What I find is that if common USB devices (keyboard, mouse) are not being detected and installed properly by any of the USB ports then that Windows computer typically does not have the right versions of the chipset drivers and/or the USB drivers installed. It's interesting that people here are willing to put a tonne of effort to get Linux to work but aren't willing to go through basic troubleshooting steps, such as downloading the latest drivers, to get Windows to work.
If your OS needs a Driver to provide basic functionality with a USB HID device, the problem is with the OS, sorry!
I can plug ANY random USB keyboard or Mouse into a Mac, and the MOST you will see is a "Identify this Keyboard" "Assistant" pop up the first time. And NEVER even that with a Mouse. It Just Works.
Now if you want some "Advanced"/"Non-standard" Features, THEN you will likely have to install some software; but just to get basic functionality going. NEVER.
It doesn't work. A balloon states it is searching for a driver for the mouse. What for? Does Windows have different drivers for the same mouse if we plug it on different USBs? Why the f*? I do it at home in Linux all the time, I can connect the mouse to any of the USB ports. It works instantly. Why not in Windows (which idiots say it's easier)?
I can't speak to the Surface; but my work laptop, a Samsung RV511 running Win 7 Pro, has 3 USB ports. Two on the left side, and 1 on the right. I can plug something into either of the Left ports with no complaint; but if I plug that same device into the Right-hand Port, it acts like it has never seen it before. And vice-versa with something that was originally plugged into the Right-hand Port being moved over to the Left. It's a Brand New Day.
All I can think of is that those two sets of Ports are probably on two different USB Controllers (remember, this is a LAPTOP. It isn't like we're talking on-board-ports vs. ports-on-a-PCI-card), and Windows is too retarded to poke around in its own Current Configuration to see if the damned DRIVER is actually ALREADY INSTALLED. Even if it had to make a redundant copy of the Driver, at least it could do it SILENTLY, rather than acting like a horse that was approached from the wrong side (horses have no Corpus Callosum; so each hemisphere has its own visual-record and memory); IOW, it freaks out...
Say what you will about Macs and OS X, at least they don't do retarded shit like that! Glad to see Linux is also smart enough to recognize things that have been plugged in elsewhere before ON THE SAME COMPUTER.
Name a modern schematic capture/PCB layout package that runs on OSX. OrCAD, PADS/PCB, or Altium (used by Apple) all run on Windows only. There are a few, tiny hobbyist programs, but nothing mainstream that paying customers would want.
Name a 3D parametric CAD package that runs on OSX. Solidworks, NX, Creo (used by Apple) all run on Windows only. There are a few, tiny hobbyist programs, but nothing mainstream that paying customers would want.
Oh, and OSX is about 6% of the total market. That's a strong 2nd place to the ~92% Windows market share! But at least it's ahead of Linux so you go that going for you...
Nice strawman you got there! The original premise was that Mac USERS used Macs because the USERS were non-technically-adept. When I provided some anecdotal evidence in the form of several long-time Mac-using friends of mine (plus myself) who most certainly belied that stereotype, you pivot the argument to whether the MAC (not the USERS) was "incompetent" (had no available software) to use with "electrical design" work. Nice try!
But to answer your "challenge" anyway, I will say this, regarding my own experience trying to do embedded hardware and software development on Apple equipment since 1980:
Of course it has always been a challenge to find tools for electronic hardware and software design on ALL non-Windows platforms. But unless you are doing really high-end stuff, it has always been possible. And now, even some of the high-end packages are starting to come around.
One of the brightest areas comes in the form of software toolchains for embedded development. Many major microcontroller OEMs, such as Microchip, ST, Atmel, and others have released full, and fully-supported, development toolchains (one of the first being Microchip, who achieved a major headstart by purchasing the makers of Hi-Tech C compilers, which already had Mac versions of their compilers). And the list grows every year. And some people even use an Eclipse-based toolchains and even XCode to do embedded development. So actually, the software dev. side is getting pretty good at this point.
The hardware design side isn't as rosy; but it too, is gradually getting better each year.
As far as schem. Capture, simulation, and PCB design, one of the most competent packages (with the world's worst website!) is a package I personally used back in 1984 on the original 128k "toaster Mac": VAMP Inc.'s McCAD. It offers full-blown and integrated capture, simulation, PCB layout and Auto-routing modules, all of which are quite "competent", and in no-way "hobbyist" level. The pricing alone will dispel any of those allusions! As I said, don't let the amateurish website fool you: This is the real deal. I have used both OrCAD (extensively) and Altium (yes, both on Windows), and I can tell you that McCAD is easily their equal. By the way, OrCAD (and Cadence itself) is one of the nastiest, buggiest, most uneven pieces of shit I have ever used, and ultimately drove my employer at the time to switch to Altium (which I feel is only superior when compared with the POS that is OrCAD). I have only played with PCAD/PADS in demo versions, so I can't speak to them.
