tell me that. How did I read your article. I'm confused; I'm lost. I never use a wm when I run linux; yet, linux has been up for months. How did I read this and post this response......Mulder? I'm over here Scully... Mulder that's a CLI... I read the documentation, Scully...
Windows is better at linux at what? Give an example. All windows has is more device drivers to its collection; expect that to change. Unless you've ever installed and used linux, you are speaking out of your arse. But Windows 2000 will definitely improve the user experience at least two-fold; it will be stable; and have excellent backward compatibility.;)
I love linux on my pc. I've never really used macs. When I think of a mac, I think of the little box with a black and white screen my roommate bought from the bookstore freshman year at UC Davis. Back then, macs were everywhere on campus. Mac powerbooks for my poetry class. I really wanted one, but couldn't afford one, and typed my papers on a brother word processor. I started college in 1992, so the intenet was just born as a consumer tool. We played risk all day, and everyone else in the dorm always wanted to use it to write papers. He was so smug about it. He would say, "wanna use my mac?" "Nope, my word processor is fine," I said. I bet he still uses that little black and white screen in a gray box. I was jealous, I admit. Now I have an ugly beige box from dell with a killer OS, thank you very much. And I prefer the console [I'm being smug]. Go lynx; Go vi, Go bash, Go debian...
No lawyer can take 90% of of a class action. I've heard of 50%, but that is rare, more like 33% max. There are laws that limit a lawyer's share of class actions. The lawyer bashing on this site is ridiculous for a readership that is largely educated. Act like it.
That was a pretty good try, but the tangible results outcome is not used by the court anymore, no matter what this article said. That requirement is not part of the statute, and the court dropped it because it was judge-made law. Now they effect the clear letter of the law "any process"... may be patented.
Ya Canada is cool if you want a quiet boring life, with people that act kind of American and kind of British. Get an identity... What's your favorite TV show, don't watch TV. All your favorite musicians are canadian right?
I like Hip Hop (American), Jazz (American), and computers (American), light bulbs (American), peanut butter (American), etc. America has problems, but they are big baller problems, not little sucker problems. Oh my God, Quebec might separate. Who gives a shit. You know so much about America. I know more about Mexico (which is very cool). Canadians are more pompous than british if that is possible. I usually do not engage in stereotypes, I have cousins in Vancouver, but I'm tired of bitchy complainers from countries with no sun.
I'm in sunny California baby, surf's up dude, the killa kali breaze, etc... biiiiaaaaaayyaach
Ya Canada is cool if you want a quiet boring life, with people that act kind of American and kind of British. Get an identity... What's your favorite TV show, don't watch TV. All your favorite musicians are canadian right?
I like Hip Hop (American), Jazz (American), and computers (American), light bulbs (American), peanut butter (American), etc. America has problems, but they are big baller problems, not little sucker problems. Oh my God, Quebec might separate. Who gives a shit. You know so much about America. I know more about Mexico (which is very cool). Canadians are more pompous than british if that is possible. I usually do not engage in stereotypes, I have cousins in Vancouver, but I'm tired of bitchy complainers from countries with no sun.
I'm in sunny California baby, surf's up dude, the killa kali breaze, etc...
you willing to do for me? Probably nothing. You'd probably get mad if I asked for compensation say if I spent one year of my life defending your rights in court. Lawyers have a bad rap, buy many will work day and night on a single case for years. Some lawyers care. You don't hear lawyers hating you? Y'all are a bunch of bitch ass player haters fashow...
IP rights are founded on the notion that competition feeds growth in sciences and arts. A fundamental value in our laws is that people are self-interested and not altruistic. No Supreme Court decision could change that. Organize and revise the constitution. It's in Art. 1 of the constitution, and only Congress can change it. One thing is for sure, no amount of complaining on slashdot will change anything. I don't like it either, but it is not an issue that directly effects my industry, I'm more concerned and am active in the criminal law area. The point is, it takes action; action takes organisation; organisation takes planning; planning takes initiative; initiative takes concern. All we have so far is concern. There is a long way to go.
I went from slackware to redhat to caldera to redhat to debian. I love debian. For all you windows users out there. The hard part about installation is knowing what all your hardware is, and how the nomenclature translates to linux. When you install RedHat, the install finds out and tells you. Then, you can move to debian or some other distro if you wish. RedHat is just fine, I think it will definitely be the big contender among commercial linux distros. But as far as pure fun in experimenting with different linux apps, debian has given me the most pleasure. Debian will remain what is largely considered the most technically pristine distribution. I can think of many ways to implement debian in the corporate or SOHO settings. If your not sick of installation (a linux skill in itself) try debian and other distros, the beauty of linux is the sheer number of flavors. Linux will overtake MS not by one distro dominating (although certainly some distro will emerge with the most notoriety a la RedHat), but linux distros overall will dominate because they can be customized for anyone's special needs. There could be Grandma Linux that boots with very few daemons, has a very easy GUI that starts automatically, has some imaging software for her fancy new sewing machine that accepts bitmaps for patterns, a fast browser, etc. What is even more beautiful, is the small company that distributes Grandma Linux could then support it in a much more personal manner. Possibly even customize some apps for her. Or better yet, customize her homepage so that she has quick access to stuff she cares about, yahoo, her mutual funds, email lists of her kids and grandkids, etc. Some equally as beautiful is that for her monthly charge of $20 or whatever the service provider could offer a sub $1000, or $500 pc.
What I'm trying to say, is that linux does not have to be user un-friendly. Most people use general purpose distros, these necessarily include users of MIT level technical ability and people like me (a law student who only discovered linux 8 months ago). Linux offers the freedom to customize a distro based on a larger distro, to tweak it for a very specific purpose (i.e., the opposite pole of a beowulf implementation). We all tend to focus on which distro is better than which, when we should focus on how to make every conceivable distro for every purpose and start businesses to support them. Linux will be hurt by a one company domination model. It will flourish where many distros are based on open standards. There will always be shortcomings with any model, but I think the one I have envisioned is superior. Any comments?
