Just how long before the European ISPs (BT, I'm pointing the finger at you) see this going on, and decide that they'd like a piece of the action.
Or on the other hand, how long before US ISPs start making phone calls to non-US content providers? I can see just how that'd play out.
Verizon : Hey BBC, your good friends at Verizon are supplying 30 million customers with your content.
BBC: Your point being?
Verizon : Well, that is some nice content you've got there, be a shame if something happened to it...
Scary stuff. I've argued against a tiered internet before, because 'the public' will always go where they can get their information the quickest. Note I said quickest, *not* the most factually correct. Big Brother doesn't need to watch you if Big Brother can control your information before it even reaches you.
Well, the BBC are using the IP address to determine whether or not users can view content. I assume that a UK proxy would work, unless of course the BBC are wise to this approach and have taken steps to block proxies.
To follow up my own post, I use multicast at work to send BBC News 24 across the network. I've had 400+ stations (a mix of desktop and wireless laptops) connected at one time with no problem. I really can't see the problem here, and network administrators do have the option of blocking content if they are that worried about the situation.
Given this is a prototype, I doubt it'll suffer a sudden loss of pressure. It'll probably lose pressure slowly. Assuming that it does this, I guess the items inside will stay inside, and the risk will be minimal.
Of course, I am definately not a rocket scientist, so take this with a pinch of NaCl.
If I want to send someone a.doc file right now, I can use (for example), MS Office or Open Office to get the job done. If I want to send a pdf, I either use Open Office, or I have to buy Adobe's Standard Edition to get a plugin for MS Office.
So given that I exclusively use MS Office at work (say what you will, but the licensing program for colleges is decent value), I'm unlikely to want to pay extra £££s to use.pdf.
Now that MS will apparently not bundle native.pdf support into Office 2007, I can't see.pdf leaping forward in terms of a distribution format for documents.
Are Adobe trying to shoot themselves in the foot on this, or am I missing something crucial?
It is one thing for an internet site to claim they've been hacked / taken down, but if a political party does it, I'm sure it is a different kettle of fish.
According to The Pirate Party, a Swedish copyright reform organization, the raid also seized Piratbyrån's (the Pirate Bureau) servers. In addition, The Pirate Party reports "...the servers where located in a protected area, to which the police had no legal right to enter..." Approximately 50 police participated in the raid, which placed into custody two PirateBay.org personnel.
Now I remember reading the legal threats page, and the phrase normally went along the lines of "US Copyrights Mean Nothing Here".
What changed? Sending letters is one thing, but something pretty heavy must be going on to warrant that kind of response.
Can any of our swedish friends fill in the gaps here? I'm sure we're missing something.
For the price of a 360, I can get something original and interesting, plus 3 games, and waste away hours being entertained. Seriously, why do I need a 360 or a PS3, when this thing looks like it might actually manage to be a games console, instead of a glorified media centre?;)
... the minute ISPs get together and decide to traffic shape, shoving VoIP to the bottom of the list. A nice idea, and certainly it has it's merits. But can anyone else expect ISPs to tolerate a massive increase in end-to-end communications like this? Especially when some of them (Verizon, I'm looking at you) have a vested interest.
If they'll do it for bit-torrent, they'll do it for VoIP.
we should fight vigorously, on every front, against every attempt to gut it.
Agreed. Definately.
I don't have a problem with these guys using every legal means to get the information they required. However, I do disagree with the idea that just because they want something, they should get it. Of course, if there have been under-hand dealings that have prevented them for getting the domain, then I do question whether or not there needs to be a much clearer seperation of ICANN from the US Goverment.
Regardless of whether or not you agree with the decision, surely I can't be the only person that doesn't believe anyone has a 'right' to get a domain set up?
Given the situation you've shown above, I get a horrible feeling that if any scheme involving tiered-pricing goes ahead, it'll spread across the world (or certainly to media-heavy / bandwidth-use-intensive countries) before too long.
If this kind of stuff gets through, how long will it be before the UK ISPs (for example) start charging US companys to reach UK customers?
If I wasn't concerned before, I certainly am now... -_-
I agree, I don't like the idea of a network being strangled by a group of ISPs either. But just as the finance industry and certain customers have sought to escape rules they consider 'excessive', I can certainly see a similar situation happening.
But you are right, we should (and by 'we' I mean in general) fight to stop things happening, so we don't have to run around afterwards seeking loopholes.
Good point, you'd still have to deal with the carriers for the local stretch. However, I don't see how UK companies will be made to pay for data sent across US networks. So US companies can 'off shore' their operations and be treated as international customers.
