.
I want to be the one in control of my music library. I do not want Apple, acting as a proxy for the media industry, taking inventory of the songs I have and changing the metadata for those songs.
Why oh why do you think you would NOT be "in control of [your] music library"?
You DO realize, of course, that any statistical data that is gleaned from Apple Music and/or iTunes Match, etc. is ANONYMOUS.
Are you REALLY so full of yourself that you think ANYONE cares what music you like, other than as part of a statistical dataset?
So many stupid comments about how Apple users cannot be advanced users, including troll moderators that support such idiocy.
Guess what, idiots? They're advanced users, not hackers/coders/programmers. Stop being elitist jerks and accept that there's people less knowledgeable than yourselves.
And guess what? Some of us Apple users ARE hackers/coders/programmers. Now what?!?
Nah. Macs have far worse and basic problems all over the place. For example, finder not having a cut function, or a keyboard shortcut to rename files.Of course if has no useful extensions like TortoiseSVN either. The "app bar" thing sucks, and so does alt-tab not cycling through minimized programs, and there's no equivalent to alt-f4 either. The whole damn thing seems horribly crippled. It's by far the worst user interface I've ever used (including various Linux flavors, OS/2 and others)
"Cut" in Finder would be a ridiculously-dangerous thing; however, if you hold the Option key while Drag-Copying a file, it WILL do a "Move" instead of a Copy. That has existed since the MacOS Classic days (don't remember which version, but it was pretty early-on). And, holding "Shift" while Drag-Copying a file will create an Alias (Shortcut) instead of copying the source file.
El Capitan (OS X 10.11) will introduce a Contextual Menu Item "Rename", and with OS X, it is trivial to add Keyboard Shortcuts to Applications (or system-wide). So that's another one down....
As for the other things, it sounds like you're simply wanting OS X to act like Windows. ALT-F4 is HARDLY a Universal Standard, get over it. Learn Command-Q. My biggest issue going back and forth between Windows and OS X has always been Windows' use of Ctrl-C/X/V/Z for the almost always-used Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo. It ALWAYS trips me up when I am at work on my Windows laptop, and then use my Mac at home. Yes, Keyboard Maestro can remap Command-C/X/V/Z, but then I feel "unclean" using them on my Mac, LOL!
As for the ALT-TAB not cycling through minimized apps: Here is a way to do it from the keyboard. I'll admit it seems a little kludgy; but name me any OS that doesn't have a few of those. Personally, I can count on about 3 fingers the number of times I have used Command-TAB on my Mac in the fifteen years I have used OS X.
Does Cook know you're screwing around on/. instead of working? Of COURSE you work on a Mac Pro. I built a bookcase with power tools. My grandpa built his icefishing darkhouse with hand tools, though.
WTF does that even mean???
All you ever do is throw crap around on Apple articles. You have a serious mental problem, buddy.
I reinstall just-infrequently-enough that I don't maintain an image w/ all the updates slipstreamed in, so it invariably takes 20mins for the initial install, and then hours and hours for all the updates to get it current.
It'd be really nice if MS would be kind enough to provide up-to-date.ISO builds like they've been doing w/ the Win10 insider program
Or Combo Updates, like Apple does with OS X (and even before).
- Hey, how come I can't run Excel anymore?
- Excel doesn't run under Linux, but here, you can use OpenOffice instead.
- Screw that, I need to run Excel! Put Windows back on!
Well, there is another alternative: Get a Mac.
That way, you can have your Excel (or Libre Office) and a secure OS. And if you want to mess around in the command-line world, well, you can do that, too.
And I haven't been able to fly on any planet with a gravity.
If you put a caveat like "without taking my fingers off the keyboard", of course you can claim "victory". But, with a Keyboard Clit, you still have to take at least one hand out of the "typing position" to use the Clit; so it is just as "disruptive" to touch-typing as a Trackpad.
I'm on a Macbook right now and the touchpad sucks.
Then you just plain don't like touchpads; because Apple is nearly universally-recognized as having the best Trackpad, by a very large margin.