The other solution is Eagle, which has offered an OS X-native (Cocoa) (rather than just an X11 port) version of its integrated design package for over a decade. Although it most definitely has its roots in the hobbyist world (and still offers limited hobbyist and educational editions), it has grown into a pretty nice package (with "pro-level" pricing to match!), with some wonderfully-unique features, such as a flexible scripting language that can be used for all sorts of typical and atypical things, a lot of which would be difficult, if not impossible, on any other design suite. So don't diss Eagle.
Ask your "friends" who are doing electrical development work what OS they use. HINT: it won't be OSX...
First off, What's with the scare quotes around "friends"? I have known every single one of those people since around 1978, and we would all count each other among friends. So right off the bat, fuckyouverymuch.
And as far as your second bullshit ASSUMPTION, in some cases, you would be dead wrong. In fact, I have done embedded hardware and software design on Apple computers and OSes since around 1980. Yes, that would be on the Apple][. But then it was the Lisa, the original toaster Mac (including assemblers, plus integrated schematic capture, simulation, and PCB layout. Yes, even back in 1984), the Mac Quadra 900, the iMac, and a MacBook Pro.
To be sure, I have also had to do development using Windows-based toolchains; but there have actually always been competent toolchains and tools for both hardware and (depending on the target hardware) software development for Macs. And in fact, ever since Macs have been getting more popular, it's actually getting MUCH easier nowadays.
You need to get your head out of your ass. This is 2016, and OS X is the second-most popular computing platform on the planet. There are plenty of embedded development tools. IDEs, CAD/CAM/CAE, assemblers, compilers, debuggers. Pretty much you-name-it.
Mac Notebooks are nice, but I recall when enough of them went dead early-mid00s due to a motherboard where the expense was already enough to brick them if they were older than 3 years. Now the integration and heat issues are even tighter.
Sounds like the exact time when everyone was having the same problems, due to the (ridiculous) fast-tracked RoHS initiative, which didn't give the industry sufficient time to adjust their components and production methods to deal with the unholy lead-free solder. If you look around, I would bet you would find other manufacturers that had much the same problems at much the same time.
But my biggest with Mac is the GUI/software. I fucking hate it. Things jumping up and down and flashing at random. Shit doesn't work like I expect it. AND IT JUST DOESN'T GTFO of my way! It's not intuitive and simple things like renaming files/folders are aggravating slow - can't even tab to the next like Windows. I read a review on the bottom line difference between iOS and android and it went something like "Android makes simple things tedious and difficult things easy. iOS makes simple things simpe and difficult things impossible". When talking about messaging and torrenting on a mobile device and the like. Same thing with Mac's OS.
You are truly a dullard.
The ONLY thing that "Jumps up and down" is a Dock Icon. That can be disabled.
As far as other "Notifications", I freely admit that macOS has been getting a bit more "in your face" by default in recent years; but all, or nearly all, of that behavior is controllable, either through the GUI, or at worst, by editing a line in a simple XML preference file. Look it up. Learn something.
Shit doesn't work "as you expect it" in ANY OS that you don't bother to learn. Try out Windows' "Modern UI" for a REAL shocker!
What is so slow about Renaming a File? You're just looking for stuff, now.
And here's a Present for you: Command-TAB to rotate between active windows. Been that way for the past SIXTEEN YEARS. Do try to keep up. And Expose can be used for even more advanced window-selection.
Any more memes you'd like me to disprove/dispell/educate you on?
We have both. We came so close to getting rid of our Macs. But now there is a new influx of them. And they all need to run a VM for the software that we use that has no version that runs properly on Mac.
And EVERY time one of our Mac users does a system update (which we are not allowed to prevent) it breaks things. Most recently Sierra seems to have an issue with some of our security software which is pretty much bricking the machine.
Sounds like either you and/or your management is incompetent.
For example, do you really think you are "not allowed to prevent" a "system update", or is that by Management Decree? Because OS X/macOS has fairly fine-grained controls to control more or less exactly what "classes" of "Updates" you want, and whether you want them automatically downloaded only, automatically downloaded and installed, downloaded and installed completely under manual control, or ignored completely. A lot of corporations that are actually competent run a local Update server, which both saves bandwidth, and allows for even greater Review/Control over updates. But with your obvious bad attitude toward the entire platform, I'm sure you've never taken the initiative to look into that yourself, have you?
And the issue with your "Security Software" is that Vendor's problem, not Apple's. If there is one thing across all platforms that more or less typically "breaks things", it is most often with Security changes/updates. So, if you really had any experience, you (or someone at your organization) would have already been on the phone with your Security Software Vendor, asking when they would be patching their software, and also asking why they didn't pay attention to the Developer Pre-Release that would have allowed them to be READY for the change. So, they're incompetent as well.
