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Pakistan Plans Mobile WiMax Network Rollout
OneInEveryCrowd writes "Pakistan is apparently ready to move ahead of the USA in the deployment of a mobile wireless network." From the article: "The deployment is a milestone in the spread of WiMax, a superfast wireless technology that has a range of up to 30 miles and can deliver broadband at a theoretical maximum of 75 megabits per second. The 802.16-2004 standard, which is used in fixed WiMax networks, is being skipped in favor of a large-scale introduction of 802.16e, which was only recently agreed upon by the WiMax Forum. 'We made the decision 18 months ago to jump over (802.16-2004) and go straight to 802.16e,' Paul Sergeant, Motorola's marketing director for Motowi4, told ZDNet UK on Tuesday. 'We've been working on it for a while, which is how we're able to ship so soon after agreement.'"
I don't know how USA is reacting to this but i'm sure they want to be bigger and badder. Good job pakistan :P
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30 miles? Now they don't even need a presence on the ground, unless the antennas are very directional.
Hopefully this new wireless technology will help them crack the 50% literacy milestone. I'm sure the 4% of the population with internet access will really appreaciate it, though.
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I don't know how well it's going to work. For a coverage range of 30 miles, at theortical maximum of 75 Mbps, that's not much per user. Sometimes my cable connection could get slow in my house, with my other roomates using it, and thats an 8 Mbps connection, wired. Also, does a 30 mile range maximum mean in each direction, so a sphere of radius 30 miles? God I would hate to be on that.
"ready to move ahead of the USA"
We get it already, 30% of high school kids drop out, our President has an IQ of 60, and smart kids are beaten in the streets, what the hell do you expect?
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It was bad enough when South Korea got DSL lines ten times faster than our cable modems, but now this is just embarassing.
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Though I do honestly hope WiMax succeeds, there's absolutely no gaurantee that they will be able to get the consumers to buy these things like hotcakes. Quite franky 802.11b at 11MBit/s is good enough to carry (US anyways) consumer broadband which averages around 1.5Mbit down 384kbit up. Until broadband reaches the speeds where a consumers WiFi link is what's slowing them down, that's when we'll get the upgrades. But in the meantime, unless people suddenly have a real use for the increased speed/distance, I can't see think taking off so quickly.
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Really the technology for this was available to do this in cities with the 802.11b spec if the last mile net connections were actually neutral (which they are supposed to be in most cities).
G seemed like a good spec, obviously it wasn't fast enough to run a corperate or even a power users connection off but if they could have hit the theoretical maximum it would have been fine, these new specs won't allow small deployments which can service many users so they aren't a huge improvement over local wireless points (Also increased security concerns as it's not just neighborhood traffic but potentially whole city traffic which will be available for packet sniffing) it just centralizes a system which is only important if you're commited to an upgrade cycle (Which would actually be nice after we got borked by the western isps).
At some point the range will be there and I really hope they have backwards compatability worked out by then, users don't know anything about the interoperability of the wireless standards and they shouldn't have to.
Also the security standards are pretty stupid as well, routers support wireless security features that don't work AT ALL... why bother!
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Now they can oppress women and demand total religious cultism without those pesky wires!
Of course the opposite could also happen: the Administration could equally spin this up that wireless networking == antiChrist == terrorism.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
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While 802.16e is mainly a mobile technology, it also supports "Fixed" access and mesh networking, which means that signals can be relayed from one access point to another instead of needing to hardwire every connection.
This should help implementation and penetration of the region by reducing the overall amount of infrastructure required.
I think this has much more to do with the fact that 2nd and 3rd world countries never had telephone infrastructure to begin with, so it would make sense that they just skip it and go right to wireless technologies. And as long as you're going to a wireless technology, might as well make it the cutting edge one.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
Wow, a country that is ahead of the United States in implementing wireless technology. That's something extraordinary. I'm glad that didn't happen with mobile telephony.
