Google and Microsoft are in the same category nowadays....
Not quite. Google is actually pretty competent in a lot of their service offerings, and they don't try to hold all your data hostage to proprietary technologies. That alone is quite a sharp contrast.
It was tactful of Google to call microsoft's FUD "irresponsible" without condemning the government workers who chose to go with microsoft in violation of their own policies. It's probably likely that points to another very large difference between Google and microsoft -- Google isn't into bribing IT decision makers, they rely on the strength of their offerings.
A better analogy would be I trick you into signing some illegal papers that swindles you out of your land, then I sell it to some rich guy. Legally, since the agreements were made in bad faith, they are dissolved, you get your property back, I go to prison.
Your argument implies that you have no problem with the government having a monopoly over a certain system but you do have a problem with private corporations having the same.
No, I think you're just imagining things with that one. I don't endorse any monopoly, period. My point is that the infrastructure and the wealth generated by our shoveling tax dollars into the bottomless pit that is corporate welfare rightfully belongs to the people. The corporate elites who put up ideas and hire the labor obviously deserve their cut, but their cut is not rightfully "100% plus lots more freebies plus we double-dip and charge 'consumers' for using the infrastructure they bought us". Probably 15% or so would be more appropriate.
Thank you, yes it really is that simple. The obstacles are formidable, but that should not stop us from seeking to continuously reform, revise, and refine our system. Darn, that reminds me, I have some maintenance to do...
If we want to own the lines, we need to form a coop, get ourselves access rights, buy the fibre, and build our own network. Interconnect all of our local networks, and help pay for it buy charging the businesses the rights to connect to us.
No, we rightfully do own the infrastructure. What we need is to make good on the promise of representative democracy, so the rights of the people can be recognized. We have to fix the system's flaws that allow corporate interests to be the primary benefactors of our elected officials.
I'm so glad I'm not an American because you poor sods actually buy into this shit.
We may be facing some big challenges right now, but there aren't too many places left that are so much better they can afford to be as smug as you are. Your choice of words makes you appear British. In which case: pot, kettle...
And don't forget "who gave them their regional mono/duopolies?" Uh huh. The speed of corporate asshattery never ceases to amaze me. Not two minutes after I pointed out that we own the infrastructure that post got modded down.
Yep. In fact, most big business in the USA is rightfully owned by the taxpayers. That includes companies like ATT, GM, Monsanto, Goldman-Sachs, etc. They keep taking the money, but don't want to be accountable. Legal shenanigans aside, obviously we are the rightful owners of the wealth generated by tax revenue.
now, not only we are mature, but also we have endless number of tools to facilitate distributed development.
There's some truth to that, but it also reminds me a bit of my eight-year-old neice talking about how different everything is now compared to way back when she was seven.:)
Starting to show indications of maturity yes. Achieved maturity -- not quite yet I think.
We'll just reserve judgement on that unti we learn the kernel version number. If it's NT6.2 then referring to win7 as "legacy" is just marketing or wishful thinking.
Yet, even so, the fact that they might crumble if they themselves were in such a situation does not make them incorrect.
Really there is no "correct" or "incorrect". Most of the time all we have is our own interpretation of reality, and all we can do is what must be done. It's always easy to tell others what they "should do". It's easy because they're the ones dealing with the consequences, many of which we probably don't know much less understand.
it's now cheap enough that you can probably buy all your employees brand new machines every 18 months, and make up for the difference in productivity gains.
Really depends on the kind of work the person's doing. Many people don't need anything cutting edge to be as productive as they're going to get, especially if you have them on xubuntu or XP. In fact, many people will become less productive if you give them something fast enough to run all the online flash games and do slashdot really well.;)
Idealistic people tend to spend a lot of time being confused about how to deal with reality, which is not the slightest bit idealistic. When it's someone else's painful consequences, ideals rule. When it's your own, well, different story. Lots of people will jump in with accusations of "selling out", "siding with the man", etc. That's all pretty much delusional though.
The only way is to issue destructive/"accident prone" people used or reconditioned machines. I always say, "take care of this solid, but old machine for 18 months and we'll see about letting you have a new one.". It works pretty well. That coffee spiller would have been quite deflated if she'd had to deal with me, heh -- "I'm so sorry you had an accident with your Pentium M laptop; here's a nice, reconditioned PIII for a replacement -- awwww and you were only 6 months from getting one of the new ones... Well, maybe(the last quarter of 2012!".
We have a winner! Have the rest of you all forgotten about monsanto korn that causes kidney failure? We need to rewrite the blinkenlights thingie, targeting would-be "genetic engineers" (with nature being the machine not for der fingerpoken, etc).
Sorry, I don't even know what a "triple crown winner" is. I'm guessing it isn't football or yahtzee.
Well, you're most likely either (1)dependent on someone else for your survival, or (2) totally down-and-out (lots of people are, it's nothing to be ashamed of), or (3)you're a redneck hillbilly whose been training for the breakdown of society sonce the civil rights movement began. How close am I?:D
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Why? I already have an inet6 address. Anyone who bought hardware that doesn't do ipv6 in the past two years must not be a real geek.
