I do much the same as you. The BSDs make excellent servers, firewalls, and routers. Although, I do use PC-BSD for my desktop. Comes down to personal preference. I use OpenBSD for my firewall, router, and vpn appliance. FreeBSD serves up my web pages, ftp, dns, and just about everything else.
While, interesting the test wasn't really comparing apples to apples. For example, FreeBSD RC 8 is using a slightly older version of GCC so the first test is somehwat invalidated. It is also notwworthy that several of the tests are canted towards desktop use. FreeBSD, you could argue, is not as optimized towards desktop use as Ubuntu. A better test would be to compare the Ubuntu Server edition with FreeBSD. I would like to see a test designed around the number of simultaneous website hits either OS can take or a test to see the number of concurrent ftp connections. I believe if the comparison were closer to apples and apples, we might see a more objective test.
You gotta love it! They just invited the entire free world to work on exploits around this setup. You're right.... if that moron, Wilson, had kept his mouth shut. He just caused his IT expenses to be increased by several million more to defend against the newest onslaught to intrusion attempts. Or, maybe he had an evil purpose in mind to increase his budget.
I'd like to mod this guy further upwards if I could. He points out the unabashed Orwellian traits of this program. If I were at NSW, I would refuse the laptop. Fuck it! I have a right to my own privacy outside of school.
Gee partner, I feel for ya. Must make your job loads of fun but at least the ID10T politicans give you some job stability through their moronic decisions. It might be stressful but it is still stability in globally poor economic times.
Stephen Wilson and New South Wales were supposed to be pro open source. I guess Microsoft and a bunch of others ridiculously discounted their software again to get them to bite. Stephen Wilson was reputed to be pro Linux. I guess the powers that be got to him. Too bad, so sad. Notice how these netbooks are eerily Orwellian in their surveillance. Also, no computer is unhackable - given a short length of time, we will see the Slashdot posting that these netbooks have been hacked. The only unhackable computer is the one not connected to any outside network.
Actually, it's quality is better than H.264. It just suffered from needing a higher powered processor to decode video for play back. Theora 1.0 would not work very well on an ARM based device like the iPod. See www.xiph.org. I believe there is a link on there comparing H.264 and Theora. Theora is noticeably better but version 1.0 suffers in the live video streaming arena. My guess is Theora 1.1 should be noticeably better.
is calling the kettle black! Google is pro net-neutrality because they do not want their services blocked or throttled by ISPs. AT&T is so anti net-neutrality that it is not even funny. Seems like AT&T is spewing more crap. This from a network provider that still cannot support MMS. MMS has only been around for the last seven or eight years. Google is technologically light years ahead of AT&T.
Also, who needs the 89,000 dollar sports car when most people need the 25-30,000 dollar practical everyday driver? Thought I would just put that one out there for y'all to consider.
I am all for developement of greener alternatives! But why the fuck are we giving loans and grants to companies to build these cars outside the US? These loans were designed to stimulate the economy. The only thing we are doing is stimulating the UK and Finland while we have 10% fucking unemployment. Our current president is no better than Bush. This angers me to no end. We are still giving money away with No Strings Attached that we will never see again. More wealthcare! I, for one, am just puke sick and tired of it. Anyone else?
Perhaps AT&T should spend the time it spends fucking up my voicemail to fix the network. Or god forbid actually invest in infrastructure. Given the ridiculous overpricing that mobile providers commit, one would think that somebody would have money to actually service the equipment and increase bandwidth. I mean they do it other places just fine with less cost per customer.
I hope it does crash the AT&T network and its customer base demands massive credits for the outtage. Fine, call me a flame baiter or a troll. Any company that willingly cooperates with the Bush warrantless wiretapping scheme deserves it. AT&T has behaved so egregiously that it would be just about mot just to see this happen. Serves the company right for being a bandwidth hord instead of doing something like actually upgrading the network to take full advantage of modern wireless commnications protocols. I would feel sorry, honest and truely, for those who would be affected by such an outtage but an outtage like that would put the power back in the consumer's hands, where it belongs.
