One of the few times I've broken my "third party rule" is to vote for Clinton. He was an effective politician and genuinely seemed to have our best interests at heart. He's the only president I've ever voted for that won. I am not sure what that says except that I generally vote third party.
He has been an excellent ex-president. Far better than as a sitting president. That's an oddity. I kind of like the guy now, also home brewers should thank him.
I am six other people actually liked ME. *sighs* I can't believe I just admitted that on/. but it is true. There are seven of us. We're a cabal, or something... If you had the right hardware, the right install date, sacrificed the appropriate amount of black chickens, and burned the right number of candles (it also helps if Mars is in retrograde) it was an awesome OS for its day.
Very few times have I had a drive crash without some sort of advance warning. Unfortunately, I'm usually really good at spotting that warning after the drive had crashed. "Oh yeah, I had been making a chunking noise."
That argument is tired and old. It's partially correct though twisted in such a manner that makes it incorrect AS I UNDERSTAND IT. (Note capitalization - it means that's the important bit.) One of the best was a history professor who actually tore into that argument while he and I were enjoying a relaxing afternoon being eaten by bugs and fishing. So it wasn't in a truly academic environment.
Anyhow, it was - very much so - about slavery but to think that slavery is the only reason is to do a disservice to history itself. You're attempting to pin it down to a single cause or seemingly fighting a straw man that claims slavery is the only cause. I'm a history aficionado but did not major in it or even minor in it. I did take lots of electives (which is why I capitalized the above part of my sentence) but this was back while history was still current events.;) To make a long story short, I'm unable to think of any war in the past few hundred years where you can narrow the reason for it down to a single goal.
Anyhow, slavery was indeed a very important part of the American Civil War. Judging by the way you speak about it, do you call it the War of Northern Aggression? The revisionism is strong and strikes a lot of people as being a good answer - I've seen your argument put forth by people who would normally be seen as quite the history buffs and quite intelligent people.
If you'll accept Wikipedia as a citation...
"The American Civil War (1861–1865) started as a war to prevent the literal segregation of the North and South, but it soon became a fight of the eradication of the institution of slavery."
Slavery was not the only reason but it was one of the reasons and a very important reason (more so as the war turned into something we certainly weren't expecting - we were expecting it to be over very quickly and with very little bloodshed) especially when it was seen how violent it was going to be and how long it was going to last. Like pretty much all wars (I'm still having trouble thinking of a war that was just for a single reason) there are many complex reasons for it. Trying to claim it wasn't for slavery does yourself a disservice and is attempting to revise history.
Oh - wait... Hmm... I think maybe some of Israel's wars could be narrowed down to a very broad single reason of "ensuring state safety." However, I'm pretty sure revenge, power projection, and making political statements could also be reasons but we could wrap those up in "ensuring state safety" and kind of, sort of, get away with it? Can you think of any in recent years?
I did not know they had a good glide rate but I had watched a few documentaries over the years that showed some different models that had ejection methods for helicopters. I guess gliding makes sense as it takes time for the rotors to spin down.
Hmm... I knew they had 'em but thought they went sideways. I'm not so thrilled about the idea of going up through the rotors but I'm sure they've mastered it. I wonder why it is nor more common?
While rare, ejection seats for helicopters aren't entirely unheard of. I'm too lazy to look it up but IIRC there are some Russian helicopters that have them. I believe the most common design is rocket powered and launches the pilot out sideways and away from the aircraft.
What amused me most was all the people declaring they were going to emigrate to Europe because of the domestic spying. I really do have some stupid fellow countrymen.
I don't think I'd have much respect for the intelligence of those who emigrate to Europe as they have a much longer and more egregious history of spying on their citizens. It is routine for them to bomb each other into rubble every couple of generations as well. The idea that Europe is, somehow, better is kind of absurd and based on fairy tales instead of reality. I think it is a matter of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence but I'm not a psychologist so I don't dare make an authoritative statement about it. Either way, no... Europe is probably not the place to go if you fear government overreach. They will engage in attempts to take over the continent and eliminate certain unfavored groups of people again and probably sooner than what you're thinking. It's what they do. The last attempt from the continent's denizens was not that long ago (and no, not so far back as WWII either) and the next will be surely be soon. History repeats itself for a reason.
