And they are repugnant to human nature... (healthy) humans want to create, and make things. You can't create or make better code if you are locked out of it. This is the thing that started the idea for the FSF in the first place.
Too bad this endorsement mark is really about promoting FSF and settling old scores, rather than being about promoting users' freedom.
Negative, it is about being true to the FSF ideals and not old scores. His reason for saying it is GNU/Linux is due to the harms to software freedom that just saying Linux has caused, and forsaking the hard work the GNU project has done. Please read the lecture by him below for details...
I don't think he bows a gasket when someone says Linux. (I have seen him respond to someone who just said Linux and didn't mention their saying GNU.) He accepts people will say what they want, he just asks they call it GNU/Linux due to the harm he sees in just calling it Linux. As for the "Works with BSD", I would say he may be against it. The reason being related to the advertising clause that is in the original (ironically also) BSD license. As he explained in a lecture (linked below) many software authors using different code with different advertising clauses would mean upteen (I think he says one would had 76) different adverts in it, which is a silly requirement. Of course, he may be just fine as long as it is a FSF endorsed license (which the original BSD license was not, for the reasons explained I think), since it really is all about the four software freedoms and if it is FSF endorse it avoids those issues... That information is also explained in the link below.
Or maybe you are completely wrong. MAYBE, it is about not promoting proprietary software with their endorsement on it. If they did endorse it, it would kind of go against everything they stand for. Who said it will not work with windows just because it didn't promote it with their badge, aka quasi-logo? True, not seeing the logo may mean lost sales. But it will mean a possible leader due to a head-start once the idea takes off. At one time, not many thought there would be free software either.... but progress has been made. The FSF now has enemies who feel threatened, possibly due that their evil ways may lose in the end.
As CyprusBlue stated above you, they would probably be fine with a compatibility table. The badges represent locking you into proprietary software. The FSF believes that one should avoid proprietary software period. That isn't to say that they want to tell someone they "can't" use Winblows, but they will not endorse anything that promotes using closed software. I see their point, and whole heatedly agree. If you haven't seen it, reading this lecture by Richard Stallman may help you see it from their point of view.
I agree as well. I started reading Slashdot and loved the comments on the subjects. They are what really helped me to understand things. Now, it is just people trying to be funny or assholes. I contemplated putting down funny a few notches as everything is now rated funny, which means that I could miss things I want to see as well. I may do it anyway.
I had to go to the options and select normal releases, as only LTS releases was checked. It may be due to the fact that 10.04 was a LTS and they figure the default is better not to notify of an upgrade, just in case someone did not mean to. Of course I may have set it that way, but I don't know why "I" would.
Not that I disbelieve you, but can you link to where he ripped off of his friends? I support Norml.org and just wanted to get a link on the front page of Slashdot. Of course this submission was accepted, so there you go. I now wish I had done more research on Dustin Moskovitz first, however.
I found that Windows 7 ran better on the girlfriend's old dell, compared to a fresh install and upgrade to service pack 3. Upgrading the drivers made no real notice improvement. I can see where Windows 7 could run worse on certain or really old hardware, but I think if it isn't too slow to begin with Windows 7 is definately snappier than XP with the bloated service pack 3. SP2 was great, but 3 is just downright sluggish in comparison on said hardware. Maybe she was "lucky" too, but I doubt it, and even if so still speaks to how Windows 7 is better at least in this instance... And I do like the interface better as well. It was a change, but less than one to Ubuntu from XP, although Win 7 and Ubuntu (With Compiz) remind me of a lot of each other...
I am a Firefox lover and what it stands for. However, even though I am not sure it is a few add-ons or what, I no longer get excited about what new (if not often completely transparent to me) is being brought to the table with each update unless it is speed and optimizations. The memory leak thing was horrible and I knew something was wrong long before it was begun to be publicly addressed and I just a user, not a programmer. OK, so the themeing stuff looks good if that is your thing, but lets stay focused here. IE sucks, and Firefox was THE answer since it was open and powerful, yet as simple as you wanted by not using said add-ons. I was never hesitant to recommend it. The only reason why I don't recommend something else is because even if I like Google, privacy is a big concern. With nobody RTFA here, we know John Doe doesn't RTFM or even more importantly the EULA. Other than that (because people are wising up a bit with privacy concerns if not due to Facebook in the news and even then..) Chrome is definitely posing a major threat. But we all know this and has been covered including that Google was something like 80-90% if I recall correctly, the income for Mozilla. Just sad really, nothing good ever lasts.
Maybe, but maybe not. When did we start this discussion on how much cable companies and broadband sucks again? lol Yea, since Hulu and Netflix I watch much more T.V. (period, but online) Okay, well maybe less, but that 1 1/2 - 2 year stretch of every Simpson's episode from start to finish took up a bunch of my time. Finishing up Prison break with about 6 episodes left now...
Much better than me telling him to visualize a trampoline and a bowling ball and a marble (You would have to know my father.) to understand the concept of curvature of space. They may use the same example, but the presentation is much better than I care to do.
