If a photographer got paid $2000 to have it in a book. And that book gets digitized the photographer can fuck himself. It is still a book. It is the same as the book selling a few more copies. It wasn't taken and stuck into a movie or anything that'd require a new license. I'm sorry, it is a plain money grab.
If the photographers were getting paid per book sold (really friggen weird, maybe for some photo-books). Then that'd be different and they'd have some rights. But that is a very tiny minority.
"If it's true, as I've heard reported, one thing that makes their actions evil was that the contract with the libraries generally forbid the libraries to allow any other company to do as Google had done."
Completely not true. Enjoy.
The other books you refer to are under the orphan works category. In many of these cases a copyright holder may or may not exist, it may have died and not been passed on no-one knows. Many of these books have been out of print for DECADES. The authors were not in any way going to see money from the books if they do happen to exist. These books would dissapear unless they got scanned. You might as well burn them. I'm serious. You are just throwing away knowledge by being against this.
Also, Google does not have sole access. I mean, they are the only ones who have a deal atm BUT the group that managed the class action has welcomed other companies to make a similar deal. And the proccess would be much cleaner. So it isn't a monopoly really, Google just is the only one that paid for access so far.
"But it they take advantage of it without sub-licensing it to all others requesting it at a nominal rate, then I've got to say "Yes, it's evil, and Google is responsible.""
Google is even offering to sell (for lower than cost of doing so themselves) their scanned DB of books to competitors that may come up.
Hope that helps, I've got work or I'd cite things, I'm sure you can Google it.
"The fact that they are re-copyrighting public domain works as their own?"
They didn't, that is total BS.
"What gives a library the right to allow Google to create a search-able index of copyright works?"
Most of them? Seriously, most University libraries have signed up, UMichigan was first. Harvard, Stanford, the New York Public Library and the University of Oxford were the first couple to sign up. Soon over 100 universities had signed up and that number exploded.
As for the LoC they joined in on December 13, 2004. Five and a half years ago... Along with various governments around the world. Pretty much everyone wants this except for a minority of authors. And TBH, they can suck it up.
Ah, Wikileaks was never like that. Look up interviews with one of the top guys at wikileaks. It was created to combat corrupt governments and such. But I do get your desire for a completely neutral robot-like place to put leaks.
Either way any of the language that Wikileaks used (aside from the title) would be acceptable in a court of law from the judge. So it isn't like Fox/MSNBC news bad at aleast. TBH I am happy to have cited facts at all. Breath of fresh air compared to news media which cites nothing (and is often taken from blogs and other shit sources).
To add to Martin Blank if you feel you haven't been shut down enough.
Religion---------------------% have been divorced
Jewish------------------------30%
Born-again Christians---27%
Other Christians-----------24%
Atheists, Agnostics------21%
Facts suck I know.
Re:Who cares how? The better question is why the b
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How Did Wikileaks Do It?
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indiscriminate - not marked by careful distinction : deficient in discrimination and discernment
The US army killed everyone in the group since 1 may have had a gun and 1 may have had an RPG. That may be called prudent even. But it certainly was indiscriminate.
unprovoked - occurring without motivation or provocation
The men on the ground didn't shoot. They weren't close enough to swear at or give the finger. Hell there was no indication that they were aware of the helicopter.
rescuer - a person who rescues you from harm or danger
In this case you are right. Attempted rescuer would be better. I think you could say with confidence in a strict a situation as a legal court that they were rescuers. There was a man laying on the ground riddled with bullets and they tried to drive off with him. Would you describe them as kidnappers?
The title I will give you! It is clearly a leading title.
Though i find it ironic that you don't want wikileaks to act as jury. But you are cool with the us gov acting as judge, jury and executioner in this case. Do remember that the US gov pretty clearly lied about this action in cover up and refused to release the footage. That is pretty evil.
There likely weren't weapons, only the Americans fired but I can see making that mistake since they were looking for guns it makes sense to mistake something for one. Though you should note that the people in the heli got a better view than we do from a shitty B/W recording on youtube, way better.
That said, ROE doesn't say shoot people without question because they MIGHT have a gun. But we'll say that was a minor oops. Shooting a van because they are helping an unarmed severely wounded person is REALLY WRONG against the ROE and the law of armed conflict. I detailed it earlier here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1607760&cid=31743072
Your contradicting statements also worry me. "Two Reuters reporters decided to embed themselves with a group of people who were armed in a combat zone. Bad things happened. In retrospect, it was a sad situation." "Just because Wikileaks can now review the video in "super-zoom" and "super-slo-mo" and determine that the pilots and gunners might have been able to discern whether the reporters were carrying cameras on straps instead of guns on straps does not make them liable for murder." Picking which facts to look at based on what supports the US position is wrong. Either the Reuters employees didn't "embed themselves with a group of people". Or the video analysis didn't show "whether the reporters were carrying cameras on straps instead of guns". Really, flopping positions like that is kinda evil...