Alcatel is teaming up with the Government of India to set up a WiMax development center in the South Indian city of Chennai and the products developed there will be marketed worldwide. It appears that parts of Asia prefer to rollout wireless data networks as opposed to wireline ones, probably due to the fact that it is easier to deploy wireless networks. With Europe going ahead with the adoption of UMTS and HSDPA, it looks like wireless data networks are going to become pretty ubiquitous in many parts of the world. I wonder what new applications we will see once the pipe to the phone/wireless device gets much bigger than what it is today.
No, I am not talking about the wimax, I am taking about F16, missile program, nukes ... great country!
A US based company in Pakistan is using WiMax for its call center. Sales Rep will be sitting at home working with WiMax and will be monitored by a webcam (I know it sounds lousy and 1984ish, hope it works). This will introduce a whole new way for outsourced companies to work here.
Good to see Pakistan has it's priorities in order.
And the article didn't even mention pricing, which will have to be pretty low if they expect the average Pakastani to be able to pay for it.
Presidents get told what to do. His next set of marching orders will be coming after the next bilderberg conference, which is soon in some city in canada I think. That meeting and a few more with the planetary bankers and controllers is where the real power on the planet is. Presidents and prime ministers, etc are chosen there, they get their orders from those sorts of people through their personal handlers. This election stuff is for show biz purposes.
Perhaps the whole WiMax thing was pushed to ensure decent connectivity and pipelines for luring Outsourcing business to Pakistan. Considering the perpetual inferiority complex Pakistan suffers because of India, this is a last ditch attepmt to rev up the infrastructure so that they grab a pie of the dollars pouring into India, China and Phillipines.
I wonder how they plan to use it. Most likely Al-Qaeda employees will now have faster access to Google Earth.
Expect to see more webcasts from Bin Laden when the Pakistanis finally roll out the service.
So is this just and Ad for another country with WiMax, because i'm pretty sure its been rolled out elsewhere before.
Not to mention the places planning on rolling it out with trials already in place.
At least it'll prove to certain trolls that its not vaporware and always has been a long way from it.
The advantages I see in this are of mainly areas where conventional phone lines cannot carry a signal well; Eg. Rural Areas or Certain Buildings.
Parent says: "..cheap wireless broadband access for the masses is GREAT!"
True, but I rtfa and I don't recall anything about pricing. I suspect that the masses will not benefit anytime soon.
get the word out!
A Great milestone. seems like mobility is becoming very popular in south-asian countries where it's very hard to develop and maintain cable infrastructure.
There's a HUGE market for highspeed connectivity and other telecom + economic sectors in Pakistan. After a big boost in cellular/telecom industry, Pakistan is soon going to see a broadband revolution. Here in Pakistan, Prices are very very high for a good high-speed connection.. it costs more than 50$ to get a 128kbits shared connection with no bandwidth caps. But looks like things are changing rapidly.. big players are coming into the broadband market and soon we'll see a price PLUS quality competition, which will obviously benefit the end-user. Same happened with mobiles/cellular industry, and now we have one of the most low-cost tariffs with quality of service being high.
AT&T did its bit to puncture the WiMAX hype today, while providing an update on three of its trial WiMAX deployments. Behzed Nadji, AT&T's Chief Architect, debunked stories about 70 Mbit/s throughput over distances of 70 miles for WiMAX. "There's little reality to that," he said. A range of 3 to 5 miles and 2 Mbit/s was closer to reality. In fact, one of AT&T's three deployments rarely saw throughput rise above 500 kbit/s, he said. Source
I can already provide point-to-multipoint 360 coverage with megabit connections simultaniously to over a hundred customers with 802.11g using three channel sector antennas. The range depends on how big a receiving antenna they have. WiMAX isn't about revolutionizing speed and coverage. It's about intellegent contention, load control and QoS, which the existing 802s are lacking. Better for real mesh networking and reliable VoIP.
