Let me repeat one more time - you'll never win it through war:) So good luck there.
And as for doing so good professionaly... kudos to you. More power and success to you man. Rock on tampon! Considering the copious amounts of Indians all over... its good to know that a tiny percentage is making it through.;)
As for your vastly broad generalizations about Muslims, life, and everything else... they carry absolutely no weight. Stop flailing your arms so blindly... you'll only end up hurting yourself:)
As for sending money... please provide proof as to which moderate muslims you know of sponsor terrorism... I really would like to know. Your claims are baseless.
Relax a bit, or you'll spontaeously combust (I'm sure you'll blame every Muslim for it too). Cry baby.
It's great that you have so much passion. If only you could focus it into promoting peace, you could achieve wonders.
Anyways, we have to stop living in the past, and try to work towards peace for the future... it won't happen if we keep digging up graves. It is quite unfortunate if all that the essay mentions happened in the name of Islam, by people who believed themselves to be ambassadors of Islam. I still believe that the root of all problems is Man... we need to fix ourselves and stop using religion as an excuse to kill or promote violence and hatred.
I would really like to see us co-exist peacefully... and be tolerant and respectful of other cultures, beliefs. I dunno what else to say to you, but the only way towards a solution is educating people... don't know how and when that will happen... but I hope it does, so the generations to come can live in peace.
I don't think it's either you or us... it's all of us. People who want it fixed the right way are too scared to speak up, cos they know they will be hunted down by their own kind and called bigots. People who do speak up, are the ones who believe in using force / weapons to fight, which will never work, unfortunately. And the wheels... turn turn turn.
You're obviously up at the oddest hours watching your e-mail, aren't you? I couldn't help but respond.:)
Here's the sad part about this whole thing. The meaning of infidel is so fluid, and I, as would be other people, am of the opinion that it is a misunderstood interpretation amongst Muslims and non-Muslims alike. For example, there are so many parts of the Quran which talk about religious freedom and honoring lives of other souls, that are ignored by Muslims and non-Muslims when understanding Quranic teachings. I certainly wasn't brought up to believe that all non-believers, etc must be wiped out off the face of the earth - the only time I feel something similar is when I'm watching a Pakistan v India cricket match, but that is only limited to wiping the Indian cricket team out of the series. FYI, my wife supports India, being from India. Back to the original point I was trying to make: It is unforunate that the actions of Muslims have often been thought of as what Islam itself is. What a group of Muslims does is not what Islam preaches. Islam is against killing of a single soul without justice - it detests killing, as the Quran addresses: "... whoever slays a soul, unless it be for murder or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men;..." (Al-Maidah 5:32)
Here is what moderate (contemporary) Muslims believe in, with respect to indfidels: "... belief is that this word is a synonym for the word 'Kaafir' in Quran with respect to the question under discussion. If that is the case, it needs to be said that non-believers who live in the age of messengers of God are a different class and category than non-believers otherwise. It is for this reason that in the history of mankind, whenever a messenger of God came to a nation, he proved his messenger ship clearly and plainly to his nation so much so that they had no confusion about him being a bearer of truth. As a result, those people who, after having known the truth, still denied the messenger were passed on a judgment in this world by the Almighty. In case of polytheists, this judgment was in form of their annihilation, for example the great flood on Noah (pbuh)'s nation when those who rejected his message were drowned. A similar fate was decided by the Almighty on the people of Lot (pbuh), Abraham (pbuh), Salih (pbuh) and other messengers.
It needs to be understood in this context that at the end of the mission of Muhammad (pbuh) when God, in his absolute Knowledge, knew that those who were rejecting faith were not rejecting because they had any confusion with regards to it, rather they were rejecting out of mere arrogance and pride, He commanded Muslims to slay down those 'infidels' from amongst the polytheists. The Jews and Christians, on the other hand, because they belonged to monotheistic faith, were to be fought against until they became politically subservient to Muslims. This was done after providing both the idolaters and the people of the Book (Jews and Christians) sufficient time to understand whether Muhammad (pbuh) was a real messenger of God and the message he brought forward was actually the message from God.
This is God's law specific to messengers as I have explained above. Since a messenger of God is not living with us anymore, and we do not know that which is in the hearts of people, we cannot call them 'infidels' and commit such acts (9/11, etc). In a time such as today, every soul must continue to strive to find the truth and live by it."