And if you are running your software in a VM, that implies a "Guest" OS that isn't OS X/macOS. Perhaps some of the problems you are having are actually there. Ever think of that? Again, not Apple's fault.
Yeah, Macs are good for people that know little about computers and don't want to spent time learning about computers
Bullshit. Bullshit. BullSHIT.
Mac owners, just like Windows owners, come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and skill-levels. To suggest anything else with a product with unit sales numbering in the hundreds of millions is patently ridiculous, and just makes you sound like (yet another) mindless Hater.
I am an embedded hardware/software developer with about 40 years work experience in same. I now develop Windows Application software. I have an SQL Server Admin cert.
I have a Mac-using friend that is a EE, formerly working on military communications hardware and software, now working a AT&T doing massive database design and modernization. He has both Apple hardware and Hackintoshes he spec'ed and built himself.
I have another Mac-using friend. Worked for years at Indiana University, writing various and sundry minicomputer and mainframe applications for the University itself, mostly on their DECsystem 10 and VAX/1170 systems running VMS, etc. Also worked with me for a time as an embedded (mostly software) developer. Also liked to write a bunch in FORTH. Now works managing a multinational corporation's IT.
And there's another of my Mac-using friends. He is a degreed (EE) RF engineer, working for Ritron corporation doing embedded product design. Now he owns his own personal-trainer business, but still dabbles in hardware and software design occasionally.
Oh wait; here's another: I have a Mac-using friend who is an Ophthalmologist by trade; but has a passion for writing Python code. He has also done some embedded hardware and software dev. work on a hobbyist level. His Python-based Optometry-Office Management software is on the market. By the way, that class of software has to pass a rigorous Governmental (FDA?) Approval Process. And yes, he actually wrote most of it, with one other person.
And that's just some "technical" people I personally know, and can count as friends, that I can think of off the top of my head. And these are all people who use Macs exclusively (except for the Eye guy. He also likes Linux; but his main computer is still a Mac).
...there is virtually no reason to need non-typical computing hardware.
Therein lies the problem. Many businesses equate "typical" with "cheap" and buy $300-$400 Windows PCs. See the problem now?
IBM doesn't. And didn't. From what I have read, they purchase Lenovo-ONLY.
So, no; I don't see the problem now; unless all the Slashdotters that praise Lenovo hardware are delusional, shills, or liars (which I don't think is the case).
So how many iDildos do you currently have up your ass? Apple must pay you nicely to shill. Everything you've said demonstrates your incompetency and why you need a "my first computer" OS.
I have to Admin those 10 Windows Servers, and hold an SQL Admin cert.
I write Windows ERP Software for a living.
So I'd normally tell you to kindly blow it out your ass; but too late. You already have...
Did the company relent? Or did they continue to torture their employees?
That particular PC refresh was put on hold by Dell since the client company couldn't provide accurate data on which employee still had old workstations that needed replacement. It didn't help that they were moving whole buildings of employees around at that time. AFAIK, $1M in workstations is still sitting in a warehouse in China.
As an I.T. Support contractor, we call that job security.
And therein lies the REAL problem with the placement of Macs in the Workplace: Fear of the Computer Priesthood.
Do not even try to deny it. I have had more than one Windows Admin. tell me exactly what you said.
Oh look, I got downmodded for that entirely factual observation. How utterly predictable...
My point was that we do not know the level of technical expertise of the attacker, because their exploit was not of a technical nature.
The attack itself may not have been technical in nature; But I still submit that the attacker had to know something about "tech" to so quickly and efficiently go right to the right places to effect a rapid takeover, staying ahead of the legit user.
Calm down. This is a local exploit, so you have to control a local program to take advantage of it. Bad enough, but insignificant in the IoT context, where devices are known to have an open Telnet port with default passwords. Why go to the pain of exploiting dirty cow when you can get by by password guessing?
I did see that this was a local exploit after I wrote my initial diatribe. But as you say, this is "bad enough" as it is; so I don't really apologize.
It takes about 5 minutes to pop out a card or put in a new one.
So that's a 5 minutes of premium billed time for my PC for a problem that will turn a Mac into a doorstop.
Not on a Laptop, it isn't.
He said "MacBook". Actually, he said "Mac Pro"; but I kinda think he meant "MacBook Pro".
And there are PLENTY of Wintel DESKTOPS that have "integrated audio", where the "bad headphone jack" would require either:
Replacing the Motherboard; OR,
1. Researching a compatible/desirable audio card.
2. If online, waiting for the purchase to arrive.
3. Installing the Card (assuming there is a free slot!)
4. Installing new Drivers.
5. Downloading and installing the NEWER Drivers that actually WORK with your version of the OS.
4. Mucking about with Windows for a week, trying to get the Sound to work in this Application or that, or to get Windows to REALLY stop trying to use the old, dead (but still there!) Sound Hardware.
