Sorry, in your analogy the OS is not the stero. It's the engine block and maybe surrounding crankshafts etc.
If you rip the OS out of a comp you get s lifeless hulk. Swapping an OS *does* take skills, and while I'm pretty good on the app side, I never really learned the chops of the OS. Swapping out an engine can also be done... with skills. I wouldn't DARE try that.
Uh... I don't mean no disrespect or nothin... but *why* do you have Vista? We learned in class that roughly every third-ish OS Microsoft puts out is the one to get. (You experts can correct the version number here). I think it was like this:
DOS 5: Get DOS 6 and Win 2.0: Skip Win 3.11: Get Win 95 and Win98 1st: Skip Win 98 SE: Get Win ME: Skip Win2000: Get Win XP through SP1: Skip WinXP with SP2: Get Vista: Skip
So Sir? I wanna know if I should go from XP to Win7? Or do I skip that and wait for Windows 8?
MS's first act when releasing a Beta was to include a bug that sliced off parts of mp3 files.
I think they're moving it up as the place holder opposite Snow Leopard for Mac, and *then* they'll hunker down again and get back to what they were supposed to be developing.
It's a dead heat between ReadWrite, Math, and CompSci. A perfect tripod.
We wail and moan the lack of computer skills, and if you don't learn early how the computerized age mindset works at a gut level, it's basically like a lost language. Unless they wake up and study like demons later say in college, such as my exact generational strata, the minute they graduate without comp skills they get hosed applying for a job.
I know there's a lot of flotsam in the threads, but "citation needed" comes out really arrogant because either he's right and Mr. Citation won't admit it, or he's wrong and Mr. C. won't bother to post the counter example. It's "I'm not even going to bother to read your post at all" - the internet version of "Talk to the Hand".
Your average poster with solid karma is likely to be at least half right, but botching a detail. Anwswer the thread instead.
If you graft his letter into some other equally cleverly repurposed music they provide from somewhere, does that make him an Artist? Then can you wiggle their rules such they have to "treat him like they treat an artist on their roster"?
You would send him back his rightfully earned $21.99 plus $7.88 Handling fee and thank him for his work! Remember to buy your second copy for the car.
Kurt Godel FTW! (Whose work showed that data is data, and the context is selectible.)
I only declared UserInterfaces WithGraphics as TehCat'sMeow.
By no means have our current designs reached the apex, although they are usable.
I have had two mice operating at once, usually as a result of some weird testing though. Apple&iPhone are on to something with touchpad gestures. There's EVERY reason why you can have a gesture pad operated by one hand with the mouse on the other.
Heck, hook up a Rubik's cube to the OS so that you can compose an entire letter with 137 twists of the cube. My main point was that while easy to program for, DOS was a bear on usability because it only had 1 direction of input and once you were stuck in a badly written program deep into nested input, the human feel was gone and it became very upsetting. ("No, after tab-tab-tab-altF1-tab-pageUp, it's F-SIX, not F-twelve, and then you do the tab-tab-AltF5-PageDown-Pagedown part, and you can fix that sub schedule.")
I recall a few folks here echoing my aesthetic taste for a comp to run fast and clean by heavily stripping down the junk.
I'd like to see a modular DLL version of Windows where it doesn't bother to boot the whole OS, but only the parts you need! Then something like UAC will kick in to say "that weird last action requires loading addl components, please wait..."
(Someone has done this with Linux, but since I don't "speak linux" yet, I am using Windows for my example.)
Nope. AI is the holy grail, and as such it needs such ridiculously complex resources we still won't be there for a decade.
We can get SubAI Expert Fragments right now. But there's an entire layer full of meta processing interactive context containers concurrently with the limited task that's going to chew cpu.
I'd like to say it would need 64 cores with about 1 process per core for 60 cores and 4 cores to manage it all into something useable at the people level.
Lately they quit waiting for Fast Enough and began adding stuff that made your expensive comp feel like a 486.
Some trolls were saying "who cares about efficiency" the past couple of years. Now we care. Like that other post elsewhere, we grew into features pretty well. Now it's time to slice the efficiency cake for 2 iterations. Win7 is Polished Vista.
Let's hear about Windows 8!
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I like Pretty interfaces. They take just a little of the drudgery out of work. I design some baroque interface schemes because I like to pretend I'm working on some alien computer out of Star Trek.
