Actually... think of how fast we could learn all about IPV6, compile it in every program needed (assuming firewall, proxy, etc... not going to feed potential trolls!) along the chain, document policies, and implement it all - if we didn't spend so much time on slashdot! I suspect that I could get it done in less than a day at home and work, and then settle back to my ~2 LOC/day after having slash back! On a side note, is ~2 SLOC still the average for programmers, or is that an aged figure?
Well, we know who was forced to host Christmas dinner this year... However, it's taboo to invite over the inlaws and shoot them when they arrive. You'll be sleeping on the couch for at least a week. Possibly without the remote.
Twice half the value of every dollar printed; adjusted for 3% inflation and the fact that the dollar is no longer backed by gold... I'd say we're going to be using our currency to start fires in our fireplaces when that becomes cheaper than buying wood to light the same fire.
Of course we're chicken! We've seen what happens to students who 'volunteer'; there's a 1/3 chance the prof. has an antiquated degree, entirely too much pride, little to no accomplishment in the 'real world', and an ax to grind about the latter. Not saying you're one of these guys, but there's a reason we don't raise our hands - these profs. do exist.
Only heroes raise their hands. Heroics don't pay off at midterms. Then again, that's never stopped me from shooting: off my mouth, myself in the foot, my hand into the air. YMMV. It could also be that everyone else is brain dead, which would explain quite a bit...
-- 1 of 2 students who raise their hand to ambush trick questions.
I have yet to find a good snack that I doesn't get my mouse greasy! Do you have any suggestions? Coffee cake is the best I've really found (crumbs aren't too bad).
The problem is that it's socially acceptable; until we, as a western culture, make these actions a social taboo, nothing is going to stop. That, or start killing execs; but I vote for the legal dept. first. That way we can all get away with it for lack of representation at the trial. Just my $0.02.
*Sigh* You beat me to the punch; every time I hear of something like this, my first reaction is, "I wonder where they got their MBA?" Seriously, I don't think the problem is with the degree itself, the *$%#@ing problem is with the kind of people that find the idea of being in charge and making money (even if it means selling out their own mothers) easy without having to do much more than stumble in to a classroom for two years.
And if they're not incompetent, that, more often than not, means they're very adept criminals. I honestly try to assume the best about people, I really do, but I really can't find anything about MBAs that I find tolerable. They're quite literally ruining the world and profiting from it.
Yes, but just think of all those great-sounding legal ringtones playing over a $0.10 paper cone cell phone speaker, surely the burned "pirate" mix cd playing on my stereo system doesn't sound half as good because everyone knows that "pirated" music sounds atrocious...yeah right. I assumed that atrocious was referring to the quality of the music, not the system on which it was played. My sincere and humble apology to anyone pirating anything by Michael Bolton; atrocious still applies regardless of legal status. Doubly so for pirated Michael Bolton Ringtones.
Seriously, do you sub 10K ids have an IRC channel where they announce when and where an id war is going on? It's like someone starts a thread on ids and you guys have responded before the poster has even hit submit! I think everyone under 10K has a Chuck Norris complex or som(*&@*^... *Connection Reset By Peer*
*Sigh* That was really funny until I realized you're probably not joking... I think there are some large enterprises where IE 6 is still the standard for corp. images until they can say that IE 7 is no longer too bleeding edge. I hope I'm wrong about that, but bureaucracy is intentionally a slow process.
yeah, more excuses. you're not going to do anything but make yourself feel that you're against the forces of evil. someday you'll wake up and wonder what you wasted your time fighting when you realize that good computing practices are worth more than even the best oss and it doesn't piss off the customer. I am the customer; and that OSS software is the only way I can get the product Microsoft has so badly screwed up to work after it blows itself up. So, Microsoft has ticked off me, the customer. Who said anything about fight evil? I want the best tools, I don't care who creates them, so long as I can use and modify them with as little hassle as possible.