5. Giving up and just simply not having Sound in your favorite Game, etc.
Within 2 years, the MacPro's headphone line went out. According to Apple, fixing that requires... wait for it... a new motherboard: $500. Anectdotal of course, but three different members of the family have taken Macs in for inspection|repair, and every damned time are told "motherboard" $500+ to fix. In one case all that was *actually* required was a new power supply.
Um, those things would require a "new motherboard" on a Dell, Lenovo, HP, Acer, or any other laptop, too.
It's called "Module Level Repair", and every PC manufacturer's service centers do it. NOBODY does "Component Level" repair like that. EVENTUALLY the mobo gets onto a bench where somebody troubleshoots and repairs at that level; but that person is working on a whole stack of "defective motherboards", including yours.
Where else do you think Factory Refurbished products come from?
And for the record, I have been using Macs since they were called Lisas, and I don't think I have ever had a mobo replacement. No, I take that back. I had a PowerMac 8500 tower that mice got inside of and peed on the motherboard (don't ask!), with the expected consequences. But I simply went on eBay and in about ten minutes, found a replacement for $25 and replaced it myself in about an hour (8500's are kinda difficult to work on).
But if you're going to take your "car" to the "dealer", don't expect to have him offer to put in a junkyard starter for you...
While I agree there will always be possibility of issues with updates, it's difficult to believe it's contribution costs 3x more than a mac. I'm having a hard time remembering personally experiencing any significant issues with 20 years experience.
It's not just the updates. It's all the "every day a new problem" propensity that Windows has always had.
Don't you remember the old Haiku?
It worked yesterday.
It doesn't work today.
Windows is like that.
And my experience with my work Win 7 laptop, and the 10 or so various versions of Windows Server I have to deal with on a daily basis certainly bears that out.
Mapped Drives on my laptop that just "won't connect" one day, that have been connecting for (literally) years. Nothing fixes it but a reboot. One day I'm a Domain Admin and can do nearly anything without challenge; the next day I'm ostensibly still a Domain Admin (at least that's what AD says); but now I have to "Get Permissions" (or whatever it says) all over the place. Same Server. Same Login. Same Operations. Nothing changed except the day of the week...
I could go on and on...
Windows is a rickety, chewing-gum-and-bailing-wire-based "system". It's remarkable that it even boots three days in a row.
If the employees were given a choice between a Mac and a WinPC, I think it is reasonable to assume that they would self-sort by IQ.
When I did a PC refresh project to replace old Dell workstations with new Dell workstations, quite a few engineers wanted Macs. That drove the Dell project manager up the wall.
Good!
Did the company relent? Or did they continue to torture their employees?
What about when it's dumb users who can't even turn the systems / displays on or other stuff like can't work the web and need to call to get basic help?
When I worked at the Google IT help desk, I had to talk a recent computer scientist graduate student through the process of turning on his own workstation since no one was standing around to turn it on for him like they do at the university computer labs.
That's because a "Computer Science" degree doesn't usually teach you practical stuff. Seriously.
Why call bullshit? Macs generally require less user intervention to run, and don't have automatic updates to screw things up at inopportune times. Program installation and removal is generally much simpler.
The hardware is also of much better quality than most "enterprise" computer builds, so it would last a lot longer and not have glitches...
The only people who doubt this story are those that have never used both Windows and Mac computers extensively.
From what I understand, the way IBM deploys Macs, a technician doesn't even have to touch the machine, neither physically nor remotely.
They plop the machine down on the person's desk. When it boots up, it automatically downloads a corporate image from a NetBoot server (something OS X has supported since I think the very first version), then the User simply browses the internal Jamf "App Store" to download and install whatever Applications they require. Typical time: 10 minutes from unbox to productivity.
It seems like the User must be responsible for initial login; but most people at this point can handle entering a username and password into a login dialog, I'd imagine.
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What I find is that if common USB devices (keyboard, mouse) are not being detected and installed properly by any of the USB ports then that Windows computer typically does not have the right versions of the chipset drivers and/or the USB drivers installed. It's interesting that people here are willing to put a tonne of effort to get Linux to work but aren't willing to go through basic troubleshooting steps, such as downloading the latest drivers, to get Windows to work.
If your OS needs a Driver to provide basic functionality with a USB HID device, the problem is with the OS, sorry!
I can plug ANY random USB keyboard or Mouse into a Mac, and the MOST you will see is a "Identify this Keyboard" "Assistant" pop up the first time. And NEVER even that with a Mouse. It Just Works.
