Some of the best people I've known would be categorised as 'chavs' based on their physical appearance (which is how people are classified as such). Essentially, you and the rest of the chattering classes consider people who dress and speak differently from them as 'scum' and are willing to vote for politicians who want to use the police to lean on them despite them not having committed a crime.
The poor do more honest work than the rich, and always have done. Those who don't work have almost no chance of getting back into work and the few jobs available to them are so horridly well paid it usually isn't worth giving up 40 hours a week for them (especially if this incurs childcare costs).
You are an ignorant, suck up, mothers-basement-dwelling retard who is willing to write off mostly decent human beings just so you get the warm fuzzies about being 'better' than someone.
Social workers are leaving like rats from a sinking ship. Social care offices are horridly understaffed and what staff there are, are underskilled. The political culture since 1979 places a very low priority on any kind of social services, because everyone is assumed to be the sole architect of their own circumstances. This has led to the collapse of social mobility in this country, continuous under both Tory and Labour governments. It has also led to the systematic demonisation of the working class, an increased sense of alienation which would require more social services at the same time social services are being deliberately gutted in a conscious attempt to turn social democracy into social darwinism.
Public spaces should feel safe, welcoming and vibrant, and shopping areas and parades, city centres, parks and green spaces should be free from intimidation, harassment and anti-social behaviour.
It is vital that we reclaim our streets for our communities. Begging - one of the most visible signs of a problem street culture - anti-social street drinking or prostitution can hold back the economic and social life of a community, as well as being intimidating and threatening to people. For example, 65% of the public resents being approached by people begging and 54% will not use a cash point if someone is begging near it; over a third of the public have cited teenagers hanging around in the street as being a problem in their area.
In other words, the same miserable selfish fuckers who created a massive and expanding underclass in this country ought to be able to go to a shopping centre without seeing the consequences of all those spending cuts they loudly demanded so they could upgrade their cars earlier or have a slightly longer holiday.
Begging is seen, to this government, as purely a nuisance to businesses and middle class shoppers. They don't see a beggar and think 'This person should not be so desperate' they look at a beggar and think 'This person is affecting the value of commercial and residential real estate in this area'
Ah yes, the 'respect' agenda. Jowly, sulking old men mutter that the 'youth' of today have no 'respect' for their elders. Ignoring the obvious question of 'what have you ever done to deserve respect?', they then go on a complete non sequitur and blame all social ills such as drugs, violence, prostitution etc. on the fact that young people today don't observe middle class baby boomer behavioral norms. From here, its a small leap to "imprison people for swearing because its only a matter of time before they murder someone"
A family 'failing to do its job' is by their definition a family that doesn't comply with middle-class behavioral norms. What if your child says something at school deemed a bit too radical (such as 'Blair should be hanged in accordance with the Nuremberg laws' or 'armed revolution is the only thing that can save us now') they may decide you are not a proper parent and give themselves a pretext to place you under constant surveilance. Of course, if they catch any moderately subversive activity whilst they are checking your kids go to bed at the right time, you have only yourself to blame...
"Problem family" is a euphemism for "Working class". The current Labour leadership hail from the middle class, and are mainly there to forward middle class interests (communicated to them through focus groups). Part of this is enforcing middle-class behavioral norms on everybody in the population. Or else.
And do what? Elect the fucking tories? Some people have very short memories. There are, however, some people in the country who still remember the massively heavy handed response to the miners strike, the use of the SAS as an execution squad on multiple occasions, just to name two things. Understand that UK government policy has been entirely consistent since 1979. If you look at graphs of poverty levels, or declining earnings of people with low incomes, or the GINI coefficient, the election of Labour in 1997 doesn't even show up. Its a smooth decline all the way.
For the millionth time, file sharing is not stealing. Shouting the same lie from your noise hole over and over again will never make it true.
Content creators are not owed a living. The quality of the vast majority of content is low, and the price is too high. However, content creators have got it into their heads they deserve massive remuneration for very little, low quality, work. They are trying to have the government use force to squeeze money out of consumers, in a manner little different from racketeering.
They will lose, if only because the two sides of this debate are divided by age, with the young respecting the freedom of information flow, and the old desperate to hang onto the economic privileges they lose.
What they say it is about is always, always irrelevant. With certain people in minor positions of power, anything that amounts to the word 'no' is a high crime and they will use every means at their disposal to crush you. Fortunately, such people often have less power than they believe they do. The world is, sadly, full of such small people.
Its somebody who gets paid to play WoW all day, on the taxpayers money, and all they have to do is toss some dumb kid to a SWAT team every now and then to justify their existence.
