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Interpol Issues Wanted Notice For Julian Assange
chrb writes "Interpol have issued a wanted notice for Julian Paul Assange for alleged sex crimes. The Guardian and Wired both have commentary."
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This seems to be blatant character assassination and should be beneath an international political body.
Hey buddy, can i bum a karma? ~}CinderellaManson{~
I doubt these charges are legit. You'd have to be a really big idiot to advocate a glass house policy if you had skeletons like that hiding in your closet.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed H
Just in case some reads the comments and not the article..
The women themselves said they were not afraid of him, and he did not force them.
How often does Interpol get involved in sex crimes cases? Specifically, I'm wondering if this is common practice, or if it's only common practice when the suspect is as famous/meddling/troublesome-to-xyz-government as Julian Assange.
The scary part is that a) with the resources at the disposal of the U.S govt, I doubt they would have hard time fabricating a sexual assault case and b) these days it's enough that a girl with some acting skills points at you and cries, and that's it - game over.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few.
(Yes I know what happens later in the movie)
Julian is gay, total bottom. I know because I used to hook up with him.
and so is everyone ELSE at wikileaks if they fuck with Mother Russia!
One thing I respect that dude for, is his ambition. Not even the 'strongest' nation on earth could derail him. Think about that for a second.
A quote I remember in one interview he had with the BBC...
"I get personal satisfaction when I expose what governments have denied the citizens they represent and will continue to do so till the very end."
This dude is one hell of a dude. I wonder what governments really fear if all they are doing is 'doing good' as they say.
One thing for sure: We now know what many governments were thinking despite the public rhetoric. I personally cannot wait for the financial documents to be exposed. My hunch...BoA.
Interpol has no authority to compel a subject’s arrest. It issued 5,020 Red Notice last year for a variety of crimes.
Most telling line of the articles, imo.
I live in constant fear of the Coming of the Red Spiders.
he is still a egotistical assbag. Fortunately for him being an assbag is not a crime.
I still have a hard time supporting an organization with someone like him at the helm.
Gone!
Probably because he's promoting the recent raping of SKRIT information recently released by Wikileaks.
COINCIDENTALLY, these two incidents happen around the same time?
IT MUST BE TRUE GUISE.
I care why? why is this post here?
Of course it is common practice. We just never get to hear about it, usually.
This is bull*hit power-abuse of the worst sort, and should be exposed for what it truly is. The criminals are now trying to cover their tracks, however, truth will prevail and bring them to justice.
*cough* Hillary *cough* Clinton *cough*
The sad thing is that if Wikileaks had published it all in one go, we've probably never would've heard a percentile of what is now coming out. Yes, journalism has really sunk to new lows all-around, and now people like Julian have to do their work for them.
Finally some real news to read.. The continuation will be interesting..
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcTP7YWPayU
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Spreading rumors of sexual crime (predator, pedo, deviancy, etc.) is standard policy against street people and homeless people. Any question about a new homeless person, asked of any ten other homeless people, will usually attract one to four respondants,"Don't know who that person is. I heard they might be a sex offender. $So_and_so said they heard that there are some new pedophiles around." It is nearly standard policy to run the pedo/predator line against any new people on the street and, if they so much as bat an eye, run them down with it.
Julian Assange is free to have a beer with me on the sidewalk any day! I'll even buy.
the NPG electrode was replaced with carbon blac
Talk about bad cover blaming the Wanted Notice on the alleged sex crimes. If he wasn't running Wikileaks this wouldn't have happend.
I'll bet even money that if they throw him in a cell that he unexpectedly and mysteriously hangs himself when nobody is looking. ;D
Got modded Troll for saying this which I'm not sure why.
Anyway I think the chances of these accusations against Assange being completely unrelated to the leak and the timing being coincidental are pretty slim. It's kinda obvious that higher powers have targetted him. It's even more scary because it seems that these days the easiest way to hurt someone is by accusations of sexual assault. Who would dare hint that it might be untrue? I mean even on Slashdot one gets modded down -1 as Troll for raising this option...
Here's a quote from the article:
According to local news reports, the women told investigators the sexual encounters began as consensual, but turned non-consensual. One woman said Assange ignored her appeals to stop when the condom broke.
I don't understand - the condom broke in the middle so she asked him to stop, he didn't - and that's rape?
Does anybody remember that time some guy hid a camera in the gym that Princess Di was going to, and recorded her doing thigh contraction exercises?
Some news show got revenge on him by inviting the guy over for an interview, while secretly hiding a camera in his hotel room, where they recorded him wanking off to a porn video offered on the hotel TV.
So the moral of the story is that if you like to pry open the secrets of others, then others can pry open your secrets too. Turnabout is fairplay. Just because you're a crusader with a camera, pen, laptop, or website, doesn't mean you're above being reported on. Comes with the territory - you gotta be able to take it, if you wanna dish it out.
I don't mind reading about Julian Assange's sex life. Enquiring minds wanna know.
Yes, chairman, we will harmonize this affront immediately!
In a statement earlier this month, Assange’s British counsel said that his client repeatedly offered to cooperate with local investigators while he was in Sweden, and has offered to answer questions remotely from Britain since then.
“All of these offers have been flatly refused by a prosecutor who is abusing her powers by insisting that he return to Sweden at his own expense to be subjected to another media circus that she will orchestrate,” wrote attorney Mark Stephens. “Pursuing a warrant in this circumstance is entirely unnecessary and disproportionate.
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Why is this story filled with assinine comments like this?
Did you miss the part where Assange offered, through his lawyer, several times, to be interviewed by these prosecutors before he had left Sweden? And they weren't interested?
There's no reason for them to go after him now, other than this:
Wikileaks is releasing lots of shit that makes governments around the world look bad, and they apparently feel the need to DISTRACT PEOPLE with these trumped-up "sex" crime accusations, and try to smear Assange any way they can.
He has invited the various governments to give file numbers that could potentially put people at risk and they've flat out refused. So far, I haven't seen a single part of the leak that puts anyone in danger. It names names, but they are generally all high up government types, not anyone on the front lines or whatever.