So, you can do one of two things:
1. Get an external mouse. Done.
2. Use the most-excellent Keyboard Shortcuts built into OS X (and then you don't even have to remove your fingers from the keyboard!). Look at this list, and this list. If you can't find sufficient abilities in those two lists, you are truly unique in your text-manipulation requirements.
Anyone with eyesight can tell you're full of shit and that Apple copied Microsoft.
BTW, all of the pictures are actual screenshots, none of them are fake, so you've just stuck your foot down your own throat.
Anyhow, again you fail. Have a nice day:)
Actual Screenshots... But of what? Somebody's CONCEPT of what it MIGHT have looked like?
Show me the actual site that these came from; because I think even you would agree that they sure don't look like the screenshots on the Apple site, which are easily verified.
I don't know where you got that BOGUS screenshot; but OS X looks NOTHING like that picture. Here is the current version of OS X, "Yosemite" (10.10) and the soon-to-be-released "El Capitan" (10.11).
Although it is certainly "flatter" than it used to be, as you can plainly see, it looks NOTHING like those horrid, fugly, trumped-up pictures you linked. In fact, if you scroll down on the "Yosemite" Page I linked to the point where it says "More elegant, from A to Z", you will see how the Finder window ALLEGEDGLY depicted in the ALLEGED 10.10 Screenshot you linked REALLY looks.
91.06% to Windows. I know you want to believe that your shit choice in OS is popular and that people like it, but they don't. Sorry to shatter your delusion.
Look: I work in and Admin Windows all day at work. I develop Windows Application software for a living., yadda, yadda. I KNOW the Difference.
Every day, and in every way, I am reminded about how much more well thought out and just plain more pleasant to use OS X is over any version of Windows that I have had the displeasure to use (3.10 to 8, and NT 3.51 to Server 2014). Windows 7 (which I have on my work laptop), is only JUST tolerable, and the way they are going these days...
Switcher, which your own link says was only released in beta in 1985, was not a virtual desktop, it was a very simple task switcher. It was inferior to DESQview which was a true multitasker and was actually released in 1985. DESQview was the successor to Desq, a task switcher for MS-DOS that was released in 1984, an entire year before Apple even had a beta of Switcher.
And I wrote a task switcher for my Apple ][ in 1980; so what?
Windows had virtual desktops long before Mac OS. Back on Windows 95 I remember it supporting a hardware accelerated, scrolling virtual desktop. Also the virtual desktop PowerToy was around for years before OS X even existed.
And the Macintosh had "Switcher" in January, 1985, before Billy-Bob had even debuted version 1.0 of his Windows OS.
LOL Mac can't even do 3D cube animation for changing virtual desktop and it only supports up to 16 virtual desktops. It really is a piece of shit compared to Dexpot.
First off, they already went through the 3D cube animation bit for Fast User Switching, back in 2003, in the 10.3 (Panther) days, even before the Intel switch. Check it out starting at 36:40 in this Keynote from 2003.
And as far as the 16 Spaces limit, that was in the first version, back in OS X 10.5 (Leopard). The latest version, about to be released in OS X 10.11 (El Capitan), is apparently only limited by available resources. However, Dexpot appears to only support 20 Desktops, period.
I don't know OSX and have no opinion on the matter, but Ctrl-F7 before tab can navigate between input fields seems weird. Why not have those commonly used keyboard shortcuts 'just work' without particular difficulty.
Ctrl-F7 ("Full Keyboard Access") is part of the "Accessibility" Features in OS X. Normally, you can just TAB between Text Input Fields in Dialogs in OS X; but Ctrl-F7 enables a BUNCH (more) Keyboard Commands in OS X that can be used for UI Navigation, and was mentioned in an internet posting I found regarding how to navigate the OS X Login screen without requiring a Mouse.
Why do you even comment on these threads? Are you just looking to swing your Apple-branded dick around? You're not bringing anything to the discussion, you are just arguing your opinion, and it's not even original.
1. Because every Linux, Android and Windows fanboi seems to feel it is their civic duty to tromp all over every single "Apple" Article on this site (show me even one example of an "Apple"-oriented article on Slashdot where Commenters don't spew completely over-the-top, unmitigated hate at Apple, it's products, and its userbase); so there is a bit of "Turnabout is fair play" to it.