If the UK intelligence agencies require someone in a similar role over here, I am going to apply. Level 80 counterterrorist LFG!
Yes, because the best approach to rational government is to make all decisions from the perspective of people who are personally, emotionally compromised in their judgment. Fucking retard.
Sorry, got to pick you up on this. The 'fire in a crowded theatre' thing is bullshit for three reasons:
1. It was from a ruling against people distributing anti-draft literature in the first world war. A blatant violation of free speech
2. It was overturned just a few years later
3. It doesn't make sense anyway. Honestly, try yelling fire in a crowded theatre, I garuntee the worst that will happen is people chuck bits of their refreshments at you. It isn't the responsibility of a person not to yell 'fire', its the responsibility of all citizens not to panic and trample people to death at the first anonymous, unsubstantiated, cry of danger.
Even aside from you citing one of the biggest chucks of popular bullshit since 'theres no smoke without fire', why can't the kid test the bounds of liberty? He is more of a citizen than you are.
Kids talk shit. It isn't something that should be punished with armed police raids and summary execution, outside the senile mind of some old codger who just can't get them off his damn lawn.
Not at all a ridiculous strategy. Think of it as a Denial-Of-Counterterrorism attack; throw up some much 'chatter' and false leads at the time you want to attack. I don't know if anyone has tried it yet, but it wouldn't surprise me.
We need sober, thoughtful investigators unraveling terror networks. Not trigger happy knuckleheads jumping on any and every chance to pretend they are Jack fucking Bauer.
Knowing that their government is monitoring motherfucking world of warcraft chat for terrorist activity. I mean, I personally play on Defias Brotherhood (EU) and I'm fairly sure the July 7th bombers didn't plan their attacks in any major alliance cities. Can't speak for the horde of course, its an RPPVP server.
Why do anti-terrorist agencies keep throwing up lonely teenagers with fantasies about blowing things up that they will never carry out? The most obvious explanation is that they are unable to really do anything about terrorism, they know it, and are essentially justifying their budgets.
Other than the fact that we own something like 60% of the station?
Ownership isn't a natural concept, idiot. What will the US do if the other members of the ISS simply choose to keep resupplying and reboosting it? Shoot it down with people inside it? Stop trading with European allies? Get a fucking grip.
Coming from a guy that just makes shit, demonstrates essentially zero understanding of the issue, and throws around asinine accusations based on incomplete facts without bothering to check...
No, I point out facts that people like you dislike, and you get all pissy about it. Grow up arsehole.
I'm not even sure that NASA has the power to make that decision.
The ISS will fall out of orbit without a boost every so often, and can be deliberately de-orbitted with a boost in the other direction. Thing is, NASA isn't going to be boosting the station in 2016. It will be boosted by Russian Progress and European ATV spacecraft, and possibly by other supply craft from other partners or (maybe) private corporations.
What gives NASA (or more accurately, commentators on NASA) the impression, that with the shuttle retired and Orion only just getting going, they are going to have any real ability to dictate the fate of the ISS? Do Americans just assume they own and control everything without checking?
War is welfare for military contractors. Nation building is welfare for whatever corporations scratch the leaders back. Capitalism is, to paraphrase Noam Chomsky, welfare for the uber-rich.
Judging by your signature, you would want a government that focuses on the latter; spending only on those facilities required to keep the rich, rich. I would rather world governments gave money to the kind of people who sent men to the Moon than to the kind of people who made a killing wrecking the world economy, but perhaps that is me being a pinko liberal European commie socialist or some bullshit like that.
The ISS is a perfectly capable space station. It isn't keeping anybody from Mars; in fact by providing a place to assemble a Mars-bound spaceship, it is helping. Certainly the Ares V, if it ever flies, cannot put up a Mars mission in one shot.
Do not blame a cheap (on the scale of government spending, not NASA spending) project for the fact that space travel is horrifically underfunded. Blame the small-minded penny pinchers demanding a tax cut for the millionaires they are convinced they shall join one day, and the politicians cynically purchasing the votes of the elderly with social spending and the campaign funds of the corporations with acquisitive wars.
I don't think its at all true to suggest that moving the ISS to an inclination the Russians could reach (which,by the way, also got you several modules which were to form part of Mir 2, without which the ISS might never have got off the ground) scuppered plans to use it as a staging area for interplanetary missions. Firstly, the equator of Earth is not in the plane of the ecliptic so is not really any better for departing for the planets, and secondly the amount of delta-v difference is quite small compared to how much you need to leave Earth orbit.