Now if you want some "Advanced"/"Non-standard" Features, THEN you will likely have to install some software; but just to get basic functionality going. NEVER.
It doesn't work. A balloon states it is searching for a driver for the mouse. What for? Does Windows have different drivers for the same mouse if we plug it on different USBs? Why the f*? I do it at home in Linux all the time, I can connect the mouse to any of the USB ports. It works instantly. Why not in Windows (which idiots say it's easier)?
I can't speak to the Surface; but my work laptop, a Samsung RV511 running Win 7 Pro, has 3 USB ports. Two on the left side, and 1 on the right. I can plug something into either of the Left ports with no complaint; but if I plug that same device into the Right-hand Port, it acts like it has never seen it before. And vice-versa with something that was originally plugged into the Right-hand Port being moved over to the Left. It's a Brand New Day.
All I can think of is that those two sets of Ports are probably on two different USB Controllers (remember, this is a LAPTOP. It isn't like we're talking on-board-ports vs. ports-on-a-PCI-card), and Windows is too retarded to poke around in its own Current Configuration to see if the damned DRIVER is actually ALREADY INSTALLED. Even if it had to make a redundant copy of the Driver, at least it could do it SILENTLY, rather than acting like a horse that was approached from the wrong side (horses have no Corpus Callosum; so each hemisphere has its own visual-record and memory); IOW, it freaks out...
Say what you will about Macs and OS X, at least they don't do retarded shit like that! Glad to see Linux is also smart enough to recognize things that have been plugged in elsewhere before ON THE SAME COMPUTER.
Name a modern schematic capture/PCB layout package that runs on OSX. OrCAD, PADS/PCB, or Altium (used by Apple) all run on Windows only. There are a few, tiny hobbyist programs, but nothing mainstream that paying customers would want.
Name a 3D parametric CAD package that runs on OSX. Solidworks, NX, Creo (used by Apple) all run on Windows only. There are a few, tiny hobbyist programs, but nothing mainstream that paying customers would want.
Oh, and OSX is about 6% of the total market. That's a strong 2nd place to the ~92% Windows market share! But at least it's ahead of Linux so you go that going for you...
Nice strawman you got there! The original premise was that Mac USERS used Macs because the USERS were non-technically-adept. When I provided some anecdotal evidence in the form of several long-time Mac-using friends of mine (plus myself) who most certainly belied that stereotype, you pivot the argument to whether the MAC (not the USERS) was "incompetent" (had no available software) to use with "electrical design" work. Nice try!
But to answer your "challenge" anyway, I will say this, regarding my own experience trying to do embedded hardware and software development on Apple equipment since 1980:
Of course it has always been a challenge to find tools for electronic hardware and software design on ALL non-Windows platforms. But unless you are doing really high-end stuff, it has always been possible. And now, even some of the high-end packages are starting to come around.
One of the brightest areas comes in the form of software toolchains for embedded development. Many major microcontroller OEMs, such as Microchip, ST, Atmel, and others have released full, and fully-supported, development toolchains (one of the first being Microchip, who achieved a major headstart by purchasing the makers of Hi-Tech C compilers, which already had Mac versions of their compilers). And the list grows every year. And some people even use an Eclipse-based toolchains and even XCode to do embedded development. So actually, the software dev. side is getting pretty good at this point.
The hardware design side isn't as rosy; but it too, is gradually getting better each year.
As far as schem. Capture, simulation, and PCB design, one of the most competent packages (with the world's worst website!) is a package I personally used back in 1984 on the original 128k "toaster Mac": VAMP Inc.'s McCAD. It offers full-blown and integrated capture, simulation, PCB layout and Auto-routing modules, all of which are quite "competent", and in no-way "hobbyist" level. The pricing alone will dispel any of those allusions! As I said, don't let the amateurish website fool you: This is the real deal. I have used both OrCAD (extensively) and Altium (yes, both on Windows), and I can tell you that McCAD is easily their equal. By the way, OrCAD (and Cadence itself) is one of the nastiest, buggiest, most uneven pieces of shit I have ever used, and ultimately drove my employer at the time to switch to Altium (which I feel is only superior when compared with the POS that is OrCAD). I have only played with PCAD/PADS in demo versions, so I can't speak to them.
The other solution is Eagle, which has offered an OS X-native (Cocoa) (rather than just an X11 port) version of its integrated design package for over a decade. Although it most definitely has its roots in the hobbyist world (and still offers limited hobbyist and educational editions), it has grown into a pretty nice package (with "pro-level" pricing to match!), with some wonderfully-unique features, such as a flexible scripting language that can be used for all sorts of typical and atypical things, a lot of which would be difficult, if not impossible, on any other design suite. So don't diss Eagle.
