Yeah, there is a cadre of next generation shill flamebaiters recently. I was going to add that besides Pro MS, Anti Google/Apple, they also seem to be taking the far right wing side of Gov issues.
Then on a quasi related theme, Goatse is back in version 2.0. The copy of choice used to be the French one, now it's the Russian one, except this new troll posts almost readable comments and uses at least four different links.
Very rough guess is that these new guys derail a thread worse than the Frosty Piss posts.
I'll echo the reply below with the further theme that most of your points feel like the typical accumulation of time passing software by, and I'm under no delusion that XP is the cat's meow. However, for me, the upgrade process is driven by the killer app effect.
"Soonish" I will update, and then all your fair points come for the ride, but my goal is to upgrade at the correct tech tipping point to avoid the Facepalm "I upgraded one year too early". Currently my sights are set on a serious look at Windows 8 due in two years.
I feel this is a bigger issue than might seem at first glance.
We have a powerful plateau situation in desktop tech. Cite "The Economy", social changes and more; the first two generations of former active experimenters are starting to become satiated now that modestly significant progress has been made. If you merge all the disparate threads of "we can't figure out the next quantum leap in OS", the Age of Good Enough, and the hidden walled up cost of moving Enterprise off of XP, for Microsoft to start to pit a browser as a hardware-based deliberate fragmentation will cause a pressure-cooker situation of a type that will simmer slowly until some further factor sets it off.
Let's coin a word: "Rhetorical Luddite". I thought ahead and built a custom quad core XP machine in 2006 that is still middle of the line now. Now it's MS's job to "prove" why XP absolutely must go to make way for the upgrade they'd like me to make. To do that, I currently guess it would take another Killer App of some kind. These little deliberate fragmentations instead are irritating.
My approximate current plan is that Windows 8 in 2013 will be the switch point, if at the same time both a hardware and application super-breakthrough shows up.
You can't knock out any one party - it's that bit where if you split the voter bloc of one, the other wins First Past Post.
It is actually possible to knock out both, but we need a national level Social Network Vote Coordination Site to do it. If we can protect it from major sources of inaccuracy, we could do it by the 2016 election to have the Internet Candidate win by write-in. To repeat, if we had a properly secured social site where the entire country announces their intended votes, changing now and then as info surfaces, the big DC politics engine would crumble if they didn't resort to dirty tricks. The results would be: "Republicans, 22% - Democrats 22% - Internet Party 56% FTW and the Lulz".
But it's a big if, because the two big parties have Distraction Odds - they win if we remain too confused to organize it.
Robert Van Winkle, we need your permission to link to your Ice Ice Baby video!
New twist - what if we all put CC licenses on our stuff? Setting aside the moderate complexities of them, then linking wouldn't be illegal would it?
Bonus: what about Pointilism Linking? Officer: "You linked to the copyrighted article." Webmaster: "No, that first link goes to a webpage containing a public domain copy of the letter F. The next link goes to a public domain copy of the letter U."
Then webpages would consist of scripts that are also released to the public, which assemble documents letter by letter.
Well, even classical music takes seven chords to wind down.
If the entire US went black instantly, the we'd take the rest of the web with us because no one else is yet ready to be the new hub of the web to entirely replace 15 years of US Web legacy overnight. It would be funny, really - instant national solidarity "to obey the law". Asia, then Europe is ahead of USA on the time zones - if we did a total blackout at about 9PM on a Sunday, the freakout would be felt around the world.
Bonus to someone's question: Bureau of WTF: Web, Trademarks and FUD.
Notice that the summary talks about "linking to videos". However, as we now know, both words and pics of any kind are copyrighted from the moment someone creates them. Reply with Quote? Look! It's a copy! Hotlinking pics? Linking!
For the third time I'll float my "subset" theory. They started small with "SomeGuy" (subset of everyone) and "SomeCategory" (videos, subset of all copyrighted items). This has the effect of keeping people looking at trees and not forests, and posts which deal with the grand plan get downmodded.