"War Sucks."
Totally agree. But could I say "Aids sucks." and not be pissed if some guy with aids made it his life's ambition to infect as many people as possible? Of course not, just cause something sucks doesn't mean it can't suck less. You say it like a thought terminating phrase.
I think this is just becomeing a suing opportunity. Anyone that has anything to do with Google sues them because they have so much money. Hell, Google has been sued for linking to sites not using robots.txt or having thumbnails or images or.... the list goes on.
People are greedy and Google has money. Of course everyone sues it whether or not it is doing no evil.
It is pretty responsive with minimal settings. Apple doesn't have minimal settings in the same way which makes it a sorta unfair comparison. Feel free to say apple is shitty because it isn't flexible and doesn't offer low settings.
"It is entirely possible, given the way politics and city planners work, that poor decisions were made, but even so, towns tend to be on tight budgets and so I'm sure there were at least a few board meetings where the various alternatives were explored with the bottom line being one of the primary concerns."
There are towns that have seriously considered building giant domes over the whole things. You give local politicians far too much credit. They are like federal politicians but less evil but far more stupid and lazy.
A few days ago there was a/. story about Chicago? Thinking of implementing a gunshot detecting/triangulating system (which is in 51cities already). At a cost of $250k per square mile. I'll give you a minute to try and think of how you would design such a system in a way where it would cost that much money. (You can install a cheap laptop w/ webcam and internet every block and still cost only around 1~2%)
Lol... your first bit of data was from a blog called 'mdsolar' he took gov data and added his own multipliers to it seemingly at random to get those values. And the cite he gave for the figures he tweaked is down.
And the second block of data doesn't at all adress what you are talking about. Those are figures for full life cycle CO2 cost vs energy production. They don't take into account the variability of wind/solar and storage systems used to fix that or varied power grid systems AT ALL. It wasn't presented that way so I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
I love people posting data but you really need to be careful about sources and be sure about what specifically they are saying in the data.
As above post mentioned they scale horribly. I guess technically a few blocks could maybe go in on one.
But I think it would be simpler and cheaper to have more reliable electricity in the first place... Seriously, the power should be getting almost 3 9s which should be enough for regular folk. And good enough to not-justify buying giant ass-batteries.
And if you NEED 100% uptime for w/e reason... A generator would obviously be more cost effective, like way more than a battery. The easy way to find out is to go to a hospitals or schools and ask what they use. They've done lots of research on it and they all use generators afaik.
If that were true then "I have the POWERRR!!!" makes no sense at all.
Maybe instead of buying a battery like this they should just borrow the power sword from He-man until the new lines are put in. It has got to hold at least 4MW.
Though I don't think pro-piracy crackers are BAD. I think many of them are pretty damn good. But their skill set is very different. They can get into games and sites and reverse engineer lots of bits of software. BUT to crack a ps3 you need very high level hardware cracking skills. Totally different things. You also likely need some amount of money if you might end up breaking a ps3 or 10. Crackers are generally not wealthy people. Really though I think it is like saying "That celloist is a terrible artist; he can't even draw a good portrait of me!"
Agreed but who says you can't both be commiting fraud? And I believe GP meant that they wouldn't accept your return if it was a different ps3.
Also, I'm the last person to defend apple but... Apple likely won't allow less ram because they want to ensure some kind of decent experience. Windows7 might RUN on 500MB of ram but the experience would be crappy, and you'd likely have to run in ugly mode to keep it quick enough to be useable. Though, I have no idea of what OS 10.6 looks like at 1GB, maybe just as shitty as win7 @.5G.
No confusion, I had ROE to the top and LOAC on the bottom half of my post. Breaking either is shitty. The main part was the LOAC (since i couldn't find the ROE that these particular troops would have been under) which seems to have been broken in a few places.
Slashdot Mirror
N = 1, problem solved folks.
It provides the same attraction as T.V. which requires no interaction. Numbs your brain. (assuming you are talking about level building)
But wow also can provide this simple game (can be played by a bot) that can become quite difficult (high end arena pvp). So it provides both options.
It is a big ass rat. And physics will explain all these things given enough time and research.
The game doesnt have code the remove lines though.