2. Because I was originally Replying to This Post, above, which accused Apple (and Google) of copying Microsoft, when it was really all three of them following "fashion trends" in UI design (Apple far less than others, especially MS)
3. Because, in the spirit of Slashdot's Comment Section, wouldn't this be a boring site if every Post was nothing more than a love-fest for TFA and the other Posters?
4. Because it is still somewhat of a free country; so you can politely PISS OFF!
OSX lacks even simple things like the ability to log in to a machine without a mouse. There is no way to tab into the password field at the OSX login screen,
Wrong! fucktard.
There are actually TWO ways to do this: If the Mac is set to show a list of Users at startup, then pressing the first letter of you Username and Press Return (Enter). This will put you into the Password field, where you can enter your Password.
The second method involves pressing Ctrl-F7, which puts OS X into "full keyboard access" mode (it's a toggle). Then you can use TAB to move between Input fields and other UI elements.
As I am sure you don't know, because you are an arrogant little ignorant fucktard hater, is that OSX has ALWAYS supported a pretty large array of built-in Keyboard commands; and not only that, unlike Windows (I don't know about Linux), you can actually DEFINE Keyboard shortcuts that are Application-Specific, or even System-Wide (see link on the Article I linked-to).
So, I guess the "Apple Way" is really more like "Whatever way you want", eh?
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. I want to be the one in control of my music library. I do not want Apple, acting as a proxy for the media industry, taking inventory of the songs I have and changing the metadata for those songs.
Why oh why do you think you would NOT be "in control of [your] music library"?
You DO realize, of course, that any statistical data that is gleaned from Apple Music and/or iTunes Match, etc. is ANONYMOUS.
Are you REALLY so full of yourself that you think ANYONE cares what music you like, other than as part of a statistical dataset?
So many stupid comments about how Apple users cannot be advanced users, including troll moderators that support such idiocy.
Guess what, idiots? They're advanced users, not hackers/coders/programmers. Stop being elitist jerks and accept that there's people less knowledgeable than yourselves.
And guess what? Some of us Apple users ARE hackers/coders/programmers. Now what?!?
Nah. Macs have far worse and basic problems all over the place. For example, finder not having a cut function, or a keyboard shortcut to rename files.Of course if has no useful extensions like TortoiseSVN either. The "app bar" thing sucks, and so does alt-tab not cycling through minimized programs, and there's no equivalent to alt-f4 either. The whole damn thing seems horribly crippled. It's by far the worst user interface I've ever used (including various Linux flavors, OS/2 and others)
"Cut" in Finder would be a ridiculously-dangerous thing; however, if you hold the Option key while Drag-Copying a file, it WILL do a "Move" instead of a Copy. That has existed since the MacOS Classic days (don't remember which version, but it was pretty early-on). And, holding "Shift" while Drag-Copying a file will create an Alias (Shortcut) instead of copying the source file.
El Capitan (OS X 10.11) will introduce a Contextual Menu Item "Rename", and with OS X, it is trivial to add Keyboard Shortcuts to Applications (or system-wide). So that's another one down....
As for the other things, it sounds like you're simply wanting OS X to act like Windows. ALT-F4 is HARDLY a Universal Standard, get over it. Learn Command-Q. My biggest issue going back and forth between Windows and OS X has always been Windows' use of Ctrl-C/X/V/Z for the almost always-used Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo. It ALWAYS trips me up when I am at work on my Windows laptop, and then use my Mac at home. Yes, Keyboard Maestro can remap Command-C/X/V/Z, but then I feel "unclean" using them on my Mac, LOL!
As for TortoiseSVN, I am not too familiar with that, but there are Subversion clients for OS X. Here's one I found in about 2 seconds on Google. Here is a list of more alternatives to Tortoise for OS X.
As for the ALT-TAB not cycling through minimized apps: Here is a way to do it from the keyboard. I'll admit it seems a little kludgy; but name me any OS that doesn't have a few of those. Personally, I can count on about 3 fingers the number of times I have used Command-TAB on my Mac in the fifteen years I have used OS X.
THIS. My kingdom for mod points. Focus stealing is the most evil awful part of Mac OS X.