It really isn't that hard of a job. (normally) If you can't do it yourself, perhaps you know of someone that can prep it for the cable guy for a few bucks, or if you are lucky a six pack.
Please allow me to introduce you to a website that (I have heard...) sports fans like. It may not be up you alley, but if you have broadband, it may be. http://myp2p.eu/
Indeed, I found a big difference. For someone like my pop who didn't realize until I told him that objects fall at the same speed regardless of weight in a gravity field, understanding gravity and Einstein's theories are significantly easier with some good presentation. I found that with Discovery Science (for his level, with my often further explanation), but again this was + 4 1/2 years ago. Occasionally watching it with him I would learn a few things since I am not an astronomer or astrophysicist, but yes most of it I already do. But hey, learning the name of the newest, biggest star (or whatever) is still cool to me, even though I don't follow it closely.
Unfortunately I still am dealing with them over Internet service, but maybe in time things will get better. That is I meant to say that in time perhaps my other options will get better.
Sure, I miss not getting shows that friends talk about at work, but I have other ways. And with Hulu and Netflix, I rely on those other ways less and less, if at all. I want to pay for my content, but not everyone else's. Watching the fiasco's with Disney and ESPN (among others over the years), I was glad that I wasn't involved and getting suckered.
For me, it began over watching the Discovery Science channel. It was channel 101 and suddenly just out of my lineup range. I had been trying to explain to my father (who lived with me) science concepts, as he was opening up more and showing interest. The TV shows's imagery and hosts could often explain things better than I could, and I might learn something new as well. My free trial was over, and so I called Adelphia (now Comcast) up. They said that not only would I have to forsake my special rate of something like $35 for the next 6 months (I think I had it for a year total) I would have to pay for digital cable and also the first additional digital package. So, for 1 channel they wanted me to almost triple my bill to $95. My next words were, "Cut it off."
Unfortunately I still am dealing with them over Internet service, but maybe in time things will get better.
It's a figure of speech, "the old adage." Now on the end of surveys there should be a NeutronCowboy option instead of a Cowboy Neal because of your big head. (I kid, I kid.)
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They will when they start to see it on the box.... chicken, or egg? In this case, the chicken must first lay some eggs in order to have company.
And they are repugnant to human nature... (healthy) humans want to create, and make things. You can't create or make better code if you are locked out of it. This is the thing that started the idea for the FSF in the first place.
Too bad this endorsement mark is really about promoting FSF and settling old scores, rather than being about promoting users' freedom.
Negative, it is about being true to the FSF ideals and not old scores. His reason for saying it is GNU/Linux is due to the harms to software freedom that just saying Linux has caused, and forsaking the hard work the GNU project has done. Please read the lecture by him below for details...
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/transcripts/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html
I don't think he bows a gasket when someone says Linux. (I have seen him respond to someone who just said Linux and didn't mention their saying GNU.) He accepts people will say what they want, he just asks they call it GNU/Linux due to the harm he sees in just calling it Linux. As for the "Works with BSD", I would say he may be against it. The reason being related to the advertising clause that is in the original (ironically also) BSD license. As he explained in a lecture (linked below) many software authors using different code with different advertising clauses would mean upteen (I think he says one would had 76) different adverts in it, which is a silly requirement. Of course, he may be just fine as long as it is a FSF endorsed license (which the original BSD license was not, for the reasons explained I think), since it really is all about the four software freedoms and if it is FSF endorse it avoids those issues... That information is also explained in the link below.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/transcripts/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html
Or maybe you are completely wrong. MAYBE, it is about not promoting proprietary software with their endorsement on it. If they did endorse it, it would kind of go against everything they stand for. Who said it will not work with windows just because it didn't promote it with their badge, aka quasi-logo? True, not seeing the logo may mean lost sales. But it will mean a possible leader due to a head-start once the idea takes off. At one time, not many thought there would be free software either.... but progress has been made. The FSF now has enemies who feel threatened, possibly due that their evil ways may lose in the end.
As CyprusBlue stated above you, they would probably be fine with a compatibility table. The badges represent locking you into proprietary software. The FSF believes that one should avoid proprietary software period. That isn't to say that they want to tell someone they "can't" use Winblows, but they will not endorse anything that promotes using closed software. I see their point, and whole heatedly agree. If you haven't seen it, reading this lecture by Richard Stallman may help you see it from their point of view.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/transcripts/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html
I agree as well. I started reading Slashdot and loved the comments on the subjects. They are what really helped me to understand things. Now, it is just people trying to be funny or assholes. I contemplated putting down funny a few notches as everything is now rated funny, which means that I could miss things I want to see as well. I may do it anyway.
I had to go to the options and select normal releases, as only LTS releases was checked. It may be due to the fact that 10.04 was a LTS and they figure the default is better not to notify of an upgrade, just in case someone did not mean to. Of course I may have set it that way, but I don't know why "I" would.
Not that I disbelieve you, but can you link to where he ripped off of his friends? I support Norml.org and just wanted to get a link on the front page of Slashdot. Of course this submission was accepted, so there you go. I now wish I had done more research on Dustin Moskovitz first, however.