So far as IDEs go, Microsoft has the best. I've got 4 or 5 Visual Studios and Expression Studio - Granted, Microsoft screwed up the install disk on Visual Studio 2005 Standard and you have to do an xcopy from a copy of the cd on harddrive to another place on the harddrive.They screwed up the volume label on the cd. After trying to get support from their forum who insisted I call them, who insisted I take the CD back to the college, who had to get get a new CD. Of course, the new CD has the same error. Then you find out that the install MUST be installed over top of the express edition. You can't change the path. You can't have both installed at the same time.
So far as everything else goes, my toolbox doesn't contain many Microsoft products. Not because I'm fighting evil, I'm trying to get my job done with as little hassle as possible.
Now, what are these good computing practices you're speaking of? You have left absolutely no context clues as to what you're talking about.
Now if they had switched to/from Windows, then it'd be big news
Why? Because you have a bug up your ass about MS?
When is the nancy boy Linux crowd worry about improving their offering instead of the evil Microsoft? This isn't about computing, it's about being the biggest kid on the block.[...] Well, you're either a troll or a shill, but I'll toss you a bone either way.
The 'nancy boy' Linux crowd will worry about improving our offering when my cd case at work, for fixing Windows desktops with a blown up registry, is full of Microsoft live cds that I can respin and burn at my will.
Is it happening? Yeah! Is it probably not good? Yeah! Do we even know enough to be crying end of the world? No!
Will we ever know enough before it's too late? Probably not! Can we do some good things now to give us more time to learn what's going on? Not if everyone has your attitude...
If you continue to analyze until you completely understand everything, the time for effective action is probably long past.
And you propose we do, what... considering we don't know enough to take action. We could affirmatively decide to take inaction, although if we do that, we've taken an action thereby eliminating our objective of inaction. On the other hand, we could pass some laws and crack down on the industrial revolutions of third world countries all the while knowing that we don't know enough to make a responsible decision.
Reading back over this, it really sounds like a flame; it isn't, I just don't understand what you're thinking when you say that we don't know enough to do something, but we must do something if we are to solve a problem we don't understand. Could you elaborate or rephrase your thoughts on this?
*For the record, if it matters, I'm really not for one side or the other in this climate debate. Neither side has adequately convinced me they aren't either zealots or 'on the take'; I'll not hold strong opinions about things I don't understand*
Ray, tell us this one isn't as bad as it looks, man! This surely won't be enacted, right? Right?! It's bravado or something? Please tell me this isn't as bad as it looks. And that's coming from a guy who has a Java final in an hour...
As a software development major and intern admin/developer, I can say that I've used about ~100 GB ( big B == Bytes;) ) since this summer solely using bittorrent for Linux ISOs since this summer.
Haha, I got a pic of a mini fridge I had between my two desks just like this (It was literally completely full with Rockstar, RedBull, and Mountain Dew (Code Red and regular), and a Sobe Adrenaline rush here and there - I think it cost about $60 to stock); although, I have to admit, I am a little jealous. I'm guessing the soy milk is from the guys in marketing or something? Friggin' hippies.
Did you get this idea from that guy at MIT (can't remember his name) on a google tech talk? If not, google it, it's a really great presentation. The idea is brilliant; it's just implementing it that would be hard. Once it has momentum, I suspect that it'd be The Way Things Are Done.
My apologies, I used all my mod points this morning. After writing Java code for hours,
Furthermore, "This should definitely be legal, it's a great marketing tool and helps my business very well," is not a legitimate justification. It would really help my business if I could hunt down my competitors and kill them, but somehow I doubt that's going to go over very well at the inevitable murder trial.
just about made me fall out of my chair laughing. Well, not quite, but it gave me a bit more will to live (like I said, I've been writing Java for hours). I think that quote gets right down to the heart of the matter; marketers will use anything as justification for breaking the rules. That being said, I'm actually glad I used all my mod points and wasn't faced with the dilemma of trying to decide if your post was funny or insightful.