But you hit on the divider line: Colors and Fonts are Cheap. "If it moves, kill it".
What I think I hear you saying, translated, is "you keep manual mini-notes of 30 words or less on discrete topics."
I try to use PostIts for really ultra-short things that I know will go away in less than a couple hours. But when suddenly some topic cascades, I gather the 7-odd Postit notes and then follow the issue on a re-purposed Staples Desk Calendar. Those little squares are the same size, and lined! Then you can track some 60 episodes per page with 3-stage Progress per episode. Then when there's only about 3-4 issues left I clean up the battle scarred mess into one 8x11 sheet of paper drawn into quadrants, whose issues are typically the ones "parked". You can scan those and just look at them once a month to see if someone woke up & fixed something.
The scary thing is this is valid. There's an unstated rule that cheap things sometimes have a certain weird type of tolerance built in that would damage something sensitive.
I believe that ThunderingNewbies are due to make one beautifully colossal blunder within the first week of using ____, so it might as well be on something they can throw away and pretend no one saw them.
But I do agree this is a very special use - no one should have delusions of doing *work* on an entry device.
Poignant little post, so let's take a good look at it.
I answer "Both" - you were (forgiveably) naive and it WAS a simpler online time, so that's a draw. Take my theory that it might have called for a peculiar brand of wisdom to see correctly into the future to now.
We do know that when suitably annoyed, the Great Online Collective can pivot-leverage some expert to dig up *anyone*. Some cases are a little harder than others. But the flip side of the Long Tail is that it's also too much bother to really roast anyone if they haven't totally ticked you off.
I think this is the absolute cusp of the switchover into Web 3.11 (to coin a joke) which sees the UltraSharing of Web 2.0 as a good thing gone sour. The problem is far, far tougher than most of them think. It goes to the thundering core of how our entire species survives, crashing into a technology that never existed.
It used to be that Fame = Money (barring mistakes.) Now we got Notoriety is Free. 15 million people view a YouTube video and all they get is a few ad link hit revenue? You gotta be kidding me.
The late 1990's had a weird mood because it felt like a compressed timeline. Courtesy of American business culture, if you hyperfocus on Now, you get fantastic distortions which they then use to try to sell you stuff. Problem is, Next Month rolls around.
With the fade of Web 2.0, we have to take a serious look at deciding "what do I do with myself now?"
Obama has sent clear signals that he is ratcheting down the "1984-Live" culture that Bush got America into. But even he has to compromise to survive his term.
For the next decade-ish we'll struggle to learn Anti-Troll skills, and salacious gossip will be so truly boring that it won't matter. Web 3.11 will have a Pro-Privacy bent, to the theme that people can completely remold themselves as "personal brands" like corporations do. I'd like to think I represent the barest early example.
That's what continues to be so mind bendingly confusing about Microsoft. I'm sure the devs did like you said and borrowed some 20 year old random samples floating around MS archives. You need something to code on, I get it.
So then it comes time to make the commercial. They couldn't be bothered to get some real sounds, or real actors to present it. But at least 3 people on the fifth floor have an IQ of 150, so you have to wonder what peverse reverse logic is operating. "If we deliberately use guys from or dev team who, *just like you* are not musicians, and show that songsmith can drag them kicking and screaming into a song, it will be more "real" as a demo". Or something.
B. That activity is not a sport. It's Entertainment.
Read Mick Foley's books. The *outcomes* are scripted, but the moves have to be executed, and it takes *more* skill to perform some of them without actually killing your show partner. When they goof is when it all goes wrong and we see what those moves would look like in a street fight.
So, grinding back on topic, we need to borrow the back end and re-hook it with our own storehouse of front end music. I have no idea why MS thought they were restricted to a MIDI sounding sound library. All they need do is get some 5 of the thousands of starving B- musicians who could use a month's work, and make a sound library of real instruments.
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Sorry, in your analogy the OS is not the stero. It's the engine block and maybe surrounding crankshafts etc.
If you rip the OS out of a comp you get s lifeless hulk. Swapping an OS *does* take skills, and while I'm pretty good on the app side, I never really learned the chops of the OS. Swapping out an engine can also be done ... with skills. I wouldn't DARE try that.
Your stereo bit is like a monitor choice.
(Ed Gruberman)
Sir? Sir?