If a photographer got paid $2000 to have it in a book. And that book gets digitized the photographer can fuck himself. It is still a book. It is the same as the book selling a few more copies. It wasn't taken and stuck into a movie or anything that'd require a new license. I'm sorry, it is a plain money grab.
If the photographers were getting paid per book sold (really friggen weird, maybe for some photo-books). Then that'd be different and they'd have some rights. But that is a very tiny minority.
"If it's true, as I've heard reported, one thing that makes their actions evil was that the contract with the libraries generally forbid the libraries to allow any other company to do as Google had done."
Completely not true. Enjoy.
The other books you refer to are under the orphan works category. In many of these cases a copyright holder may or may not exist, it may have died and not been passed on no-one knows. Many of these books have been out of print for DECADES. The authors were not in any way going to see money from the books if they do happen to exist. These books would dissapear unless they got scanned. You might as well burn them. I'm serious. You are just throwing away knowledge by being against this.
Also, Google does not have sole access. I mean, they are the only ones who have a deal atm BUT the group that managed the class action has welcomed other companies to make a similar deal. And the proccess would be much cleaner. So it isn't a monopoly really, Google just is the only one that paid for access so far.
"But it they take advantage of it without sub-licensing it to all others requesting it at a nominal rate, then I've got to say "Yes, it's evil, and Google is responsible.""
Google is even offering to sell (for lower than cost of doing so themselves) their scanned DB of books to competitors that may come up.
Hope that helps, I've got work or I'd cite things, I'm sure you can Google it.
"The fact that they are re-copyrighting public domain works as their own?"
They didn't, that is total BS.
"What gives a library the right to allow Google to create a search-able index of copyright works?"
Most of them? Seriously, most University libraries have signed up, UMichigan was first. Harvard, Stanford, the New York Public Library and the University of Oxford were the first couple to sign up. Soon over 100 universities had signed up and that number exploded.
As for the LoC they joined in on December 13, 2004. Five and a half years ago... Along with various governments around the world. Pretty much everyone wants this except for a minority of authors. And TBH, they can suck it up.
Ah, Wikileaks was never like that. Look up interviews with one of the top guys at wikileaks. It was created to combat corrupt governments and such. But I do get your desire for a completely neutral robot-like place to put leaks.
Either way any of the language that Wikileaks used (aside from the title) would be acceptable in a court of law from the judge. So it isn't like Fox/MSNBC news bad at aleast. TBH I am happy to have cited facts at all. Breath of fresh air compared to news media which cites nothing (and is often taken from blogs and other shit sources).
I like that sex is bimodal. The two options you have are 'as a victim or an offender'. People are crazy. DA should get canned.
To add to Martin Blank if you feel you haven't been shut down enough.
Religion---------------------% have been divorced
Jewish------------------------30%
Born-again Christians---27%
Other Christians-----------24%
Atheists, Agnostics------21%
Facts suck I know.
indiscriminate - not marked by careful distinction : deficient in discrimination and discernment
The US army killed everyone in the group since 1 may have had a gun and 1 may have had an RPG. That may be called prudent even. But it certainly was indiscriminate.
unprovoked - occurring without motivation or provocation
The men on the ground didn't shoot. They weren't close enough to swear at or give the finger. Hell there was no indication that they were aware of the helicopter.
rescuer - a person who rescues you from harm or danger
In this case you are right. Attempted rescuer would be better. I think you could say with confidence in a strict a situation as a legal court that they were rescuers. There was a man laying on the ground riddled with bullets and they tried to drive off with him. Would you describe them as kidnappers?
The title I will give you! It is clearly a leading title.
Though i find it ironic that you don't want wikileaks to act as jury. But you are cool with the us gov acting as judge, jury and executioner in this case. Do remember that the US gov pretty clearly lied about this action in cover up and refused to release the footage. That is pretty evil.
There likely weren't weapons, only the Americans fired but I can see making that mistake since they were looking for guns it makes sense to mistake something for one. Though you should note that the people in the heli got a better view than we do from a shitty B/W recording on youtube, way better.
That said, ROE doesn't say shoot people without question because they MIGHT have a gun. But we'll say that was a minor oops. Shooting a van because they are helping an unarmed severely wounded person is REALLY WRONG against the ROE and the law of armed conflict. I detailed it earlier here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1607760&cid=31743072
Your contradicting statements also worry me.
"Two Reuters reporters decided to embed themselves with a group of people who were armed in a combat zone. Bad things happened. In retrospect, it was a sad situation."
"Just because Wikileaks can now review the video in "super-zoom" and "super-slo-mo" and determine that the pilots and gunners might have been able to discern whether the reporters were carrying cameras on straps instead of guns on straps does not make them liable for murder."
