early versions of mac OSX had a similar problem. 10,000 character password entries would unlock the system. Entering these was aided because the password field accepted emacs key commands (like every other field on a mac) so repeated ctrl-a ctrl-k ctrl-y ctrl-y ctrl-y quickly got you to the passwrd field overload point.
What versions? One of the Developer Previews?
Honestly, not only have I never heard of this vulnerability in OS X; but I couldn't find it on Google, nor, more importantly, could I find a "CVE" Reference to that alleged vulnerability, either. In fact, the CVE list only shows 92 Vulnerabilities for OS X from 2001 to present (and the vast majority being ranked level "2.1" on a scale of 2.0 to 2.99), as compared to 481 for Windows 7, 221 for Windows 8, 169 for Windows 8.1, and (drumroll please) 29 already for Windows 10 (even though it has only been released for a little over a month). Even more disturbingly, out of the 29 Windows 10 vulnerabilities, MOST of them are REALLY serious (levels 7 to 9).
You're a fucking NSA/Apple shill. Did you look into it at all?
LOL!!! You have NO idea how far both of those allegations are from the truth!
Yes I have looked into it.
The Internet is like the Bible: There are so many conflicting opinions, that you can prove ANY position. One site thinks that it is clear indication of purposeful sabotage; the next thinks that it is a cut and paste error; and the third site isn't sure, but says it's Apple, so it HAS to be evil.
My honest opinion, if I had to guess, and as a person who has coded professionally for about four decades, was that someone intended to remove an "IF..." Statement (now deleted) on the line just above the second "goto fail" line, and simply failed to remove the "goto fail". I've actually made that mistake myself, more than once. Not often, but it does happen. Combine that with a little "testing bias", and there is absolutely a very real chance that this was an honest coding mistake.
And by their own words, they could not. What is past, is past. But the truth is, at the present, there is nor a single mobile OEM that embraces nor encourages rooting a mobile device of their manufacture. And you know why? Because it almost universally results in a gaping security hole. Regardless of brand or platform.
People just need to get it through their addled brains that, although smartphones are in some ways (a lot of ways) "little computers", the use case and the amount of personal information that walks around casually in people's pockets on their smartphones, data that is but one wrong download from being beamed to who-knows-where, makes the whole idea of circumventing ANY of the security measures on such devices utterly foolhardy.
And apparently, every single mobile device OEM agrees.
Face it. Sometimes manufacturers are not simply trying to work with the Gummint. Sometimes even Evil Corp isn't trying to fuck us all...
Instead, it's mere control of your personal property, and therefore owned by the corporations. Individuals should never be allowed to wield such power - they simply can't be trusted not to infringe on the profits of the corporate elite.
Name any Android Device OEM that has a corporate policy of "C'mon and Root Us! We'll show you how! Right there on Page 86 of the User Manual.". Maybe Nexus phones; but that is about it, I would guess. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't explicitly endorse "Rooting", either.
That would of been Google; till their recent privacy policy that "prohibits" such activity now, they actively sought out "hackers" (sent them the phone) to root the phone so ROMs would be available for it when released.
No cite I've looked before and can't find it now. Had a Xoom tablet (Motorola, Google) and came across that fact in my searches. It would of been a Moto though.
So, in other words, every single mobile OEM now has EXACTLY the same policy regarding rooting. So I NEVER want to see Apple singled-out on this topic, EVER AGAIN.
The unfounded Apple hate around here is absolutely asinine.
When the antecedent refers to a group, e.g. "The crowd showed their approval by setting themselves on fire."
Yes, you can use "its" there, too; but English has many de facto synonyms and has a quite flexible syntax. That's why it is a wonderful language for poetry and lyrics.
As a contrast, try and do a pun in German. I don't think it can be done; because it is "one word, one definition". Great for scientific texts; horrible for plays-on-words.
Maybe because "their" is a plural and "a user" is a singular noun?
Unlike some languages, English does not have a gender neutral singular possessive determiner applicable to humans. "Its" is still considered rude to use when referring to homo sapiens.
Maybe because "their" is a plural and "a user" is a singular noun?
Unlike some languages, English does not have a gender neutral singular possessive determiner applicable to humans. "Its" is still considered rude to use when referring to homo sapiens.
I have to disagree with the grammar experts on this one. "Their", while not technically a singular possessive, is most assuredly less cumbersome than using "she or he" repeatedly (OMG, yuck!!!) or even worse, the non-word "S/he" or "Hir" (retch!!!).