Linking to copyrighted works? If they can convince the Supreme Court to let this stick, there's the Ice Cannon they want to use againt the entire web. We're beyond copies now. If you can't link to anyone at all, ever, (because it's not you, and all items are copyrighted instantly), then forget Net Neutrality, that is the end of the net.
Neat post - I'm only a low-grade prophet - not good enough to start my own religion. More like "gee, I knew someone one who said something... ooh look, a new episode of Secrets Of Our Lives is on!" I didn't see Facebook coming either even though we knew MySpace was dead.
I can't see ahead to the Next Big Thing that people like/Like. Anyone really think they know what the Next Big Thing after Facebook is?
(Bitter) When a judge, then an appellate judge, then a supreme judge waves their hands, it becomes true. If the sophistry is upheld, that also becomes true. Or maybe only Truthy. (/Bitter)
Wow, you found another one - someone groups trying to re-write the language to over-broaden existing words so that actions can be punished more. It's the newer version of the copyright infringement-stolen one, except there's no copyright on govt info (yet!), so now we're seeing "leak to 1 person = not a leak; it's only a leak when it hits Public Media."
Newspapers have been doing the Leaked Sensitive Info game for decades, so only now they're trying to go after the new crew on the block!?
This is a key part that keeps getting passed over in all this mess - "Let's get a court order to request info that won't do anything at all... er... well since none of the 5 edge cases of ip's apply to you, it's you!"
Also, we started our grand adventure on the net expecting all the backend stuff to stay private / discarded. Now this is playing out like a reality show.
When the other business model fails, the company will sell its profiles and its 4 members will disperse into 4 new organizations.
Crazy random example. I went to NBC because because of ratings they cut the series of The Cape from 13 to 9+ an online finale. The trackers of that base NBC site (per Ghostery) are: AddThis BlueKai Comscore Beacon DoubleClick DoubleClick Floodlight Facebook Connect Krux Digital Mindset Media Omniture Quanticast Revenue Science Rubicon
Paul Thurrott's site as a totally different list that I don't have at this second.
Etc Etc.
Do you really think 25 companies will keep their databases safe forever? Or will they build it for 20 months and then sell it?
This time it's a list of legal but less than popular snips of data we can attach to a person's profile!
Then one of a couple of options results: A. Pwned security breach and it hits the wild B. Given to agencies to threaten people with if they get out of line.
Actually, what if we separated the two? I'll go on a limb and say it's not all that impossible to run a library *if* the budget was sensible.
I'd peg this as an oblique kind of poke at how a famous few types of sacrificial lamb depts are always paraded as "times are tough" in the same paragraph that we need to get a license to live.
I'd love to see a library with untouchable private backing that the Gov can't mess with, and then it really would be a freedom center.
Moron Politician: "We need a new stealth plane. Times are tough. Let's cut the libraries." BlackOp Library: "We need cash flow. I think I'll call the US Treasury and call in a 1$billion in illegally defaulted bonds that you didn't tell the public about."
It's a figurative / allegorical comment about the unexpected synergies of individual parts. I'm a YRO guy getting nervous because colectively, the different countries are debuting the components of a total "Blue Deck" lock down of our rights. It's like telling a Blue player he can't have any particular piece - he'll go "okay, so you can ban Timetwister. I'll make my super-combo out of something else".
To see the analogies, start with this latest craze over the Sony key. This is the *second* time little numbers are magically becoming "illegal".
13,256,278,887,989,50 plus a number of zeros equal to the number of cards in the Tarot Major Arcana.
Hey now, I can't even make a CCG deck out of the pieces of YRO, because Wizards patented it!
(ChildLeftBehind)
Isn't that a type of cheeseburger? Or a town in Germany?
(/ChildLeftBehind)
So if you drop Think of the Children and 2 Click Felony into a big shiny casing, will the paradox power a car's engine?
Yeah, there is a cadre of next generation shill flamebaiters recently. I was going to add that besides Pro MS, Anti Google/Apple, they also seem to be taking the far right wing side of Gov issues.
Then on a quasi related theme, Goatse is back in version 2.0. The copy of choice used to be the French one, now it's the Russian one, except this new troll posts almost readable comments and uses at least four different links.
