The parent post is wrong IMHO but why Troll? I bet a lot of people took it this way. Can someone with mod points mod the parent up so that this viewpoint (and the valid responses countering it) can be seen?
The advantage of Android is that an app doesn't NEED to be in the marketplace. It's a simple thing to just uncheck a box and then you can download and install apps the old fashioned way that aren't in the marketplace all you want. It's your hardware, you can install what you want. The marketplace is still Google's marketplace. If you have a website I wouldn't expect you to post something on YOUR website just because I wanted it there. I don't see how a marketplace is any different.
Yes, iPhone users can do this after jail-breaking. Android users don't have to root their phones just to install software from outside the marketplace. We only have to root it to do things like tethering which the carriers either insist be removed or try to charge extra for.
A good point but parent post did say that they were not actually cured. Presumably they would have still suffered that fate anyway though maybe not as soon.
Given the possibilities I think they could have done much worse.
They could have arrived at 'Earth' and it is nothing like the Earth of this universe. That one is pretty open ended and would allow them to go just about anywhere with the story but I think it would be really unsatisfying if Earth is not Earth. The story promises to 'include us' from the beginning. I thought they were going with thie ending with Cylon Earth and was disappointed until I got to the actual ending.
They could have arrived at contemporary Earth. Sorry, that would have sucked even more. We aren't equipped to battle Cylons! Can you imagine an episode with Admiral Adama addressing the United Nations? How could that not suck? Or.. the Cylons could show up and they run off to lead them away. It would have been BSG 1980 all over again.
They never find Earth... this is the story that never ends... they just keep looking forever... yawn... canceled without a conclusion for sure!
They settle somewhere else. What happened to Earth? Is their Earth our Earth? Very unsatisfying!
Everybody dies! Or.. Cylons win, all humans die! Call me sappy but I like happy endings. I'm sure the emo generation and whiny depressed people are tipping the scales the other way but I think we are still in the majority. That ending would have pissed me off.
The ending they actually went with... Cheesy but beats all the others.
No, the ending wasn't great but come on... this story wasn't going to have a great ending. It just doesn't support one. They sure did beat how the original BSG ended though!
It's ridiculous that something like this could even be patented in the first place. Routers existed. Wireless existed. How obvious is a wireless router?
If this ever caught on all it would do is make the 900mhz band so crowded as to be useless and still not even take a significant number of cellular users off the existing networks.
How will they retire if they can't collect royalties? What will their families use for food if they don't continue to get royalties until 100 years after the engineers are dead?
So you all email word documents back and forth. you aren't just sending information one way, A sends it to B, B adds something and sends it back to A, A adds more and sends it back? Really?
What if A wants to add something more but B hasn't sent it back yet? If A just adds it right away then A has to carefully read both copies once B does send it back to merge the changes. Isn't that very tedious and error prone?
What if A sends the document to both B and C. Then both B and C send it back with changes. Now A has to read 2 or 3 copies very carefully and merge the changes.
Meanwhile does one remove all the old copies? Do they always get saved in the same folders in an organized way? After going away and working on something else for a while is it always remembered or clear to see what the state of each copy is?
I see all of these problems just in my own office, we are only collaborating with each other! This is how it was when I got there, that is how it's always been. I've installed a wiki on our server and intend to bring it up one of these days as an alternative to the mess. Maybe it will be a big fail and an eye opener for me as to why this doesn't work. I really can't believe things will get any worse than they are though. Fortunately everyone I have to deal with has used a web browser before and even filled out web forms. A wiki shouldn't be that new for them. (ha ha ha my last words maybe)
I do get the 'this is how it is everywhere and I have to work with others' thing. It hasn't always been that way though. At one point it was papers in the mail! Things have changed before. Will they change again? 1000 years from now will people be emailing files written in MSOffice v. and merging changes? I don't think so. How about 100 years? 10 years? 1 year? If it is bound to change why not start today?
I believed the 'no desire to learn something new' argument until Microsoft came out with the ribbon. One thing I learned from that is that I MYSELF HAVE NO DESIRE TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
I find moving from one office suite to another with fairly 'normal' File/Edit/View/etc... menus at the top to be pretty easy. It could be MSOffice, OO or even WordPerfect (back in the day). They just aren't that different! Now I can accept the idea that people less interested in computers or technologically inclined might not find this as easy. I still find the ribbon to be a big PITA though and I would think that someone who previously learned the old, sane menus but wasn't the kind to just pick up new but similar software easily would find such a radical change to be even more trouble than I do.
