Because explorer and internet explorer are the same, or practically so. And explorer's loaded on startup (it's your shell). Ever started up IE while using LiteStep? yeah. Anyway I believe windows loads things like mshtml.dll at startup, that's integrated. It would be like mozilla loading all of Gecko at startup.
On a related note, see this: http://www.fh-furtwangen.de/~dersch, a set of gpl'd tools for making, among other things, panoramas. The part that relates to this story is PTStereo & PTInterpolate. I got the programs and some example images (pictures of a bmw from different angles), set some control points, and PTInterpolate extracted a 3d model from it, applied the textures from the picture, and rotated the car from one angle to another. It was quite astounding once you see it. I can't really do it justice...if that kind of thing interests you then check it out.
since the site's been down all day, here's a mirror of the program.
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I don't think so. Most of the reviews I've seen that say XP is slower are pased on the Release Candidates. XP sped up a *lot* between the those and the gold release.
I take it you haven't actually used xp....it absolutely killed the performance of my computer. my computer's a 1.4ghz athlon with 640mb of ram, geforce2, everything ata100, all newest drivers installed.
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1) The phony link was/. screwing with my post. The real link is home.mindspring.com/~heliosc/linux_setup.html.
no, it was you not knowing basic html. if you want to link to an external site, you have to prefix your address with http://
don't mod this up, wouldn't want to be accused of being a karma whore....it's just the highlight of the transcript:
MR. GATES: Let me start out, really the reason that you see open source there at all is because we came in and said there should be a platform that's identical with millions and millions of machines, and the bios of that should be open to everybody to use, and all the extensibility should be there. And so it was very predictable that once we had gotten the PC going, and going and gotten hundreds of millions of machines out there, that it had always been sort of free software and the universities would flourish and there would be more of that. We certainly accept free software as part of the software ecosystem. In fact, there's a very virtuous cycle where people do free things, some people find that adequate, sometimes companies will take that work and turn it into commercial products, those companies will hire people, pay taxes. And so you see the free software and the commercial software existing together.
There is a particular approach that breaks the cycle called the GPL that is not worth getting into today, but I don't think there is much awareness about how so-called free software foundations designed that to break that cycle.
Heh. For a kick, try opening this XHTML page [opera.com] in MSIE. Oh, it's a perfectly valid page: heck, it even encourages you to go validate it.
Displays perfectly on Opera, of course. How's it look in Mozilla?
hey that was pretty cool.....I opened it in mozilla, it was a normal page, everything looked fine, lalala...opened up IE6 and pasted in the address...wow. I dunno, it looks like those artifacts you get when you're first starting X (the remnants of your mandrake graphical lilo boot or last X session)...while degaussing the monitor.
I don't know if it matters...but it looked kinda biased the way they were holding the thermometer 6 inches from the pentium 4 and half an inch from the athlons...
I'm kinda disappointed with tech, myself....how do you get into the dorms? a key.
what do they have at UGA? not only do they have a card to swipe, but they also have handprint recognition! every time I'm there I try my hand to see if the handprint system does anything....and I never get through. I made the comment that UGA shouldn't have cooler toys than us...
I don't know about that....but I once ported a script from Perl Tk to Python tkinter (both on Windows), and it leaked memory hardcore. It was just a little window with 2 scrollboxes and a few buttons, I left it running once overnight and the next day it was using something like 80 megs of ram. Not exactly what I'd call stable anyway...
the interesting part about this anygui, and the part that makes me the most skeptical...is that one of their intended targets, along with wxWindows, GTK, mac native, etc...is ncurses. Somehow I just don't believe that they'll be able to write a toolkit so generic so writing a UI that looks fine in GTK looks fine in a console.
I wouldn't be surprised if WinAMP itself is being ported with the aid of winelib.
I wouldn't be surprised either, the linux version of winamp3, especially the UI, reeks of wine (horrible pun intended). While moving the windows around, it has that really slow to update feel that apps running under wine or ported with winelib have.