I've got an allergy to bullshit. Seems like the telecom companies will stoop to any low just to be able to use bandwidth caps, throttling, and/or anti-network neutrality actions. This positively disgusts me!! Software piracy will not be stopped by this. Perhaps, it will only be impacted by a very, very small margin. Instead of coming to their collective senses that they just need to upgrade the damn network to handle the bandwidth, they piddle on to find any excuse not to spend money towards upgrades. They tout such speeds as 20M down. Whoop tee doo! In Japan they have 100MB symmetric broadband. Why does America, Canda, Australia, and England not want to keep wup with modern high speed broadband as defined by Japan?
This article is hollow and offers absolutely no proof positive that a Google plugin will cause IE 8 to be less secure. Microsoft is just up to its same old FUD tricks again. Microsoft is using generalities to scare people away from using anything Google related. They are not incorrect about plugins in general. In general, there is some risk for opening up a security hole when an add-on is made to a browser. That said, plugins written by Microsoft, Adobe, or others are not necessarily more secure. My guess is Google took some care in testing as much as is possible. Also, I wonder if the plugin is open source. If the source code is available for the plugins, should a security hole be discovered patches can be quickly released. It simply amazes me how most lay people will take what Microsoft (or any other corporation, for that matter) says as gospel. When a corporation makes a press release, it does so not to be altruistic but to better its own position in front of both the public and investors. The propaganda is convincing for the less knowledgeable. My advice to the laymen is to think about what ulterior motives may be hidden in a press release before taking it as gospel.
If you ask me, it is still overpriced for what amounts to a very inexpensive unit to manufacture. I am willing to bet it costs about 10-20 USD to manufacture.
You're right to a point. Now that we have Quad-core processors available, clean coding has taken a somewhat of a backdoor. Back in the days when a powerful computer only had 256K of RAM at its disposal, there was emphasis in clean, lean, and efficient software design. Simply throw more hardware at the problem now. The only thing we really have to be careful of and watchful for are memory leaks as they open intrusion points.
FreeBSD will continue to get supported for a long while but even its developers do not encourage its users to go too long without an update. The longer you go, the longer, and the riskier upgrade belongs. But, then, some habitually format and install the new OS and just restore the data from backup. I tend to do it that way. I've simply taken the contents of a mysql database and dumped it to a delimited text file. After reinstalling the OS and mysql, I just simply reimport the data. Simple and elegant.
by Jurily (900488) Alter Relationship on Tuesday September 22, @09:38AM (#29503123)
While I am a linux/gpl fanboi, i think the bsd distros don't have this problem because they have much stricter people at the top of their kernels, and i think this is yet another sign that Linus should not be the only one running the show.
Heh. BSD doesn't have this problem because nobody cares enough about them to contribute enough code. You don't really have to think about feature creep at 3 patches per week.
More FUD, thank you. BSD has a large and dedicated fan based and rather than just put any code willy nilly into the kernel it is carefully evaluated. FreeBSD powers the root nameservers and OpenBSD is arguably the most secure operating system in the world. With reputations like this to uphold, often state of the art features are not added to maintain stability and security. No need to start a flamewar. Both BSD and Linux would be better off with cooperation, rather than conflict. Especially because Linux does much better as a VoIP platform.
FreeBSD powers the root nameservers as well as being used for a webserver, firewalls, routers, VPN appliances. And, point of fact, it has become very desktop friendly in the form of PC BSD. And, it does not lack "server specific stuff." Where are you getting your information from? BSD will be able to run just about any type of server function that Linux can. BSDs are just a little lacking in the VoIP server arena. Other than that, they will handily act as ldap, streaming media servers, name servers, ftp servers, and anything else you can think of.
Any man that achieved what he did, basically to begin writing a kernel as a student and have it achieve multinational fame is entitled to being somewhat arrogant and opinionated. What he basically achieved as a student, some software companies have been trying to do for years with only marginal success (i.e. the NT OS kernel) I would argue that Linux's development model is TOO open. One of the nice things about BSD is that it has a more tightly controlled development model. That said, you are still free to hack the kernel to pieces as you see fit.
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I do much the same as you. The BSDs make excellent servers, firewalls, and routers. Although, I do use PC-BSD for my desktop. Comes down to personal preference. I use OpenBSD for my firewall, router, and vpn appliance. FreeBSD serves up my web pages, ftp, dns, and just about everything else.