Uh... I don't mean no disrespect or nothin ... but *why* do you have Vista? We learned in class that roughly every third-ish OS Microsoft puts out is the one to get. (You experts can correct the version number here). I think it was like this:
DOS 5: Get
DOS 6 and Win 2.0: Skip
Win 3.11: Get
Win 95 and Win98 1st: Skip
Win 98 SE: Get
Win ME: Skip
Win2000: Get
Win XP through SP1: Skip
WinXP with SP2: Get
Vista: Skip
So Sir? I wanna know if I should go from XP to Win7? Or do I skip that and wait for Windows 8?
(/Ed Gruberman)
I'm not so sure anymore. What about the hordes of folks here who don't even attempt to read TFA?
Sure.
MS's first act when releasing a Beta was to include a bug that sliced off parts of mp3 files.
I think they're moving it up as the place holder opposite Snow Leopard for Mac, and *then* they'll hunker down again and get back to what they were supposed to be developing.
I'll go further.
It's a dead heat between ReadWrite, Math, and CompSci. A perfect tripod.
We wail and moan the lack of computer skills, and if you don't learn early how the computerized age mindset works at a gut level, it's basically like a lost language. Unless they wake up and study like demons later say in college, such as my exact generational strata, the minute they graduate without comp skills they get hosed applying for a job.
That phrase bothers me.
I know there's a lot of flotsam in the threads, but "citation needed" comes out really arrogant because either he's right and Mr. Citation won't admit it, or he's wrong and Mr. C. won't bother to post the counter example. It's "I'm not even going to bother to read your post at all" - the internet version of "Talk to the Hand".
Your average poster with solid karma is likely to be at least half right, but botching a detail. Anwswer the thread instead.
The legal implications sound fantastic. Pretzel anyone?
Try this.
If you graft his letter into some other equally cleverly repurposed music they provide from somewhere, does that make him an Artist? Then can you wiggle their rules such they have to "treat him like they treat an artist on their roster"?
You would send him back his rightfully earned $21.99 plus $7.88 Handling fee and thank him for his work! Remember to buy your second copy for the car.
Kurt Godel FTW!
(Whose work showed that data is data, and the context is selectible.)
Ach, my friendly Mr. Martin.
I only declared UserInterfaces WithGraphics as TehCat'sMeow.
By no means have our current designs reached the apex, although they are usable.
I have had two mice operating at once, usually as a result of some weird testing though. Apple&iPhone are on to something with touchpad gestures. There's EVERY reason why you can have a gesture pad operated by one hand with the mouse on the other.
Heck, hook up a Rubik's cube to the OS so that you can compose an entire letter with 137 twists of the cube. My main point was that while easy to program for, DOS was a bear on usability because it only had 1 direction of input and once you were stuck in a badly written program deep into nested input, the human feel was gone and it became very upsetting.
("No, after tab-tab-tab-altF1-tab-pageUp, it's F-SIX, not F-twelve, and then you do the tab-tab-AltF5-PageDown-Pagedown part, and you can fix that sub schedule.")
I recall a few folks here echoing my aesthetic taste for a comp to run fast and clean by heavily stripping down the junk.
I'd like to see a modular DLL version of Windows where it doesn't bother to boot the whole OS, but only the parts you need! Then something like UAC will kick in to say "that weird last action requires loading addl components, please wait..."
(Someone has done this with Linux, but since I don't "speak linux" yet, I am using Windows for my example.)
No man, GUI was the greatest thing to hit comps since ENIAC.
I don't ever want to prepare taxes in DOS again.
Nope. AI is the holy grail, and as such it needs such ridiculously complex resources we still won't be there for a decade.
We can get SubAI Expert Fragments right now. But there's an entire layer full of meta processing interactive context containers concurrently with the limited task that's going to chew cpu.
I'd like to say it would need 64 cores with about 1 process per core for 60 cores and 4 cores to manage it all into something useable at the people level.
Lately they quit waiting for Fast Enough and began adding stuff that made your expensive comp feel like a 486.
Some trolls were saying "who cares about efficiency" the past couple of years. Now we care. Like that other post elsewhere, we grew into features pretty well. Now it's time to slice the efficiency cake for 2 iterations. Win7 is Polished Vista.
Let's hear about Windows 8!
I like Pretty interfaces. They take just a little of the drudgery out of work. I design some baroque interface schemes because I like to pretend I'm working on some alien computer out of Star Trek.