I think the 2.4.9 kernel has issues with the sb live, (hmm, maybe time to try out.11 with the preemptible patch?), so I may be wrong about this, but winamp's sound quality seemed to be really bad when I was playing with it. I tried the windows version of winamp3 and it sounded ok, though.
Because there's a lot of ways in which winamp is better than xmms. Period. I use winamp at work and xmms at home, and am infuriated at xmms sometimes. however, there is some stuff that xmms does better. one thing which immediately comes to mind is that while streaming with MAES, winamp/always/ puts the filename in the playlist window after playing starts, whereas xmms will let you specifiy fields from the id3v2 tag to put there. This is a good thing though, when streaming songs with only id3v1, because winamp will put the filename and xmms will only have the URL.
That having been said, they both suck when it comes to Ogg, in one way at least. I recently added Ogg support to maes. A Perl script is accessed through winamp/xmms, i.e. "getmp3.pl?id=1000". The perl file then gives the filename and mime type in the header, so if it's an ogg file the given filename will end in.ogg and the mime type is application/x-ogg, or whatever it's supposed to be. However, both players think it's an mp3 and choke trying to decode it.
Both of those having been said, Winamp for linux exits immediately on my machine.
If people put more time into porting open networking protocols TO Windows and making easy installers for Windows, then Windows and other operating systems would be able to interact more cleanly because the protocols didn't have to be reverse engineered.
wonderful point. I've often wondered when somebody was going to write a Free nfs client for windows, preferably one which integrated with the system like windows network shares (map drive letters and whatnot).
I use readysyncgo. it syncs palm and outlook (which syncs with my CE device), has some kind of cell phone support (maybe wap or something, I don't have a cell phone), and for linux use it has online pim/calendar/contact etc viewing/editing. it's a free service, it's handy.
My two gripes with Mandrake are how slowly they release packages
Mandrake is probably one of the fastest releasers of new packages, just go to rpmfind.net. practically anything you search for will have its newest version put out by Mandrake Cooker. or polished linux, whatever that is.
on topic, I would recommend mandrake to any new linux user, I've run slackware, redhat 6.0-7.1, mandrake, progeny (debian), and mandrake has the easiest install and UI of them all, imho. that is, if you have the resources...mandrake does, as people have pointed out, use a lot of resources. I have a laptop I had to install redhat 7.1 on simply because the mandrake install required more ram than it has. redhat did do a good job with pcmcia and suspending scripts and whatnot. my server runs rh6.1, and my client, which has plenty of ram and whatnot runs mandrake 8, simply because I like nice guis (kdm, lilo, kde2), and don't have time to sysadmin all day.
you're getting your rhetorics mixed up...are you the hippy socialist liberal against big companies, or are you a sensible conservative who thinks that spurious lawsuits should be punishable by a harsh beating?
As I understood it when I first read about star wars years ago, yes, one satellite could theoretically handle 50 missiles. As to whether they acheived that goal... I'm sure they can shoot down more than one, though.
How do you expect people to take your retarded and misinformed comments seriously if you can't even spell? Not to mention grammar...I could barely understand what was trying to escape from your driveling liberal lsd "enhanced" mind.
Adobe Illustrator is trademarked. Illustrator isn't. Killustrator is not a trademark violation.
I was moderating, but I mean you people are so stupid. you think just because "Word" isn't trademarked but "Microsoft Word" is, that everything works that way. No! "Illustrator" is a registered trademark of Adobe. Period. Asking KIllustrator to change its name is perfectly acceptable, and much better than a lawsuit, and fine, and ending distribution.
You stupid people that don't check a single fact really piss me off. I wish there was a "Totally Wrong Information" moderator choice.
yeah, my public georgia high school was pretty crappy in the way of computers/computer classes. and ours wasn't the worst, there were schools even deeper in the backwoods, not to mention the ones here in downtown atlanta. I'm a computer science major now, and a majority of my peers actually had programming classes available to them in high school. but don't trash ga too much, the lottery has done wonders for the educational system.