As far as CAD/CAM
Ask your "friends" who are doing electrical development work what OS they use. HINT: it won't be OSX...
First off, What's with the scare quotes around "friends"? I have known every single one of those people since around 1978, and we would all count each other among friends. So right off the bat, fuckyouverymuch.
And as far as your second bullshit ASSUMPTION, in some cases, you would be dead wrong. In fact, I have done embedded hardware and software design on Apple computers and OSes since around 1980. Yes, that would be on the Apple][. But then it was the Lisa, the original toaster Mac (including assemblers, plus integrated schematic capture, simulation, and PCB layout. Yes, even back in 1984), the Mac Quadra 900, the iMac, and a MacBook Pro.
To be sure, I have also had to do development using Windows-based toolchains; but there have actually always been competent toolchains and tools for both hardware and (depending on the target hardware) software development for Macs. And in fact, ever since Macs have been getting more popular, it's actually getting MUCH easier nowadays.
You need to get your head out of your ass. This is 2016, and OS X is the second-most popular computing platform on the planet. There are plenty of embedded development tools. IDEs, CAD/CAM/CAE, assemblers, compilers, debuggers. Pretty much you-name-it.
Oh look, I got downmodded for that entirely factual observation. How utterly predictable...
What did you expect from offending the computer priesthood? No more computer time for you!
Exactly!
Selection bias.
The sort of person who is going to demand a Mac will be the sort of person who doesn't need as much support.
Same as people who use alternative web browsers -- if you know enough to care, you are probably the sort of person who doesn't need help.
The data is only relevant if the people getting Mac and the people who get PC are chosen at random.
IBM's HUGE sample size swamps out all that bullshit.
But thanks for playing!
Mac Notebooks are nice, but I recall when enough of them went dead early-mid00s due to a motherboard where the expense was already enough to brick them if they were older than 3 years. Now the integration and heat issues are even tighter.
Sounds like the exact time when everyone was having the same problems, due to the (ridiculous) fast-tracked RoHS initiative, which didn't give the industry sufficient time to adjust their components and production methods to deal with the unholy lead-free solder. If you look around, I would bet you would find other manufacturers that had much the same problems at much the same time.
But my biggest with Mac is the GUI/software. I fucking hate it. Things jumping up and down and flashing at random. Shit doesn't work like I expect it. AND IT JUST DOESN'T GTFO of my way! It's not intuitive and simple things like renaming files/folders are aggravating slow - can't even tab to the next like Windows. I read a review on the bottom line difference between iOS and android and it went something like "Android makes simple things tedious and difficult things easy. iOS makes simple things simpe and difficult things impossible". When talking about messaging and torrenting on a mobile device and the like. Same thing with Mac's OS.
You are truly a dullard.
The ONLY thing that "Jumps up and down" is a Dock Icon. That can be disabled.
As far as other "Notifications", I freely admit that macOS has been getting a bit more "in your face" by default in recent years; but all, or nearly all, of that behavior is controllable, either through the GUI, or at worst, by editing a line in a simple XML preference file. Look it up. Learn something.
Shit doesn't work "as you expect it" in ANY OS that you don't bother to learn. Try out Windows' "Modern UI" for a REAL shocker!
What is so slow about Renaming a File? You're just looking for stuff, now.
And here's a Present for you: Command-TAB to rotate between active windows. Been that way for the past SIXTEEN YEARS. Do try to keep up. And Expose can be used for even more advanced window-selection.
Any more memes you'd like me to disprove/dispell/educate you on?
Moron. Hater Moron at that.
We have both. We came so close to getting rid of our Macs. But now there is a new influx of them. And they all need to run a VM for the software that we use that has no version that runs properly on Mac.
And EVERY time one of our Mac users does a system update (which we are not allowed to prevent) it breaks things. Most recently Sierra seems to have an issue with some of our security software which is pretty much bricking the machine.
Sounds like either you and/or your management is incompetent.
For example, do you really think you are "not allowed to prevent" a "system update", or is that by Management Decree? Because OS X/macOS has fairly fine-grained controls to control more or less exactly what "classes" of "Updates" you want, and whether you want them automatically downloaded only, automatically downloaded and installed, downloaded and installed completely under manual control, or ignored completely. A lot of corporations that are actually competent run a local Update server, which both saves bandwidth, and allows for even greater Review/Control over updates. But with your obvious bad attitude toward the entire platform, I'm sure you've never taken the initiative to look into that yourself, have you?
And the issue with your "Security Software" is that Vendor's problem, not Apple's. If there is one thing across all platforms that more or less typically "breaks things", it is most often with Security changes/updates. So, if you really had any experience, you (or someone at your organization) would have already been on the phone with your Security Software Vendor, asking when they would be patching their software, and also asking why they didn't pay attention to the Developer Pre-Release that would have allowed them to be READY for the change. So, they're incompetent as well.