But you hit on the divider line: Colors and Fonts are Cheap. "If it moves, kill it".
What I think I hear you saying, translated, is "you keep manual mini-notes of 30 words or less on discrete topics."
I try to use PostIts for really ultra-short things that I know will go away in less than a couple hours. But when suddenly some topic cascades, I gather the 7-odd Postit notes and then follow the issue on a re-purposed Staples Desk Calendar. Those little squares are the same size, and lined! Then you can track some 60 episodes per page with 3-stage Progress per episode. Then when there's only about 3-4 issues left I clean up the battle scarred mess into one 8x11 sheet of paper drawn into quadrants, whose issues are typically the ones "parked". You can scan those and just look at them once a month to see if someone woke up & fixed something.
The scary thing is this is valid. There's an unstated rule that cheap things sometimes have a certain weird type of tolerance built in that would damage something sensitive.
I believe that ThunderingNewbies are due to make one beautifully colossal blunder within the first week of using ____, so it might as well be on something they can throw away and pretend no one saw them.
But I do agree this is a very special use - no one should have delusions of doing *work* on an entry device.
Unless you're REALLY good at this game, "Widowhood" is female. (The male is Widowerhood). So, my condolences. Care for a date?
William Holley, is that you?
Hello.
Poignant little post, so let's take a good look at it.
I answer "Both" - you were (forgiveably) naive and it WAS a simpler online time, so that's a draw. Take my theory that it might have called for a peculiar brand of wisdom to see correctly into the future to now.
We do know that when suitably annoyed, the Great Online Collective can pivot-leverage some expert to dig up *anyone*. Some cases are a little harder than others. But the flip side of the Long Tail is that it's also too much bother to really roast anyone if they haven't totally ticked you off.
I think this is the absolute cusp of the switchover into Web 3.11 (to coin a joke) which sees the UltraSharing of Web 2.0 as a good thing gone sour. The problem is far, far tougher than most of them think. It goes to the thundering core of how our entire species survives, crashing into a technology that never existed.
It used to be that Fame = Money (barring mistakes.) Now we got Notoriety is Free. 15 million people view a YouTube video and all they get is a few ad link hit revenue? You gotta be kidding me.
The late 1990's had a weird mood because it felt like a compressed timeline. Courtesy of American business culture, if you hyperfocus on Now, you get fantastic distortions which they then use to try to sell you stuff. Problem is, Next Month rolls around.
With the fade of Web 2.0, we have to take a serious look at deciding "what do I do with myself now?"
Obama has sent clear signals that he is ratcheting down the "1984-Live" culture that Bush got America into. But even he has to compromise to survive his term.
For the next decade-ish we'll struggle to learn Anti-Troll skills, and salacious gossip will be so truly boring that it won't matter. Web 3.11 will have a Pro-Privacy bent, to the theme that people can completely remold themselves as "personal brands" like corporations do. I'd like to think I represent the barest early example.
(Futuristic Urban Accent)
Last Call for Windows Paradise
Haurry Aup ... Haurry Aup...
In Soviet Microsoft, Beta Developers Pay You!
(Win95, WinMe, Vista)
I just checked.
No videos of Don McLean through Song$hit yet.
Time to drink out of a Klein Bottle.
That's what continues to be so mind bendingly confusing about Microsoft. I'm sure the devs did like you said and borrowed some 20 year old random samples floating around MS archives. You need something to code on, I get it.
So then it comes time to make the commercial. They couldn't be bothered to get some real sounds, or real actors to present it. But at least 3 people on the fifth floor have an IQ of 150, so you have to wonder what peverse reverse logic is operating. "If we deliberately use guys from or dev team who, *just like you* are not musicians, and show that songsmith can drag them kicking and screaming into a song, it will be more "real" as a demo". Or something.
B. That activity is not a sport. It's Entertainment.
Read Mick Foley's books. The *outcomes* are scripted, but the moves have to be executed, and it takes *more* skill to perform some of them without actually killing your show partner. When they goof is when it all goes wrong and we see what those moves would look like in a street fight.
So, grinding back on topic, we need to borrow the back end and re-hook it with our own storehouse of front end music. I have no idea why MS thought they were restricted to a MIDI sounding sound library. All they need do is get some 5 of the thousands of starving B- musicians who could use a month's work, and make a sound library of real instruments.
Erase the bottom of the Z with whiteout.
7une.