I'm a "QA Engineer" at a windoze only company. I'm not quite sure of the details, but we just converted a lot of our stuff to unicode to handle multiple languages. one of my last assignments was testing our software on japanese nt with japanese oracle, japanese sql server, etc etc. what a nightmare.
oh yeah, it's not in-house, this is our release stuff.
Because explorer and internet explorer are the same, or practically so. And explorer's loaded on startup (it's your shell). Ever started up IE while using LiteStep? yeah. Anyway I believe windows loads things like mshtml.dll at startup, that's integrated. It would be like mozilla loading all of Gecko at startup.
On a related note, see this: http://www.fh-furtwangen.de/~dersch, a set of gpl'd tools for making, among other things, panoramas. The part that relates to this story is PTStereo & PTInterpolate. I got the programs and some example images (pictures of a bmw from different angles), set some control points, and PTInterpolate extracted a 3d model from it, applied the textures from the picture, and rotated the car from one angle to another. It was quite astounding once you see it. I can't really do it justice...if that kind of thing interests you then check it out.
since the site's been down all day, here's a mirror of the program.
I take it you haven't actually used xp....it absolutely killed the performance of my computer. my computer's a 1.4ghz athlon with 640mb of ram, geforce2, everything ata100, all newest drivers installed.
no, it was you not knowing basic html. if you want to link to an external site, you have to prefix your address with http://
MR. GATES: Let me start out, really the reason that you see open source there at all is because we came in and said there should be a platform that's identical with millions and millions of machines, and the bios of that should be open to everybody to use, and all the extensibility should be there. And so it was very predictable that once we had gotten the PC going, and going and gotten hundreds of millions of machines out there, that it had always been sort of free software and the universities would flourish and there would be more of that. We certainly accept free software as part of the software ecosystem. In fact, there's a very virtuous cycle where people do free things, some people find that adequate, sometimes companies will take that work and turn it into commercial products, those companies will hire people, pay taxes. And so you see the free software and the commercial software existing together.
There is a particular approach that breaks the cycle called the GPL that is not worth getting into today, but I don't think there is much awareness about how so-called free software foundations designed that to break that cycle.
Heh. For a kick, try opening this XHTML page [opera.com] in MSIE. Oh, it's a perfectly valid page: heck, it even encourages you to go validate it.
Displays perfectly on Opera, of course. How's it look in Mozilla?
hey that was pretty cool.....I opened it in mozilla, it was a normal page, everything looked fine, lalala...opened up IE6 and pasted in the address...wow. I dunno, it looks like those artifacts you get when you're first starting X (the remnants of your mandrake graphical lilo boot or last X session)...while degaussing the monitor.I don't know if it matters...but it looked kinda biased the way they were holding the thermometer 6 inches from the pentium 4 and half an inch from the athlons...
what do they have at UGA? not only do they have a card to swipe, but they also have handprint recognition! every time I'm there I try my hand to see if the handprint system does anything....and I never get through. I made the comment that UGA shouldn't have cooler toys than us...
I don't know about that....but I once ported a script from Perl Tk to Python tkinter (both on Windows), and it leaked memory hardcore. It was just a little window with 2 scrollboxes and a few buttons, I left it running once overnight and the next day it was using something like 80 megs of ram. Not exactly what I'd call stable anyway...
the interesting part about this anygui, and the part that makes me the most skeptical...is that one of their intended targets, along with wxWindows, GTK, mac native, etc...is ncurses. Somehow I just don't believe that they'll be able to write a toolkit so generic so writing a UI that looks fine in GTK looks fine in a console.
I wouldn't be surprised either, the linux version of winamp3, especially the UI, reeks of wine (horrible pun intended). While moving the windows around, it has that really slow to update feel that apps running under wine or ported with winelib have.