I have been sitting, staring at your post, and thinking for the better part of an hour now. Drawn, perhaps, like a moth to a bug zapper.
I am not sure that Science and Engineering (and I'm an EE) can not, in practice, be learned on the job. With a decent level of high school educational background, the fundamentals understood, and the availability of information that we have today, it seems like this could be done. If we stop and think about it, really, these things have been pretty much learned on the job before - it is how they were created. If we think about it, and they're not doing the same thing over and over again (which, too could be), they're constantly learning on the job all the time.
So, I'm stuck... I don't really know or anything but I've given it more thought than it deserves. It seems to me that the practical application can be learned on the job and the developed skills and sufficient motivation can move someone up the educational ladder. I am envisioning an apprentice-type of program and I don't think it is impossible but I believe it is legally prevented in most cases.
I don't want to turn this into a novella so I won't but I do feel compelled to chime in that I don't think that it would be impossible to accomplish OTJ training for the fields at, at least, the practical levels. I think advancement from there may also be possible without the traditional academia setting.
One of the few times I've broken my "third party rule" is to vote for Clinton. He was an effective politician and genuinely seemed to have our best interests at heart. He's the only president I've ever voted for that won. I am not sure what that says except that I generally vote third party.
He has been an excellent ex-president. Far better than as a sitting president. That's an oddity. I kind of like the guy now, also home brewers should thank him.
I am six other people actually liked ME. *sighs* I can't believe I just admitted that on /. but it is true. There are seven of us. We're a cabal, or something... If you had the right hardware, the right install date, sacrificed the appropriate amount of black chickens, and burned the right number of candles (it also helps if Mars is in retrograde) it was an awesome OS for its day.
Very few times have I had a drive crash without some sort of advance warning. Unfortunately, I'm usually really good at spotting that warning after the drive had crashed. "Oh yeah, I had been making a chunking noise."
You put copies of your private keys on them??? Seriously? Umm... Why? They're PRIVATE for a reason you know.
I'm hoping that I'm just not getting something. I'm hoping that there's something missing and that I'm not getting it.
I opened this thread hoping to read comments and memories about dumb terminals.
I'm a half black man. I don't have much/any sympathy for you. It seems that even in picking sides to fight for they made a wrong choice.
Hah! Good catch, that's one I don't usually mess up. *sighs* It's bound to happen to all of us eventually.
We could easily find agreement there.
That argument is tired and old. It's partially correct though twisted in such a manner that makes it incorrect AS I UNDERSTAND IT. (Note capitalization - it means that's the important bit.) One of the best was a history professor who actually tore into that argument while he and I were enjoying a relaxing afternoon being eaten by bugs and fishing. So it wasn't in a truly academic environment.
Anyhow, it was - very much so - about slavery but to think that slavery is the only reason is to do a disservice to history itself. You're attempting to pin it down to a single cause or seemingly fighting a straw man that claims slavery is the only cause. I'm a history aficionado but did not major in it or even minor in it. I did take lots of electives (which is why I capitalized the above part of my sentence) but this was back while history was still current events. ;) To make a long story short, I'm unable to think of any war in the past few hundred years where you can narrow the reason for it down to a single goal.
Anyhow, slavery was indeed a very important part of the American Civil War. Judging by the way you speak about it, do you call it the War of Northern Aggression? The revisionism is strong and strikes a lot of people as being a good answer - I've seen your argument put forth by people who would normally be seen as quite the history buffs and quite intelligent people.
If you'll accept Wikipedia as a citation...