For the record, if we killed all the lawyers, I think we could all get away with it; we'd be found innocent when not a single prosecuting attorney could be located (if we missed one he wouldn't point it out!), and we'd be brought to trial without appropriate defense... Let your competitors live, we'll get the lawyers (NewYorkCountyLawyer is a notable exception).
As a former manager of a fast food joint (it was good money for a high school student), I've seen a good number of managers who pull this crap. They're all talk. And they take themselves seriously. If you're ever in a situation like this again, push the envelope. If he says he's going to call the cops, and then doesn't, pick up the phone and call. Ask them to come down, as there is an issue that needs to be resolved. If they threaten to take it up to the store manager, suggest they call the regional manager and ask someone to get you the number (actually calling is a matter of politics that cannot be covered in a short message - but they won't let you anyways, so it's a moot point).
If you're going to lose your job anyways over something you didn't do, take the time to put a black mark on their record as well. If you don't get fired (as you've put them in a place where all eyes are looking to see if they do the right thing), it's the last time anyone will accuse you of anything you didn't do. Ever.
These type of people are bullies, and they get away with whatever they want until someone calls their bluff and one-ups them. They always pull you aside since they have no authority in a group; the more public you make the whole ordeal, the less power they have. Even if it's a crap job, the experience will pay off later down the road.
1a) The Slackware fans will make their own paper from tree seeds. As a Slacker (since 10.2 release, give or take a week), I can assure you that we don't use just any tree seeds. We only use vanilla seeds, and they Just Work!
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Actually... think of how fast we could learn all about IPV6, compile it in every program needed (assuming firewall, proxy, etc... not going to feed potential trolls!) along the chain, document policies, and implement it all - if we didn't spend so much time on slashdot! I suspect that I could get it done in less than a day at home and work, and then settle back to my ~2 LOC/day after having slash back! On a side note, is ~2 SLOC still the average for programmers, or is that an aged figure?
Well, we know who was forced to host Christmas dinner this year... However, it's taboo to invite over the inlaws and shoot them when they arrive. You'll be sleeping on the couch for at least a week. Possibly without the remote.
Twice half the value of every dollar printed; adjusted for 3% inflation and the fact that the dollar is no longer backed by gold... I'd say we're going to be using our currency to start fires in our fireplaces when that becomes cheaper than buying wood to light the same fire.
Those were put in the spec. as a joke, right? Along with the marquee tags, I assume?
Only heroes raise their hands. Heroics don't pay off at midterms. Then again, that's never stopped me from shooting: off my mouth, myself in the foot, my hand into the air. YMMV. It could also be that everyone else is brain dead, which would explain quite a bit... -- 1 of 2 students who raise their hand to ambush trick questions.
I have yet to find a good snack that I doesn't get my mouse greasy! Do you have any suggestions? Coffee cake is the best I've really found (crumbs aren't too bad).
The problem is that it's socially acceptable; until we, as a western culture, make these actions a social taboo, nothing is going to stop. That, or start killing execs; but I vote for the legal dept. first. That way we can all get away with it for lack of representation at the trial. Just my $0.02.
And if they're not incompetent, that, more often than not, means they're very adept criminals. I honestly try to assume the best about people, I really do, but I really can't find anything about MBAs that I find tolerable. They're quite literally ruining the world and profiting from it.
Or you'd owe me a new keyboard!
Seriously, do you sub 10K ids have an IRC channel where they announce when and where an id war is going on? It's like someone starts a thread on ids and you guys have responded before the poster has even hit submit! I think everyone under 10K has a Chuck Norris complex or som(*&@*^... *Connection Reset By Peer*
*Sigh* That was really funny until I realized you're probably not joking... I think there are some large enterprises where IE 6 is still the standard for corp. images until they can say that IE 7 is no longer too bleeding edge. I hope I'm wrong about that, but bureaucracy is intentionally a slow process.