So, kind of like the word "sheep" or "deer", which can mean either singular or plural depending on context, or "Aloha" (yes, another language, but...) which can mean "Hello" or "Goodbye", again depending on context; I firmly believe that "their" SHOULD be acceptable as a gender-neutral possessive, with the "pluralness" derived from context (which is almost always easily done).
That's exactly how language evolves. So, we either need to "grow" a reasonable gender-neutral singular possessive, or lighten up a bit regarding "their".
Obviously the numbers of IOS devices makes them a better target now
Wait! I thought that Android was the big gorilla, and iOS was at 14% and shrinking fast.
So which is it?
You are just saying anything to make yourself sound intelligent. Which you obviously are not; since you can't even use an APOSTROPHE correctly. It's POSSESIVE, not PLURALIZATION, FUCKTARD!
Oh, and you might consider using a COMMA once in awhile, too.
Instead, it's mere control of your personal property, and therefore owned by the corporations. Individuals should never be allowed to wield such power - they simply can't be trusted not to infringe on the profits of the corporate elite.
Apple certainly doesn't notify law enforcement if it discovers your phone/tablet has been jailbroken; and many, many Android-Device OEMs take measures in an attempt to thwart casual "rooting" of their Devices, too.
So, I'm not exactly sure why you are hating on Apple; because it seems like they are in line with the rest of the industry.
Name any Android Device OEM that has a corporate policy of "C'mon and Root Us! We'll show you how! Right there on Page 86 of the User Manual.". Maybe Nexus phones; but that is about it, I would guess. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't explicitly endorse "Rooting", either.
Maybe Apple should change the behavior of "accept from everybody." Make it so it only stays active for 15 minutes, and then goes back to contacts only. It'd be closer to Bluetooth discovery then.
I agree that that would be a quick and dirty solution; but probably effective.
Of course the bug is worrisome, but then, I consider the setting that allows it—leaving AirDrop open to everyone—to be a pretty ridiculous personal security flaw. Making one’s phone readily available to connections from random sources for the sole purpose of file drops doesn’t sound like something that should make the least bit of sense to even the average user.
Exactly.
If this was a flaw in Android, all the Fandroids would be blaming the User. Bet they won't feel the same about Apple, though.
The challenge there is actually getting the extra cellular matrix into the spinal cord while avoiding infection and other possible complications.
I'm not sure what infections there would be; the extracellular matrix is sterile (I think). As for "other complications", perhaps this could even be done laproscopically, to minimize intrusion/complications.
We WANT changes to the government which controls so much of our lives to be done carefully, thoughtfully, slowly.
Yeah, you mean like the USAPATRIOTACT, the 2,000+ pages of wholly unconstitutional tripe that was SUPPOSEDLY written in, "Reviewed" and PASSED in TWO WEEKS?!?
Al anyone has to do in Gummint is utter the magic phrases "Terrorism", "War on Drugs", or "For the Children", and Congress falls all over itself to pass whatever horseshit is placed before them. Most don't even read the stuff. I GUARANTEE no one read the USAPATRIOTACT (heck, that ACRONYM should have taken Two Weeks to come up with!).
There is a recent story about a man regrowing a chopped-off fingertip (bone, flesh, fingernail, even fingerprint!) when he put some "extracellular matrix" derived from pig bladder tissue (which is normally a waste product) onto his fingertip-stub.
So, I wonder if this would work with spinal-cord injuries, and possibly enhanced with electrical stimulation.
So if you're picking a platform to sell games on, you're going to start with iOS, because that's where the sales are.
Right.
You can always spot the NON-Developer Slashtards; because the Slashdotters that ARE mobile Devs., even if they personally like Android better, will almost universally agree that iOS, not Android, and certainly not WinPhone, is where the money is if you're a mobile Developer.
Except the new Apple TV is weaker than all of the current and last gen consoles.
Doesn't matter. It can run iOS Apps, and they can't. That means, in about two ri three months! it will have 1,000 times the Apps than all the other "consoles" combined. And what you have not taken into account is that not everyone wants to play games, watch video or listen to music. And once we get out of those applications, "consoles" are pretty much "done".
Google tried this a couple of years ago. Didn't have the "ecosystem" together. Amazon is kinda trying it now. No App support to speak of. Roku, WD Live, etc. are wonderful for local and streaming media, but nothing else. Every single HTPC is too "Computery", and almost all are embarrassingly unreliable.