With the above in mind, I hope you don't classify all Muslims as "evil". Your fight should not be against Muslims... your fight should be against people who promote violence, and not all Pakistani Muslims hate Hindus. You might not believe this but we had quite a few hindu's in my school in Pakistan. One of them is quite a close friend of mine... and was never made to feel that she was any different from us... in fact, we never felt that she was not a part of ou
Haha! Let me make a few things clear... contrary to your "assumption" (which would cover most of the crap you spit out) I am not a hindu or jew hater. In fact, a few of my best friends from college are hindus, as well as Sikhs. The kind I do hate is your kind... the kind that instigate and provoke hatred, be it Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Christian, whose sole mission in life is to make sure there is no peace on the planet. Brainwashed nincompoops, who don't have a mind of their own, but instead read articles all over the web, and form their opinion based on that. Do you even know the ground realities? Have you ever been there? Have you been with the people who did suffer? Be it Muslims, Hindus or Jews? From your previous posts, you seem to think Hindu's are above all... does your religion not teach you that all mankind is equal? I'm sure it does... but you don't follow that religion do you? You have your own religion going on slashdot... schmuck lord. Don't get your panties in a bunch, you little pansy, sitting behind your computer screen. If you're that concerned, go start something... pick up a placard and start a protest. Damn fool! Haha!
>You will when Pakistan is surrounded by America, Israel, and India. Soon, they will answer for their hate. Mmm... as for that lousy threat... pffft, you wish.:) Maybe you'll lead that front? Yeah right! I'm sure your range is limited to the 5 foot (your height I'm assuming - oh crap, im getting your disease) radius around your computer.
> makes a living throwing rocks at Jews I didn't you could make a living throwing rocks at Jews?! Thats news to me! Dude, you're quite well-tapped into... land-of-sucky-information, aren't you?!
> and has a Yankee boot up his ass, that's rather amusing. I have nothing against "yankees" and they have nothing against me. You're the one with all the hatred against the world so you must speak from experience? Must've been painful! Wait... but then you probably got yo' momma's heels up yo' ass so many time that you didn't feel them yankee boots at all (please spare me the details, i really don't want to know):)
>I have some advice, seeing your virulent Hindu-hatred for what it is Again, I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that my hatred for Hindu's is virulent... did you really go to university? It almost seems like you went to some Hindu brainwashing bootcamp where you have been led/forced to believe that all Muslims are evil and must be annihilated.:) You must be a Hindu MULLAH!
Now I have some advice for you... get a life. Yeah, really there is such a thing... and it's beautiful. A few pointers on how you can make a difference. And writing up articles on wikpedia and promoting them here isn't one of them. Go teach people in India about AIDS, and how to prevent it from spreading. Fix all the problems in your house before you go out trying to fix the world's problems. Go make a difference where you will be recognized for your efforts. Don't sit around provoking anger, violence and hatred, through meaningless posts, cos all you'll get is grief... it won't get you ANYWHERE buddy. Do you really think that your rants will solve the hate issues?
Really, I wonder where all your hatred stems from, cos it sure makes you sound like you're part of some cult.
Alright, I've had enough... I'm out. Take it easy man... get out of your stinky hole and go breathe in some fresh air. Enjoy life... or soon you'll get a terrible headache.:) And nothing in life is worth a headache I say.
See ya! Peace! Mmm wait... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace. Just so you get an idea of what it is... yeah, you can find some GOOD stuff on wikipedia too.
PS. Don't bother replying back, as you won't be getting a response. This was fun!:) Happy Hating!
Love what you've done with this thread. Not!
Are you gathering troops for a hate-club? It's quite interesting how you talk about muslims instigating, and you here are pretty much doing the instigation. Clown!
Relax man, there's much more to life than wasting time googling all these links up - I doubt anyone has even bothered clicking on them. You talk about using force blahdeeblah, against muslims - what're you doing sitting here in the US? Go back to India and do something about it. You're 'all-talk' - lets see some action punk! when are we going to see your name in the papers?
One more question, why so much hate? Were you harrassed by muslims at some point in your life? I bet you're one of those pesky little indians plotting your revenge... sitting in a hole in your curry-stinking apartment... everyone around you probably thinks you're a goody two shoes - shy 'n humble, cos you don't have the kahunas to stand up to anyone. So you spend your time writing up wikipedia articles and posting them on slashdot.
Get a life... camel jockey!
Slashdot Mirror
Let me repeat one more time - you'll never win it through war :) So good luck there.