+1 IDisagreeSoHeMustBeATrollOrAnAstroturferOrAShill
The way I see it, governments kill all kinds of people directly and indirectly in secret--and the U.S. has a particularly rich history of this. As such, I want every government's secrets to be plastered everywhere. The number of people that may conceivably die as a result of these leaks is absolutely nothing compared to what has been done in secret for decades. Of course, I'm a pacifist and an anarchist, so I consider the idea of having to balance secrecy and disclosure so that the state can continue to exist in its preferred form (I believe it's called "national security") kind of moot. YMMV.
That is what the claim is with all this stuff. The claim is that he at the very least coerced sex from a couple of women. More or less the claim is it started consensual, but then turned non-consensual. That would be an egotistical thing to do, thinking more about yourself than the other person, and also on that is illegal.
Of course we've no idea if it is true yet, but if it is that would be a case where being an egotistical assbag IS a crime. You can think whatever you like, but when your ego causes you to infringe on the right of others, you are generally entering illegal territory.
If Interpol is cooperating with the US in assassinating Assange's credibility because of Wikki leaks activities this is the least of his worries. He had better hire an army. Conspiracy much?
This would be a good moment to release it! http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance
There is some kind of study going on at the federal level here in Australia about that. If they can charge him for releasing Australian information in the cables they can revoke his passport.
http://michaelsmith.id.au
This isn't new. Remember when Muqtada Al-Sadr started talking about how he didn't respect the temp Iraqi government? They suddenly created an arrest warrant for allegedly murdering a cleric in 2003, despite the fact that the guy was lynched and Al-Sadr wasn't there.
Should they charge all those who are seeding the documents torrent?
so you say they have a jack ruby setup for him?
Yet another indicator of where the power really lies.
Well, that answers the question of Sweden being the US stooge.
I was gonna write "our stooge", but I'm ambivalent on this one, as I am ambivalent about the disclosure of secret diplomatic cables.
Assange might be an asshole, but I want this guy protected.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
And we're entitled to think you're a prejudiced handy idiot for the powerful.
Have you read his statements? What do you agree or disagree with?
Why these ad-hominem attacks on someone you've never met or just heard rumors about?
Handy idiot for the powerful indeed.
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
wow . i feel so much better now.
Just for that im donating money to wikileaks.
GO JULIAN!!!!!
he will be dead by next year. till now he has just been crushing people's egos. now he is threatening people's bank accounts, powerful people, people with connections with his latest announcement. sure the dirty laundry they are hiding needs to be taken out but he has to expect that by now wanting him alive is not a option anymore. sure it will be murder but they will make it look like a suicide or accident, especially if it's the cia. 50 years of practice of doing this sort of thing makes me think he won't last long.
I assume it is illegal to harbor someone wanted by Interpol, right?
I mean, obviously if he was in the US, and you were harboring him, your ass would be toast. However, if you were outside the US, outside Sweden, and from a US extradition country and provided him safe residence, would that be illegal?
It's nice to think that Interpol and the Hague are just, righteous, and correct in EVERY action they take, but a warrant for Assange at this junction shows me that it's politics as usual. And frankly, shows just how weak the US really is when it comes to playing the moral high card in the name of Democracy.
It's one thing to poke at governments. No one is ever happy with their government. In fact, it's pretty standard to have something bad to say about government and it all gets washed away and forgotten in a short time because there's always a fresh new stink pile being created to distract us from the previous stink pile we all got pissed off about. It's almost fun at times. But when Wikileaks says it is releasing secret data from banks? Well, THOSE are the people who run this planet. There are no election turn-overs or parties to choose from. It's just a bunch of men in dark suits controlling the money supply for the whole world. I think it's about time Assange seeks asylum in China. The bankers are a LOT more serious than governments and politics.
And that gentlemen is why I always video tape my sexual encounters in Sweden... well, maybe not the only reason.
I can understand if he's not willing to talk to the police, that is a good rule to live by when you are innocent. However the "I can't talk to you in person or I'll be shot?" Oh shut up and get over yourself. The man has appeared in public (at TED in July 2010 for example) a number of times. If someone with the resources of a governmetn wanted to kill him, he'd be dead. It is either bluster, ego, or both.
Remember the start of dear old Interpol. It was founded as an organized escape aid for upper echelon Nazis during WWII. Funny how they just could not find Nazis but seem to be able to want to arrest Julian. Who ya gonna believe?
You can tell someone's a sex offender from his looks?
Tell me, how does a hero look? And do you believe everything you see in the idiot-box?
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
Remember all Interpol is is an agency for police cooperation. It is mostly a European thing because of the closeness of the countries and the generally open borders. Realize that they are backed in like US states and while not quite as easy to travel between (at least by ground), they are close. So if someone commits a crime but then can just run to another country, that is a problem. Hence, Interpol. That way a police force can issue a request for help for the others and if any of them find the person in question, they can be detained and gotten back to the country they committed a crime in.
It is only for more serious stuff, as the list someone else provided shows, but sex crimes are taken quite seriously in every developed country I've ever looked at.
Tis the headline.
There's only one way to describe a guy who deposits his semen in a woman against her will...
Is it stud?
He's a menace..... He thinks he's opening up communications and transparency. He's wrong, he'll just drive it deeper and encourage tighter controls and less information sharing across all industries and in government. He's also encouraged a number of people to co-opt their values for his child-like vision of a utopian society of no private information.
TimeOut
The only thing in danger because of these leaks are a lot of careers. So while I don't think anyone's actual life is in danger, quite a few livelihoods are probably at risk.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
Another leak, another sexual harassment charge. What are the odds?
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
"Where in the world is Julian Assange"
this should be amusing. i think the guy likes the notoriety, but he's really going to have to address this issue.
or maybe he can move in with Roman Polanski?
With all the resources of this planet available, and this is the best law enforcement can come up with? Ah, the good old days when the justice department could rationalise the rhetoric of, "it's for the children", or my personal favorite, "doing ... helps terrorists."
Naw, this is blown out of proportion. He might disappear though, to be on the safe side. It's rather ridiculous, like a book, like "1984" by George Orwell, or something like that, but there you have it.
In 20 years, we will hear he's died from natural causes and went mad in the last years, like Fischer.
