he called his wife a trollop and a cunt? Anyways my point wasn't about McCain. It was that nobody cares about physical aging... i'm sure we'd vote a cripple in... well maybe not but thats just because people suck.
to be fair drag drop is the exact same really. though i think both should be available. You can technically click on more actions and drag it to the label you want if you are that worried about a possible second click.
On the left hand side there is a green box called labels. If you click on one of your label titles it will show all the mails with that label. This is exactly the same as a folder. Hierarchy is not available but that is not a fault of labels. Google has simply not allowed for all the features NNKK has listed.
So his comment is dead on: "The fact that gmail doesn't implement the final step (nested, or, more properly generalized, 'linked' labels) is something you could bring up with Google instead of making yourself look silly on slashdot with ignorant whining."
Its not physical aging thats the problem. Its that he is out of touch with reality. Which could lead to regression. Alot of people in McCains age group are racist, religious, sexist, homophobic and hold hatred toward countries for things that occured 70years ago. This doesnt apply to all old people but alot of them apply to mccain so i think 'hes to old' sums up his faults quickly. Its like calling microsoft a dinosaur, it has nothing to do with physical health. Anyways, if we intend to move forwards we can't be pushing backwards conservative views.
Why are suits caviar and fancy cars cool? I wasn't saying money wasting is the only way to be cool but it certainly is one way. Brand names are often based on the principle that they are incredibly expensive. Therefore only a certain class of people can afford it. And reversing the logic, if you have the brand then you are a part of that class of people. Of course this logically makes no sense but its how it works. Think about delicacies, often times they are disgusting. But simply because they are rare (seal eyes) they are more valuable.
The more wasteful a purchase is the cooler it is. Having all apple brand parts inside shows your dedication to being cool. Like if you had 50$ you could buy some fancy cigars. Or you could pay a cuban 30$ to make a cigar with your remaining 20. sure it would be as good or cost effective. But the show of how comfortable you are wasting money is what is cool.
No cures have been found because it is so frowned upon and has trouble getting funding. Most firms avoid the risk of using them and look other directions, often towards adult stem cells. With unfettered research surely cures would have been found. Although embryonic stem cellls arent just about finding cures. They are very VERY important to science and understanding. If no cures came out of it it would still be valuable.
And you are right about the research funding if not about bush. I however don't think you should be marked troll even if the post had a troll flavour most of it was solid.
true. But stalling a failing economy isn't really a long term solution either. I'd rather the shift happen sooner rather than later and get it over with. plus i'm sure people starving in asia would appreciate the boom more than people who could lose their SUVs in the states. Though i doubt the world is really prepared to support the additional people at near the same level of luxury anytime soon.
strawman fallacy whether or not he did well in school. I noticed you did it earlier too. Just because he is bitter and thought of a silly school system does NOT give ID any credence in science whatsoever. The reason he was bashing on, ridiculing the idea of ID calling it rhetoric is because it doesnt have a solid foundation. I think he fears people will buy into what the science community knows to be false if it is taught by authority figures in schools. In that case teaching children to watch out for bullshitters would be useful. If we WERE teaching critical thinking and equality of teaching w/e we could not include ID. I'm sure from a critical thinking well developed keen mind pov willing to spend time finding the truth, evolution would come out on top everytime. But GP is worried that this will NOT happen. If children are taught both they will take the project that is 3 words 'god do it' as opposed to the million page monstrosity involved in supporting evolution. Religion is easier, but that doesnt mean its right.
Well the reason western is percieved as worse than eastern isnt too hard.
Eastern religions are ussually/mostly an ETHICAL CODE rather than a full on religion. Christianisty/Judaism/Islam are full on religions as in they have all kinda of crazy stories, gods demons and magic.
Sikhism/Hinduism has alot of that as well, i'd say a little less but thats arguable. Compare that to buddhism which has hardly any tall tales and is pretty much just an ethical code. There are some crazy stories in it too and is subject to extremism but not really. As well the rules for people are far less stringent than those places on monks which leads to fanatasism. And then there is confucianism which is purely philosophical teachings. There is no crazy magic or gods telling you what to do. They are just general guidelines that you should listen to simply because it worked for millions of people in the past. You should check it out too... The point being there is much more room for flexibility. And Taoism... hasnt done any major harm for a looong time its inherently less dangerous. Same with Shinto... they haven't done anything aside from decorate japan in hundreds of years.
So yes, eastern religions are far far less dangerous. I'd say most of the wars worldwide in the last 100 years could be attributed in part to the big 3 'western' religions.
I'm not american. From a global pov this is a painfully obvious broken window fallacy which is what i was referring to. Since america is the window maker and china is the tailor it might seem good for america but even that could be hard to argue. As you said what america could get before for cheaper over-seas they get now for more locally. This probably results in a net gain for the US. But compared to the global loss i don't think it means much.