Not quite. Google is actually pretty competent in a lot of their service offerings, and they don't try to hold all your data hostage to proprietary technologies. That alone is quite a sharp contrast.
It was tactful of Google to call microsoft's FUD "irresponsible" without condemning the government workers who chose to go with microsoft in violation of their own policies. It's probably likely that points to another very large difference between Google and microsoft -- Google isn't into bribing IT decision makers, they rely on the strength of their offerings.
A better analogy would be I trick you into signing some illegal papers that swindles you out of your land, then I sell it to some rich guy. Legally, since the agreements were made in bad faith, they are dissolved, you get your property back, I go to prison.
No, I think you're just imagining things with that one. I don't endorse any monopoly, period. My point is that the infrastructure and the wealth generated by our shoveling tax dollars into the bottomless pit that is corporate welfare rightfully belongs to the people. The corporate elites who put up ideas and hire the labor obviously deserve their cut, but their cut is not rightfully "100% plus lots more freebies plus we double-dip and charge 'consumers' for using the infrastructure they bought us". Probably 15% or so would be more appropriate.
Thank you, yes it really is that simple. The obstacles are formidable, but that should not stop us from seeking to continuously reform, revise, and refine our system. Darn, that reminds me, I have some maintenance to do...
Me too. Sorry I mistook your tone there...
No, we rightfully do own the infrastructure. What we need is to make good on the promise of representative democracy, so the rights of the people can be recognized. We have to fix the system's flaws that allow corporate interests to be the primary benefactors of our elected officials.
Good point, believing in "for the people, of the people, by the people" while actually kowtowing to the feudal lords is nothing new in the USA.
We may be facing some big challenges right now, but there aren't too many places left that are so much better they can afford to be as smug as you are. Your choice of words makes you appear British. In which case: pot, kettle...
And don't forget "who gave them their regional mono/duopolies?" Uh huh. The speed of corporate asshattery never ceases to amaze me. Not two minutes after I pointed out that we own the infrastructure that post got modded down.
Yep. In fact, most big business in the USA is rightfully owned by the taxpayers. That includes companies like ATT, GM, Monsanto, Goldman-Sachs, etc. They keep taking the money, but don't want to be accountable. Legal shenanigans aside, obviously we are the rightful owners of the wealth generated by tax revenue.
The infrastructure that was mostly paid for by the taxpayers. So we do own it, really.
You're either extremely frustrated or spoiled rotten.
Silly doper. Your "main rig" should always consist of a sweet-sounding tube amplifier, a great sounding guitar, and few carefully-chosen effects.
There's some truth to that, but it also reminds me a bit of my eight-year-old neice talking about how different everything is now compared to way back when she was seven. :)
Starting to show indications of maturity yes. Achieved maturity -- not quite yet I think.
We'll just reserve judgement on that unti we learn the kernel version number. If it's NT6.2 then referring to win7 as "legacy" is just marketing or wishful thinking.
Really there is no "correct" or "incorrect". Most of the time all we have is our own interpretation of reality, and all we can do is what must be done. It's always easy to tell others what they "should do". It's easy because they're the ones dealing with the consequences, many of which we probably don't know much less understand.
Really depends on the kind of work the person's doing. Many people don't need anything cutting edge to be as productive as they're going to get, especially if you have them on xubuntu or XP. In fact, many people will become less productive if you give them something fast enough to run all the online flash games and do slashdot really well. ;)
Right, so IOW people were fooled by idealistic expectations.
I don't know Geohot's mind, but my own mind tells me perhaps he did have a plan A and a plan B, and plan B is what ended up implemented.
Idealistic people tend to spend a lot of time being confused about how to deal with reality, which is not the slightest bit idealistic. When it's someone else's painful consequences, ideals rule. When it's your own, well, different story. Lots of people will jump in with accusations of "selling out", "siding with the man", etc. That's all pretty much delusional though.
The only way is to issue destructive/"accident prone" people used or reconditioned machines. I always say, "take care of this solid, but old machine for 18 months and we'll see about letting you have a new one.". It works pretty well. That coffee spiller would have been quite deflated if she'd had to deal with me, heh -- "I'm so sorry you had an accident with your Pentium M laptop; here's a nice, reconditioned PIII for a replacement -- awwww and you were only 6 months from getting one of the new ones... Well, maybe(the last quarter of 2012!".
We have a winner! Have the rest of you all forgotten about monsanto korn that causes kidney failure? We need to rewrite the blinkenlights thingie, targeting would-be "genetic engineers" (with nature being the machine not for der fingerpoken, etc).
Good, glad to hear it! :)
Wull see now that's jes discriminatorilistic against people who cain't dew math. We hav a ryte to be mathametitiens two!
Sorry, I don't even know what a "triple crown winner" is. I'm guessing it isn't football or yahtzee.
:D
Well, you're most likely either
(1)dependent on someone else for your survival, or
(2) totally down-and-out (lots of people are, it's nothing to be ashamed of), or
(3)you're a redneck hillbilly whose been training for the breakdown of society sonce the civil rights movement began.
How close am I?