In the meanwhile, he can serve as our society's Enemy. It's convenient for authorities to create such Enemies, like Obama Bin Laden. They don't really exist, because in reality they are not that powerful as our Overlords, but they're very convenient for them to divert our attention to something that is not really important.
Oh look, someone's alleged of sex-abuse. They've not charged him, since both the girls rather enjoyed it, but they still wanna question him, just not when he agrees to it.
Something is very very rotten here..
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/
Brazil could be a good place for him to hide out at the moment - they have currently have a Federal Congressman who is wanted by Interpol for financial crimes.
There's a difference between not treating women with respect and raping them.
Treating a woman with respect should be the status quo for Assange, if truly "He's a man with a conscience", to quote your own words. That is, unless his conscience sees only governments and corporations and is blind to lowly individuals.
Often you find people who scream the loudest about something are themselves one who do not do as they say. Look at the crazy evangelical preachers that hate on gays, and then turn out to be gay. Hell Ted Haggard called down fire and brimstone on gays and then went to fundie camp to get cured of t3h gay... Twice (really says how well that works). Elliot Spitzer ran on a platform of no corruption, anti-prostitution and so on and then got caught spending public money on $3000 hookers.
That Assanage loves to spill the secrets of others doesn't mean he is the same way. You'll notice that Wikileaks has no part devoted to him. He hasn't released things like childhood photos/essays, financial information, and so on about himself. He is actually a fairly secretive individual, even before this whole blow up. While you can perhaps argue he needs some personal secrecy because governments are after him (personally I believe that is silly, they'd kill him anyhow if they wanted to) you can't argue he needs secrecy over most details of his life (like financial information) other than that most people simply like that to be secret, it isn't the public's business.
He very well may have skeletons in his closet he doesn't want to see the light of day, all while wanting to reveal everyone else's. That such a position is hypocritical would be lost on someone who held it, people rarely if ever can see their own hypocrisy.
So don't assume that he couldn't have done this because he advocated for the transparency of others any more than you should assume he has done it because the Swedish government says he might.
You are right that his actions would be in line with someone who really doesn't have anything to hide, and believes in transparency all the time, but just doesn't think he is that relevant, or perhaps hasn't ever even consider the idea of opening his life up. They would be in line with someone who was falsely accused, and is a bit scared about it because they can't believe it. Well they would equally well be in line with someone with a gigantic ego who has as "Do as I say not as I do," attitude as many people with big egos do. Also committing a sexual crime is very much in line with that as it is an act of your ego saying only you matter, nobody else does.
Either situation could be true, or a combination thereof (he could have a massive ego, not want transparency in his own life, but be perfectly innocent). Don't presume his public platform, his crusade, has anything to do with how he conducts himself personally. We've seen far too many examples of that not matching up in history.
It would appear that either the various governments dislike the current releases and fear what is to come, or that the banks fear the exposure.
One day after Wikileaks release of documents that place many governments in poor light and the announcement of pending release of banking documents an illegal warrant is issued in Sweden. Under EU law charges must be filed before a warrant or want is issued. No charges are filed.
To fuck the US government?
If you can have sex with two women who will later regret it, can I kill a few hundred thousand Muslims and take a big hairy shit on the Constitution and International Law? Awesome!
Oh, wait, those two things are probably not on par, are they? Tell you what... I'll throw in the complete destruction of your civil liberties, and you can have some self righteous celebrity gossip egged on by the establishment.
It's a deal? Awesome!
If I were the prosecutor, I'd make it known that I submitted these charges on a certain, well-publicized site.
People want to believe conspiracies. Character assassination is easy here: back Assange into a corner...
It's time for the gloves to come off... These people don't care how many people die as a result of their rampages.
Soldiers kill thousands of innocent civilians and you say "oh, it doesn't matter, it's just collateral damage". An organisation leaks some heavily redacted information, putting maybe a handful of informants in possible danger (although no deaths have been attributed), and suddenly you care about responsibility towards human life?!?
Should they charge all those who are seeding the documents torrent?
No, better charge the people who make it possible to share the torrents. That's how it's done here in Sweden ..
I wonder what the charges for the guy behind the printing press, the web, IP, Cisco, .. would be.
Heck, Cisco makes lots of money on this Internet thing! They do it for profit! Teh horrorz! Clearly they are assisting crime!
Now that all the shameful things they did are public thanks to wikileaks, they started to do that kind of things in the open, starting with Assange.
They caught Al Capone for tax evasion.
It was obviously not the charge that he was really being arrested for, but it did provide a way to get a very dangerous person off the streets.
In the US, he would get a four game suspension without even having enough evidence to prosecute. Apparently, sending pictures of your junk is even frowned upon now...
No, we're not playing "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego", we're playing Uplink.
The game setting was "High tech computer crime and corporate espionage on the Internet of 2010". The game was written in 2000, and they got just about everything right. Even the date, so it would seem. (Seatac Astronomy indeed :)
In response to Manning's mission to "Copy File" (and a successful "Trace a Hacker" mission performed against Manning with a little help from Lamo :), it seems Assange's incessant runs of "Copy Database" have finally prompted the AI to respond by escalating from this:
Someone just escalated from a mission to do this:
Change Criminal Records:
(Help to discredit one of our rivals)
Ranking: Intermediate
Difficulty Rating: 5
Required Software: Password Breaker, Proxy Bypass/Proxy Disable v1.0, Decypher v1-v3
Connect to the Global Criminal Database (GCD), and click the Log in button. If you have the Proxy Bypass, [ ... ] enter the search section. Enter the Target's name, and wait for it to come up.
If, for your mission, you are required to clear someone's record, simply click the 'Clear Record Button'. Otherwise, enter what ever conviction you need to, and click 'Add'. When you are finished, disconnect from the server, and reply to the mail to receive your money.
Ruin Life:
Mission Description: Highly-skilled agent required for removal job.