Very rough guess is that these new guys derail a thread worse than the Frosty Piss posts.
Great effort in your post.
I'll echo the reply below with the further theme that most of your points feel like the typical accumulation of time passing software by, and I'm under no delusion that XP is the cat's meow. However, for me, the upgrade process is driven by the killer app effect.
"Soonish" I will update, and then all your fair points come for the ride, but my goal is to upgrade at the correct tech tipping point to avoid the Facepalm "I upgraded one year too early". Currently my sights are set on a serious look at Windows 8 due in two years.
I feel this is a bigger issue than might seem at first glance.
We have a powerful plateau situation in desktop tech. Cite "The Economy", social changes and more; the first two generations of former active experimenters are starting to become satiated now that modestly significant progress has been made. If you merge all the disparate threads of "we can't figure out the next quantum leap in OS", the Age of Good Enough, and the hidden walled up cost of moving Enterprise off of XP, for Microsoft to start to pit a browser as a hardware-based deliberate fragmentation will cause a pressure-cooker situation of a type that will simmer slowly until some further factor sets it off.
Let's coin a word: "Rhetorical Luddite". I thought ahead and built a custom quad core XP machine in 2006 that is still middle of the line now. Now it's MS's job to "prove" why XP absolutely must go to make way for the upgrade they'd like me to make. To do that, I currently guess it would take another Killer App of some kind. These little deliberate fragmentations instead are irritating.
My approximate current plan is that Windows 8 in 2013 will be the switch point, if at the same time both a hardware and application super-breakthrough shows up.
Let's stay right within the law -
Watch what will happen when a judge gets tagged after going to a party out of town!
"Oh no! That's facilitating the embarassment of a Respected Member of the Governmental Aparatus! Violation of Security!"
Yes of course, how silly of me to think I could innovate around corruption.
You can't knock out any one party - it's that bit where if you split the voter bloc of one, the other wins First Past Post.
It is actually possible to knock out both, but we need a national level Social Network Vote Coordination Site to do it. If we can protect it from major sources of inaccuracy, we could do it by the 2016 election to have the Internet Candidate win by write-in. To repeat, if we had a properly secured social site where the entire country announces their intended votes, changing now and then as info surfaces, the big DC politics engine would crumble if they didn't resort to dirty tricks. The results would be: "Republicans, 22% - Democrats 22% - Internet Party 56% FTW and the Lulz".
But it's a big if, because the two big parties have Distraction Odds - they win if we remain too confused to organize it.
Robert Van Winkle, we need your permission to link to your Ice Ice Baby video!
New twist - what if we all put CC licenses on our stuff? Setting aside the moderate complexities of them, then linking wouldn't be illegal would it?
Bonus: what about Pointilism Linking?
Officer: "You linked to the copyrighted article."
Webmaster: "No, that first link goes to a webpage containing a public domain copy of the letter F. The next link goes to a public domain copy of the letter U."
Then webpages would consist of scripts that are also released to the public, which assemble documents letter by letter.
Well, even classical music takes seven chords to wind down.
If the entire US went black instantly, the we'd take the rest of the web with us because no one else is yet ready to be the new hub of the web to entirely replace 15 years of US Web legacy overnight. It would be funny, really - instant national solidarity "to obey the law". Asia, then Europe is ahead of USA on the time zones - if we did a total blackout at about 9PM on a Sunday, the freakout would be felt around the world.
Bonus to someone's question: Bureau of WTF: Web, Trademarks and FUD.
This is it folks.
Notice that the summary talks about "linking to videos". However, as we now know, both words and pics of any kind are copyrighted from the moment someone creates them. Reply with Quote? Look! It's a copy! Hotlinking pics? Linking!
For the third time I'll float my "subset" theory. They started small with "SomeGuy" (subset of everyone) and "SomeCategory" (videos, subset of all copyrighted items). This has the effect of keeping people looking at trees and not forests, and posts which deal with the grand plan get downmodded.
Linking to copyrighted works? If they can convince the Supreme Court to let this stick, there's the Ice Cannon they want to use againt the entire web. We're beyond copies now. If you can't link to anyone at all, ever, (because it's not you, and all items are copyrighted instantly), then forget Net Neutrality, that is the end of the net.