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Evidently, a pious Islamofascist can only go so long without broadband pr0n.
All five Pakistani internet users are joyous.
There are a bunch of low-cost no-name recruiting agencies searching around for engineers to go to Pakistan for a WiMax project the last month or two. It doesn't hold too well for the project that they are trying to pay Paki prices, but expect to find experienced first world engineers.
I had a twisted conversation with one of them two weeks ago. They want all the usual impossibilities, such as 5-10 years of WiMax experience, 15-30 years industry experience but only 18-25 years old, have to be able to program in PowerPoint, etc. I played along, and tried to convince the HR droid to at least pass my CV on, as people closer to the core of the project are probably more competent and my chances of scoring the contract much higher. I told her that they needed to contact me soon, as I was also being recruited by Motorola to do another WiMax rollout so they had only 5 days to get back to me. The deadline has passed, so I guess my holding out for minimum wage was too much for them.
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Who the f#ck cares about this piddly installation....except for Osama who is can finally go wireless in his cave.
And if you want to nitpick, Pakistan has a much more hostile terrain, a lack of already existing infrastructure and by doing this they kill two (or three) birds with one stone. (A cheap easy voice-over-IP telephone infrastructure, cheap easy wireless national internet service and arguably a relatively cheap investment in the long term future.) Whereas the U.S. has a (relatively) friendly terrain, a pre-existing infrastructure of both phone lines and cable lines and would cost far, far more than what Pakistan is paying because of the political attention it would recieve (read : political mess).
"He's not stereotyping. Pakistani Hindus live in mortal fear of their lives. They are publicly stoned to death, forced to wear armbands (like the Jewish people during the Nazi Ausrotten in Poland), and Hindu women often get gang-raped and molten metal poured into their eyes and ears and buried alive for wearing makeup in public or for not following the Islamic 'hijab'. These are state sanctioned atrocities advertised as "blasphemy laws".
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This is a complete misrepresentation of the true situation.
I live in the capital of Pakistan. And Hindus live here respectable lives. In the current Governing Cabinet there is a Hindu minister! Hindus have been a major part in Pakistani Cricket.
In the street I live, their is a Hindu government officer, but here in pakistan we dont think in terms of religion!! I dont know hows its in hte rural areas. What armbands are you talking about???? There is no discrimination with respect to religion here, noone is asked to wear armbands for their religious believes.
Right here in the capital there is a Hindu Temple, just as their is a Masonic lodge and two Churches. In Karachi there's even a Synagogue!
There are more attacks on groups of other religions in India then their are in any other country, Kashmir, Gujarat etc..
And What Islamic Hijab?? Pakistan is not Afghanistan or Iran only a minority of women wear that thing! Just visit the Capital you'll see women going around the street in jeans!!
Thanks for pointing to that wikipedia article I'll update it with the true facts, it has to have been made by some one who has no knowledge of the ground realities!!
The government is expanding internet access in an attempt to maintain Pakistan's top rank amongst nations that search Google for "sex".
http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex&ctab=1&sa=N
I spent much time in Pakistan (over 3 years) and I have had first hand experience with the limited growth of the internet in rural Pakistan. Outside of the mega cities of Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpinidi(twin city Islamabad), rural areas had very limited access to the internet via 56k modem based internet.
During my last visit (last may) I witnessed a massive surge in cell phone use and purchases by the middle class and dare I say lower income brackets (very parallel to us in Canada and America). Access to information and technology should never be restricted to income or literacy.
Do you really think the people of rural USA or rural Canada are any better or worse than those in rural Pakistan. Hardly, I grew up in rural Ontario and I can not see a major difference (apart from religions though the rural south west of Punjab province in Pakistan is dominated by Christian populations). Regardless of country, income, class information and access to it should always be free.
Shame on use for thinking anything else.