I think the 2.4.9 kernel has issues with the sb live, (hmm, maybe time to try out .11 with the preemptible patch?), so I may be wrong about this, but winamp's sound quality seemed to be really bad when I was playing with it. I tried the windows version of winamp3 and it sounded ok, though.
That having been said, they both suck when it comes to Ogg, in one way at least. I recently added Ogg support to maes. A Perl script is accessed through winamp/xmms, i.e. "getmp3.pl?id=1000". The perl file then gives the filename and mime type in the header, so if it's an ogg file the given filename will end in .ogg and the mime type is application/x-ogg, or whatever it's supposed to be. However, both players think it's an mp3 and choke trying to decode it.
Both of those having been said, Winamp for linux exits immediately on my machine.
wonderful point. I've often wondered when somebody was going to write a Free nfs client for windows, preferably one which integrated with the system like windows network shares (map drive letters and whatnot).
like he said, he ran comparable services on both machines...a web server on both, a sql server on both, a firewall on both, etc etc.
/. morons didn't bother to exercise the simple skill of reading.
Of course most of the
I use readysyncgo. it syncs palm and outlook (which syncs with my CE device), has some kind of cell phone support (maybe wap or something, I don't have a cell phone), and for linux use it has online pim/calendar/contact etc viewing/editing. it's a free service, it's handy.
Mandrake is probably one of the fastest releasers of new packages, just go to rpmfind.net. practically anything you search for will have its newest version put out by Mandrake Cooker. or polished linux, whatever that is.
on topic, I would recommend mandrake to any new linux user, I've run slackware, redhat 6.0-7.1, mandrake, progeny (debian), and mandrake has the easiest install and UI of them all, imho. that is, if you have the resources...mandrake does, as people have pointed out, use a lot of resources. I have a laptop I had to install redhat 7.1 on simply because the mandrake install required more ram than it has. redhat did do a good job with pcmcia and suspending scripts and whatnot. my server runs rh6.1, and my client, which has plenty of ram and whatnot runs mandrake 8, simply because I like nice guis (kdm, lilo, kde2), and don't have time to sysadmin all day.
ok that's the loudest that I've laughed at a /. comment in a looooong time.
don't know why I think it's so funny though....
no, you can't write the files/filesystem of a cdrom to your drive if it's an audio cd without said files/filesystem.
you're getting your rhetorics mixed up...are you the hippy socialist liberal against big companies, or are you a sensible conservative who thinks that spurious lawsuits should be punishable by a harsh beating?
As I understood it when I first read about star wars years ago, yes, one satellite could theoretically handle 50 missiles. As to whether they acheived that goal... I'm sure they can shoot down more than one, though.
How do you expect people to take your retarded and misinformed comments seriously if you can't even spell? Not to mention grammar...I could barely understand what was trying to escape from your driveling liberal lsd "enhanced" mind.
I was moderating, but I mean you people are so stupid. you think just because "Word" isn't trademarked but "Microsoft Word" is, that everything works that way. No! "Illustrator" is a registered trademark of Adobe. Period. Asking KIllustrator to change its name is perfectly acceptable, and much better than a lawsuit, and fine, and ending distribution.
You stupid people that don't check a single fact really piss me off. I wish there was a "Totally Wrong Information" moderator choice.
yeah, my public georgia high school was pretty crappy in the way of computers/computer classes. and ours wasn't the worst, there were schools even deeper in the backwoods, not to mention the ones here in downtown atlanta. I'm a computer science major now, and a majority of my peers actually had programming classes available to them in high school. but don't trash ga too much, the lottery has done wonders for the educational system.
I'm a "QA Engineer" at a windoze only company. I'm not quite sure of the details, but we just converted a lot of our stuff to unicode to handle multiple languages. one of my last assignments was testing our software on japanese nt with japanese oracle, japanese sql server, etc etc. what a nightmare.
oh yeah, it's not in-house, this is our release stuff.