I'm pretty sure i got modded troll for thinking about the whole world rather than just the US ^^;;
true, From the US pov it is mainly a wealth transfer. And likely a small net loss. However the world isnt the US and to the world this is certainly a loss and a perfect example of the broken window fallacy. The chinese are the suit makers or w/e. And the americans are the window makers. The americans may be getting some benefit from the broken window but it is certainly NOT good globally.
Paying MORE money to have steel smelted is not a good thing. If you paid LESS like you were before you would have MORE money. This money you could spend on something else which you need. Resulting in a better economy. It is a perfect example of the broken window fallacy. Even when viewing it from the US pov rather than a global one it is bad to spend more money than less. Its a tricky fallacy i know.
thats fine. I meant it as a broken window fallacy applied to the planet earth. I doubt it will be beneficial to the US by that much. And with an international loss i see it as a bad thing.
This is a great point and i agree. However, stats show that the POOREST people are the fattest. They likely arent worried about the problem you mention. Stats would show that middle class earners should be fat. As the wealthy could afford restaurants and better fast food. And the poor shouldnt be able to afford the more expensive fast food. Goto any McDonalds and look around the fat people are likely to be just above the poverty line. They can afford to make themselves fat but arent sensible enough to eat healthily. A convincing arguement in favor of fat/poor people are lazy and stupid. I do think however that eating out for people above the poverty line is a status symbol. They will waste money they could have otherwise better spent to obtain status. They are better than their peers since they can go eat out and they can get into a higher pool (middle class) if only temporarily. Its the same as bling. Poorer people buy jewlery waaaaaay out of their legitimate price range to get respect. To get a taste of a higher bracket.
*Apologizes profusely to/. for going way offtopic*
Thats a failing in WoW... alot of mmos the penalty for death is much more harsh.
Diablo 2 is a much better example for powerful AIs. As is RO. In D2 there are massive punishments for death, there is a hardcore mode you lose the character if you ever die. So the AI has to never screw up. They also have to play with groups including human players. The maps are randomized as are the monsters stats. A full squad of bots in d2 can always top out human players. Less deaths, faster victories they cooperate better and pick the level clean. When i left the d2 botting scene they were working on a bot that would play the game from beginning to end and level the character to 99 with decent gear. That is a fairly big bite for AI.
In RO they used existing chatterbots to talk to people so they wouldnt get accused of botting. A true live turing test of the bot several times a day it would have to pass. These were tweaked with information in the game for people asking which way something was or if they could have a potion. They would also be able to determine whether or not you were on to it and tried to end conversations quickly. I saw one that would bribe you to not tell automatically after you caught him.
Games are a great incentive to get young coders into AI. It offers a full world to play in and a huge community of like minded hackers. Its disappointing most games crack down on botting so hard i think it should be freely available on an alternate server. Also i should have mentioned kingdomOfLoathing (web based game) that fully allows botting, there are a ton of tools and scripts that have been developed for the game which has a HUGE market much like the stock market, its fun to see some cripts that would make decent money if it played the real market.
That IS how it works. People are just data crunching machines. We have just learned and are born with algorithms. Computers will eventually start off with more algorithms since they don't have to die and surpass us. Simple as that.
come on now. fox news joked about having obama assassinated. they called his fist pump a terrorist jab. They called the nintendo DS a pedophile tool.
Obviously this is pointing to the bottom end. You might say its just biased. But when its biased to the point where instead of being creative with wording or omission of facts and they are outright lying. Thats not about left or right its just bad. And no intelligent viewer would stand for it.
Theres a site just about pointing out the stupidity of fox news.... its obviously very left wing biased but they have alot of articles that just point out contradictions lies and so on that appear on fox. http://www.newshounds.us/
I suppose fox news could live on as a comedy show ala colbert report but it is not news. Infact colbert is more left wing than fox news on occasion and hes funny because hes trying to be so right wing....
xDDD you can't foist over blame on the UN. THEY DIDNT WANT THIS WAR. Lol it was the americans fight, clean up your own goddamn mess or atleast take responsibility.
The media is stupid sure but you give people wayyy too much credit. They ARE the ones that watch fox and american idol. If people cared that fox spouted shit all the time they would change the channel.... the fact is, fox spouts shit and there is a star tv BECAUSE thats the garbage people want to here.
"correlationisnotcausation" talk about an overused and misunderstood phrase. I mean come on! No one would seriously suggest that having bumper stickers on a car seriously enrage people to the point where they must run people down. Of course it is correlation not causation. That doesn't mean its not a valid and interesting statistic.
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he called his wife a trollop and a cunt? Anyways my point wasn't about McCain. It was that nobody cares about physical aging... i'm sure we'd vote a cripple in... well maybe not but thats just because people suck.
to be fair drag drop is the exact same really. though i think both should be available. You can technically click on more actions and drag it to the label you want if you are that worried about a possible second click.