But the AppleTV already HAS an ecosystem.
The AppleTV already has access to IOS and TVOS Apps.
The AppleTV already can play Games.
The AppleTV already can play local and streaming media.
The AppleTV is not "Computery".
The AppleTV will almost certainly be reliable.
So, it really doesn't matter if it doesn't have quite as much GPU power as an XBox or PS4, because it has enough to more than get by.
It really doesn't matter if it doesn't support every CODEC out of the box; for it will soon have Plex and VLC.
It doesn't really matter if it doesn't have all the kickass game titles that the "consoles" have; for it will have so many other Apps that gaming will be just one "driver" of sales (but one that Apple really does appear to be taking quite seriously).
So, watch out, 'cause Apple just stopped considering AppleTV a "hobby".
Any serious gamer will stick with console or PC. Any one already in the Apple eco-system might take enough interest to give it a shot. The thing that turned it from "Whatever" to "Maybe" for me was that Plex just announced they will support it. I don't really have any time or much interest for games any more so a good all in one media player that is at least as good as my phone at games and can use the phone as a controller might be cool. I have a Roku now that came with Angry Birds. I played it once. Not really an interest but I appreciate that it can do some simple games and might work for a family situation (kind of targeting Wii use case)
I'm kinda with you. I loaded a few games on my iPhone when I first got it, and went "That's pretty impressive for a phone"; but I played them once. I, too, am interested primarily in whether it will make a viable HTPC, so I can retire the hulking, liquid-cooled, G5 tower that serves as my ersatz HTPC with "Front Row" (don't laugh!), and the horrible NetFlix and Hulu apps in my LG TV.
And if Plex is going to be better-behaved on AppleTV than it has been in the past on OS X, I will be all over that!
I just saw that VLC is going to come to AppleTV, too! Seems like they got over their little tantrum...
And since TVOS can run "Universal" iOS Apps, stuff like iRedHD and SecuritySpy that already run on iOS will no doubt be setup to run on TVOS; so my G5 tower can stop being my home security server, too!
Apple iOS has a market share of 14% versus 83% Android
I seriously question that "statistic".
And even if it IS true for the "I am a phone, and have a few FREE apps" users, the typical iPhone/iPad user has LOTS of PAID Apps (some in the hundreds!), so it more than makes-up for all the ghetto and child Android customers that have their shitbox plastic Android phones. THOSE are the ones that inflate the marketshare numbers; not the relatively few that can afford Samsung phones that are as much, or even more, than iPhones.
It's far too late to try and introduce a new console to the market now, just look at the ouya.
Xbox, playstation, nintendo and PC have the market majority when it comes to games. Nobody buys an apple for gaming so what exactly do they plan on running on it? Mobile ports no doubt which, as history has shown, don't translate well when moved from a small touch screen to a large screen and controller.
I hope you put some salt on those words, so they are more tasty when you have to eat them in a very short while.
Developers are already lined-up to start trying-out the stuff they are already developing for the AppleTV.
I'll be the servers that are hosting developer.apple.com are white-hot from all the downloads of the TVOS SDK.
In fact, I would be willing to be big money that some of the people who are AppleTV hating on this very site are busily studying TVOS right now.
Nobody fucks customers and developers like Apple. No one else even comes close
Relative to what, exactly?
Citation, please. And please no "I can build some bullshit whitebox computer with no warranty for half of what it costs to buy a Mac Pro". That doesn't count.
And I'm especially interested in how, exactly that it is that Apple fucks Developers. They know the Walled Garden deal going in (which doesn't apply to OS X Devs), it is the same "split" as everyone (I think MS is ever-so-slightly different), and it is an environment where the users aren't just interested in how much shit they can ripoff and/or get for free, like the vast, vast, vast majority of Android users.
early versions of mac OSX had a similar problem. 10,000 character password entries would unlock the system. Entering these was aided because the password field accepted emacs key commands (like every other field on a mac) so repeated ctrl-a ctrl-k ctrl-y ctrl-y ctrl-y quickly got you to the passwrd field overload point.
What versions? One of the Developer Previews?