And if you are running your software in a VM, that implies a "Guest" OS that isn't OS X/macOS. Perhaps some of the problems you are having are actually there. Ever think of that? Again, not Apple's fault.
Yeah, Macs are good for people that know little about computers and don't want to spent time learning about computers
Bullshit. Bullshit. BullSHIT.
Mac owners, just like Windows owners, come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and skill-levels. To suggest anything else with a product with unit sales numbering in the hundreds of millions is patently ridiculous, and just makes you sound like (yet another) mindless Hater.
I am an embedded hardware/software developer with about 40 years work experience in same. I now develop Windows Application software. I have an SQL Server Admin cert.
I have a Mac-using friend that is a EE, formerly working on military communications hardware and software, now working a AT&T doing massive database design and modernization. He has both Apple hardware and Hackintoshes he spec'ed and built himself.
I have another Mac-using friend. Worked for years at Indiana University, writing various and sundry minicomputer and mainframe applications for the University itself, mostly on their DECsystem 10 and VAX/1170 systems running VMS, etc. Also worked with me for a time as an embedded (mostly software) developer. Also liked to write a bunch in FORTH. Now works managing a multinational corporation's IT.
And there's another of my Mac-using friends. He is a degreed (EE) RF engineer, working for Ritron corporation doing embedded product design. Now he owns his own personal-trainer business, but still dabbles in hardware and software design occasionally.
Oh wait; here's another: I have a Mac-using friend who is an Ophthalmologist by trade; but has a passion for writing Python code. He has also done some embedded hardware and software dev. work on a hobbyist level. His Python-based Optometry-Office Management software is on the market. By the way, that class of software has to pass a rigorous Governmental (FDA?) Approval Process. And yes, he actually wrote most of it, with one other person.
And that's just some "technical" people I personally know, and can count as friends, that I can think of off the top of my head. And these are all people who use Macs exclusively (except for the Eye guy. He also likes Linux; but his main computer is still a Mac).
...there is virtually no reason to need non-typical computing hardware.
Therein lies the problem. Many businesses equate "typical" with "cheap" and buy $300-$400 Windows PCs. See the problem now?
IBM doesn't. And didn't. From what I have read, they purchase Lenovo-ONLY.
So, no; I don't see the problem now; unless all the Slashdotters that praise Lenovo hardware are delusional, shills, or liars (which I don't think is the case).
So how many iDildos do you currently have up your ass? Apple must pay you nicely to shill. Everything you've said demonstrates your incompetency and why you need a "my first computer" OS.
I have to Admin those 10 Windows Servers, and hold an SQL Admin cert.
I write Windows ERP Software for a living.
So I'd normally tell you to kindly blow it out your ass; but too late. You already have...
Did the company relent? Or did they continue to torture their employees?
That particular PC refresh was put on hold by Dell since the client company couldn't provide accurate data on which employee still had old workstations that needed replacement. It didn't help that they were moving whole buildings of employees around at that time. AFAIK, $1M in workstations is still sitting in a warehouse in China.
Now THAT sounds ENTIRELY believable, LOL!!!
As an I.T. Support contractor, we call that job security.
And therein lies the REAL problem with the placement of Macs in the Workplace: Fear of the Computer Priesthood. Do not even try to deny it. I have had more than one Windows Admin. tell me exactly what you said.
Oh look, I got downmodded for that entirely factual observation. How utterly predictable...
My point was that we do not know the level of technical expertise of the attacker, because their exploit was not of a technical nature.
The attack itself may not have been technical in nature; But I still submit that the attacker had to know something about "tech" to so quickly and efficiently go right to the right places to effect a rapid takeover, staying ahead of the legit user.
Calm down. This is a local exploit, so you have to control a local program to take advantage of it. Bad enough, but insignificant in the IoT context, where devices are known to have an open Telnet port with default passwords. Why go to the pain of exploiting dirty cow when you can get by by password guessing?
I did see that this was a local exploit after I wrote my initial diatribe. But as you say, this is "bad enough" as it is; so I don't really apologize.
It takes about 5 minutes to pop out a card or put in a new one.
So that's a 5 minutes of premium billed time for my PC for a problem that will turn a Mac into a doorstop.
Not on a Laptop, it isn't.
He said "MacBook". Actually, he said "Mac Pro"; but I kinda think he meant "MacBook Pro".
And there are PLENTY of Wintel DESKTOPS that have "integrated audio", where the "bad headphone jack" would require either:
Replacing the Motherboard; OR,
1. Researching a compatible/desirable audio card.
2. If online, waiting for the purchase to arrive.
3. Installing the Card (assuming there is a free slot!)
4. Installing new Drivers.
5. Downloading and installing the NEWER Drivers that actually WORK with your version of the OS.
4. Mucking about with Windows for a week, trying to get the Sound to work in this Application or that, or to get Windows to REALLY stop trying to use the old, dead (but still there!) Sound Hardware.