On the left hand side there is a green box called labels. If you click on one of your label titles it will show all the mails with that label. This is exactly the same as a folder. Hierarchy is not available but that is not a fault of labels. Google has simply not allowed for all the features NNKK has listed.
So his comment is dead on: "The fact that gmail doesn't implement the final step (nested, or, more properly generalized, 'linked' labels) is something you could bring up with Google instead of making yourself look silly on slashdot with ignorant whining."
Its not physical aging thats the problem. Its that he is out of touch with reality. Which could lead to regression. Alot of people in McCains age group are racist, religious, sexist, homophobic and hold hatred toward countries for things that occured 70years ago. This doesnt apply to all old people but alot of them apply to mccain so i think 'hes to old' sums up his faults quickly. Its like calling microsoft a dinosaur, it has nothing to do with physical health. Anyways, if we intend to move forwards we can't be pushing backwards conservative views.
Why are suits caviar and fancy cars cool? I wasn't saying money wasting is the only way to be cool but it certainly is one way. Brand names are often based on the principle that they are incredibly expensive. Therefore only a certain class of people can afford it. And reversing the logic, if you have the brand then you are a part of that class of people. Of course this logically makes no sense but its how it works. Think about delicacies, often times they are disgusting. But simply because they are rare (seal eyes) they are more valuable.
I patented the business model of IP squatting and am suing you for 1.46 million US for thought-infringing on my patent.
The more wasteful a purchase is the cooler it is. Having all apple brand parts inside shows your dedication to being cool. Like if you had 50$ you could buy some fancy cigars. Or you could pay a cuban 30$ to make a cigar with your remaining 20. sure it would be as good or cost effective. But the show of how comfortable you are wasting money is what is cool.
No cures have been found because it is so frowned upon and has trouble getting funding. Most firms avoid the risk of using them and look other directions, often towards adult stem cells. With unfettered research surely cures would have been found. Although embryonic stem cellls arent just about finding cures. They are very VERY important to science and understanding. If no cures came out of it it would still be valuable.
And you are right about the research funding if not about bush. I however don't think you should be marked troll even if the post had a troll flavour most of it was solid.
true. But stalling a failing economy isn't really a long term solution either. I'd rather the shift happen sooner rather than later and get it over with. plus i'm sure people starving in asia would appreciate the boom more than people who could lose their SUVs in the states. Though i doubt the world is really prepared to support the additional people at near the same level of luxury anytime soon.
strawman fallacy whether or not he did well in school. I noticed you did it earlier too. Just because he is bitter and thought of a silly school system does NOT give ID any credence in science whatsoever. The reason he was bashing on, ridiculing the idea of ID calling it rhetoric is because it doesnt have a solid foundation. I think he fears people will buy into what the science community knows to be false if it is taught by authority figures in schools. In that case teaching children to watch out for bullshitters would be useful. If we WERE teaching critical thinking and equality of teaching w/e we could not include ID. I'm sure from a critical thinking well developed keen mind pov willing to spend time finding the truth, evolution would come out on top everytime. But GP is worried that this will NOT happen. If children are taught both they will take the project that is 3 words 'god do it' as opposed to the million page monstrosity involved in supporting evolution. Religion is easier, but that doesnt mean its right.
Well the reason western is percieved as worse than eastern isnt too hard.
... hasnt done any major harm for a looong time its inherently less dangerous. Same with Shinto ... they haven't done anything aside from decorate japan in hundreds of years.
Eastern religions are ussually/mostly an ETHICAL CODE rather than a full on religion. Christianisty/Judaism/Islam are full on religions as in they have all kinda of crazy stories, gods demons and magic.
Sikhism/Hinduism has alot of that as well, i'd say a little less but thats arguable. Compare that to buddhism which has hardly any tall tales and is pretty much just an ethical code. There are some crazy stories in it too and is subject to extremism but not really. As well the rules for people are far less stringent than those places on monks which leads to fanatasism. And then there is confucianism which is purely philosophical teachings. There is no crazy magic or gods telling you what to do. They are just general guidelines that you should listen to simply because it worked for millions of people in the past. You should check it out too... The point being there is much more room for flexibility. And Taoism
So yes, eastern religions are far far less dangerous. I'd say most of the wars worldwide in the last 100 years could be attributed in part to the big 3 'western' religions.
I'm not american. From a global pov this is a painfully obvious broken window fallacy which is what i was referring to. Since america is the window maker and china is the tailor it might seem good for america but even that could be hard to argue. As you said what america could get before for cheaper over-seas they get now for more locally. This probably results in a net gain for the US. But compared to the global loss i don't think it means much.