Honestly, not only have I never heard of this vulnerability in OS X; but I couldn't find it on Google, nor, more importantly, could I find a "CVE" Reference to that alleged vulnerability, either. In fact, the CVE list only shows 92 Vulnerabilities for OS X from 2001 to present (and the vast majority being ranked level "2.1" on a scale of 2.0 to 2.99), as compared to 481 for Windows 7, 221 for Windows 8, 169 for Windows 8.1, and (drumroll please) 29 already for Windows 10 (even though it has only been released for a little over a month). Even more disturbingly, out of the 29 Windows 10 vulnerabilities, MOST of them are REALLY serious (levels 7 to 9).
You're a fucking NSA/Apple shill. Did you look into it at all?
LOL!!! You have NO idea how far both of those allegations are from the truth!
Yes I have looked into it.
The Internet is like the Bible: There are so many conflicting opinions, that you can prove ANY position. One site thinks that it is clear indication of purposeful sabotage; the next thinks that it is a cut and paste error; and the third site isn't sure, but says it's Apple, so it HAS to be evil.
My honest opinion, if I had to guess, and as a person who has coded professionally for about four decades, was that someone intended to remove an "IF..." Statement (now deleted) on the line just above the second "goto fail" line, and simply failed to remove the "goto fail". I've actually made that mistake myself, more than once. Not often, but it does happen. Combine that with a little "testing bias", and there is absolutely a very real chance that this was an honest coding mistake.
The question was name any.
And by their own words, they could not. What is past, is past. But the truth is, at the present, there is nor a single mobile OEM that embraces nor encourages rooting a mobile device of their manufacture. And you know why? Because it almost universally results in a gaping security hole. Regardless of brand or platform.
People just need to get it through their addled brains that, although smartphones are in some ways (a lot of ways) "little computers", the use case and the amount of personal information that walks around casually in people's pockets on their smartphones, data that is but one wrong download from being beamed to who-knows-where, makes the whole idea of circumventing ANY of the security measures on such devices utterly foolhardy.
And apparently, every single mobile device OEM agrees.
Face it. Sometimes manufacturers are not simply trying to work with the Gummint. Sometimes even Evil Corp isn't trying to fuck us all...
Goto fail.
No reasonable explanation. Patching error? Fuck off.
Spoken by someone who has never written a line of code, nor screwed up a cut and paste operation.
Instead, it's mere control of your personal property, and therefore owned by the corporations. Individuals should never be allowed to wield such power - they simply can't be trusted not to infringe on the profits of the corporate elite.
Name any Android Device OEM that has a corporate policy of "C'mon and Root Us! We'll show you how! Right there on Page 86 of the User Manual.". Maybe Nexus phones; but that is about it, I would guess. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't explicitly endorse "Rooting", either.
That would of been Google; till their recent privacy policy that "prohibits" such activity now, they actively sought out "hackers" (sent them the phone) to root the phone so ROMs would be available for it when released.
No cite I've looked before and can't find it now. Had a Xoom tablet (Motorola, Google) and came across that fact in my searches. It would of been a Moto though.
So, in other words, every single mobile OEM now has EXACTLY the same policy regarding rooting. So I NEVER want to see Apple singled-out on this topic, EVER AGAIN.
The unfounded Apple hate around here is absolutely asinine.
Since when is the word "their" plural?
When the antecedent refers to a group, e.g. "The crowd showed their approval by setting themselves on fire."
Yes, you can use "its" there, too; but English has many de facto synonyms and has a quite flexible syntax. That's why it is a wonderful language for poetry and lyrics.
As a contrast, try and do a pun in German. I don't think it can be done; because it is "one word, one definition". Great for scientific texts; horrible for plays-on-words.
Maybe because "their" is a plural and "a user" is a singular noun?
Unlike some languages, English does not have a gender neutral singular possessive determiner applicable to humans. "Its" is still considered rude to use when referring to homo sapiens.
Maybe because "their" is a plural and "a user" is a singular noun?
Unlike some languages, English does not have a gender neutral singular possessive determiner applicable to humans. "Its" is still considered rude to use when referring to homo sapiens.
I have to disagree with the grammar experts on this one. "Their", while not technically a singular possessive, is most assuredly less cumbersome than using "she or he" repeatedly (OMG, yuck!!!) or even worse, the non-word "S/he" or "Hir" (retch!!!).
So, kind of like the word "sheep" or "deer", which can mean either singular or plural depending on context, or "Aloha" (yes, another language, but...) which can mean "Hello" or "Goodbye", again depending on context; I firmly believe that "their" SHOULD be acceptable as a gender-neutral possessive, with the "pluralness" derived from context (which is almost always easily done).