So far as IDEs go, Microsoft has the best. I've got 4 or 5 Visual Studios and Expression Studio - Granted, Microsoft screwed up the install disk on Visual Studio 2005 Standard and you have to do an xcopy from a copy of the cd on harddrive to another place on the harddrive.They screwed up the volume label on the cd. After trying to get support from their forum who insisted I call them, who insisted I take the CD back to the college, who had to get get a new CD. Of course, the new CD has the same error. Then you find out that the install MUST be installed over top of the express edition. You can't change the path. You can't have both installed at the same time.
So far as everything else goes, my toolbox doesn't contain many Microsoft products. Not because I'm fighting evil, I'm trying to get my job done with as little hassle as possible.
Now, what are these good computing practices you're speaking of? You have left absolutely no context clues as to what you're talking about.
Why? Because you have a bug up your ass about MS?
When is the nancy boy Linux crowd worry about improving their offering instead of the evil Microsoft? This isn't about computing, it's about being the biggest kid on the block.[...] Well, you're either a troll or a shill, but I'll toss you a bone either way.
The 'nancy boy' Linux crowd will worry about improving our offering when my cd case at work, for fixing Windows desktops with a blown up registry, is full of Microsoft live cds that I can respin and burn at my will.
*Sound of nuclear attack siren in background*
Will we ever know enough before it's too late? Probably not! Can we do some good things now to give us more time to learn what's going on? Not if everyone has your attitude...
If you continue to analyze until you completely understand everything, the time for effective action is probably long past.
And you propose we do, what... considering we don't know enough to take action. We could affirmatively decide to take inaction, although if we do that, we've taken an action thereby eliminating our objective of inaction. On the other hand, we could pass some laws and crack down on the industrial revolutions of third world countries all the while knowing that we don't know enough to make a responsible decision.
Reading back over this, it really sounds like a flame; it isn't, I just don't understand what you're thinking when you say that we don't know enough to do something, but we must do something if we are to solve a problem we don't understand. Could you elaborate or rephrase your thoughts on this?
*For the record, if it matters, I'm really not for one side or the other in this climate debate. Neither side has adequately convinced me they aren't either zealots or 'on the take'; I'll not hold strong opinions about things I don't understand*
Ray, tell us this one isn't as bad as it looks, man! This surely won't be enacted, right? Right?! It's bravado or something? Please tell me this isn't as bad as it looks. And that's coming from a guy who has a Java final in an hour...
As a software development major and intern admin/developer, I can say that I've used about ~100 GB ( big B == Bytes ;) ) since this summer solely using bittorrent for Linux ISOs since this summer.
Haha, I got a pic of a mini fridge I had between my two desks just like this (It was literally completely full with Rockstar, RedBull, and Mountain Dew (Code Red and regular), and a Sobe Adrenaline rush here and there - I think it cost about $60 to stock); although, I have to admit, I am a little jealous. I'm guessing the soy milk is from the guys in marketing or something? Friggin' hippies.
Can't it be both?
Aren't they the same?Did you get this idea from that guy at MIT (can't remember his name) on a google tech talk? If not, google it, it's a really great presentation. The idea is brilliant; it's just implementing it that would be hard. Once it has momentum, I suspect that it'd be The Way Things Are Done.
For the record, if we killed all the lawyers, I think we could all get away with it; we'd be found innocent when not a single prosecuting attorney could be located (if we missed one he wouldn't point it out!), and we'd be brought to trial without appropriate defense... Let your competitors live, we'll get the lawyers (NewYorkCountyLawyer is a notable exception).
Can't we just use apache like the rest of the civilized world?
If you're going to lose your job anyways over something you didn't do, take the time to put a black mark on their record as well. If you don't get fired (as you've put them in a place where all eyes are looking to see if they do the right thing), it's the last time anyone will accuse you of anything you didn't do. Ever.
These type of people are bullies, and they get away with whatever they want until someone calls their bluff and one-ups them. They always pull you aside since they have no authority in a group; the more public you make the whole ordeal, the less power they have. Even if it's a crap job, the experience will pay off later down the road.