;)
:)
And as for doing so good professionaly... kudos to you. More power and success to you man. Rock on tampon! Considering the copious amounts of Indians all over... its good to know that a tiny percentage is making it through.
As for your vastly broad generalizations about Muslims, life, and everything else... they carry absolutely no weight. Stop flailing your arms so blindly... you'll only end up hurting yourself
As for sending money... please provide proof as to which moderate muslims you know of sponsor terrorism... I really would like to know. Your claims are baseless.
Relax a bit, or you'll spontaeously combust (I'm sure you'll blame every Muslim for it too). Cry baby.
Hmm, how come your points start at 4? :) Forgot to delete the numbers off the rest of the numbers you copied off of:/ compculture.html
http://www.hinduweb.org/home/general_sites/essays
It's great that you have so much passion. If only you could focus it into promoting peace, you could achieve wonders.
Anyways, we have to stop living in the past, and try to work towards peace for the future... it won't happen if we keep digging up graves. It is quite unfortunate if all that the essay mentions happened in the name of Islam, by people who believed themselves to be ambassadors of Islam. I still believe that the root of all problems is Man... we need to fix ourselves and stop using religion as an excuse to kill or promote violence and hatred.
I would really like to see us co-exist peacefully... and be tolerant and respectful of other cultures, beliefs. I dunno what else to say to you, but the only way towards a solution is educating people... don't know how and when that will happen... but I hope it does, so the generations to come can live in peace.
I don't think it's either you or us... it's all of us. People who want it fixed the right way are too scared to speak up, cos they know they will be hunted down by their own kind and called bigots. People who do speak up, are the ones who believe in using force / weapons to fight, which will never work, unfortunately. And the wheels... turn turn turn.
You're obviously up at the oddest hours watching your e-mail, aren't you? I couldn't help but respond. :)
..." (Al-Maidah 5:32)
Here's the sad part about this whole thing. The meaning of infidel is so fluid, and I, as would be other people, am of the opinion that it is a misunderstood interpretation amongst Muslims and non-Muslims alike. For example, there are so many parts of the Quran which talk about religious freedom and honoring lives of other souls, that are ignored by Muslims and non-Muslims when understanding Quranic teachings. I certainly wasn't brought up to believe that all non-believers, etc must be wiped out off the face of the earth - the only time I feel something similar is when I'm watching a Pakistan v India cricket match, but that is only limited to wiping the Indian cricket team out of the series. FYI, my wife supports India, being from India. Back to the original point I was trying to make: It is unforunate that the actions of Muslims have often been thought of as what Islam itself is. What a group of Muslims does is not what Islam preaches. Islam is against killing of a single soul without justice - it detests killing, as the Quran addresses: "... whoever slays a soul, unless it be for murder or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men;
Here is what moderate (contemporary) Muslims believe in, with respect to indfidels:
"... belief is that this word is a synonym for the word 'Kaafir' in Quran with respect to the question under discussion. If that is the case, it needs to be said that non-believers who live in the age of messengers of God are a different class and category than non-believers otherwise. It is for this reason that in the history of mankind, whenever a messenger of God came to a nation, he proved his messenger ship clearly and plainly to his nation so much so that they had no confusion about him being a bearer of truth. As a result, those people who, after having known the truth, still denied the messenger were passed on a judgment in this world by the Almighty. In case of polytheists, this judgment was in form of their annihilation, for example the great flood on Noah (pbuh)'s nation when those who rejected his message were drowned. A similar fate was decided by the Almighty on the people of Lot (pbuh), Abraham (pbuh), Salih (pbuh) and other messengers.
It needs to be understood in this context that at the end of the mission of Muhammad (pbuh) when God, in his absolute Knowledge, knew that those who were rejecting faith were not rejecting because they had any confusion with regards to it, rather they were rejecting out of mere arrogance and pride, He commanded Muslims to slay down those 'infidels' from amongst the polytheists. The Jews and Christians, on the other hand, because they belonged to monotheistic faith, were to be fought against until they became politically subservient to Muslims. This was done after providing both the idolaters and the people of the Book (Jews and Christians) sufficient time to understand whether Muhammad (pbuh) was a real messenger of God and the message he brought forward was actually the message from God.
This is God's law specific to messengers as I have explained above. Since a messenger of God is not living with us anymore, and we do not know that which is in the hearts of people, we cannot call them 'infidels' and commit such acts (9/11, etc). In a time such as today, every soul must continue to strive to find the truth and live by it."