I suppose if you are a very basic user and only need the few functions that are placed out front, easy to see by the ribbon then it might actually be easier to learn up front. Still, if the mantra is everybody already had learned the old MSOffice and weren't interested in learning something new then existing office employees should have found OO much easier to transition to than an MSOffice upgrade.
Since this didn't happen my conclusion is that the real reasons have more to do with blind name recognition, a belief that the world is already Microsoft and things can't or shouldn't ever change mixed with a bit of corporate fear of anything free.
That's just my opinion based only on my own experiences of course.
Personally, I just write documents in OO and then export them to pdf if I am sending them somewhere. I've never had a problem this way. I suppose this is a problem if you want the recipient to be able to edit the document but why would you want that? If it is a collaborative work then an office suite is the wrong tool for the job. I have worked in places where this is done. It is horrible regardless of the office suite. Two people editing a document at the same time means one writes over the other's changes. Or, you end up with multiple versions of the same document scattered about the network drives. Worse yet they may be on the hard drives of different people's PCs. Before long no one knows which is the latest version or where it is. In all probability there is no latest version because no one document has everybody's changes in it. If you collaborate using an office suite then you need to first, slap yourself across the face twice (once per cheek). Then do it again harder. Harder again. Again!! Now, go get a wiki. If you must use Windows Server it now has a nice automatic server installer (looks like a Linux package manager) which will set one up for you with just a couple of clicks. Of course if you care at all about security Windows isn't allowed anywhere near your place of business anyway. There are Linux distro's that have similar easy methods for installing web tools including Wikis. With either OS just keep it behind the firewall, preferably on a NAT if you don't have an expert to configure the security settings.
Maybe OO doesn't have all the features you need which Microsoft Office does?
WTF kind of document are you creating anyway? Either one has 1000 times the features I ever want to learn for creating office documents. Maybe you are creating some kind of fancy art or advertising posters? Shouldn't you be using a publishing program? You probably learned Word back in grade school and have stuck with what you know. You probably put lots of work into learning to bend Word to do what you need it to do. It was hard and you don't want to go through all that work again just to switch programs. It was hard for a reason! It wasn't made for what you do. Go find a program that is and it won't be as difficult to learn in the first place plus you will probably put out a better product in the end. There is this saying, 'If the only tool you know is a hammer then everything looks like a nail'. Well... stop hammering in those screws!
Maybe you prefer MSOffice's user interface?
You must be on an old version from before they got the ribbon. Good for you! You realized that there is no reason to shell out your money every couple of years on the upgrade cycle if it isn't going to clearly make you more money back. Enjoy your savings! Some day though, when your hardware finally dies as it eventually does you will find that you can't buy that version of MSOffice anymore. The new versions use this awful ribbon thing which will be like starting from scratch to re-learn over again and will never allow you to be as efficient as you once were even after you know it well. Open Office on the other hand really isn't laid out that different from what you are used to. You will have to learn a bit if you switch to Open Office but trust me it will go better than dealing with that @#$ ribbon.
No, you really do use and love the ribbon?
I'm sorry I have nothing for you. At least nothing to say regarding computer software anyway. I do have some very important words of wisdom for you though. CRACK IS BAD!!! DON'T DO ANY MORE CRACK!!! And please, wear long sleeve shirts. The tracks are creeping me out. Now go away and don't come back until you have had a bath. You reek of crack and BO.
Microsoft won't die. It will lose it's monopoly power though. Microsoft will eventually be just one company among many. This has been slowly happening ever since Bill Gates left. I can't wait until Steve Jobs also retires. Maybe then there will be companies focusing on selling products instead of selling brands. Or... just new big brands with crappy products will take their places. I guess time will tell.
I could see Korea or Iran doing this 20-30 years from now just to piss the US off. China might even be a contender for that... they would certainly have the capability quicker though they might be a little too diplomatic to go there. Not that diplomatic though given the weather satellite they blew up. (Yes the US did that too but at least they picked one in a orbit where the debris would fall to Earth rather than create long term shrapnel)
Jupiter/Saturn flybys... ok. Those probably deserve some mention
Skylab? ISS? If Skylab gets any mention it needs to include 'Skylab dropped into the sea practically unused'. Honestly I wouldn't include either in that timeline. Public awareness comes from doing something which is either a big step forward or blowing people up. We did low Earth orbit with project Mercury. The ISS is stuck in low Earth orbit. The rovers are great but we had probes on Mars some time ago too.
Yes, Apollo was a good solid brand but I wouldn't want to see it re-used any time soon.