The real boom behind this is the fact land lines require a position on a waiting list which means a heavy bribe. Cell phones and wireless technology have side stepped dated briery practices because there is so much competition in Pakistan for this to take root. While WiMax may not better the poor it gives the poor rural population a technology they would have had access to otherwise. This in turn leads to education (in various forms) and an increase in job potential.
More development of wireless access in developing nations seems expected. These nations don't have the resources to make everything landline and so they spend the money trying to improve their network prevalence through wireless methods.
I'm not just making this stuff out of my rear-end. Look at the land-line phone vs cellular phone use in the United States vs. a developing country like India or Pakistan . Cell phone use in developing countries is more prevalent than land-line phones. Why should we expect something different for wireless vs. land-line internet connections?
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I have worked in one of company of Abu Dhabi group who owned Warid,Wateen and Bankalfalah.They launched free creditcards 3 years back and literally captured the entire Pakistani market.I expect similar thing by Wateen as well.
you could comeup with facts to support your statment that Pakistan is not a developing country rather whining for no reason.Can you? I am here
He has been relying on satellite connection by US.Didnt u know tht??? I am here
First off in all the searches Pakistan's bar was way bigger than the one in second place, and I find it quite unusual for that to be the case. In all my years living here I've never noticed any unnatural tendencies of anybody towards the sexual habits of an animal of any type. Then Secondly, in these lewd term's results, if you go into the languages tab, it shows Arabic. Now, logically speaking, if the country on top was Pakistan, then surely the language on top should be English. I don't think too many people in Pakistan use google in Arabic...and this seems to be the case only if you enter some lewd terms like the ones I mentioned. If you enter 'Pakistan', top rated region is Pakistan, and top language is English (which should be expected). But if you enter something like donkey sex, top region is Pakistan, and top language becomes Arabic. How google trends comes up with the connection of donkey sex, pakistan and arabic is beyond me. So by keeping these two factor,its not difficulty to get that google *might* engineer the trends specifically for Pakistan and Arabic(due to Islam)?
why r you wasting your energy to prove yourself pious and saint while we know things happen in India like gujrat riots,babri mosque destruction,selling baby foetus(Opps) etc etc etc.calm down,take a beer and enjoy defeat of India in cricket series. p.s:Deepak parwani is the biggest fashion designer in Pakistan and He is a ummmmm *Hindu*
And I wonder why YOU are wasting YOUR energy trying to portray Pakistan as a pious country while we all know that it is dominated by mad mullahs with a Koran in one hand and a submachine gun on the other, and you treat your women like you treat your cattle, and train terrorists to fight in Kashmir, where they bury Hindus in mass graves after torturing them to death,and mobs burn down the US consulate over some silly cartoon,and that Pakistani immigrants in the UK and US are mostly poor, or in jail, or both, while ours are industrious and wealthy and help their country of origin constantly.
Why don't YOU face the fact that we are better-connected doing better economically than you, and actually have a future in the modern world?
Oh, and the "Babri Masjid" is called the Ramjanmabhoomi. The mosque was built over a Hindu temple, destroyed, together with it's worshippers, by Mir Baqr in the 16th century in a fit of genocidal mania. Our rightful claim to it is no different from the right of the Israelis to reclaim their holy shrine, the "Temple Mount" from muslims.
And no muslims were harmed physically during it's rightful demolition, while the Islamic terrorist attacks on it have killed Hindus. Agsin, the subsequent "riots" were in retaliation to islamic murders.We retaliate, never instigate.
So there you are, more Islamic terrorism, right under the noses of the liberal socialists who love them so dearly.
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Do you speak English?
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
Unfortunately, Britain's industry snoozed all through the ultra-Conservative Thatcher years and now has very little industry to speak of. Steel - all gone. Coal - all gone. Engineering - damn near all gone, even the mighty BAe Systems only has a tiny site on the Clyde these days. Computers - well, in Scotland we have a fairly healthy games industry in Dundee I suppose.
It all went wrong on the Conservative's watch. The US might do well to learn from that.