I'm pretty sure i got modded troll for thinking about the whole world rather than just the US ^^;;
true, From the US pov it is mainly a wealth transfer. And likely a small net loss. However the world isnt the US and to the world this is certainly a loss and a perfect example of the broken window fallacy. The chinese are the suit makers or w/e. And the americans are the window makers. The americans may be getting some benefit from the broken window but it is certainly NOT good globally.
Gas is more expensive = bad
But it is being seen as a good thing
That is the broken window fallacy
Paying MORE money to have steel smelted is not a good thing. If you paid LESS like you were before you would have MORE money. This money you could spend on something else which you need. Resulting in a better economy. It is a perfect example of the broken window fallacy. Even when viewing it from the US pov rather than a global one it is bad to spend more money than less. Its a tricky fallacy i know.
thats fine. I meant it as a broken window fallacy applied to the planet earth. I doubt it will be beneficial to the US by that much. And with an international loss i see it as a bad thing.
This is a great point and i agree. However, stats show that the POOREST people are the fattest. They likely arent worried about the problem you mention. Stats would show that middle class earners should be fat. As the wealthy could afford restaurants and better fast food. And the poor shouldnt be able to afford the more expensive fast food. Goto any McDonalds and look around the fat people are likely to be just above the poverty line. They can afford to make themselves fat but arent sensible enough to eat healthily. A convincing arguement in favor of fat/poor people are lazy and stupid. I do think however that eating out for people above the poverty line is a status symbol. They will waste money they could have otherwise better spent to obtain status. They are better than their peers since they can go eat out and they can get into a higher pool (middle class) if only temporarily. Its the same as bling. Poorer people buy jewlery waaaaaay out of their legitimate price range to get respect. To get a taste of a higher bracket.
/. for going way offtopic*
*Apologizes profusely to
i wonder how long it would take to copyright it though...
BROKEN WINDOW FALLACY
http://freedomkeys.com/window.htm
I've never seen such a beautiful example of the broken window fallacy. Good job /. for not realizing it.
Thats a failing in WoW... alot of mmos the penalty for death is much more harsh.
Diablo 2 is a much better example for powerful AIs. As is RO. In D2 there are massive punishments for death, there is a hardcore mode you lose the character if you ever die. So the AI has to never screw up. They also have to play with groups including human players. The maps are randomized as are the monsters stats. A full squad of bots in d2 can always top out human players. Less deaths, faster victories they cooperate better and pick the level clean. When i left the d2 botting scene they were working on a bot that would play the game from beginning to end and level the character to 99 with decent gear. That is a fairly big bite for AI.
In RO they used existing chatterbots to talk to people so they wouldnt get accused of botting. A true live turing test of the bot several times a day it would have to pass. These were tweaked with information in the game for people asking which way something was or if they could have a potion. They would also be able to determine whether or not you were on to it and tried to end conversations quickly. I saw one that would bribe you to not tell automatically after you caught him.
Games are a great incentive to get young coders into AI. It offers a full world to play in and a huge community of like minded hackers. Its disappointing most games crack down on botting so hard i think it should be freely available on an alternate server. Also i should have mentioned kingdomOfLoathing (web based game) that fully allows botting, there are a ton of tools and scripts that have been developed for the game which has a HUGE market much like the stock market, its fun to see some cripts that would make decent money if it played the real market.
That IS how it works. People are just data crunching machines. We have just learned and are born with algorithms. Computers will eventually start off with more algorithms since they don't have to die and surpass us. Simple as that.
come on now. fox news joked about having obama assassinated. they called his fist pump a terrorist jab. They called the nintendo DS a pedophile tool.
Obviously this is pointing to the bottom end. You might say its just biased. But when its biased to the point where instead of being creative with wording or omission of facts and they are outright lying. Thats not about left or right its just bad. And no intelligent viewer would stand for it.
Theres a site just about pointing out the stupidity of fox news.... its obviously very left wing biased but they have alot of articles that just point out contradictions lies and so on that appear on fox. http://www.newshounds.us/
I suppose fox news could live on as a comedy show ala colbert report but it is not news. Infact colbert is more left wing than fox news on occasion and hes funny because hes trying to be so right wing....
xDDD you can't foist over blame on the UN. THEY DIDNT WANT THIS WAR. Lol it was the americans fight, clean up your own goddamn mess or atleast take responsibility.
The media is stupid sure but you give people wayyy too much credit. They ARE the ones that watch fox and american idol. If people cared that fox spouted shit all the time they would change the channel.... the fact is, fox spouts shit and there is a star tv BECAUSE thats the garbage people want to here.
he wasn't referring to other people in general. He was referring to US government.
"correlationisnotcausation" talk about an overused and misunderstood phrase. I mean come on! No one would seriously suggest that having bumper stickers on a car seriously enrage people to the point where they must run people down. Of course it is correlation not causation. That doesn't mean its not a valid and interesting statistic.