The built-in battery will fail after X charges. Unlike most other manufacturers, replacing the battery inside iThings is a nightmare.
Really? Show me a phone with a replaceable battery made in the past 2 or 3 years. If there is one, there is only one.
Also, my iPad 2 gets HEAVY use every single day, and if its battery life has diminished, it isn't by enough to notice. Same with my 2013 MacBook Pro and my 2015 iPhone 6+.
Some people just don't know how to treat rechargeable batteries...
Divide by 5 since the sheeple buy new "upgrades" every 6 months. Then subtract a few hundred thousand sold for the replacement because the screen that cracked after breathing on it the wrong way
You can't upgrade an iPhone every six months; because, unlike companies like Samsung, that launched something like FIFTY-SEVEN new Smartphones in ONE YEAR, Apple only updates the iPhone in a "Tick-Tock" cycle every year, with more significant Updates only happening every TWO years.
Yes, and the fact that they're now peddling that billion device figure shows that they're running out of ways to spin their nosedive in a positive way.
No, it means they just passed a sales figure that is meaningful to most people.
Personally I had high hopes that project are finally meant that I'd finally be able to get a "mobile sensor and computer platform" (what most folks call a 'mobile phone') that doesn't double as a stalker
Then you seriously need to look into an iOS device; particularly when iOS 10 comes out in a couple of months, with its "Differential Privacy" features.
Because it's bad, and sheep like yourself continue to buy it despite how bad it is. Of course, if anyone decides to speak up about how awful Apple products are, people like you try to tell them they're hateful and bigoted. Making a rational argument is usually beyond the sheep.
How in the FUCK is the Parent INFORMATIVE??? FFS, Mods!!!
I agree that once a phone is no longer able to get software updates it's usefulness fades fast, but even old phones can still do what they once did well: play music, make phone calls, send text messages, use apps with low hardware requirements, act as an alarm clock, or toddler fodder.
I would say that the usefulness fades slowly once they are no longer on the Update-Train; but with iPhones, fortunately that is usually a fairly long time.
They really don't... Nothing older than an iPhone 5 is in serious use, and any kid with an iPhone 4 is going to be hideously ridiculed. The only people I know that still use an iPhone 4 are incapable of doing anything but call (and at a stretch text, possibly email) - makes you wonder why they insist on a smartphone in the first place!
Both of the owners for the software business I work for still use iPhone 4 phones. I admit they aren't that "Appy" users; but the phones are still going strong, and seem to work fine for their use cases.
That's it. That's all that we need. If we could somehow figure out a way to get a good gaming experience on Linux then the fabled Year of the Linux Desktop(tm) would manifest in reality.
Windows would be relegated to the office (and even that can change since more and more apps are web based) and we would finally be free.
We need election reform. 12 year term limits and eliminating gerrymandering by requiring square-like districts and non-partisan individuals to make said districts.
As for the phone issue, I'd like to see a mandatory five year (labor and parts) warranty on all phones exceeding $200 with guaranteed security fixes for the first five years since major public availability.
Example: Phone becomes publicly available (not just a limited release) on January 19th, 2017. Would be covered until January 18th, 2022 for security fixes. However, if someone buys it on January 30th, 2018, it'd be covered until January 29th, 2023 for parts and labor.
Yeah, and people in Hell want icewater.
So, you want to essentially include an extended warranty package PLUS the cost of a new battery pack (and labor) into every phone purchase, right?
Fine. Your new $200 phone now costs $550. Suck it.
Oh, and your brilliant plan doesn't seem to require OS updates throughout that period, so...
Plus, I would venture to guess that most phones become not worth repairing through abuse, not component failure.
I'd rather have options than a world where Samsung was the only Android device manufacturer.
...and I might very well be right there with you, if Android wasn't such a Clusterfuck.
It's SLOWLY getting better; but it's STILL not really serious about critical things like delivering Security Patches, and properly vetting Apps in the Play Store.
Let me know when you get your microwave patched to dial 911. I hope that works out for you.
If you are implying that a person with ONLY an iPhone 3 couldn't use it to dial 911 because it was stuck on iOS 4 (IIRC), I don't understand what your point is. An iPhone doesn't magically stop working just because there are no more OS Updates for it.
If that sort of behavior was the case, there would be about 100 working Android handsets in the entire COUNTRY, because almost NONE of them are Supported, some not even when they are brand new...
It's a fucking COMPUTER. So, the same kind of things you would store on a desktop PC, or a NAS.