If the US wishes to regulate content within the US, then so be it. Legally, they can decide what goes on inside their borders. But the internet is a global network; regulation across national borders has never really worked. Off-shore banking, anybody? Are we going to see off-shore datacenters (aka Sealand) but on a grand scale?
When confidential reports are released in this manner, sections are often blanked out. Will the same thing happen here? This isn't a troll; we've seen this happen before and it isn't as if the technology doesn't exist to make it happen.
"This Frame Blanked In The Interests Of National Security" and a black frame?
I honestly never would've thought of setting something up like that. Excellent idea; I'll investigate the inner-workings of the system tomorrow and see if I can throw something together along those lines. Many thanks!:)
I run the network and phone system in a college, and whilst I appreciate NTP is great, it does have drawbacks.
The biggest problem is keeping computer systems synched to 'real life' systems, such as analogue clocks and college bells. These systems have a mind of their own, and are seemingly set to random times.
A prime example; my computer at work synchs from the web, as do the servers, which in turn means all the Cisco VoIP phones are synched as well. The bells however, are never quite spot on, nor are the many analogue clocks in offices and classrooms.
Does anyone have a method of keeping everything in synch, because centralised and synchronised systems fall apart when dealing with 'real life' systems that are out of my hands.
He mentions Apple problems, specifically Quicktime and iTunes / iPod. I don't think it is fair to lay the blame for these problems at door of Linux.
Given half a chance, I'm sure there are countless people waiting to get to work on making the iPod work 'straight out of the box' with Linux.
But Apple won't allow that, and thus we're talking about the DMCA before we can even start making things work. I know there are a lot of self-confessed OSS and Apple fans out there, so you tell me, why won't Apple support Linux?
Well, the article states that the chips had already been tested by the government. It'd be strange to cover something up or 'get rid' of someone by admitting their own failings.
Of course, maybe that just makes it all the more believable... -_-
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Just how long before the European ISPs (BT, I'm pointing the finger at you) see this going on, and decide that they'd like a piece of the action.
: Your point being?
Verizon : Well, that is some nice content you've got there, be a shame if something happened to it...
Or on the other hand, how long before US ISPs start making phone calls to non-US content providers? I can see just how that'd play out.
Verizon : Hey BBC, your good friends at Verizon are supplying 30 million customers with your content. BBC
Scary stuff. I've argued against a tiered internet before, because 'the public' will always go where they can get their information the quickest. Note I said quickest, *not* the most factually correct. Big Brother doesn't need to watch you if Big Brother can control your information before it even reaches you.
Well, the BBC are using the IP address to determine whether or not users can view content. I assume that a UK proxy would work, unless of course the BBC are wise to this approach and have taken steps to block proxies.
To follow up my own post, I use multicast at work to send BBC News 24 across the network. I've had 400+ stations (a mix of desktop and wireless laptops) connected at one time with no problem. I really can't see the problem here, and network administrators do have the option of blocking content if they are that worried about the situation.
Well, the BBC is using multicast to stream matches out to UK based residents.
Multicast is perfect for this kind of situation, and I don't think we'll see a 'meltdown' because of it.
Given this is a prototype, I doubt it'll suffer a sudden loss of pressure. It'll probably lose pressure slowly. Assuming that it does this, I guess the items inside will stay inside, and the risk will be minimal.
Of course, I am definately not a rocket scientist, so take this with a pinch of NaCl.
If I want to send someone a .doc file right now, I can use (for example), MS Office or Open Office to get the job done. If I want to send a pdf, I either use Open Office, or I have to buy Adobe's Standard Edition to get a plugin for MS Office.
.pdf.
.pdf support into Office 2007, I can't see .pdf leaping forward in terms of a distribution format for documents.
So given that I exclusively use MS Office at work (say what you will, but the licensing program for colleges is decent value), I'm unlikely to want to pay extra £££s to use
Now that MS will apparently not bundle native
Are Adobe trying to shoot themselves in the foot on this, or am I missing something crucial?
Y'know, I've been accused of thinking with something before, but never my hand...
It is one thing for an internet site to claim they've been hacked / taken down, but if a political party does it, I'm sure it is a different kettle of fish.
So, from TFA;
According to The Pirate Party, a Swedish copyright reform organization, the raid also seized Piratbyrån's (the Pirate Bureau) servers. In addition, The Pirate Party reports "...the servers where located in a protected area, to which the police had no legal right to enter..." Approximately 50 police participated in the raid, which placed into custody two PirateBay.org personnel.
