You are doing it wrong. You just confused probably +95% of anyone who tried to read that. It doesn't have to be that complicated. You probably confuse yourself and don't even realize it.
The commandment is "Thou shalt not murder.", not "Thou shalt not kill."
Armed rebellion and taking on evil like the Nazi's is not exactly the same thing. True, taking on the Nazi's was an armed rebellion, but not the same thing as Martin Luther King Jr. rallying people together with guns. One was based on defense against genocide of millions of others as well possible death to self, the other on rebelling against unjust authority.
We are supposed to respect the sabbath and not work. Others serving us tea, coffee and cookies to make a living is not respecting it just because "we" are not working.
Oh, and rendering what is Caeser's to him is not the same thing as supporting him. It does mean (among other things) if you partake of what is Caeser's, then prepare to play by his rules.
He said obey the laws of the land, each and every one. (Of course not the ones that go against GOD's commands.. ) That doesn't mean they were just laws... just that one should obey those laws - Why do you think such a thing would be commanded?
I think the media is used as a tool to confuse and divide. The truth is, many Americans are much more moderate than the Boob Tube would lead one to believe. I don't care if they are an old white lady from Louisiana, or a drug dealing gangsta on the run from the California law - most agree with and understand the truth and commons sense when discussed alone and away from the crowd.
Anyone who wished to tell you not to stereotype are just trying to tear down your defenses and brainwash you. Perhaps they are just spreading the brainwashing they themselves received, but that is what it is.
Does that mean you shouldn't judge an individual on their own merits? Of course not!
The KKK was started (as most groups) with what they believed to be good intentions. However, after learning some of the history that you will not see on T.V. or in school, from family members who have since left the organization, I am aware that poisoning the well is precisely what happened. This KKK is where I actually learned that it happens.
I am not defending the KKK, just that they were not intending to be as evil as they in effect became or are portrayed. What is scary, is that now our government is being so brazen as to be open about what they are doing... I first read this on Slashdot but I can't seem to locate the article. This may be about a different Czar as I read it they wanted to infiltrate grassroots organizations. But anyhow - http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121884
I would say it more accurate that I am an anomaly in the world, period. It seemed to me all the rich people went to the big church when I was a kid just to make an appearance - it put me off from going to a church for years.
But things are rarely truly as they seem. Many of those same rich people probably think they mean well, and didn't realize they were lost.
I take the Bible literally. That shouldn't scare you. That is the only way one should take it. However, context is important. Some people think that just because it is in the Bible, it is condoned by GOD. For example, there is murder (Cane and Able), but that doesn't mean it is righteous.
You have to want to see the truth, in order to understand the Bible. Many people just want to read some words and receive conformation they are "good people". But we aren't, we are all sinners. That doesn't stop them from twisting words to suit their interests, instead of GOD's - whether they claim to be believers or not.
I think you misunderstand what he says, as is often the case since you are going in with a negative view. Where do you get he had "no problem" with slave-owners? Perhaps your idea of slave and his differ?
Whether they were "operated by the temple" or not matters not. If it was wrong, as it obviously was by his reaction, the priests should have done something (anything?) about it. Similar to how event hosts (stadiums, etc.) do something about scalpers and hucksters. If they did nothing, they would in effect be condoning it since it is happening on the grounds of said event.
The idea was to give tithes to those for the sake of building up the church. No capital, little production. Of course he knew much of it would be wasted, but that doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse not to do the right thing.
He also got angry and overturned the tables used for ripping off people buying sacrifices for the altar being sold at the temple. Please don't try to portray it as Jesus wanted people to be slaves (even monetarily) to the church. He did it because it would help build it up and help allow people be more free, not to bind them down. Only by sowing the seeds do you get the harvest.
You can't get around without traveling on paved roads in the city. During those days there was no such thing. At most, bricked roads. I am not sure who paid for "dirt" roads to be cleared, but I am sure much of it was like a right of way today, it is the concern of who wants it.