5. Giving up and just simply not having Sound in your favorite Game, etc.
Yeah, a real time and frustration-saver.
Been there. Done that. Know the difference...
My own time I defiantly consider to be worth more than $0.
No need to be Defiant. We're (mostly) all friends here!
;-)
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Within 2 years, the MacPro's headphone line went out. According to Apple, fixing that requires... wait for it... a new motherboard: $500. Anectdotal of course, but three different members of the family have taken Macs in for inspection|repair, and every damned time are told "motherboard" $500+ to fix. In one case all that was *actually* required was a new power supply.
Um, those things would require a "new motherboard" on a Dell, Lenovo, HP, Acer, or any other laptop, too.
It's called "Module Level Repair", and every PC manufacturer's service centers do it. NOBODY does "Component Level" repair like that. EVENTUALLY the mobo gets onto a bench where somebody troubleshoots and repairs at that level; but that person is working on a whole stack of "defective motherboards", including yours.
Where else do you think Factory Refurbished products come from?
And for the record, I have been using Macs since they were called Lisas, and I don't think I have ever had a mobo replacement. No, I take that back. I had a PowerMac 8500 tower that mice got inside of and peed on the motherboard (don't ask!), with the expected consequences. But I simply went on eBay and in about ten minutes, found a replacement for $25 and replaced it myself in about an hour (8500's are kinda difficult to work on).
But if you're going to take your "car" to the "dealer", don't expect to have him offer to put in a junkyard starter for you...
While I agree there will always be possibility of issues with updates, it's difficult to believe it's contribution costs 3x more than a mac. I'm having a hard time remembering personally experiencing any significant issues with 20 years experience.
It's not just the updates. It's all the "every day a new problem" propensity that Windows has always had.
Don't you remember the old Haiku?
It worked yesterday.
It doesn't work today.
Windows is like that.
And my experience with my work Win 7 laptop, and the 10 or so various versions of Windows Server I have to deal with on a daily basis certainly bears that out.
Mapped Drives on my laptop that just "won't connect" one day, that have been connecting for (literally) years. Nothing fixes it but a reboot. One day I'm a Domain Admin and can do nearly anything without challenge; the next day I'm ostensibly still a Domain Admin (at least that's what AD says); but now I have to "Get Permissions" (or whatever it says) all over the place. Same Server. Same Login. Same Operations. Nothing changed except the day of the week...
I could go on and on...
Windows is a rickety, chewing-gum-and-bailing-wire-based "system". It's remarkable that it even boots three days in a row.
If the employees were given a choice between a Mac and a WinPC, I think it is reasonable to assume that they would self-sort by IQ.
When I did a PC refresh project to replace old Dell workstations with new Dell workstations, quite a few engineers wanted Macs. That drove the Dell project manager up the wall.
Good!
Did the company relent? Or did they continue to torture their employees?
oddly enough, I support mixed mac/win environments, and find the issues to be roughly equal. both systems have their WTF issues, that are different.
You are an outlier.
Or just a plain liar.
Yes, companies tend to buy crap quality Windows computers and then complain they suck
While I agree with you, we're talking about IBM here, and they apparently only (or most often) buy Lenovo hardware.
What about when it's dumb users who can't even turn the systems / displays on or other stuff like can't work the web and need to call to get basic help?
When I worked at the Google IT help desk, I had to talk a recent computer scientist graduate student through the process of turning on his own workstation since no one was standing around to turn it on for him like they do at the university computer labs.
That's because a "Computer Science" degree doesn't usually teach you practical stuff. Seriously.
Why call bullshit? Macs generally require less user intervention to run, and don't have automatic updates to screw things up at inopportune times. Program installation and removal is generally much simpler.
The hardware is also of much better quality than most "enterprise" computer builds, so it would last a lot longer and not have glitches...
The only people who doubt this story are those that have never used both Windows and Mac computers extensively.
From what I understand, the way IBM deploys Macs, a technician doesn't even have to touch the machine, neither physically nor remotely.
They plop the machine down on the person's desk. When it boots up, it automatically downloads a corporate image from a NetBoot server (something OS X has supported since I think the very first version), then the User simply browses the internal Jamf "App Store" to download and install whatever Applications they require. Typical time: 10 minutes from unbox to productivity.
It seems like the User must be responsible for initial login; but most people at this point can handle entering a username and password into a login dialog, I'd imagine.
If 40% of his windows machines needed help desk support then his organization is doing something seriously wrong.
Yes, and the problem lies in Redmond.
(You walked right into that one)...