I wish an American ISP would take this stance... but who are you? Why your the Tin-Man, and you where there too toto... ohhh it was all a dream!
I found that Windows 7 ran better on the girlfriend's old dell, compared to a fresh install and upgrade to service pack 3. Upgrading the drivers made no real notice improvement. I can see where Windows 7 could run worse on certain or really old hardware, but I think if it isn't too slow to begin with Windows 7 is definately snappier than XP with the bloated service pack 3. SP2 was great, but 3 is just downright sluggish in comparison on said hardware. Maybe she was "lucky" too, but I doubt it, and even if so still speaks to how Windows 7 is better at least in this instance... And I do like the interface better as well. It was a change, but less than one to Ubuntu from XP, although Win 7 and Ubuntu (With Compiz) remind me of a lot of each other...
I came just to say this.
Yes, where Louisianna is last.
/ Louisianna native
I am a Firefox lover and what it stands for. However, even though I am not sure it is a few add-ons or what, I no longer get excited about what new (if not often completely transparent to me) is being brought to the table with each update unless it is speed and optimizations. The memory leak thing was horrible and I knew something was wrong long before it was begun to be publicly addressed and I just a user, not a programmer. OK, so the themeing stuff looks good if that is your thing, but lets stay focused here. IE sucks, and Firefox was THE answer since it was open and powerful, yet as simple as you wanted by not using said add-ons. I was never hesitant to recommend it. The only reason why I don't recommend something else is because even if I like Google, privacy is a big concern. With nobody RTFA here, we know John Doe doesn't RTFM or even more importantly the EULA. Other than that (because people are wising up a bit with privacy concerns if not due to Facebook in the news and even then..) Chrome is definitely posing a major threat. But we all know this and has been covered including that Google was something like 80-90% if I recall correctly, the income for Mozilla. Just sad really, nothing good ever lasts.
Maybe, but maybe not. When did we start this discussion on how much cable companies and broadband sucks again? lol
Yea, since Hulu and Netflix I watch much more T.V. (period, but online) Okay, well maybe less, but that 1 1/2 - 2 year stretch of every Simpson's episode from start to finish took up a bunch of my time. Finishing up Prison break with about 6 episodes left now...
"2)" would in time lead to shows that didn't have such hard commercial breaks. Wouldn't that be nice?
Much better than me telling him to visualize a trampoline and a bowling ball and a marble (You would have to know my father.) to understand the concept of curvature of space. They may use the same example, but the presentation is much better than I care to do.
It really isn't that hard of a job. (normally) If you can't do it yourself, perhaps you know of someone that can prep it for the cable guy for a few bucks, or if you are lucky a six pack.
Please allow me to introduce you to a website that (I have heard...) sports fans like. It may not be up you alley, but if you have broadband, it may be. http://myp2p.eu/
Indeed, I found a big difference. For someone like my pop who didn't realize until I told him that objects fall at the same speed regardless of weight in a gravity field, understanding gravity and Einstein's theories are significantly easier with some good presentation. I found that with Discovery Science (for his level, with my often further explanation), but again this was + 4 1/2 years ago. Occasionally watching it with him I would learn a few things since I am not an astronomer or astrophysicist, but yes most of it I already do. But hey, learning the name of the newest, biggest star (or whatever) is still cool to me, even though I don't follow it closely.
Unfortunately I still am dealing with them over Internet service, but maybe in time things will get better.
That is I meant to say that in time perhaps my other options will get better.
Sure, I miss not getting shows that friends talk about at work, but I have other ways. And with Hulu and Netflix, I rely on those other ways less and less, if at all. I want to pay for my content, but not everyone else's. Watching the fiasco's with Disney and ESPN (among others over the years), I was glad that I wasn't involved and getting suckered.
For me, it began over watching the Discovery Science channel. It was channel 101 and suddenly just out of my lineup range. I had been trying to explain to my father (who lived with me) science concepts, as he was opening up more and showing interest. The TV shows's imagery and hosts could often explain things better than I could, and I might learn something new as well. My free trial was over, and so I called Adelphia (now Comcast) up. They said that not only would I have to forsake my special rate of something like $35 for the next 6 months (I think I had it for a year total) I would have to pay for digital cable and also the first additional digital package. So, for 1 channel they wanted me to almost triple my bill to $95. My next words were, "Cut it off."
Unfortunately I still am dealing with them over Internet service, but maybe in time things will get better.
Bubbe, I probably know a lot you don't.
Having just finished up the first season, and looking at the plans, I would say that the lead engineer's brother's name is Lincoln Burrows. Maybe he looks like this?
http://www.zhippo.com/cfscripts/imageWindow.cfm?image=http://www.zHippo.com/PleasurePointsHOSTED/images/gallery/space-sleeve-tattoo-L1.jpg&imageWidth=371&imageHeight=550&imageAlt=space%20sleeve%20tattoo&title=space%20sleeve%20tattoo
It's a figure of speech, "the old adage." Now on the end of surveys there should be a NeutronCowboy option instead of a Cowboy Neal because of your big head. (I kid, I kid.)
I guess no one ever found the link. And it was supposed to take only a moment. Well so much for many of us doing it..