Today our roads are paid for from gas taxes, since they are designed for use by vehicles...
What does the country being secular have to do with loving citizen's equally again? Because from where I am standing, my government very much doesn't love me in practice. From where I am standing, we have freedom of religion, but it is undeniable the Christian faith carved much of the ideals and foundational premises of rights and freedoms this country has, even though it is done everyday. (hurts the head when you think about it...)
Sure, having the church not running the government was an attempt at keeping a repeat of church corruption by "politicians", but it was simply for the freedom of religion, not so that the church (or religion) was not at all allowed to be involved in the community, aka the state.
I read it as if you partake of Caesar and bind yourself to his money, then yes render what is his to him. Sometimes you have no choice, and then as it is written, obey every law of the land, yes every last one. (Obviously not if against one of GOD's commands, but that should go without saying... right?)
DavidTC, I grew up poor, and yet also for a few years had a rich stepdad. And when I say poor, I mean like selling drugs at 14 just to eat. Not like the poor here in the area where I now reside and in most places.
I come from Louisiana originally, and welfare is used to get votes. The same politicians promise education and never deliver. Welfare is designed in it's current state to never teach the poor how to fish, just to give it to them. That is NOT something Jesus would want and is truly an injustice.
One should not be down with submitting to any authority other than GOD. In this country many things are already at "Police State" stage. The government should fear the people, not the people fear the government.
Mod parent up. You can't love someone and hate them at the same time. I would rather not see other men naked, but if I have to go onto his property to do it, then I am the one crossing the line. As long as it doesn't effect me, a person should be free to do as they wish. Anything else is slavery, no matter how minor.
As for cannabis, I have smoked booku as a teen. I don't condone it, and I see it as a medicine. Similar in (some) ways to drinking in the Bible, which states it should be left to those that are weak and depressed basically. Also, the lies and history of it are far more important than demonizing(?) something non-lethal (as far as overdosing, you can't claim that with Tylenol, sugar or even water!) and criminalizing around half of society for the sake of big business. When you consider these things and the fact we have discovered this summer that their are millions of cannabanoid receptors in the body, I think a logically thinking Christian ( or anyone for that matter) would be for decriminalization.
We think we know so much, and yet we just discovered evidence this week that the huge carnivore "Neanderthals" may be a myth, and that there is strong evidence they had cooked (and ate) their vegetables.
Personally, I seek the truth, and I recognize that the enemy (satan) is cunning. Why wouldn't he go after catholic priests and Southern Baptist ministers? Does that mean Christianity doesn't work? No it means the well has been poisoned. Anyone who doesn't care to consider that is either wanting to not admit GOD exists, or hasn't been able to wade through the evil and hate that bombards us everyday to get to the truth yet. Seek, and you shall find.
Negative, the woman "cut through" onto his property and saw he was naked inside of his own home. It makes as much sense as the guy who fell through the skylight while he was robbing someone and fell onto the knives upside down on the knife block, sued, and won. I couldn't find a similar story that I believe is different but one woman actually trespassed onto the guys property peeking into his window and had to stand on her tippy toes or get right up to the window to see him, and he was arrested as well. How can someone committing a crime cause someone else to commit a crime? Even if it could, it should be null and the original crime should take precedence and be the focus, for if it had not happened then there wouldn't have been a second.. right?
Wait commodore64, I am a Christian, and I don't think a person should not have the freedom to smoke cannabis or be naked in his own home. Remember, many people call themselves something they are not with the intention of poisoning the well.
Most importantly, we found out in this study that sugar pills may in fact cure IBS, instead of costly and probably loaded with negative side effects pharmaceutical alternative.. Now THAT is something we should follow up on!
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - The Declaration of Independence
How else can you begin to do that without the truth to know who is lying? With secrets you can't. Also, consider JFK's last speech.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it’s in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."