Ranking: Knowledgeable
Difficulty Rating: 8
Required Software: Password Breaker, Proxy Bypass/Proxy Disable v1.0, Decypher
"Connect to the Global Criminal Database, and break in as you did in previous missions. Enter the search section, and type the target's name into the search box. When his record comes up, you will need to add 2 criminal convictions (It doesn't matter what, you can have them arrested for anything). Once you have added 2 things, add something with the word 'Parole' in it (i.e. 'Broke Parole'). Once that is done, click the 'Authorise Arrest' button, close the box that pops up, and disconnect from the GCD. Clear your logs, then go to the Uplink News page, and fast forward 3 hours, until the Arrest appears. Once it has, reply to the mail and finish the mission."
(If you remember Uplink, it's worth a quick replay, if for no other reason than to compare the in-game headlines with Slashdot's over the past year or two. If you don't, it's short and cheap enough that it's worth playing. Poking around the website, it looks like Introversion's currently working on something that looks an awful lot like a sequel. WANT!)
He released the names of informants currently IN Iran right now... well unless Iran read the documents and killed them.
We all get that you are happy to see the government brought low... oh wait... they're not changing at all. Just some guy is getting his rocks off on the fame and nothing is changing. Nothing at all.
We're old hands at this shit. Last I checked, the US was on pretty good terms with Sweden, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Sex_scandals_of_the_United_States
Maybe he should move to Switzerland. If the example set by Roman Polanski.is anything to go by, the country's a haven for accused sex offenders.
I hope the guy is wearing a Kevlar vest. He is lucky we have a wimp for a President.
an ill wind that blows no good
From: CIA
To: Woman dating Assange
We will pay out $xxx,xxx for the successful arrest of Assange in Sweeden.
From: Woman dating Assange
To: Swedish Authorities
I was raped.
If he turns wkileaks on himself, won't the program go into 'infinite recursion'?
What? Of course there's a reason for conspiracy. This guy is one of the US Government's least favourite people.
The US has an organization called the CIA. They f**k over people whenever it serves the cause.
They use all kinds of tactics, up to assassination. This guy is comparatively lucky so far.
I don't know the particulars of the case, but a major discrediting of this guy (and thus his organization)
is consistent with an expected multi-pronged response to attempt to prevent/minimize impact of the leaks.
Do you know these women were not paid to lie?
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
I've seen shit like, say, Russia killing a former spy who was not at all in the public eye. If the government wanted to kill him, they'd do it. This "Oh but they'd get me while walking to the courthouse, but not while I'm attending TED," is rather stupid.
I just hope they catch that scum and burn him. Anarchy is good in movies, not in real live, you dipshit!
They only were able to take down Al Capone after charging him with tax evasion.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
Guilty or Not Guilty
Douchebag or not Douchebag
I don't care. I wish we had a person with less baggage running Wikileaks. But after seeing some of the stuff in the documents, where are you ever going to find someone above douchebaggery.
"I am going to miss life, but I won't miss this world"
I assume everyone here will assume hes innocent just because he is their favorite superhero. Sure they went all out using this as an excuse to issue an Interpol warrant when they likely wouldn't have for some lower profile shmuck, but I don't know why people find it so hard to believe he might have sexually coerced two women. He's a vain, self-absorbed megalomaniac with a messiah complex who seems to think the world revolves around him. My karma went from excellent that was built up for years to nothing due to people using orthodoxy points (you know, the things that started as mod points before it became fashionable to enforce groupthink through censorship) to silence me earlier today. For, of all things, simply pointing out he seems only to target the US lately. This is my attempt to see if my karma can go negative before I leave the hivemind that /. has become. Mod away.
glwt
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
At Slashdot, one gets "Troll" mods for saying you like your iPhone, or don't like the iPhone, or you think libertarians are demonstrations of education failure, or you like some random bit of Microsoft technology, or you don't like the GPL. It's certainly possible to get a Troll mod for other reasons, but those are the most common ones.
If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
You can tell someone's a sex offender from his looks?
Tell me, how does a hero look?
You can have sex with women at work by following a few simple rules: 1. Be handsome 2. Be attractive 3. Don't be unattractive
It's obvious that Julian Assange just started wikileaks to distract from all of his sex crimes.So that he could use it as an excuse to the public as to why the cops were looking in to him.
I fail to see why this guy is being hailed as a courageous hero or sorts. 1. Going against the US is actually safer than going against many other countries. 2. Unlike newspaper editors/journalists who incur some/lot effort in gathering info and exposing stuff. this guy has done *nothing*. Some *coward* who atleast in theory is on the side he agreed to is supplying Assange with raw information that he is simply exposing. No effort unlesss you count an ftp as *effort*. 3. All Assange's info is supposed to be true? More importantly, the recent leak, what is it supposed to be other than just embarrassing US diplomats? Do people really think international relations are all black & white boyscout deals? Tell me *one* country which does not say one thing nd act another. Come on, How many times have you people told your *spouse* what you *really* thought ? That's called diplomacy, dears. As for the gulf war stuff, yeah, as if anyone did not know hat the Pakis were playing both sides. US voter does not care and US defence contractors care too much. I will consider Assange brave etc if he does the following: 1. Expose something that embarrasses China, and is seen free for one more week. 2. Say anything that's even mildly embarrassing about Mohammed/Islam/any-Islamic-country, and lives for a month without a fatwa on his head. 3. Expose some low level corruption of a mafia don in India, and live for a week without getting beaten up. or some such. See, compared to all that, US is easy, if you have money for lawyers.
Is this Slashdot: Special Victims Unit now?
Assange wants to act like he's just a whistle blower.
He's not a whistle blower, he's an anarchist. I don't really think he believes he's going to stop war by somehow leveling the playing field. I personally think he's doing this to get even for the perceived notion that this US administration hasn't worked fast enough to get out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Because if he had any real sense he'd realize he could very possibly start a bigger war in the near future.
But he was able to give an interview to Time magazine in which he called for Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, to resign. "She should resign, if it can be shown that she was responsible for ordering US diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the United Nations, in violation of the international covenants to which the US has signed up. Yes, she should resign over that," he said.
Nice job of pot calling kettle--he's doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. He is also committing acts of espionage.
What surprises me is two things: 1) Surely they would have better charges than this they could use against him. 2) Why has no one been able to sink Wiki Leaks. A couple of DOS attacks? Surely if any major governmental power had wanted to, they would have "sunk his battleship" by now.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
1. Rights to Assination ... otherwise known as Murder. This he claims covers any person, any person on Earth, or even those in the International Space Station.