Then all the little kiddies who think going back to a capsule after 30 years of winged craft that could do no better than low Earth orbit would REALLY get annoying with their 70s technology cracks.
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The parent post is wrong IMHO but why Troll? I bet a lot of people took it this way. Can someone with mod points mod the parent up so that this viewpoint (and the valid responses countering it) can be seen?
The advantage of Android is that an app doesn't NEED to be in the marketplace. It's a simple thing to just uncheck a box and then you can download and install apps the old fashioned way that aren't in the marketplace all you want. It's your hardware, you can install what you want. The marketplace is still Google's marketplace. If you have a website I wouldn't expect you to post something on YOUR website just because I wanted it there. I don't see how a marketplace is any different. Yes, iPhone users can do this after jail-breaking. Android users don't have to root their phones just to install software from outside the marketplace. We only have to root it to do things like tethering which the carriers either insist be removed or try to charge extra for.
A good point but parent post did say that they were not actually cured. Presumably they would have still suffered that fate anyway though maybe not as soon.
It would be nice if all the people exposed to political ads and then voting would have a basic understanding of statistics.
Dreadful? Really, Dreadful? You are being way too nice!
But now what is going to make Universe look good? Caprica previews where the uglier chick standing next to the ugly one.
No, the ending wasn't great but come on... this story wasn't going to have a great ending. It just doesn't support one. They sure did beat how the original BSG ended though!
It's ridiculous that something like this could even be patented in the first place. Routers existed. Wireless existed. How obvious is a wireless router?
If this ever caught on all it would do is make the 900mhz band so crowded as to be useless and still not even take a significant number of cellular users off the existing networks.
Emulators are for pussies. Real men use a real C64 made new with retrobrite and hack on a SD card slot plus an ethernet port.
How will they retire if they can't collect royalties? What will their families use for food if they don't continue to get royalties until 100 years after the engineers are dead?
Agreed but I don't know if I would admit it to the insurance company. They might use it as an excuse not to pay!
apparently there is a demand for them... someone has to be buying them from the thieves
Maybe they will bust the myth that he is any different from George W Bush or any of the other freedom hating Republican and Democrat politicians.
So you all email word documents back and forth. you aren't just sending information one way, A sends it to B, B adds something and sends it back to A, A adds more and sends it back? Really?
What if A wants to add something more but B hasn't sent it back yet? If A just adds it right away then A has to carefully read both copies once B does send it back to merge the changes. Isn't that very tedious and error prone?
What if A sends the document to both B and C. Then both B and C send it back with changes. Now A has to read 2 or 3 copies very carefully and merge the changes.
Meanwhile does one remove all the old copies? Do they always get saved in the same folders in an organized way? After going away and working on something else for a while is it always remembered or clear to see what the state of each copy is?
I see all of these problems just in my own office, we are only collaborating with each other! This is how it was when I got there, that is how it's always been. I've installed a wiki on our server and intend to bring it up one of these days as an alternative to the mess. Maybe it will be a big fail and an eye opener for me as to why this doesn't work. I really can't believe things will get any worse than they are though. Fortunately everyone I have to deal with has used a web browser before and even filled out web forms. A wiki shouldn't be that new for them. (ha ha ha my last words maybe)
I do get the 'this is how it is everywhere and I have to work with others' thing. It hasn't always been that way though. At one point it was papers in the mail! Things have changed before. Will they change again? 1000 years from now will people be emailing files written in MSOffice v. and merging changes? I don't think so. How about 100 years? 10 years? 1 year? If it is bound to change why not start today?
Most real world workplaces ARE STUPID-LAND!
I believed the 'no desire to learn something new' argument until Microsoft came out with the ribbon. One thing I learned from that is that I MYSELF HAVE NO DESIRE TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
I find moving from one office suite to another with fairly 'normal' File/Edit/View/etc... menus at the top to be pretty easy. It could be MSOffice, OO or even WordPerfect (back in the day). They just aren't that different! Now I can accept the idea that people less interested in computers or technologically inclined might not find this as easy. I still find the ribbon to be a big PITA though and I would think that someone who previously learned the old, sane menus but wasn't the kind to just pick up new but similar software easily would find such a radical change to be even more trouble than I do.
I suppose if you are a very basic user and only need the few functions that are placed out front, easy to see by the ribbon then it might actually be easier to learn up front. Still, if the mantra is everybody already had learned the old MSOffice and weren't interested in learning something new then existing office employees should have found OO much easier to transition to than an MSOffice upgrade.