While, interesting the test wasn't really comparing apples to apples. For example, FreeBSD RC 8 is using a slightly older version of GCC so the first test is somehwat invalidated. It is also notwworthy that several of the tests are canted towards desktop use. FreeBSD, you could argue, is not as optimized towards desktop use as Ubuntu. A better test would be to compare the Ubuntu Server edition with FreeBSD. I would like to see a test designed around the number of simultaneous website hits either OS can take or a test to see the number of concurrent ftp connections. I believe if the comparison were closer to apples and apples, we might see a more objective test.
Well, that's journalism in the Post-Murrow era. Journalistic ethics is an oxymoron.
You gotta love it! They just invited the entire free world to work on exploits around this setup. You're right .... if that moron, Wilson, had kept his mouth shut. He just caused his IT expenses to be increased by several million more to defend against the newest onslaught to intrusion attempts. Or, maybe he had an evil purpose in mind to increase his budget.
I'd like to mod this guy further upwards if I could. He points out the unabashed Orwellian traits of this program. If I were at NSW, I would refuse the laptop. Fuck it! I have a right to my own privacy outside of school.
I guess they'll make anyone a CIO. Stephen Wilson was also supposed to be pro open source software too. Typical politican!!
Gee partner, I feel for ya. Must make your job loads of fun but at least the ID10T politicans give you some job stability through their moronic decisions. It might be stressful but it is still stability in globally poor economic times.
Stephen Wilson and New South Wales were supposed to be pro open source. I guess Microsoft and a bunch of others ridiculously discounted their software again to get them to bite. Stephen Wilson was reputed to be pro Linux. I guess the powers that be got to him. Too bad, so sad. Notice how these netbooks are eerily Orwellian in their surveillance. Also, no computer is unhackable - given a short length of time, we will see the Slashdot posting that these netbooks have been hacked. The only unhackable computer is the one not connected to any outside network.
Actually, it's quality is better than H.264. It just suffered from needing a higher powered processor to decode video for play back. Theora 1.0 would not work very well on an ARM based device like the iPod. See www.xiph.org. I believe there is a link on there comparing H.264 and Theora. Theora is noticeably better but version 1.0 suffers in the live video streaming arena. My guess is Theora 1.1 should be noticeably better.
Thank you! We are in 100% agreement. I am certainly sympathetic to the plight in Michigan.
I know this is off topic but I like your link to the healthcare rant. couldn't agree more.
is calling the kettle black! Google is pro net-neutrality because they do not want their services blocked or throttled by ISPs. AT&T is so anti net-neutrality that it is not even funny. Seems like AT&T is spewing more crap. This from a network provider that still cannot support MMS. MMS has only been around for the last seven or eight years. Google is technologically light years ahead of AT&T.
That's a bad day for Vodafone. I wouldn't want to see the millions in damage that little incident caused
Also, who needs the 89,000 dollar sports car when most people need the 25-30,000 dollar practical everyday driver? Thought I would just put that one out there for y'all to consider.
I am all for developement of greener alternatives! But why the fuck are we giving loans and grants to companies to build these cars outside the US? These loans were designed to stimulate the economy. The only thing we are doing is stimulating the UK and Finland while we have 10% fucking unemployment. Our current president is no better than Bush. This angers me to no end. We are still giving money away with No Strings Attached that we will never see again. More wealthcare! I, for one, am just puke sick and tired of it. Anyone else?
Perhaps AT&T should spend the time it spends fucking up my voicemail to fix the network. Or god forbid actually invest in infrastructure. Given the ridiculous overpricing that mobile providers commit, one would think that somebody would have money to actually service the equipment and increase bandwidth. I mean they do it other places just fine with less cost per customer.
Well said!!
I hope it does crash the AT&T network and its customer base demands massive credits for the outtage. Fine, call me a flame baiter or a troll. Any company that willingly cooperates with the Bush warrantless wiretapping scheme deserves it. AT&T has behaved so egregiously that it would be just about mot just to see this happen. Serves the company right for being a bandwidth hord instead of doing something like actually upgrading the network to take full advantage of modern wireless commnications protocols. I would feel sorry, honest and truely, for those who would be affected by such an outtage but an outtage like that would put the power back in the consumer's hands, where it belongs.