But they must've copied it from Microsoft; because Windows has had that "feature" since, well, a loooong time.
Does Cook know you're screwing around on /. instead of working? Of COURSE you work on a Mac Pro. I built a bookcase with power tools. My grandpa built his icefishing darkhouse with hand tools, though.
WTF does that even mean???
All you ever do is throw crap around on Apple articles. You have a serious mental problem, buddy.
big man oh, kernel edits. let's give this comment more consideration than my unwiped asshole
Sounds like someone's Jeal-ous...
I reinstall just-infrequently-enough that I don't maintain an image w/ all the updates slipstreamed in, so it invariably takes 20mins for the initial install, and then hours and hours for all the updates to get it current.
It'd be really nice if MS would be kind enough to provide up-to-date .ISO builds like they've been doing w/ the Win10 insider program
Or Combo Updates, like Apple does with OS X (and even before).
[... 5 minutes later...]
- Hey, how come I can't run Excel anymore? - Excel doesn't run under Linux, but here, you can use OpenOffice instead. - Screw that, I need to run Excel! Put Windows back on!
Well, there is another alternative: Get a Mac.
That way, you can have your Excel (or Libre Office) and a secure OS. And if you want to mess around in the command-line world, well, you can do that, too.
I can't force you to acknowledge the undeniable correctness of my opinion if you choose otherwise.
FTFY.
without taking my fingers off the keyboard.
And I haven't been able to fly on any planet with a gravity.
If you put a caveat like "without taking my fingers off the keyboard", of course you can claim "victory". But, with a Keyboard Clit, you still have to take at least one hand out of the "typing position" to use the Clit; so it is just as "disruptive" to touch-typing as a Trackpad.
Indeed, touchpads suck
But Keyboard Clits suck much more.
I'm on a Macbook right now and the touchpad sucks.
Then you just plain don't like touchpads; because Apple is nearly universally-recognized as having the best Trackpad, by a very large margin.
So, you can do one of two things:
1. Get an external mouse. Done.
2. Use the most-excellent Keyboard Shortcuts built into OS X (and then you don't even have to remove your fingers from the keyboard!). Look at this list, and this list. If you can't find sufficient abilities in those two lists, you are truly unique in your text-manipulation requirements.
Anyone with eyesight can tell you're full of shit and that Apple copied Microsoft.
BTW, all of the pictures are actual screenshots, none of them are fake, so you've just stuck your foot down your own throat.
Anyhow, again you fail. Have a nice day :)
Actual Screenshots... But of what? Somebody's CONCEPT of what it MIGHT have looked like?
Show me the actual site that these came from; because I think even you would agree that they sure don't look like the screenshots on the Apple site, which are easily verified.
So, "source" for those pics, or STFU.
Here is something that is going to make you feel even more stupid than you already are.
Apple Mac OS X flat style ripoff comparison
I don't know where you got that BOGUS screenshot; but OS X looks NOTHING like that picture. Here is the current version of OS X, "Yosemite" (10.10) and the soon-to-be-released "El Capitan" (10.11).
Although it is certainly "flatter" than it used to be, as you can plainly see, it looks NOTHING like those horrid, fugly, trumped-up pictures you linked. In fact, if you scroll down on the "Yosemite" Page I linked to the point where it says "More elegant, from A to Z", you will see how the Finder window ALLEGEDGLY depicted in the ALLEGED 10.10 Screenshot you linked REALLY looks.
Liar.
Now who's feeling stupid?
LOL, an Apple shill refers to an Apple shill site.
Here's the real info
91.06% to Windows. I know you want to believe that your shit choice in OS is popular and that people like it, but they don't. Sorry to shatter your delusion.
Look: I work in and Admin Windows all day at work. I develop Windows Application software for a living., yadda, yadda. I KNOW the Difference.
Every day, and in every way, I am reminded about how much more well thought out and just plain more pleasant to use OS X is over any version of Windows that I have had the displeasure to use (3.10 to 8, and NT 3.51 to Server 2014). Windows 7 (which I have on my work laptop), is only JUST tolerable, and the way they are going these days...