2. Rights to Impressionment ... if for some reason Obama does not kill his foe .... he will have agencies of the United States of America make arrest and have the said person impressioned indeffinitely.
Obama layed out his claims in a speach, given to Richard Cheney, and at which time Richard Cheney, ... weeped.
Richard Cheney is the "in title" former Vice President of the United States of America ... however .... he was in fact the ... Acting President of the United States of America ... George "Johnny" Walker Bush was .... shall we say ... a bit under the bottle at the time(s).
So the Onis, is on Obama!
What to do Obama-kun (?) ... think ... think .... think.
Ah Ha!
Obama can certainly get happless Jeff Bezos arrested ... beaten up ... and killed ... by our Star ... Barak Hussain Obama! ... on Prime Time Tee Wee!
Genius Obama!
One might be deeply suspect of people who attempt to deflect the rational discourse of such charged topics, but for some reason the converse tends to be the general response.
If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Are you suggesting that character assassination is more becoming of politicians or are you suggesting that by definition of class there is an inherent bias in judging government action?
Hey buddy, can i bum a karma? ~}CinderellaManson{~
"Today a spokesman for Britain's Serious Organised Crime Agency..."
Oh.. my.. god. If this isn't the beginning a Monty Python sketch, I don't know what is.
They will possibly delay and/or undermine future leaks.
If he doesn't have anything to hide, then he should be willing to have a trial....what? Doesn't anyone else expect him to have the same attitude to his own life that he expects others to have?
Of course I fully expect to be modded down because of the insane hero worship of this guy.
This has nothing to do with my rights online. In fact, it has nothing to do with Assange's rights online.
is an anagram for
Iguanas Anal Juleps
and
Japans Sealing Luau
Which means a couple of things: the Japanese need to learn that the harming of marine wildlife is NOT a party. And iguanas should not be given anything rectally. But most importantly, the anagrams show that Julian Paul Assange is obviously a CIA agent.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
can you cite an example of someone who is put directly at risk due to these releases?
Because I can cite thousands of casualties that might be averted due to public awareness of some of these things.
I find it hard to reconcile your opinion with reality.
Just saying....
He was in Sweden and prosecution waited until he left Sweden to start making demands. Probably specifically to get Interpol involved and limit his movements. You knew this guy was going to get nailed for what he was doing. This is the beginning. Paint him as a child molester because nobody feels bad for one of those. A classic first step. Limit his movements, deny him places to be. Eventually he'll wind up somewhere with an extradition treaty and that will be that.
Also, if there are any Interpol people who happen to read this - I know of an actual child molester you could go pick up pretty easy if this is the sort of thing that actually interests you.
No? Not interested? Hypocrisy. Imagine that.
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rediculous.
Yes, journalism has really sunk to new lows all-around, and now people like Julian have to do their work for them.
Who is "them"? Journalists? That's what I thought Assange was. Perhaps you mean the papers. We're already witnessing the death of traditional media in other forms; here's just one more. NYT goes paywall, journalism goes "illegal" (or so the powers-that-be tell us.) Welcome to the new fascism.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The way I see it, governments kill all kinds of people directly and indirectly in secret--and the U.S. has a particularly rich history of this. As such, I want every government's secrets to be plastered everywhere. The number of people that may conceivably die as a result of these leaks is absolutely nothing compared to what has been done in secret for decades. Of course, I'm a pacifist and an anarchist, so I consider the idea of having to balance secrecy and disclosure so that the state can continue to exist in its preferred form (I believe it's called "national security") kind of moot. YMMV.
So you already know this to be true, and what, nobody believes you, or what's the goal of plastering these "secrets" everywhere? No, I get it.. then we'd all be really, really, really, sure we weren't just imagine these things happen, and others would take us seriously, and future assassinations will be never carried out in secrecy. Wait, or no assassinations? Should we openly do what we're accusing them of doing or should they not do what we openly think they're doing anyway. fuck me I'm lost.
No, I get you though, if we blow this thing wide open, then we'll be _certain_ what we think is happening really is. Then.. we'll well, we'll be sure of it, that's for sure.
The Net is biting the "information society" in the ass.
I kind of like it, but it is probably also the seminal moment of the worldwide Panopticon.
We will never be private again.
haha there doesn't seem to be any pulling the wool over /. crowd on this one, but is any one in any country falling for it ? i don't know its not on the news in this one...
> These people don't care how many people die as a result of their rampages.
Funny, at first I thought you meant the US army. Then I realized you meant their critics.
How should we trial the people behind the atrocities committed in Iraq and surroundings?
If I were an Ecuadorian citizen I would be protesting as loudly as possible to thwart the attempts to offer Julian shelter there. I mean, look what happened to Afghanistan for not handing over Osama.
If I were Julian I would politely refuse their offer citing the same reason.
We're not in a post-government world. We're in a government by the corporations, for the people world. Entirely different.
Despite crazy talk to the contrary, Apple is in no position to arrest you for impugning the honor of Steve Jobs.
The reason I think the elimination of these secrets will be a good thing is that there are a lot of people who earnestly believe that "we" are the "good guys" who don't do things like that. The government maintains its apple pie home-baked goodness image, insisting that it's always the other guys that are the bad-people-du-jour who are out to kill us because they hate our freedom or something like that. When you reveal the kinds of evil the government does to other people, then folks can start to see why (or even if) "they" are actually fighting "us" instead of what the propaganda machine spouts all the time. The more people get to see reality, the more they will no longer be able to hide in their fantasy worlds that help them sleep soundly at night. But I'm confused. Are you trying to say that you don't know all the crap the U.S. government has done (if this is the case, read a history book; no wacky conspiracy theories necessary), or are you simply trying to say that you don't care, or that you think it is pointless to publicize it regardless of if it's right or wrong? (Honest question. I really don't know exactly what you were trying to get at in your comment.)
I believe is very possible that the secret services may send someone specially to have sex with Asange so that they may blackmail or discredit him. This happened in a lot of cases and with a lot of important people throughout the history. So why not now? In this case who can say what happened during the sexual act? Maybe they had a web cam recording :P ? The only difference will be made by their statements, so a very good chance to discredit him (a spy can very easily convince some random prosecutors, otherwise they won't be spies)
I'm not saying that it is true nor false but it's clear that the whole situation stinks.