I wasn't aware that Mike Huckabe was calling for treason and the death penalty. I knew there was something about him I didn't like, but introducing "treason" executions for something that does not call for it so that the people will get desensitized to the idea.. yea he is the one that should be tried for treason.
Wikileaks style... pshh.. I can't help but think this was done on purpose for that one line. Yes I know it has been out there for awhile, which is why it makes this all the more scary the planning and limits the G men will go to.
Regardless, this has nothing to do with Wikileaks, and is completely the fault of whoever didn't make sure it was secured. But I bet Mike Huckabee won't call on that person to be brought up on charges of treason, even though they did in fact provably put people at risk.
No matter how tight I wear my tinfoil hat, unless it is actually a full body suit and electrified on the outside, I think this will obsolete it. Imagine, cells turn cancerous if your black, gay, white, short, don't have any certain genetic or set of genetic markers. If you leave a certain atmospheric pressure, like come down off your mountain prison it reacts to a change in your body. If you pass or leave a magnetic field (or it accidentally loses power) you're a goner. I could go on and on.
While I can also think of the wonders this could allow, I think more of what could easily go wrong. When you have American scientists laughing because they gave the Russian's leukemia on accident with an early vaccine test, this doesn't make me feel any better.
You saying that they wouldn't be able to cover it up better by waiting until the right time when the media is watching him live and they can blame it on a crazy, or trying to compare TED to security of public courthouse (was this before he released this document cache just recently??) is rather stupid.
Wow, another idiot that thinks he can ignore my signature warning and thinks I either A, will not reply to him, which I am not, or be let him be an idiot.
Who said they had to physically attack them? Idiot. They didn't even try, they would rather play along in case they tried to move he was going to thrash them, since he showed evidence of that before, although they were willing to copulate, and "rape" was not as bad as being held down, oh no. Idiot.
AC is license to be an idiot, and here is yet more proof.
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You are doing it wrong. You just confused probably +95% of anyone who tried to read that. It doesn't have to be that complicated. You probably confuse yourself and don't even realize it.
The commandment is "Thou shalt not murder.", not "Thou shalt not kill."
Armed rebellion and taking on evil like the Nazi's is not exactly the same thing. True, taking on the Nazi's was an armed rebellion, but not the same thing as Martin Luther King Jr. rallying people together with guns. One was based on defense against genocide of millions of others as well possible death to self, the other on rebelling against unjust authority.
We are supposed to respect the sabbath and not work. Others serving us tea, coffee and cookies to make a living is not respecting it just because "we" are not working.
You can't take it with you, can you?
There is something awfully wrong with Starbucks. Putting it in a church doesn't make it OK either.
Oh, and rendering what is Caeser's to him is not the same thing as supporting him. It does mean (among other things) if you partake of what is Caeser's, then prepare to play by his rules.
He said obey the laws of the land, each and every one. (Of course not the ones that go against GOD's commands.. ) That doesn't mean they were just laws... just that one should obey those laws - Why do you think such a thing would be commanded?
I think the media is used as a tool to confuse and divide. The truth is, many Americans are much more moderate than the Boob Tube would lead one to believe. I don't care if they are an old white lady from Louisiana, or a drug dealing gangsta on the run from the California law - most agree with and understand the truth and commons sense when discussed alone and away from the crowd.
Anyone who wished to tell you not to stereotype are just trying to tear down your defenses and brainwash you. Perhaps they are just spreading the brainwashing they themselves received, but that is what it is.
Does that mean you shouldn't judge an individual on their own merits? Of course not!
The KKK was started (as most groups) with what they believed to be good intentions. However, after learning some of the history that you will not see on T.V. or in school, from family members who have since left the organization, I am aware that poisoning the well is precisely what happened. This KKK is where I actually learned that it happens.