That's exactly how language evolves. So, we either need to "grow" a reasonable gender-neutral singular possessive, or lighten up a bit regarding "their".
Obviously the numbers of IOS devices makes them a better target now
Wait! I thought that Android was the big gorilla, and iOS was at 14% and shrinking fast.
So which is it?
You are just saying anything to make yourself sound intelligent. Which you obviously are not; since you can't even use an APOSTROPHE correctly. It's POSSESIVE, not PLURALIZATION, FUCKTARD!
Oh, and you might consider using a COMMA once in awhile, too.
It's a bug, not yet another NSA/GCHQ backdoor that offers Apple "deniability" of their collusion with intelligence agencies.
Citation, please!
who even knows AirDrop is a thing in OS X?
NOW who's engaging in Selection Bias?
IIRC, AirDrop was available for OS X BEFORE it came out for iOS.
Yep. AirDrop was available on OS X 10.7 (Lion), released on July 10, 2011, but not available on iOS until iOS 7, some two years later.
Way to keep up with technology, 'tard!
Instead, it's mere control of your personal property, and therefore owned by the corporations. Individuals should never be allowed to wield such power - they simply can't be trusted not to infringe on the profits of the corporate elite.
Apple certainly doesn't notify law enforcement if it discovers your phone/tablet has been jailbroken; and many, many Android-Device OEMs take measures in an attempt to thwart casual "rooting" of their Devices, too.
So, I'm not exactly sure why you are hating on Apple; because it seems like they are in line with the rest of the industry.
Name any Android Device OEM that has a corporate policy of "C'mon and Root Us! We'll show you how! Right there on Page 86 of the User Manual.". Maybe Nexus phones; but that is about it, I would guess. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't explicitly endorse "Rooting", either.
because Apple is so amazingly good at security. Except they aren't so oops.
Mighty haughty words, considering Android's "security" record.
Maybe Apple should change the behavior of "accept from everybody." Make it so it only stays active for 15 minutes, and then goes back to contacts only. It'd be closer to Bluetooth discovery then.
I agree that that would be a quick and dirty solution; but probably effective.
Of course the bug is worrisome, but then, I consider the setting that allows it—leaving AirDrop open to everyone—to be a pretty ridiculous personal security flaw. Making one’s phone readily available to connections from random sources for the sole purpose of file drops doesn’t sound like something that should make the least bit of sense to even the average user.
Exactly.
If this was a flaw in Android, all the Fandroids would be blaming the User. Bet they won't feel the same about Apple, though.
The challenge there is actually getting the extra cellular matrix into the spinal cord while avoiding infection and other possible complications.
I'm not sure what infections there would be; the extracellular matrix is sterile (I think). As for "other complications", perhaps this could even be done laproscopically, to minimize intrusion/complications.
We WANT changes to the government which controls so much of our lives to be done carefully, thoughtfully, slowly.
Yeah, you mean like the USAPATRIOTACT, the 2,000+ pages of wholly unconstitutional tripe that was SUPPOSEDLY written in, "Reviewed" and PASSED in TWO WEEKS?!?
Al anyone has to do in Gummint is utter the magic phrases "Terrorism", "War on Drugs", or "For the Children", and Congress falls all over itself to pass whatever horseshit is placed before them. Most don't even read the stuff. I GUARANTEE no one read the USAPATRIOTACT (heck, that ACRONYM should have taken Two Weeks to come up with!).
So please, cry me a river, Mr. Gummint Apologist.
There is a recent story about a man regrowing a chopped-off fingertip (bone, flesh, fingernail, even fingerprint!) when he put some "extracellular matrix" derived from pig bladder tissue (which is normally a waste product) onto his fingertip-stub.
So, I wonder if this would work with spinal-cord injuries, and possibly enhanced with electrical stimulation.
So if you're picking a platform to sell games on, you're going to start with iOS, because that's where the sales are.
Right.
You can always spot the NON-Developer Slashtards; because the Slashdotters that ARE mobile Devs., even if they personally like Android better, will almost universally agree that iOS, not Android, and certainly not WinPhone, is where the money is if you're a mobile Developer.
Except the new Apple TV is weaker than all of the current and last gen consoles.
Doesn't matter. It can run iOS Apps, and they can't. That means, in about two ri three months! it will have 1,000 times the Apps than all the other "consoles" combined. And what you have not taken into account is that not everyone wants to play games, watch video or listen to music. And once we get out of those applications, "consoles" are pretty much "done".