With the above in mind, I hope you don't classify all Muslims as "evil". Your fight should not be against Muslims... your fight should be against people who promote violence, and not all Pakistani Muslims hate Hindus. You might not believe this but we had quite a few hindu's in my school in Pakistan. One of them is quite a close friend of mine... and was never made to feel that she was any different from us... in fact, we never felt that she was not a part of ou
Haha! Let me make a few things clear... contrary to your "assumption" (which would cover most of the crap you spit out) I am not a hindu or jew hater. In fact, a few of my best friends from college are hindus, as well as Sikhs. The kind I do hate is your kind... the kind that instigate and provoke hatred, be it Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Christian, whose sole mission in life is to make sure there is no peace on the planet. Brainwashed nincompoops, who don't have a mind of their own, but instead read articles all over the web, and form their opinion based on that. Do you even know the ground realities? Have you ever been there? Have you been with the people who did suffer? Be it Muslims, Hindus or Jews? From your previous posts, you seem to think Hindu's are above all... does your religion not teach you that all mankind is equal? I'm sure it does... but you don't follow that religion do you? You have your own religion going on slashdot... schmuck lord. Don't get your panties in a bunch, you little pansy, sitting behind your computer screen. If you're that concerned, go start something... pick up a placard and start a protest. Damn fool! Haha!
:) Maybe you'll lead that front? Yeah right! I'm sure your range is limited to the 5 foot (your height I'm assuming - oh crap, im getting your disease) radius around your computer.
:)
:) You must be a Hindu MULLAH!
:) And nothing in life is worth a headache I say.
:) Happy Hating!
>You will when Pakistan is surrounded by America, Israel, and India. Soon, they will answer for their hate.
Mmm... as for that lousy threat... pffft, you wish.
> makes a living throwing rocks at Jews
I didn't you could make a living throwing rocks at Jews?! Thats news to me! Dude, you're quite well-tapped into... land-of-sucky-information, aren't you?!
> and has a Yankee boot up his ass, that's rather amusing.
I have nothing against "yankees" and they have nothing against me. You're the one with all the hatred against the world so you must speak from experience? Must've been painful! Wait... but then you probably got yo' momma's heels up yo' ass so many time that you didn't feel them yankee boots at all (please spare me the details, i really don't want to know)
>I have some advice, seeing your virulent Hindu-hatred for what it is
Again, I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that my hatred for Hindu's is virulent... did you really go to university? It almost seems like you went to some Hindu brainwashing bootcamp where you have been led/forced to believe that all Muslims are evil and must be annihilated.
Now I have some advice for you... get a life. Yeah, really there is such a thing... and it's beautiful. A few pointers on how you can make a difference. And writing up articles on wikpedia and promoting them here isn't one of them. Go teach people in India about AIDS, and how to prevent it from spreading. Fix all the problems in your house before you go out trying to fix the world's problems. Go make a difference where you will be recognized for your efforts. Don't sit around provoking anger, violence and hatred, through meaningless posts, cos all you'll get is grief... it won't get you ANYWHERE buddy. Do you really think that your rants will solve the hate issues?
Really, I wonder where all your hatred stems from, cos it sure makes you sound like you're part of some cult.
Alright, I've had enough... I'm out. Take it easy man... get out of your stinky hole and go breathe in some fresh air. Enjoy life... or soon you'll get a terrible headache.
See ya! Peace! Mmm wait... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace. Just so you get an idea of what it is... yeah, you can find some GOOD stuff on wikipedia too.
PS. Don't bother replying back, as you won't be getting a response. This was fun!
Love what you've done with this thread. Not! Are you gathering troops for a hate-club? It's quite interesting how you talk about muslims instigating, and you here are pretty much doing the instigation. Clown! Relax man, there's much more to life than wasting time googling all these links up - I doubt anyone has even bothered clicking on them. You talk about using force blahdeeblah, against muslims - what're you doing sitting here in the US? Go back to India and do something about it. You're 'all-talk' - lets see some action punk! when are we going to see your name in the papers? One more question, why so much hate? Were you harrassed by muslims at some point in your life? I bet you're one of those pesky little indians plotting your revenge... sitting in a hole in your curry-stinking apartment... everyone around you probably thinks you're a goody two shoes - shy 'n humble, cos you don't have the kahunas to stand up to anyone. So you spend your time writing up wikipedia articles and posting them on slashdot. Get a life... camel jockey!