Anyway I think the chances of these accusations against Assange being completely unrelated to the leak and the timing being coincidental are pretty slim.
Except that the accusations were first floated weeks ago, at around the time of the Reuters correspondent murder leak. Anyway, it would be unfortunate timing, but being a politically interesting person doesn't give you a free pass. Other posters have called for great scrutiny and impartial judges, but that only works if it's a planted accusation and not a real one.
I am one of many. My idea is not unique, nor do I expect my voice alone to sway you. I speak in a chorus of opinion.
Oh. Now that the second big dump of potentially damaging information from primarily American sources is coming out, Julian Assange is bad guy number 1, and no expense must be spared to keep him from prison or something....something....anything. After all, he, or his group or whatever have embarrassed so many people, so high up. I mean DAMMIT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! And, and our boys over there could be in danger or something, and and what kind of American would post this kind of stuff anyway, and and DAMMIT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! We can't have this guy going around and posting ..... well what diplomats have actually said, embarrassing stuff to the government and endangering our boys over there or something and DAMMIT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! So Julian Assange must be bad guy number 1, on sex crimes or something, and while we are at it, the DDoS attack on WikiLeaks can continue, and we won't stop it because, we umm don't know where its coming from and besides, DAMMIT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! So there you have it. Tried, sentenced and convicted. I mean sure those people really said those things, but, you know, thats just the way diplomats say 'I'm Funky with that' or "I'm not down with that", but, you know in more plain language, and its, its not right what he did with that leak and so he's a rapist or something, and DAMMIT, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
No, it's not unreasonable. They turned down doing an interview by video camera, because if the questioning should warrant an arrest, there would no way to arrest him over video conferencing. This is entirely reasonable.
This is unreasonable and inconsistent. First if there is no way to arrest him if they decide it is needed after interviewing him then what is this international arrest warrant? They seem to think it is possible to arrest him BEFORE they have even interviewed him.
Secondly how is it reasonable to expect someone to attend police questioning at considerable expense to themselves? He has not yet been found guilty of a crime or even charged with a crime. If they offer to cover his travel expenses then fine but to expect him to pay them himself is not reasonable just to satisfy their curiosity during an investigation, especially after they have already interviewed him and told him that he was free to leave the country.
Finally why don't the Swedish police send the interviewer to the UK (assuming that is where he is)? There is a good deal of cooperation between EU police and I've heard of many cases on the news where UK police have visited other European countries to interview and collect evidence for cases based back in the UK. If he is willing to cooperate, as he claims, then what is the problem?
I have no idea whether or not he is guilty of what he is accused but the Swedish authorities seem to be behaving in a completely unreasonable manner.
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- Not wearing a Condom?
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Be a fair few of us clogging up the Interpol lists shortly, all I can say - regardless, the Swedes need a European Arrest Warrant for inter-European extradition. For that, they need to actually CHARGE Assange with SOMETHING.
Then, of course, one could prepare a legal defence, based upon that charge - an outcome which simply does not (and never seems to have been) the intended result here. Surpised they haven't just seized the WL domain, actually - doubtless, happen at some point under the "Restitution to State (US) Victims of As Yet Undefined Crimes" Act 2011.
In other news, the War with Eurasia continues.
Any money shes a CIA asset.
Theres 100000s of em, very likely.
They should rename the CIA to the MAFCIA.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
Explanation 1) Assange is clearly damaged goods. It looks like the girls he's been having sex with are also damaged goods, it's hardly surprising for a couple of them to get together and start boiling his bunny. And I'm sure the CIA will be happy to lend them a few kroner to hire a top lawyer. Hilary Clinton has $100k she made "trading commodities", perhaps she could lend them some money.
Explanation 2) He did actually rape them, the lawyer is doing it for free or they are rich.
Explanation 3) The CIA persuaded them to lie and raise a case, or they are CIA operatives.
The news reached me just after I finished reading an enlightening (for me) essay on the motivation behind WikiLeaks. In short, it explains, quoting from Assange's previous writings (pdf), that his goal is no less than creating a worldwide environment in which the costs of securing information exchange in a conspiracy, governmental, corporational or any other, are driven so high as to render it uncompetitive as an information processing entity. The increased transparency will have the effect of raising the government accountability and lowering the competitiveness of unethical companies (by raising the reputational costs, see also this Forbes interview). And, as the author of the essay writes: if the diplomats quoted by Le Monde are right that “we will never again be able to practice diplomacy like before,” he's already succeeding.
Well, in the democracy I live in (and I'm not happy about it, but that's another story) there's this principle I agree with: it's better to let a killer get away than to punish someone innocent. Do you have anything against this principle?
I am Julian Assange and I am currently in Germany. Come and find me!
Revealing secret of US embassy, or a few bad stuff in Afghanistan/Irak, is nothing. it is embarrassing, it makes a few politics and general squirm, but that is it. Most of the saber rattling like convict of spying will be dropped.
On the other hand he announced he will reveal BANK secrets, where potentially rich and powerful people are involved in bad handling and bank themselves have done a lot of bad stuff. Want to reveal it next year. Now that *IS* something for which people would kill for. I don't expect him to survive and reveal anything, or I expect the whole organization to be bought out.
It is 1988. Salmun Rushdie just published his book and pissed of Hezbollah. Salmun Rushdie goes into hiding. A Lebanon woman claims Salmun has raped her but her claim is dismissed by the court. However, Britain now sends out a Interpol for Salmun's arrest for this rape. "Well, if he is innocent he should come out of hiding and stand trial right?" "What... could... possibly... go... wrong?" USA, Guantanamo bay, CIA Flights, Home Land Security. Seems like a reasonable country.
This is a question no one has asked, maybe because the no one is interested in the answer. Assuming (and that is a big assumption) there is a legal case to be answered and that he is charged with X, could he get a fair trial after all this? No, he couldn't. It would be a show trial. The whole farce has brought Sweden and the Swedish legal system into disrepute. As someone has said, he has become the latest Enemy (a la Goldstein) to distract people.