Neat post -
I'm only a low-grade prophet - not good enough to start my own religion. More like "gee, I knew someone one who said something... ooh look, a new episode of Secrets Of Our Lives is on!" I didn't see Facebook coming either even though we knew MySpace was dead.
I can't see ahead to the Next Big Thing that people like/Like. Anyone really think they know what the Next Big Thing after Facebook is?
(Bitter)
When a judge, then an appellate judge, then a supreme judge waves their hands, it becomes true.
If the sophistry is upheld, that also becomes true.
Or maybe only Truthy.
(/Bitter)
Wow, you found another one - someone groups trying to re-write the language to over-broaden existing words so that actions can be punished more. It's the newer version of the copyright infringement-stolen one, except there's no copyright on govt info (yet!), so now we're seeing "leak to 1 person = not a leak; it's only a leak when it hits Public Media."
Newspapers have been doing the Leaked Sensitive Info game for decades, so only now they're trying to go after the new crew on the block!?
Instructive thread sir!
This is a key part that keeps getting passed over in all this mess - "Let's get a court order to request info that won't do anything at all ... er... well since none of the 5 edge cases of ip's apply to you, it's you!"
Also, we started our grand adventure on the net expecting all the backend stuff to stay private / discarded. Now this is playing out like a reality show.
For the legions of XP users, it's FF4 and IE8.
And for a real benchmark, gmail with lots of labs going is pretty brutal on scripts.
Dead Wrong.
When the other business model fails, the company will sell its profiles and its 4 members will disperse into 4 new organizations.
Crazy random example. I went to NBC because because of ratings they cut the series of The Cape from 13 to 9+ an online finale. The trackers of that base NBC site (per Ghostery) are:
AddThis
BlueKai
Comscore Beacon
DoubleClick
DoubleClick Floodlight
Facebook Connect
Krux Digital
Mindset Media
Omniture
Quanticast
Revenue Science
Rubicon
Paul Thurrott's site as a totally different list that I don't have at this second.
Etc Etc.
Do you really think 25 companies will keep their databases safe forever? Or will they build it for 20 months and then sell it?
Sure they can use it, they just have to license it from Microsoft.
Oh this is nice.
This time it's a list of legal but less than popular snips of data we can attach to a person's profile!
Then one of a couple of options results:
A. Pwned security breach and it hits the wild
B. Given to agencies to threaten people with if they get out of line.
Actually, what if we separated the two? I'll go on a limb and say it's not all that impossible to run a library *if* the budget was sensible.
I'd peg this as an oblique kind of poke at how a famous few types of sacrificial lamb depts are always paraded as "times are tough" in the same paragraph that we need to get a license to live.
I'd love to see a library with untouchable private backing that the Gov can't mess with, and then it really would be a freedom center.
Moron Politician: "We need a new stealth plane. Times are tough. Let's cut the libraries."
BlackOp Library: "We need cash flow. I think I'll call the US Treasury and call in a 1$billion in illegally defaulted bonds that you didn't tell the public about."
Sorry, I think you got whooshed!
Investigate View-Toolbars-Uncheck Tabs on top.
Do you have to click yes to all 12 trackers to "authorize the page to load"?
"Sorry, you didn't agree to all 12 trackers, so therefore we can't afford to give you the page."
You mean Goatse is social commentary?!
Okay, so I missed twice in a row.
It's a figurative / allegorical comment about the unexpected synergies of individual parts. I'm a YRO guy getting nervous because colectively, the different countries are debuting the components of a total "Blue Deck" lock down of our rights. It's like telling a Blue player he can't have any particular piece - he'll go "okay, so you can ban Timetwister. I'll make my super-combo out of something else".
To see the analogies, start with this latest craze over the Sony key. This is the *second* time little numbers are magically becoming "illegal".
13,256,278,887,989,50 plus a number of zeros equal to the number of cards in the Tarot Major Arcana.
Hey now, I can't even make a CCG deck out of the pieces of YRO, because Wizards patented it!