Switcher, which your own link says was only released in beta in 1985, was not a virtual desktop, it was a very simple task switcher. It was inferior to DESQview which was a true multitasker and was actually released in 1985. DESQview was the successor to Desq, a task switcher for MS-DOS that was released in 1984, an entire year before Apple even had a beta of Switcher.
And I wrote a task switcher for my Apple ][ in 1980; so what?
Dexpot supports 4 more virtual desktops than Mac OS does (20 vs 16) and has 3D cube. You and your Mac lose, sorry.
You are retarded. Reread my posts, and pay attention, if possible.
Unbelievable.
No. Unfortunately, all-too believable around here.
Windows had virtual desktops long before Mac OS. Back on Windows 95 I remember it supporting a hardware accelerated, scrolling virtual desktop. Also the virtual desktop PowerToy was around for years before OS X even existed.
And the Macintosh had "Switcher" in January, 1985, before Billy-Bob had even debuted version 1.0 of his Windows OS.
It's also why nobody uses Macintosh.
Keep telling yourself that.
LOL Mac can't even do 3D cube animation for changing virtual desktop and it only supports up to 16 virtual desktops. It really is a piece of shit compared to Dexpot.
First off, they already went through the 3D cube animation bit for Fast User Switching, back in 2003, in the 10.3 (Panther) days, even before the Intel switch. Check it out starting at 36:40 in this Keynote from 2003.
And as far as the 16 Spaces limit, that was in the first version, back in OS X 10.5 (Leopard). The latest version, about to be released in OS X 10.11 (El Capitan), is apparently only limited by available resources. However, Dexpot appears to only support 20 Desktops, period.
Big words for a scrawny little faggot that even Justin Bieber could beat up.
If you knew me, you would know that I WISHED I was anything even approaching "scrawny".
That is, assuming you meant "me".
I don't know OSX and have no opinion on the matter, but Ctrl-F7 before tab can navigate between input fields seems weird. Why not have those commonly used keyboard shortcuts 'just work' without particular difficulty.
Ctrl-F7 ("Full Keyboard Access") is part of the "Accessibility" Features in OS X. Normally, you can just TAB between Text Input Fields in Dialogs in OS X; but Ctrl-F7 enables a BUNCH (more) Keyboard Commands in OS X that can be used for UI Navigation, and was mentioned in an internet posting I found regarding how to navigate the OS X Login screen without requiring a Mouse.
Why do you even comment on these threads? Are you just looking to swing your Apple-branded dick around? You're not bringing anything to the discussion, you are just arguing your opinion, and it's not even original.
1. Because every Linux, Android and Windows fanboi seems to feel it is their civic duty to tromp all over every single "Apple" Article on this site (show me even one example of an "Apple"-oriented article on Slashdot where Commenters don't spew completely over-the-top, unmitigated hate at Apple, it's products, and its userbase); so there is a bit of "Turnabout is fair play" to it.
2. Because I was originally Replying to This Post, above, which accused Apple (and Google) of copying Microsoft, when it was really all three of them following "fashion trends" in UI design (Apple far less than others, especially MS)
3. Because, in the spirit of Slashdot's Comment Section, wouldn't this be a boring site if every Post was nothing more than a love-fest for TFA and the other Posters?
4. Because it is still somewhat of a free country; so you can politely PISS OFF!
OSX lacks even simple things like the ability to log in to a machine without a mouse. There is no way to tab into the password field at the OSX login screen,
Wrong! fucktard.
There are actually TWO ways to do this: If the Mac is set to show a list of Users at startup, then pressing the first letter of you Username and Press Return (Enter). This will put you into the Password field, where you can enter your Password.
The second method involves pressing Ctrl-F7, which puts OS X into "full keyboard access" mode (it's a toggle). Then you can use TAB to move between Input fields and other UI elements.
As I am sure you don't know, because you are an arrogant little ignorant fucktard hater, is that OSX has ALWAYS supported a pretty large array of built-in Keyboard commands; and not only that, unlike Windows (I don't know about Linux), you can actually DEFINE Keyboard shortcuts that are Application-Specific, or even System-Wide (see link on the Article I linked-to).
So, I guess the "Apple Way" is really more like "Whatever way you want", eh?