I am not defending the KKK, just that they were not intending to be as evil as they in effect became or are portrayed. What is scary, is that now our government is being so brazen as to be open about what they are doing... I first read this on Slashdot but I can't seem to locate the article. This may be about a different Czar as I read it they wanted to infiltrate grassroots organizations. But anyhow - http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121884
I would say it more accurate that I am an anomaly in the world, period. It seemed to me all the rich people went to the big church when I was a kid just to make an appearance - it put me off from going to a church for years.
But things are rarely truly as they seem. Many of those same rich people probably think they mean well, and didn't realize they were lost.
I take the Bible literally. That shouldn't scare you. That is the only way one should take it. However, context is important. Some people think that just because it is in the Bible, it is condoned by GOD. For example, there is murder (Cane and Able), but that doesn't mean it is righteous.
You have to want to see the truth, in order to understand the Bible. Many people just want to read some words and receive conformation they are "good people". But we aren't, we are all sinners. That doesn't stop them from twisting words to suit their interests, instead of GOD's - whether they claim to be believers or not.
I think you misunderstand what he says, as is often the case since you are going in with a negative view. Where do you get he had "no problem" with slave-owners? Perhaps your idea of slave and his differ?
Whether they were "operated by the temple" or not matters not. If it was wrong, as it obviously was by his reaction, the priests should have done something (anything?) about it. Similar to how event hosts (stadiums, etc.) do something about scalpers and hucksters. If they did nothing, they would in effect be condoning it since it is happening on the grounds of said event.
The idea was to give tithes to those for the sake of building up the church. No capital, little production. Of course he knew much of it would be wasted, but that doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse not to do the right thing.
He also got angry and overturned the tables used for ripping off people buying sacrifices for the altar being sold at the temple. Please don't try to portray it as Jesus wanted people to be slaves (even monetarily) to the church. He did it because it would help build it up and help allow people be more free, not to bind them down. Only by sowing the seeds do you get the harvest.
You can't get around without traveling on paved roads in the city. During those days there was no such thing. At most, bricked roads. I am not sure who paid for "dirt" roads to be cleared, but I am sure much of it was like a right of way today, it is the concern of who wants it.
Today our roads are paid for from gas taxes, since they are designed for use by vehicles...
What does the country being secular have to do with loving citizen's equally again? Because from where I am standing, my government very much doesn't love me in practice. From where I am standing, we have freedom of religion, but it is undeniable the Christian faith carved much of the ideals and foundational premises of rights and freedoms this country has, even though it is done everyday. (hurts the head when you think about it...)
Sure, having the church not running the government was an attempt at keeping a repeat of church corruption by "politicians", but it was simply for the freedom of religion, not so that the church (or religion) was not at all allowed to be involved in the community, aka the state.
I read it as if you partake of Caesar and bind yourself to his money, then yes render what is his to him. Sometimes you have no choice, and then as it is written, obey every law of the land, yes every last one. (Obviously not if against one of GOD's commands, but that should go without saying... right?)
DavidTC, I grew up poor, and yet also for a few years had a rich stepdad. And when I say poor, I mean like selling drugs at 14 just to eat. Not like the poor here in the area where I now reside and in most places.
I come from Louisiana originally, and welfare is used to get votes. The same politicians promise education and never deliver. Welfare is designed in it's current state to never teach the poor how to fish, just to give it to them. That is NOT something Jesus would want and is truly an injustice.
One should not be down with submitting to any authority other than GOD. In this country many things are already at "Police State" stage. The government should fear the people, not the people fear the government.
Mod parent up. You can't love someone and hate them at the same time. I would rather not see other men naked, but if I have to go onto his property to do it, then I am the one crossing the line. As long as it doesn't effect me, a person should be free to do as they wish. Anything else is slavery, no matter how minor.
As for cannabis, I have smoked booku as a teen. I don't condone it, and I see it as a medicine. Similar in (some) ways to drinking in the Bible, which states it should be left to those that are weak and depressed basically. Also, the lies and history of it are far more important than demonizing(?) something non-lethal (as far as overdosing, you can't claim that with Tylenol, sugar or even water!) and criminalizing around half of society for the sake of big business. When you consider these things and the fact we have discovered this summer that their are millions of cannabanoid receptors in the body, I think a logically thinking Christian ( or anyone for that matter) would be for decriminalization.
