they can expect good things from the Android tablets.
I think Apple's touch capabilities are quite a bit more advanced than what Microsoft incorporated into Windows to accommodate touch screens. You might want to look at how that works in order to understand how primitive those capabilities were.
It isn't confusing. My point was "it goes without saying".
What? Sell a possible 3 million copies of software for $2.00 to $30.00 (that's assuming everyone that owns one buys those products from Microsoft)?
Your statement required that it be addressed and clearly the answer indicates why Microsoft is not after Apple's market share. They are after the device developers. They want Win7 mobile on those tablet devices.
The world wide market is potentially 3 billion devices (maybe more over the life of the market). The 3.3 million iPads sold so far are less than 1/10th of 1% of that total potential. The Android tablets, when they come out, will consume most of that remaining potential (not immediately but over the long haul--that's a given). Microsoft is not going after Apple's share. They are going after Apple's business plan.
Pen Computing's offerings were a threat to Microsoft's core cash cow. Microsoft's philosophy back then was to kill anything that threatened the OS. Microsoft finagled their way into Pen's offices under the guise that they wanted to praise Pen if what they were creating was worthy. Pen, being flattered, allowed them to see the product. A few months later Microsoft announced Pen Windows. Everyone that was adopting Windows (the industry was headed that way en masse) directed their attention to Pen Windows. This told them that they shouldn't want to consider any alternatives when the pen concepts were being added to Windows itself. That began the downfall of Pen. It is the only reason Microsoft entered that market.
I believe the event was instigated by one of their key employees leaving to work for their competitors.
I think he was justly stating that the iPad is not a computer for anyone, not in the sense of a real computer. It's a gadget device for recreational use. He doesn't use a computer for that unless it's a recreational activity that tasks his abilities, such as a high end game.
I'm interested in a tablet PC but not Apple's version. I want control and the ability to do what I desire with it.
Ballmer has simply begun to understand that (as Gates said some time ago) computers are used primarily for consumption of information instead of the creation of it--which the iPad (or any tablet) is well suited to.
The tablet market is important and it does signify a change, but the tablet market is, at least to me, a recreational device. It never will perform the tasks that made the PC so successful. I'm not saying it's not a business device (it isn't) I'm saying it is not a device to be used for any significant purpose.
Recreational has its' place. Most uses are short use activites. Strain on the hand, arm, and shoulder prohibit it doing much more than being a music player, scrolling reader, simpleton gaming device.
Baller is spewing bullshit. He's after the Android tablet market share. He's pushing his people because he knows that the competitors to Apple's iPad haven't hit the market. If he's targeting Win7's tablet features, well, I don't think that any future success can be predicated on that. The last thing I want to see is a Win7 mobile OS on a tablet.
What he says about the count down timer was part of the news segment that I watched this past Sunday. They made note that the timers helped reduce the hazards.