Google tried this a couple of years ago. Didn't have the "ecosystem" together. Amazon is kinda trying it now. No App support to speak of. Roku, WD Live, etc. are wonderful for local and streaming media, but nothing else. Every single HTPC is too "Computery", and almost all are embarrassingly unreliable.
But the AppleTV already HAS an ecosystem.
The AppleTV already has access to IOS and TVOS Apps.
The AppleTV already can play Games.
The AppleTV already can play local and streaming media.
The AppleTV is not "Computery".
The AppleTV will almost certainly be reliable.
So, it really doesn't matter if it doesn't have quite as much GPU power as an XBox or PS4, because it has enough to more than get by.
It really doesn't matter if it doesn't support every CODEC out of the box; for it will soon have Plex and VLC.
It doesn't really matter if it doesn't have all the kickass game titles that the "consoles" have; for it will have so many other Apps that gaming will be just one "driver" of sales (but one that Apple really does appear to be taking quite seriously).
So, watch out, 'cause Apple just stopped considering AppleTV a "hobby".
Any serious gamer will stick with console or PC. Any one already in the Apple eco-system might take enough interest to give it a shot. The thing that turned it from "Whatever" to "Maybe" for me was that Plex just announced they will support it. I don't really have any time or much interest for games any more so a good all in one media player that is at least as good as my phone at games and can use the phone as a controller might be cool. I have a Roku now that came with Angry Birds. I played it once. Not really an interest but I appreciate that it can do some simple games and might work for a family situation (kind of targeting Wii use case)
I'm kinda with you. I loaded a few games on my iPhone when I first got it, and went "That's pretty impressive for a phone"; but I played them once. I, too, am interested primarily in whether it will make a viable HTPC, so I can retire the hulking, liquid-cooled, G5 tower that serves as my ersatz HTPC with "Front Row" (don't laugh!), and the horrible NetFlix and Hulu apps in my LG TV.
And if Plex is going to be better-behaved on AppleTV than it has been in the past on OS X, I will be all over that!
I just saw that VLC is going to come to AppleTV, too! Seems like they got over their little tantrum...
And since TVOS can run "Universal" iOS Apps, stuff like iRedHD and SecuritySpy that already run on iOS will no doubt be setup to run on TVOS; so my G5 tower can stop being my home security server, too!
Apple iOS has a market share of 14% versus 83% Android
I seriously question that "statistic".
And even if it IS true for the "I am a phone, and have a few FREE apps" users, the typical iPhone/iPad user has LOTS of PAID Apps (some in the hundreds!), so it more than makes-up for all the ghetto and child Android customers that have their shitbox plastic Android phones. THOSE are the ones that inflate the marketshare numbers; not the relatively few that can afford Samsung phones that are as much, or even more, than iPhones.
It's far too late to try and introduce a new console to the market now, just look at the ouya.
Xbox, playstation, nintendo and PC have the market majority when it comes to games. Nobody buys an apple for gaming so what exactly do they plan on running on it? Mobile ports no doubt which, as history has shown, don't translate well when moved from a small touch screen to a large screen and controller.
I hope you put some salt on those words, so they are more tasty when you have to eat them in a very short while.
Developers are already lined-up to start trying-out the stuff they are already developing for the AppleTV.
I'll be the servers that are hosting developer.apple.com are white-hot from all the downloads of the TVOS SDK.
In fact, I would be willing to be big money that some of the people who are AppleTV hating on this very site are busily studying TVOS right now.
True enough. However, one thing we can trust them to do is make an expensive games console.
...With more games and other Apps available in the first month after launch than the rest of the consoles and set-top-boxes combined.
Now what?
One thing for certain, the price will be higher than everyone else's.
But so will the quality and the App selection.
Now what?
Nobody fucks customers and developers like Apple. No one else even comes close
Relative to what, exactly?
Citation, please. And please no "I can build some bullshit whitebox computer with no warranty for half of what it costs to buy a Mac Pro". That doesn't count.
And I'm especially interested in how, exactly that it is that Apple fucks Developers. They know the Walled Garden deal going in (which doesn't apply to OS X Devs), it is the same "split" as everyone (I think MS is ever-so-slightly different), and it is an environment where the users aren't just interested in how much shit they can ripoff and/or get for free, like the vast, vast, vast majority of Android users.
So, let's hear your spiel, buddy.