Since this didn't happen my conclusion is that the real reasons have more to do with blind name recognition, a belief that the world is already Microsoft and things can't or shouldn't ever change mixed with a bit of corporate fear of anything free.
That's just my opinion based only on my own experiences of course.
Is it for MSOffice document compatibility?
Personally, I just write documents in OO and then export them to pdf if I am sending them somewhere. I've never had a problem this way. I suppose this is a problem if you want the recipient to be able to edit the document but why would you want that? If it is a collaborative work then an office suite is the wrong tool for the job. I have worked in places where this is done. It is horrible regardless of the office suite. Two people editing a document at the same time means one writes over the other's changes. Or, you end up with multiple versions of the same document scattered about the network drives. Worse yet they may be on the hard drives of different people's PCs. Before long no one knows which is the latest version or where it is. In all probability there is no latest version because no one document has everybody's changes in it. If you collaborate using an office suite then you need to first, slap yourself across the face twice (once per cheek). Then do it again harder. Harder again. Again!! Now, go get a wiki. If you must use Windows Server it now has a nice automatic server installer (looks like a Linux package manager) which will set one up for you with just a couple of clicks. Of course if you care at all about security Windows isn't allowed anywhere near your place of business anyway. There are Linux distro's that have similar easy methods for installing web tools including Wikis. With either OS just keep it behind the firewall, preferably on a NAT if you don't have an expert to configure the security settings.
Maybe OO doesn't have all the features you need which Microsoft Office does?
WTF kind of document are you creating anyway? Either one has 1000 times the features I ever want to learn for creating office documents. Maybe you are creating some kind of fancy art or advertising posters? Shouldn't you be using a publishing program? You probably learned Word back in grade school and have stuck with what you know. You probably put lots of work into learning to bend Word to do what you need it to do. It was hard and you don't want to go through all that work again just to switch programs. It was hard for a reason! It wasn't made for what you do. Go find a program that is and it won't be as difficult to learn in the first place plus you will probably put out a better product in the end. There is this saying, 'If the only tool you know is a hammer then everything looks like a nail'. Well... stop hammering in those screws!
Maybe you prefer MSOffice's user interface?
You must be on an old version from before they got the ribbon. Good for you! You realized that there is no reason to shell out your money every couple of years on the upgrade cycle if it isn't going to clearly make you more money back. Enjoy your savings! Some day though, when your hardware finally dies as it eventually does you will find that you can't buy that version of MSOffice anymore. The new versions use this awful ribbon thing which will be like starting from scratch to re-learn over again and will never allow you to be as efficient as you once were even after you know it well. Open Office on the other hand really isn't laid out that different from what you are used to. You will have to learn a bit if you switch to Open Office but trust me it will go better than dealing with that @#$ ribbon.
No, you really do use and love the ribbon?
I'm sorry I have nothing for you. At least nothing to say regarding computer software anyway. I do have some very important words of wisdom for you though. CRACK IS BAD!!! DON'T DO ANY MORE CRACK!!! And please, wear long sleeve shirts. The tracks are creeping me out. Now go away and don't come back until you have had a bath. You reek of crack and BO.
Microsoft won't die. It will lose it's monopoly power though. Microsoft will eventually be just one company among many. This has been slowly happening ever since Bill Gates left. I can't wait until Steve Jobs also retires. Maybe then there will be companies focusing on selling products instead of selling brands. Or... just new big brands with crappy products will take their places. I guess time will tell.
But when would he be up for parole? I'm guessing only a few years unless he behaves really badly in prison.
Putting the scientists in charge won't get you space elevators it will get you more robots.
Ding Dong the witch is dead!
I could see Korea or Iran doing this 20-30 years from now just to piss the US off. China might even be a contender for that... they would certainly have the capability quicker though they might be a little too diplomatic to go there. Not that diplomatic though given the weather satellite they blew up. (Yes the US did that too but at least they picked one in a orbit where the debris would fall to Earth rather than create long term shrapnel)
Jupiter/Saturn flybys... ok. Those probably deserve some mention
Skylab? ISS? If Skylab gets any mention it needs to include 'Skylab dropped into the sea practically unused'. Honestly I wouldn't include either in that timeline. Public awareness comes from doing something which is either a big step forward or blowing people up. We did low Earth orbit with project Mercury. The ISS is stuck in low Earth orbit. The rovers are great but we had probes on Mars some time ago too.
Yes, Apollo was a good solid brand but I wouldn't want to see it re-used any time soon. Then all the little kiddies who think going back to a capsule after 30 years of winged craft that could do no better than low Earth orbit would REALLY get annoying with their 70s technology cracks.