Picking which facts to look at based on what supports the US position is wrong. Either the Reuters employees didn't "embed themselves with a group of people". Or the video analysis didn't show "whether the reporters were carrying cameras on straps instead of guns". Really, flopping positions like that is kinda evil...
"War Sucks."
Totally agree. But could I say "Aids sucks." and not be pissed if some guy with aids made it his life's ambition to infect as many people as possible? Of course not, just cause something sucks doesn't mean it can't suck less. You say it like a thought terminating phrase.
I think this is just becomeing a suing opportunity. Anyone that has anything to do with Google sues them because they have so much money. Hell, Google has been sued for linking to sites not using robots.txt or having thumbnails or images or.... the list goes on.
People are greedy and Google has money. Of course everyone sues it whether or not it is doing no evil.
It is pretty responsive with minimal settings. Apple doesn't have minimal settings in the same way which makes it a sorta unfair comparison. Feel free to say apple is shitty because it isn't flexible and doesn't offer low settings.
"It is entirely possible, given the way politics and city planners work, that poor decisions were made, but even so, towns tend to be on tight budgets and so I'm sure there were at least a few board meetings where the various alternatives were explored with the bottom line being one of the primary concerns."
/. story about Chicago? Thinking of implementing a gunshot detecting/triangulating system (which is in 51cities already). At a cost of $250k per square mile. I'll give you a minute to try and think of how you would design such a system in a way where it would cost that much money. (You can install a cheap laptop w/ webcam and internet every block and still cost only around 1~2%)
There are towns that have seriously considered building giant domes over the whole things. You give local politicians far too much credit. They are like federal politicians but less evil but far more stupid and lazy.
A few days ago there was a
Lol... your first bit of data was from a blog called 'mdsolar' he took gov data and added his own multipliers to it seemingly at random to get those values. And the cite he gave for the figures he tweaked is down.
And the second block of data doesn't at all adress what you are talking about. Those are figures for full life cycle CO2 cost vs energy production. They don't take into account the variability of wind/solar and storage systems used to fix that or varied power grid systems AT ALL. It wasn't presented that way so I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
I love people posting data but you really need to be careful about sources and be sure about what specifically they are saying in the data.
As above post mentioned they scale horribly. I guess technically a few blocks could maybe go in on one.
But I think it would be simpler and cheaper to have more reliable electricity in the first place... Seriously, the power should be getting almost 3 9s which should be enough for regular folk. And good enough to not-justify buying giant ass-batteries.
And if you NEED 100% uptime for w/e reason... A generator would obviously be more cost effective, like way more than a battery. The easy way to find out is to go to a hospitals or schools and ask what they use. They've done lots of research on it and they all use generators afaik.
If that were true then "I have the POWERRR!!!" makes no sense at all.
Maybe instead of buying a battery like this they should just borrow the power sword from He-man until the new lines are put in. It has got to hold at least 4MW.
http://fora.tv/2008/12/12/MythBusters_Co-Host_Adam_Savage_on_Obsession
Adam Savage of Mythbusters gives a talk on the value of obsession, detailing one of his own.
Didn't MS recently brick a ton of XP machines?
"Yet I hope you are sane enough to realize that banning everything pleasurable is not the way to go."
Fuck, I never understood the Mennonites until you said that.
Totally true.
Though I don't think pro-piracy crackers are BAD. I think many of them are pretty damn good. But their skill set is very different. They can get into games and sites and reverse engineer lots of bits of software. BUT to crack a ps3 you need very high level hardware cracking skills. Totally different things. You also likely need some amount of money if you might end up breaking a ps3 or 10. Crackers are generally not wealthy people. Really though I think it is like saying "That celloist is a terrible artist; he can't even draw a good portrait of me!"
Agreed but who says you can't both be commiting fraud? And I believe GP meant that they wouldn't accept your return if it was a different ps3.
.5G.
Also, I'm the last person to defend apple but... Apple likely won't allow less ram because they want to ensure some kind of decent experience. Windows7 might RUN on 500MB of ram but the experience would be crappy, and you'd likely have to run in ugly mode to keep it quick enough to be useable. Though, I have no idea of what OS 10.6 looks like at 1GB, maybe just as shitty as win7 @
No confusion, I had ROE to the top and LOAC on the bottom half of my post. Breaking either is shitty. The main part was the LOAC (since i couldn't find the ROE that these particular troops would have been under) which seems to have been broken in a few places.
1kmph doesn't sound like a record!