There were consumer 120GB hard drives almost 15 years ago FFS.
No. It's a PHONE with certain limited COMPUTER-LIKE functionality. It is no more a "computer" than your Playstation.
A phone is not a general purpose computer, and there should be special rules for it.
You're right. And there are. It's called "Support has ended. Enjoy your product while it lasts."
Your Microwave Oven doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your DVD Player doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your TV set doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your A/V Receiver doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replace with a newer model.
Your Game Console doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Every single one of those devices is an Embedded System, JUST like a Smartphone. Yet NO ONE (or at least no SANE person) expects THEM to be "Open Sourced" when they become Obsolete.
So why do you expect that your Phone would get Open Sourced, just because it has some functionality that SEEMS "computer-like"?
Don't forget that Motorola use the Six Sigma approach:
That was back when Motorola was actually Motorola.
I doubt that the Company-Formerly-Known-As-Motorola bears ANY resemblance whatsoever to the Mighty Motorola we all grew up with. br>
Very sad, actually. They USED to be a very cool company. Now, they're nothing more than a Chinese Copy of a once-respectable Brand Name.
but if they can get me a 128Gig unit for a decent price, I'll be satisfied being able to store what I need until I get home and can transfer it to my file server.
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The built-in battery will fail after X charges. Unlike most other manufacturers, replacing the battery inside iThings is a nightmare.
Really? Show me a phone with a replaceable battery made in the past 2 or 3 years. If there is one, there is only one.
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Also, my iPad 2 gets HEAVY use every single day, and if its battery life has diminished, it isn't by enough to notice. Same with my 2013 MacBook Pro and my 2015 iPhone 6+
Some people just don't know how to treat rechargeable batteries...
Meanwhile I've owned 3 Mac (1 iMac, 2 Macbooks), 1 pad and 2 iPod, and they all turned to shit within 2-3 years.
You are either REALLY hard on stuff, or have been UNBELIEVABLY unlucky (with the emphasis on the "Unbelievable" part).
Divide by 5 since the sheeple buy new "upgrades" every 6 months. Then subtract a few hundred thousand sold for the replacement because the screen that cracked after breathing on it the wrong way
You can't upgrade an iPhone every six months; because, unlike companies like Samsung, that launched something like FIFTY-SEVEN new Smartphones in ONE YEAR, Apple only updates the iPhone in a "Tick-Tock" cycle every year, with more significant Updates only happening every TWO years.
Yes, and the fact that they're now peddling that billion device figure shows that they're running out of ways to spin their nosedive in a positive way.
No, it means they just passed a sales figure that is meaningful to most people.
Personally I had high hopes that project are finally meant that I'd finally be able to get a "mobile sensor and computer platform" (what most folks call a 'mobile phone') that doesn't double as a stalker
Then you seriously need to look into an iOS device; particularly when iOS 10 comes out in a couple of months, with its "Differential Privacy" features.
Because it's bad, and sheep like yourself continue to buy it despite how bad it is. Of course, if anyone decides to speak up about how awful Apple products are, people like you try to tell them they're hateful and bigoted. Making a rational argument is usually beyond the sheep.
How in the FUCK is the Parent INFORMATIVE??? FFS, Mods!!!
I agree that once a phone is no longer able to get software updates it's usefulness fades fast, but even old phones can still do what they once did well: play music, make phone calls, send text messages, use apps with low hardware requirements, act as an alarm clock, or toddler fodder.
I would say that the usefulness fades slowly once they are no longer on the Update-Train; but with iPhones, fortunately that is usually a fairly long time.
They really don't... Nothing older than an iPhone 5 is in serious use, and any kid with an iPhone 4 is going to be hideously ridiculed. The only people I know that still use an iPhone 4 are incapable of doing anything but call (and at a stretch text, possibly email) - makes you wonder why they insist on a smartphone in the first place!
Both of the owners for the software business I work for still use iPhone 4 phones. I admit they aren't that "Appy" users; but the phones are still going strong, and seem to work fine for their use cases.
When does it stop becoming "sheep" and more like "hey, this thing ain't bad" ?
On this site? Why, "Never", of course...
That's it. That's all that we need. If we could somehow figure out a way to get a good gaming experience on Linux then the fabled Year of the Linux Desktop(tm) would manifest in reality.
Windows would be relegated to the office (and even that can change since more and more apps are web based) and we would finally be free.
I already am. At home, at least...
Yep. You can disable it in the group policy editor if you have pro, or in the registry editor if you don't.