I've read through all of the comments on here, and I'm really sad. I don't visit here for up to date news, I can get that elsewhere; I come here for the discussions. But so many of the commenters here are scarily uninformed. And where they're not informed, many of them seem poisoned.
This is a geek site - we're supposed to be able to view information objectively and without being tainted by unrelated information. This reads more like a political forum :(
Firstly, these accusations stem from months ago, so this has nothing to do with the most leak. Sweden have been pursuing the interviews and warrants for a number of weeks now.
Secondly, what's with all of the conspiracy nuts here ? Why is everyone second guessing his reasons for not wanting to go in and talk to the police ?
He offered to go in repeatedly when he was still in the country. When his residence claim was denied, he asked if there was any reason he had to stay in the country and he was told that he was free to leave. So he did. Now he's in another country, and he's _still_ offering to talk to them but he's not prepared to schlepp back there - that's not unreasonable, is it?
if she regrets it in the morning she can then claim it was rape, on the grounds that you had sex while her judgement was too impaired by the alcohol to consent.
OTOH, she cannot tell the judge she was too drunk to know what she was doing if she picks the car keys and drives it.
WTF? Drinking is supposed to require judgement for one act and not for another? If she's afraid of rape, then she should have a non-drinking designated chaperone with her, who will take her home when she's too drunk to use her judgement.
And by the sheer sound that you make I can tell you're a stinking asshole.
for much less of what Assange did.
In Guantanamo and other illegal detention centers around the world, without trial and elementary human rights guarantee, persons abducted by the US and other countries governments are incarcerated for much less that this journalist is doing.
The most foolish thing he could ever do is to go to the authorities of any country; if he do so, he will be in jail for a long time.
There was a time when everyone knew what rape was. Someone forces you to have sex, often with violence or the threat of it. The victim resists unless they are so frightened that they cannot move.
Over the years, man haters and sensitive spirits have expanded the definition to encompass as much sexual activity as possible. For the most part this redefinition has been carried out by zealots out of the public eye and without consideration of public opinion. When trying to get public support all they needed to do was tout the magic word 'rape' and they got all the support they needed to push through their changes - all without the need for them to explain that they were then operating with a new definition for the word 'rape' which would have left many people dumbfounded had they been told.
Now, if you make a pass at a person, male or female, and follow through to full sex, that person, in some jurisdictions, can bring a charge of rape against you - because there was no 'consent'. In practice, the jury know what a daft piece of nonsense the legislation is and they generally find the accused not guilty unless there really was a rape in the old meaning of the word. The zealots are not happy with that and want to skew the game even further in their favour. In the UK for instance the fact that few accused are found guilty of rape is taken by the zealots as evidence that guilty rapists are getting off free, rather than the equally plausible alternative explanation which is that the false accusers are getting away with it.
It is in the nature of relationships that one party, usually the man but not always, pursues the other. The man is barely considered a man unless he makes the first move; makes a pass at the prospective mate. Literature is full of such references and Hollywood films would be empty without such characters. But anyone with an axe to grind can now accuse those men of rape or assault and drag their name through the mud.
What was considered to be a normal part of the process of establishing a relationship can now, if the other party so chooses, now be used to bring a charge against the prospective partner. The only way to avoid the possibility of being accused of rape or assault is to enter into a businesslike, and wholly unnatural, negotiation before the event to discuss the terms and conditions of the encounter.
What awful people they are who have brought about these circumstances. They are the true haters.
Mr. Assange learned very hard lesson in publicity: No matter how benevolent you or others think your actions may be, the moment you do something incredibly stupid (like commit a sex crime), your world will effectively implode. In this case, his world imploded to dimensions of about 6x8 feet. Undoubtedly, there will be some hard-core conspiracy theorists who will say this is the work of the U.S. Government, and that is a very satisfying belief, but it doesn't take into account the following facts: 1) The claimant is not an American, and does not have any interest in silencing Assange (aside from the crimes he is accused of), 2) The investigation was conducted by the neutral Swedish government, 3) The evidence collected in the criminal investigation of the victim's claims has nothing to do with Assange's release of classified documents. Regardless of the evidence collected, Assange and his supporters will claim that he did not get a fair trial if convicted. However, evidence does not change when the verdict is issued, and for there to be enough compelling evidence for an arrest warrant to be issued, there has to be a substantial amount. Julian Assange has demonstrated the type of personality that is Self-Righteous and accepts benevolence based on what *he* thinks is right. Someone ought to give Mr. Assange a dose of his own medicine: LEAK ALL OF HIS PERSONAL INFORMATION!
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
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Via wikileaks twitter: Canadian Harper advisor calls for the assassination of Julian Assange http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqtIafdoH_g
Make love, not war. It's interesting that you take a case where, at the very least to begin with, was consentual sex that can result in a new human life and then ask that since that is allowed, can you kill people, removing human life and extending suffering.
It's not like you're saying "so don't believe someone who says I killed muslims".
I bet you're lousy in bed.
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"Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries..."
How the hell did "maybe had rough sex in Sweden" get elevated to the Interpol level?
No sig today...
Minute 12:30-13:20. Assange: "...This is why we called it Collatoral Murder"
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a person is being sought by interpol for exposing filthy doings of governments which the citizens should be knowing in the first place. not to mention that, those things should not have been actually done.
this should show what kind of charade, storefront, lie, water vapor our modern western 'democracy' is. a lie.
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LMAO, and another one served up *smokin' hot* right here too.
those two women have declared that the affair was VOLUNTARY. both of them. not to mention that, they have never filed any rape charges, they just went to seek counsel from police after finding out that he slept with BOTH of them. both word stressed here, and should make you understand what's going on.
even still, the women had filed no charges. but, for some reason, despite initial prosecutor had closed the case. another, irrelevant prosecutor's office had decided that it should again open the case.
you get what's going on now ?
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Why is everyone behind Julian. I see news reporters and people after him but he's just the messenger of the mistakes and careless actions of other beings/institutions. I've even saw articles telling that FBI and other bureaus will tighten their security. It's not about hiding that you are a bastard, it should be about not being a bastard in the first place.