The reason why the ISS hasn't been used as a place to assemble interplanetary manned spacecraft, is that nobody has paid for any interplanetary manned spacecraft. It is not the fault of the ISS, and certainly not the Russians fault, that the US has elected not to use the ISS for this purpose.
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Some of the best people I've known would be categorised as 'chavs' based on their physical appearance (which is how people are classified as such). Essentially, you and the rest of the chattering classes consider people who dress and speak differently from them as 'scum' and are willing to vote for politicians who want to use the police to lean on them despite them not having committed a crime.
The poor do more honest work than the rich, and always have done. Those who don't work have almost no chance of getting back into work and the few jobs available to them are so horridly well paid it usually isn't worth giving up 40 hours a week for them (especially if this incurs childcare costs).
You are an ignorant, suck up, mothers-basement-dwelling retard who is willing to write off mostly decent human beings just so you get the warm fuzzies about being 'better' than someone.
Social workers are leaving like rats from a sinking ship. Social care offices are horridly understaffed and what staff there are, are underskilled. The political culture since 1979 places a very low priority on any kind of social services, because everyone is assumed to be the sole architect of their own circumstances. This has led to the collapse of social mobility in this country, continuous under both Tory and Labour governments. It has also led to the systematic demonisation of the working class, an increased sense of alienation which would require more social services at the same time social services are being deliberately gutted in a conscious attempt to turn social democracy into social darwinism.
The best example from that site:
In other words, the same miserable selfish fuckers who created a massive and expanding underclass in this country ought to be able to go to a shopping centre without seeing the consequences of all those spending cuts they loudly demanded so they could upgrade their cars earlier or have a slightly longer holiday.
Begging is seen, to this government, as purely a nuisance to businesses and middle class shoppers. They don't see a beggar and think 'This person should not be so desperate' they look at a beggar and think 'This person is affecting the value of commercial and residential real estate in this area'
Ah yes, the 'respect' agenda. Jowly, sulking old men mutter that the 'youth' of today have no 'respect' for their elders. Ignoring the obvious question of 'what have you ever done to deserve respect?', they then go on a complete non sequitur and blame all social ills such as drugs, violence, prostitution etc. on the fact that young people today don't observe middle class baby boomer behavioral norms. From here, its a small leap to "imprison people for swearing because its only a matter of time before they murder someone"
A family 'failing to do its job' is by their definition a family that doesn't comply with middle-class behavioral norms. What if your child says something at school deemed a bit too radical (such as 'Blair should be hanged in accordance with the Nuremberg laws' or 'armed revolution is the only thing that can save us now') they may decide you are not a proper parent and give themselves a pretext to place you under constant surveilance. Of course, if they catch any moderately subversive activity whilst they are checking your kids go to bed at the right time, you have only yourself to blame...
"Problem family" is a euphemism for "Working class". The current Labour leadership hail from the middle class, and are mainly there to forward middle class interests (communicated to them through focus groups). Part of this is enforcing middle-class behavioral norms on everybody in the population. Or else.
And do what? Elect the fucking tories? Some people have very short memories. There are, however, some people in the country who still remember the massively heavy handed response to the miners strike, the use of the SAS as an execution squad on multiple occasions, just to name two things. Understand that UK government policy has been entirely consistent since 1979. If you look at graphs of poverty levels, or declining earnings of people with low incomes, or the GINI coefficient, the election of Labour in 1997 doesn't even show up. Its a smooth decline all the way.
I agree. The UK is lost. Where do you suggest I go instead?
Its full of queers, blacks and crime!
Oh, if only Diana were here!
Some people therefore favour the term 'cytherean'
For the millionth time, file sharing is not stealing. Shouting the same lie from your noise hole over and over again will never make it true.
Content creators are not owed a living. The quality of the vast majority of content is low, and the price is too high. However, content creators have got it into their heads they deserve massive remuneration for very little, low quality, work. They are trying to have the government use force to squeeze money out of consumers, in a manner little different from racketeering.
They will lose, if only because the two sides of this debate are divided by age, with the young respecting the freedom of information flow, and the old desperate to hang onto the economic privileges they lose.
What they say it is about is always, always irrelevant. With certain people in minor positions of power, anything that amounts to the word 'no' is a high crime and they will use every means at their disposal to crush you. Fortunately, such people often have less power than they believe they do. The world is, sadly, full of such small people.
Its somebody who gets paid to play WoW all day, on the taxpayers money, and all they have to do is toss some dumb kid to a SWAT team every now and then to justify their existence.
If the UK intelligence agencies require someone in a similar role over here, I am going to apply. Level 80 counterterrorist LFG!