Meanwhile, in MacOS, all you have to do to disable Siri is uncheck a simple GUI Checkbox.
If it's available since Android 2.3?
And it's also coming to iOS 10.
No, it's not Google's choice. Android is FOSS
From what I have read on this site, Android is "F/OSS" for very limited values of "F/OSS". IOW, it really ISN'T F/OSS in a PRACTICAL sense.
We need election reform. 12 year term limits and eliminating gerrymandering by requiring square-like districts and non-partisan individuals to make said districts.
As for the phone issue, I'd like to see a mandatory five year (labor and parts) warranty on all phones exceeding $200 with guaranteed security fixes for the first five years since major public availability. Example: Phone becomes publicly available (not just a limited release) on January 19th, 2017. Would be covered until January 18th, 2022 for security fixes. However, if someone buys it on January 30th, 2018, it'd be covered until January 29th, 2023 for parts and labor.
Yeah, and people in Hell want icewater.
So, you want to essentially include an extended warranty package PLUS the cost of a new battery pack (and labor) into every phone purchase, right?
Fine. Your new $200 phone now costs $550. Suck it.
Oh, and your brilliant plan doesn't seem to require OS updates throughout that period, so...
Plus, I would venture to guess that most phones become not worth repairing through abuse, not component failure.
There were over a hundred WebKit security updates last year. How many made it to the iPhone 3? https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatan...
I would imagine zero, which is to be expected for a phone discontinued in June, 2010. But they all made it to iPhone 4s, iPad 2 and above.
Still an infinitely better Support record than every, or nearly every, Android device.
properly vetting Apps in the Play Store.
Apple's policies are too restrictive. Google's aren't restrictive enough. People will complain either way.
It's a phone. Set your expectations accordingly.
I've got my MacBook Pro for when I want to go Midieval on something...
I'd rather have options than a world where Samsung was the only Android device manufacturer.
...and I might very well be right there with you, if Android wasn't such a Clusterfuck.
It's SLOWLY getting better; but it's STILL not really serious about critical things like delivering Security Patches, and properly vetting Apps in the Play Store.
Let me know when you get your microwave patched to dial 911. I hope that works out for you.
If you are implying that a person with ONLY an iPhone 3 couldn't use it to dial 911 because it was stuck on iOS 4 (IIRC), I don't understand what your point is. An iPhone doesn't magically stop working just because there are no more OS Updates for it.
If that sort of behavior was the case, there would be about 100 working Android handsets in the entire COUNTRY, because almost NONE of them are Supported, some not even when they are brand new...
It's a fucking COMPUTER. So, the same kind of things you would store on a desktop PC, or a NAS. There were consumer 120GB hard drives almost 15 years ago FFS.
No. It's a PHONE with certain limited COMPUTER-LIKE functionality. It is no more a "computer" than your Playstation.
Android got where it is by being open.
Typical Slashtard. Outside of this site, almost NO ONE cares that Android is "Open" (which it is actually NOT).
Android got to where it is by being on every cheap-ass FREE handset around, PERIOD. FULL STOP.
Apple and Android devices that viciously track and spy on them
Say all you want about Android and Tracking/Spying; but leave Apple out of this.
A phone is not a general purpose computer, and there should be special rules for it.
You're right. And there are. It's called "Support has ended. Enjoy your product while it lasts."
Your Microwave Oven doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your DVD Player doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your TV set doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Your A/V Receiver doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replace with a newer model.
Your Game Console doesn't get Open Sourced when it gets replaced with a newer model.
Every single one of those devices is an Embedded System, JUST like a Smartphone. Yet NO ONE (or at least no SANE person) expects THEM to be "Open Sourced" when they become Obsolete.
So why do you expect that your Phone would get Open Sourced, just because it has some functionality that SEEMS "computer-like"?
Don't forget that Motorola use the Six Sigma approach:
That was back when Motorola was actually Motorola.
I doubt that the Company-Formerly-Known-As-Motorola bears ANY resemblance whatsoever to the Mighty Motorola we all grew up with.
br> Very sad, actually. They USED to be a very cool company. Now, they're nothing more than a Chinese Copy of a once-respectable Brand Name.
but if they can get me a 128Gig unit for a decent price, I'll be satisfied being able to store what I need until I get home and can transfer it to my file server.
WTF are you storing on your PHONE, FFS?!?
we surely deserve better than this.
No we don't. Because we keep voting for the same "D"s an "R"s. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.