BTW, this is not off-topic, because this type of articles seems to be part of a de-prestige campaign to a man with it's website.
Did he personally break into US government buildings at 2am to steal these...?
If anybody's guilty of espionage it's whoever got hold of the documents and sent them to Wikileaks. This whole thing is just a case of pissed off governments sitting down with their law books open and saying "what can we get him for?"
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and it would instantly manufacture 100+ wannabees who all would be wanting to be next julian assanges.
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you are an idiot moron which doesnt have enough cognitive power to realize that that guy is exposing innumerable filthy dealings and BETRAYAL to citizens by their government, something which all the journalists of the world failed to do up until now.
and, you are getting your fix from shitty right wing news organizations, which especially dont like what that guy is exposing being coming out. hence, you are not only stupid, but also, gullible too.
good for you !!!
how's that for an entitled opinion ? it is as valid as yours.
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He raped dozens of governments which has been raping their people behind their backs and lying to them.
good for him !! we need more rapists like him on this planet !!
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The US was aware of the Iraq leak before it was leaked, and recent news has repeatedly stated that the most recent leaks have been known to the US government for months. They knew he was the head of Wikileaks prior to the case, and they most likely knew there were leaks damaging to the US on the way.
This doesn't mean that he's been set up.. but your post hasn't shed light on anything. This involvement from Interpol does raise eyebrows. It's worthwhile to investigate the possibility of corruption in parallel to his case.
When there are 1 TB flash drives, WiFi webcams, microphones smaller than a coin, communication lines of 1 GB/s, the secrets are just not possible anymore. It is the global village where everybody knows everything.
Why not to write cables in a respective tone in the first place? The great English language allows to express any thought without being insulting or rude. Why not let diplomats be diplomats, follow the Geneva convention, etc. It is not that difficult.
I am not sure which Slashdot you have been reading, but like every other public forum on the internet it is full of conspiracy nutjobs. Any story that involves the US, politics or the military draws them like flies from both sides. Why consider simple coincidence as an explanation when a complex conspiracy theory will do instead? Just think of all the time and brainpower wasted coming up with a lot of this crap. The internet has turned into an international soapbox for nutcases, little more than a rumor mill.
But, that's enough of my yackin' --- let's boogie!
This is a pointless debate on /.
It have proven effective in the past, so why not this time?
It does seem rather strange that the sex charges appeared just after WikiLeaks was announced, and that the original girl in question officially denied any knowledge of it, but the charges remains, apparently this time with an anonymous complaint...
And yes, it is blatant character assassination. Just wait till he is found apparently after a suicide with a note denouncing his work...
People, you need to realized that Assange still hasn't been charged with anything.
This type of INTERPOL thing is apparently for suspicious people who have disappeared and if the police see them, they should notify Sweden where they are. That's it. he is 'wanted', but not in the sense of 'arrest him'. He's wanted for questioning.
Assanage has not disappeared. Everyone knows exactly where he is. He's offered to participate in questioning.
This is a nonsensical INTERPOL request, and it was issued so Sweden could repeat the 'Assange is a rapist' claim, despite the fact that, so far, they still haven't put up any actual charges he could actually go before a judge and fight.
This is the plan, do this for months, and then stop. Without any resolution at all. No charges, no verdict, no nothing. Just months of Sweden repeating that he's a rapist.
And it will forever be 'Accused rapist Assange today release more information...'.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Alleged fascist and suspected CIA asset
Tom Flanagan,
University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta
Office: Social Sciences 706
Email: tflanaga AT ucalgary.ca
Phone: (403) 220-8225
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Maybe he knows the Powerpuff Girls?
bah.
I wonder if the ladies were paid to lie... were there any other witnesses?
I accuse you of being a rapist! And if you don't have anything to hide, you should be willing to go to trial... what? You don't want your life ruined by scurrilous allegations? Shut up and fly (at your own expense) to whatever country I designate so we can interrogate you.
Get the picture?
I haven't yet read a comment about another possible loss of life. With the upcoming coporatism-related leaks, there will be names of responsible top officers and such... prime targets for a new group of people without jobs who have a lot less to lose thanks to corporations' effects as of late. However, I can't say I feel sorry about it.
in the end this kind of smear campaign will easily fool the majority of uninformed people out there.
Yes and the US Government doesn't care how many people die as a result of their rampages and never have. The US has been killing people for over 500 years still this doesn't matter to you. One question. Have you ever been in a fire fight? Have you ever been in war and watched you friends die over some country's lies? I have. Our political leaders are the ones that need to be tried for war crimes. Hopefully this leak will lead to that. The soldier that leaked this stuff needs to be given a medal!
There is no freedom of speech in China at all. Someone got jailed because of a tweet.
life is short, learn more.
Dude: Chicks can TELL when you're wearing a "Jimmy Hat" or not. I asked many (of 1000's I have been with sexually in my lifetime, which is why I am posting as anonymous here) if they liked sex better with condoms or not, and they all told me "it feels much better when men do not wear one" so, in other words? They know!
Women also do not like the "dulled feeling", for lack of a better expression here, anymore than you do that condom use gives to sex (unfortunately) versus not using a condom (be honest with yourself, it's a "night vs. day" difference). However, women deal with it, and mainly because it's life or death nowadays and for decades now due to AIDS is why, just like you do.
However, personally though, as far as Julian Assange?
I don' t think the man raped anyone, and mainy because it's a little TOO convenient that "pops up" all of a sudden once J. Assange and wikileaks were ready to unload their "leaked gov't. cables" which the U.S gov't. is even now * threatening their own employees to not read them, or else it's your job * - CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT?
(Talk about both scenarios reeking of desperation and fear on the gov't. and their corporate masters' part.)
I win.
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I just happened to stumble upon this article on the topic, which notes that in the United States, the legal implications of the particular alleged events vary, significantly, by state. (The legal implications, of course, may differ from the moral implications. Nonetheless the article seems interesting and relevant.)
Is _sex by surprise_ illegal in the United States?
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No, I gave you my name which is not plain, in this sense you cower as a matter of substance, so tell me why I have done this when the information was available to you? Was it simply to satisfy your lazy curiosity or have you a point?
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