I've got an allergy to bullshit. Seems like the telecom companies will stoop to any low just to be able to use bandwidth caps, throttling, and/or anti-network neutrality actions. This positively disgusts me!! Software piracy will not be stopped by this. Perhaps, it will only be impacted by a very, very small margin. Instead of coming to their collective senses that they just need to upgrade the damn network to handle the bandwidth, they piddle on to find any excuse not to spend money towards upgrades. They tout such speeds as 20M down. Whoop tee doo! In Japan they have 100MB symmetric broadband. Why does America, Canda, Australia, and England not want to keep wup with modern high speed broadband as defined by Japan?
This article is hollow and offers absolutely no proof positive that a Google plugin will cause IE 8 to be less secure. Microsoft is just up to its same old FUD tricks again. Microsoft is using generalities to scare people away from using anything Google related. They are not incorrect about plugins in general. In general, there is some risk for opening up a security hole when an add-on is made to a browser. That said, plugins written by Microsoft, Adobe, or others are not necessarily more secure. My guess is Google took some care in testing as much as is possible. Also, I wonder if the plugin is open source. If the source code is available for the plugins, should a security hole be discovered patches can be quickly released. It simply amazes me how most lay people will take what Microsoft (or any other corporation, for that matter) says as gospel. When a corporation makes a press release, it does so not to be altruistic but to better its own position in front of both the public and investors. The propaganda is convincing for the less knowledgeable. My advice to the laymen is to think about what ulterior motives may be hidden in a press release before taking it as gospel.
If you ask me, it is still overpriced for what amounts to a very inexpensive unit to manufacture. I am willing to bet it costs about 10-20 USD to manufacture.
You're right to a point. Now that we have Quad-core processors available, clean coding has taken a somewhat of a backdoor. Back in the days when a powerful computer only had 256K of RAM at its disposal, there was emphasis in clean, lean, and efficient software design. Simply throw more hardware at the problem now. The only thing we really have to be careful of and watchful for are memory leaks as they open intrusion points.
FreeBSD will continue to get supported for a long while but even its developers do not encourage its users to go too long without an update. The longer you go, the longer, and the riskier upgrade belongs. But, then, some habitually format and install the new OS and just restore the data from backup. I tend to do it that way. I've simply taken the contents of a mysql database and dumped it to a delimited text file. After reinstalling the OS and mysql, I just simply reimport the data. Simple and elegant.
by Jurily (900488) Alter Relationship on Tuesday September 22, @09:38AM (#29503123) While I am a linux/gpl fanboi, i think the bsd distros don't have this problem because they have much stricter people at the top of their kernels, and i think this is yet another sign that Linus should not be the only one running the show. Heh. BSD doesn't have this problem because nobody cares enough about them to contribute enough code. You don't really have to think about feature creep at 3 patches per week.
More FUD, thank you. BSD has a large and dedicated fan based and rather than just put any code willy nilly into the kernel it is carefully evaluated. FreeBSD powers the root nameservers and OpenBSD is arguably the most secure operating system in the world. With reputations like this to uphold, often state of the art features are not added to maintain stability and security. No need to start a flamewar. Both BSD and Linux would be better off with cooperation, rather than conflict. Especially because Linux does much better as a VoIP platform.
FreeBSD powers the root nameservers as well as being used for a webserver, firewalls, routers, VPN appliances. And, point of fact, it has become very desktop friendly in the form of PC BSD. And, it does not lack "server specific stuff." Where are you getting your information from? BSD will be able to run just about any type of server function that Linux can. BSDs are just a little lacking in the VoIP server arena. Other than that, they will handily act as ldap, streaming media servers, name servers, ftp servers, and anything else you can think of.
Any man that achieved what he did, basically to begin writing a kernel as a student and have it achieve multinational fame is entitled to being somewhat arrogant and opinionated. What he basically achieved as a student, some software companies have been trying to do for years with only marginal success (i.e. the NT OS kernel) I would argue that Linux's development model is TOO open. One of the nice things about BSD is that it has a more tightly controlled development model. That said, you are still free to hack the kernel to pieces as you see fit.