"The American Civil War (1861–1865) started as a war to prevent the literal segregation of the North and South, but it soon became a fight of the eradication of the institution of slavery."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaves_and_the_American_Civil_War
Slavery was not the only reason but it was one of the reasons and a very important reason (more so as the war turned into something we certainly weren't expecting - we were expecting it to be over very quickly and with very little bloodshed) especially when it was seen how violent it was going to be and how long it was going to last. Like pretty much all wars (I'm still having trouble thinking of a war that was just for a single reason) there are many complex reasons for it. Trying to claim it wasn't for slavery does yourself a disservice and is attempting to revise history.
Oh - wait... Hmm... I think maybe some of Israel's wars could be narrowed down to a very broad single reason of "ensuring state safety." However, I'm pretty sure revenge, power projection, and making political statements could also be reasons but we could wrap those up in "ensuring state safety" and kind of, sort of, get away with it? Can you think of any in recent years?
Yes, our principles are indeed our suicide pact. I can think of nothing greater to die for. I'd rather die for them then live without them.
I did not know they had a good glide rate but I had watched a few documentaries over the years that showed some different models that had ejection methods for helicopters. I guess gliding makes sense as it takes time for the rotors to spin down.
Hmm... I knew they had 'em but thought they went sideways. I'm not so thrilled about the idea of going up through the rotors but I'm sure they've mastered it. I wonder why it is nor more common?
Thanks - I knew they had 'em but I thought they blew 'em sideways. I think I'd rather go sideways actually - or maybe in a capsule type of deal.
While rare, ejection seats for helicopters aren't entirely unheard of. I'm too lazy to look it up but IIRC there are some Russian helicopters that have them. I believe the most common design is rocket powered and launches the pilot out sideways and away from the aircraft.
I'm sure they spy on their citizens too.
Derp... You think any one of them doesn't do similar? If you don't know about it, they're hiding it well.
Classifying people based on their nationality? You really are German, aren't you?
What amused me most was all the people declaring they were going to emigrate to Europe because of the domestic spying. I really do have some stupid fellow countrymen.
I, too, recall this study. I think I learned of it from a link at Fark.com. Anyhow, here ya go:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0058579
I believe that is it.
Well, you proved my point nicely. Thanks. I don't think I could have asked for a better demonstration.
I don't think I'd have much respect for the intelligence of those who emigrate to Europe as they have a much longer and more egregious history of spying on their citizens. It is routine for them to bomb each other into rubble every couple of generations as well. The idea that Europe is, somehow, better is kind of absurd and based on fairy tales instead of reality. I think it is a matter of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence but I'm not a psychologist so I don't dare make an authoritative statement about it. Either way, no... Europe is probably not the place to go if you fear government overreach. They will engage in attempts to take over the continent and eliminate certain unfavored groups of people again and probably sooner than what you're thinking. It's what they do. The last attempt from the continent's denizens was not that long ago (and no, not so far back as WWII either) and the next will be surely be soon. History repeats itself for a reason.
Facts have a way of ruining outrage. They're often ignored in favor of maintaining said outraged position.
That's funny. I don't know anybody like that. Not one.
I have been sitting, staring at your post, and thinking for the better part of an hour now. Drawn, perhaps, like a moth to a bug zapper.
I am not sure that Science and Engineering (and I'm an EE) can not, in practice, be learned on the job. With a decent level of high school educational background, the fundamentals understood, and the availability of information that we have today, it seems like this could be done. If we stop and think about it, really, these things have been pretty much learned on the job before - it is how they were created. If we think about it, and they're not doing the same thing over and over again (which, too could be), they're constantly learning on the job all the time.
So, I'm stuck... I don't really know or anything but I've given it more thought than it deserves. It seems to me that the practical application can be learned on the job and the developed skills and sufficient motivation can move someone up the educational ladder. I am envisioning an apprentice-type of program and I don't think it is impossible but I believe it is legally prevented in most cases.
I don't want to turn this into a novella so I won't but I do feel compelled to chime in that I don't think that it would be impossible to accomplish OTJ training for the fields at, at least, the practical levels. I think advancement from there may also be possible without the traditional academia setting.
The picture seems (to me) to indicate that it is in the water?