Yes, because the best approach to rational government is to make all decisions from the perspective of people who are personally, emotionally compromised in their judgment. Fucking retard.
Sorry, got to pick you up on this. The 'fire in a crowded theatre' thing is bullshit for three reasons:
1. It was from a ruling against people distributing anti-draft literature in the first world war. A blatant violation of free speech
2. It was overturned just a few years later
3. It doesn't make sense anyway. Honestly, try yelling fire in a crowded theatre, I garuntee the worst that will happen is people chuck bits of their refreshments at you. It isn't the responsibility of a person not to yell 'fire', its the responsibility of all citizens not to panic and trample people to death at the first anonymous, unsubstantiated, cry of danger.
Even aside from you citing one of the biggest chucks of popular bullshit since 'theres no smoke without fire', why can't the kid test the bounds of liberty? He is more of a citizen than you are.
Kids talk shit. It isn't something that should be punished with armed police raids and summary execution, outside the senile mind of some old codger who just can't get them off his damn lawn.
Not at all a ridiculous strategy. Think of it as a Denial-Of-Counterterrorism attack; throw up some much 'chatter' and false leads at the time you want to attack. I don't know if anyone has tried it yet, but it wouldn't surprise me.
We need sober, thoughtful investigators unraveling terror networks. Not trigger happy knuckleheads jumping on any and every chance to pretend they are Jack fucking Bauer.
Knowing that their government is monitoring motherfucking world of warcraft chat for terrorist activity. I mean, I personally play on Defias Brotherhood (EU) and I'm fairly sure the July 7th bombers didn't plan their attacks in any major alliance cities. Can't speak for the horde of course, its an RPPVP server.
Why do anti-terrorist agencies keep throwing up lonely teenagers with fantasies about blowing things up that they will never carry out? The most obvious explanation is that they are unable to really do anything about terrorism, they know it, and are essentially justifying their budgets.
Ownership isn't a natural concept, idiot. What will the US do if the other members of the ISS simply choose to keep resupplying and reboosting it? Shoot it down with people inside it? Stop trading with European allies? Get a fucking grip.
No, I point out facts that people like you dislike, and you get all pissy about it. Grow up arsehole.
Military and nation building in pursuit of capital is by definition capitalism, isn't it? You are a bit of a retard really.
I'm not even sure that NASA has the power to make that decision.
The ISS will fall out of orbit without a boost every so often, and can be deliberately de-orbitted with a boost in the other direction. Thing is, NASA isn't going to be boosting the station in 2016. It will be boosted by Russian Progress and European ATV spacecraft, and possibly by other supply craft from other partners or (maybe) private corporations.
What gives NASA (or more accurately, commentators on NASA) the impression, that with the shuttle retired and Orion only just getting going, they are going to have any real ability to dictate the fate of the ISS? Do Americans just assume they own and control everything without checking?
Basically its a Bond villain strategy: give us money or we begin orbital bombardment.
War is welfare for military contractors. Nation building is welfare for whatever corporations scratch the leaders back. Capitalism is, to paraphrase Noam Chomsky, welfare for the uber-rich.
Judging by your signature, you would want a government that focuses on the latter; spending only on those facilities required to keep the rich, rich. I would rather world governments gave money to the kind of people who sent men to the Moon than to the kind of people who made a killing wrecking the world economy, but perhaps that is me being a pinko liberal European commie socialist or some bullshit like that.
The ISS is a perfectly capable space station. It isn't keeping anybody from Mars; in fact by providing a place to assemble a Mars-bound spaceship, it is helping. Certainly the Ares V, if it ever flies, cannot put up a Mars mission in one shot.
Do not blame a cheap (on the scale of government spending, not NASA spending) project for the fact that space travel is horrifically underfunded. Blame the small-minded penny pinchers demanding a tax cut for the millionaires they are convinced they shall join one day, and the politicians cynically purchasing the votes of the elderly with social spending and the campaign funds of the corporations with acquisitive wars.
I don't think its at all true to suggest that moving the ISS to an inclination the Russians could reach (which,by the way, also got you several modules which were to form part of Mir 2, without which the ISS might never have got off the ground) scuppered plans to use it as a staging area for interplanetary missions. Firstly, the equator of Earth is not in the plane of the ecliptic so is not really any better for departing for the planets, and secondly the amount of delta-v difference is quite small compared to how much you need to leave Earth orbit.
The reason why the ISS hasn't been used as a place to assemble interplanetary manned spacecraft, is that nobody has paid for any interplanetary manned spacecraft. It is not the fault of the ISS, and certainly not the Russians fault, that the US has elected not to use the ISS for this purpose.