I am not wasting any word to potray my country is a developing country because it Is. its so funny that this post was all about WiMax connection in Pakistan and ppl like you start discussing politics,ignoring evil facts of your own country. Keep your lame stories about janam bhoomi and other shits in your lungi because nobody believe in it at all.I know it hurts when something good happen in Pakistan because u guys never accepted Pakistan as a seprate state and I am glad when that you guys have been suffering for Pakistanfobia for last 55 years,keeps suffering and keep making such posts so that we keep getting updates of Indian attitudes *wicked smile*. If you really love your India,do something for thousands of ppl who sleep on streets of Mumbai,your big econ is failed to feed them,Curse on such development.
And I pity your people for focusing more on Hindu-Hatred, anti-semitism, and general purpose islamic mania when huge chunks of your population starve to death, same as ours. The difference is that we acknowledge the problem and are working to fix it, which will take time. I personally prompted Indian-owned companies in the Bay Area to send over $150,000 to cuddalore during the Tsunami last year, and regularly donate to the India Development and Relief Fund from my meager stipend as a graduate student. Did you do anything during the earthquake in your country? I'll bet not. Too busy with anti-Hindu pogroms and rioting over cartoons of Moha-MAD the rapist pedophile prophet.
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Oh, and plenty of people sympathise with the Ramjanmabhoomi. Hundreds of millions of Hindus, and many educated and informed westerners as well:
y a/notemple.htmlg enocide.html
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/368
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodh
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/irin/
You're right about one thing. Mine is a poor country (though not as poor as your Islamic Sharia law infested sewer). We have mud huts, you have yours. The difference is that our mud huts will not remain mud huts because we are building factories and cities in their place. Your mud huts will no longer remain mud huts because Americans are bombing them into little holes in the ground in Waziristan while you people scurry like ants and hide behind Osama bin-Laden. Hah! Pakistan's great hero, bin-Laden, isn't even a Pakistani.
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as I said,i hit the mose senstive part of your body and I am really enjoying this.You can continue to preach your lame theories about your country and others,oh I say,baseless too.You are ignorant too,not something new since you are an *indian* [Slang]. regrding what pakistanis did during EQ in last year.You dont need to ask me,search Internet resources like BBC etc and you will learn something new. Thanks for showing me *Indian face* again,its still same,filthy. *grin*.Lets see how long do you babble on in a *wimax* post about Pakistan.
Thank you for proving that it's muslims, not Americans, who troll the internet spreading hate-speech and ad-hominem attacks...
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1. Returning democracy to the people of Pakistan (instead of their usual military dictatorship)
2. Stop proliferating nuclear weapons
3. Control those madrassas where foreign born British Pakistanis get training (i.e. London bombing July 7th 2005)
4. Stop allowing the Taliban and Al-Qaeda elements refuge in Western Pakistan
5. Stop interferring with the internal affairs of Afghanistan as they have done in the past
me a troll?lol,look who's talking,dude it was you who started whining about every irrelevent thing in a telecom POST.Watch out! you just spitted on your own face.Keep babbling! *grin*
I hope you will remain as jovial a hindu hater when your country ends in a radioactive fireball.
l'Homme n'est Rien l'Oeuvre Tout: Gustave Flaubert to George Sand
>You are ignorant too,not something new since you are an *indian* [Slang]
Go to hell you stupid Paki. Indians are ignorant, are they. We didn't seem so ignorant when your "Abbajaan" and one lakh others surrendered to India in 1971.
I am a Bnei Menashe Jew, and I *know* that I would be lynched and massacred in any part of Pakistan, whereas in India (I'm in Israel now) I lived in peace all my life in Assam until I emigreated.
You muslims rendered the entire subcontinent into a flaming wasteland, for who? For a prophet who lived 1500 years ago who doesn't know Pakistan or doesn;t care about you any more than India does?
You pathetic cabal of ignorant servile fools!