We think we know so much, and yet we just discovered evidence this week that the huge carnivore "Neanderthals" may be a myth, and that there is strong evidence they had cooked (and ate) their vegetables.
Personally, I seek the truth, and I recognize that the enemy (satan) is cunning. Why wouldn't he go after catholic priests and Southern Baptist ministers? Does that mean Christianity doesn't work? No it means the well has been poisoned. Anyone who doesn't care to consider that is either wanting to not admit GOD exists, or hasn't been able to wade through the evil and hate that bombards us everyday to get to the truth yet. Seek, and you shall find.
Negative, the woman "cut through" onto his property and saw he was naked inside of his own home. It makes as much sense as the guy who fell through the skylight while he was robbing someone and fell onto the knives upside down on the knife block, sued, and won. I couldn't find a similar story that I believe is different but one woman actually trespassed onto the guys property peeking into his window and had to stand on her tippy toes or get right up to the window to see him, and he was arrested as well. How can someone committing a crime cause someone else to commit a crime? Even if it could, it should be null and the original crime should take precedence and be the focus, for if it had not happened then there wouldn't have been a second.. right?
Wait commodore64, I am a Christian, and I don't think a person should not have the freedom to smoke cannabis or be naked in his own home. Remember, many people call themselves something they are not with the intention of poisoning the well.
Most importantly, we found out in this study that sugar pills may in fact cure IBS, instead of costly and probably loaded with negative side effects pharmaceutical alternative.. Now THAT is something we should follow up on!
Or if he were American, a patriot? Remember -
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - The Declaration of Independence
How else can you begin to do that without the truth to know who is lying? With secrets you can't. Also, consider JFK's last speech.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it’s in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."
I wasn't aware that Mike Huckabe was calling for treason and the death penalty. I knew there was something about him I didn't like, but introducing "treason" executions for something that does not call for it so that the people will get desensitized to the idea.. yea he is the one that should be tried for treason.
Wikileaks style... pshh.. I can't help but think this was done on purpose for that one line. Yes I know it has been out there for awhile, which is why it makes this all the more scary the planning and limits the G men will go to.
Regardless, this has nothing to do with Wikileaks, and is completely the fault of whoever didn't make sure it was secured. But I bet Mike Huckabee won't call on that person to be brought up on charges of treason, even though they did in fact provably put people at risk.
No matter how tight I wear my tinfoil hat, unless it is actually a full body suit and electrified on the outside, I think this will obsolete it. Imagine, cells turn cancerous if your black, gay, white, short, don't have any certain genetic or set of genetic markers. If you leave a certain atmospheric pressure, like come down off your mountain prison it reacts to a change in your body. If you pass or leave a magnetic field (or it accidentally loses power) you're a goner. I could go on and on.
While I can also think of the wonders this could allow, I think more of what could easily go wrong. When you have American scientists laughing because they gave the Russian's leukemia on accident with an early vaccine test, this doesn't make me feel any better.
Yea, I see you even clicked his link. Wait, no you must have not or be blind.
You saying that they wouldn't be able to cover it up better by waiting until the right time when the media is watching him live and they can blame it on a crazy, or trying to compare TED to security of public courthouse (was this before he released this document cache just recently??) is rather stupid.
Wow, another idiot that thinks he can ignore my signature warning and thinks I either A, will not reply to him, which I am not, or be let him be an idiot.
Who said they had to physically attack them? Idiot. They didn't even try, they would rather play along in case they tried to move he was going to thrash them, since he showed evidence of that before, although they were willing to copulate, and "rape" was not as bad as being held down, oh no. Idiot.
AC is license to be an idiot, and here is yet more proof.