Now I remember reading the legal threats page, and the phrase normally went along the lines of "US Copyrights Mean Nothing Here".
What changed? Sending letters is one thing, but something pretty heavy must be going on to warrant that kind of response.
Can any of our swedish friends fill in the gaps here? I'm sure we're missing something.
£150?
;)
I'm buying one. End of discussion.
For the price of a 360, I can get something original and interesting, plus 3 games, and waste away hours being entertained. Seriously, why do I need a 360 or a PS3, when this thing looks like it might actually manage to be a games console, instead of a glorified media centre?
... the minute ISPs get together and decide to traffic shape, shoving VoIP to the bottom of the list. A nice idea, and certainly it has it's merits. But can anyone else expect ISPs to tolerate a massive increase in end-to-end communications like this? Especially when some of them (Verizon, I'm looking at you) have a vested interest.
If they'll do it for bit-torrent, they'll do it for VoIP.
The first person to combine a goatse popup with your idea gets a million quid bonus ;)
we should fight vigorously, on every front, against every attempt to gut it.
Agreed. Definately.
I don't have a problem with these guys using every legal means to get the information they required. However, I do disagree with the idea that just because they want something, they should get it. Of course, if there have been under-hand dealings that have prevented them for getting the domain, then I do question whether or not there needs to be a much clearer seperation of ICANN from the US Goverment.
Regardless of whether or not you agree with the decision, surely I can't be the only person that doesn't believe anyone has a 'right' to get a domain set up?
Given the situation you've shown above, I get a horrible feeling that if any scheme involving tiered-pricing goes ahead, it'll spread across the world (or certainly to media-heavy / bandwidth-use-intensive countries) before too long.
If this kind of stuff gets through, how long will it be before the UK ISPs (for example) start charging US companys to reach UK customers?
If I wasn't concerned before, I certainly am now... -_-
I agree, I don't like the idea of a network being strangled by a group of ISPs either. But just as the finance industry and certain customers have sought to escape rules they consider 'excessive', I can certainly see a similar situation happening.
But you are right, we should (and by 'we' I mean in general) fight to stop things happening, so we don't have to run around afterwards seeking loopholes.
Good point, you'd still have to deal with the carriers for the local stretch. However, I don't see how UK companies will be made to pay for data sent across US networks. So US companies can 'off shore' their operations and be treated as international customers.
If the US wishes to regulate content within the US, then so be it. Legally, they can decide what goes on inside their borders. But the internet is a global network; regulation across national borders has never really worked. Off-shore banking, anybody? Are we going to see off-shore datacenters (aka Sealand) but on a grand scale?
My mistake; I thought this was new footage that hadn't already been made available. Cheers :)
When confidential reports are released in this manner, sections are often blanked out. Will the same thing happen here? This isn't a troll; we've seen this happen before and it isn't as if the technology doesn't exist to make it happen.
"This Frame Blanked In The Interests Of National Security" and a black frame?
Personally, I'm not too fussed. I'm not *that* bothered, but it'd be nice to put something in place that'll stop the complaints from support staff.
I honestly never would've thought of setting something up like that. Excellent idea; I'll investigate the inner-workings of the system tomorrow and see if I can throw something together along those lines. Many thanks! :)
I run the network and phone system in a college, and whilst I appreciate NTP is great, it does have drawbacks.
The biggest problem is keeping computer systems synched to 'real life' systems, such as analogue clocks and college bells. These systems have a mind of their own, and are seemingly set to random times.
A prime example; my computer at work synchs from the web, as do the servers, which in turn means all the Cisco VoIP phones are synched as well. The bells however, are never quite spot on, nor are the many analogue clocks in offices and classrooms.
Does anyone have a method of keeping everything in synch, because centralised and synchronised systems fall apart when dealing with 'real life' systems that are out of my hands.
He mentions Apple problems, specifically Quicktime and iTunes / iPod. I don't think it is fair to lay the blame for these problems at door of Linux.
Given half a chance, I'm sure there are countless people waiting to get to work on making the iPod work 'straight out of the box' with Linux.
But Apple won't allow that, and thus we're talking about the DMCA before we can even start making things work. I know there are a lot of self-confessed OSS and Apple fans out there, so you tell me, why won't Apple support Linux?
Well, the article states that the chips had already been tested by the government. It'd be strange to cover something up or 'get rid' of someone by admitting their own failings.
Of course, maybe that just makes it all the more believable... -_-