I've purchased version 1.2 and 1.3. I had trouble upgrading individual packages. So when you say "our users have no trouble with individual package upgrades using RPM" you are wrong. I was a user, and I had problems. RPMs are inferior to.DEBs. It is my opinion, and my opinion comes from my experience with both. I am no conspiracy theorist. It is obvious you would defend Caldera since you work there. I think Caldera is a good system overall. For KDE fans it is preferable. I simply prefer debian; thus, I will use what I prefer. RPMs my tell one what dependencies are needed, but do not always give a means of obtaining the dependencies. Debian does. You can defend all you want, but the fact is I was a Caldera user and now I'm not. Rather than react defensively, your company should pay heed to the reason why I left. Don't you care about maintaining a user base? Be that as it may... debian is a superior distribution by my estimation. Perhaps if you tried debian you would like it too Mr. Ratcliffe.
If RPM is not a marketing issue, then it is an inferior technical choice. Caldera is not married to RedHat standards, what is to prevent Caldera from using apt and dpkg? Nothing. Except it is not kosher for a company to switch gears like that because it gives the perception of misjudgment. Marketing is everthing to a companies bottom line. Marketing is not a conspiracy; it is a reality. The odd thing about Linux is that it thrives by users who take pleasure in using it more than by marketing. In my opinion RH is #1 because its install is the easiest. Debian is the #2 distribution because it is so good.
I was a fervent Caldera user for some time. I then used RH5.x. I chose and now use Debian 2.0 because the need to upgrade specific packages is much easier. I found that in RH and Caldera the dependency problems forced one as a practical matter to wait for the next version release. I concluded that this was a marketing ploy, and the fact that debian allows one to upgrade any part or the whole in an easy way (apt-get install n) is very satisfying. Debian has its own subculture in IRC, and that in and of itself is a pleasure. Debian is not as easy to install, but if you have installed Caldera and RH or other distros, you know your hardware configuration by heart by now, and you should have no problem setting up debian. If you have problems irc.debian.org #debian is an excellent resource for installation troubleshooting.
I am a strong proponent of the liberal education followed by the technical specialization model. College is overpriced; there should be strong public support for free college education (i.e., a liberal bachelors). Then, one can chose a profession and specialize to one's heart's content. Alternatively, one can pursue a technical education/experience program instead of a liberal education. I was a comparative literature and philosophy major as an undergrad and loved it; I wrote a lot of poetry too. I loved those years. In law school, in my solitude filled hours researching law on the internet, I discovered linux and now I play with debian all day (and study in my spare time). I have a long way to go before I can claim to be a geek. One thing liberal education teaches you is to learn a lot of information fast. One can do it without college. But the content one absorbs in college makes one think. That is a good thing. Some people prefer work filled hours; such people can choose our protaganist's path.
Yet, it is indeed a crime that one must pay such exorbatant amounts for an education that has mainly personal value v. any real monetary value. Theoretical education is a social value, technical education is an economic value. The fact that liberal education does not translate into dollar returns for the investee does not mean there are not net gains for the society. Society is the more appropriate investee for theoretical education, and the student is the more appropriate investee for technical education.
Make it like the AMA or ABA
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These are like unions only better because they have all the benefits of a union, plus enormously strong lobbies. The real power of a professional organization is collecting dues and lobbying congress for the mutual interests of the group. If you don't form such a thing, you will be stuck with MS doing all the lobbying... American Bar Association and American Medical Association are the two most powerful lobbies following only by tabacco. There are many more IT professionals and many make comparable salaries to many doctors or lawyers. Benefits include insurance, accreditation of schools, and standardization of skill level through examination. Collect dues, and the lobby power will come. Why do you think Y2K suits don't have a maximum damages bar? ABA lobbied against it and it died. Cryptography restrictions could be next if there were such a lobby. Imagine the services that could be sold if the US let up on that?
Entrepreurialism is the new model...
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I agree. If you have a marketable skill, market it. If you have an idea, plan, design, implement, market, sell. Simple in theory, difficult in practice. So let's all get to work... for our selves.
Is why I use .deb and compile my own
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Redhat is the leading distro because of the easy installation. Debian is the best distro because of.deb, dpkg, and apt. When you learn more you'll move up. I needed RedHat for on month before graduating to debian. When you find you can't upgrade sw you want because of rpms don't let you acquire the necessary dependencies or won't overcome conflicts you'll check out debian, and you'll love it. Aside from that, that rpm kernel you installed has options you don't need. You could reduce the size of the kernel by typing make clean, make menuconfig, make dep, make bzImage (if it's that big) or make zImage, then make bzlilo to install it, make modules, make modules_install, that's it, reboot. Participate in the linux community and report bugs. Trust me, if I can do it, you can too.
IP_MASQ_F_DLOOSE: I just reported this...
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I don't do -ac patches because I'm too lazy to undo them before the next one. Pre6 should have this fixed; at least I hope so I'm in the middle of configuring a firewall so this bug wrecks the effort. Patienly waiting...
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tell me that. How did I read your article. I'm confused; I'm lost. I never use a wm when I run linux; yet, linux has been up for months. How did I read this and post this response. .....Mulder? I'm over here Scully... Mulder that's a CLI... I read the documentation, Scully...
Windows is better at linux at what? Give an example. All windows has is more device drivers to its collection; expect that to change. Unless you've ever installed and used linux, you are speaking out of your arse. But Windows 2000 will definitely improve the user experience at least two-fold; it will be stable; and have excellent backward compatibility. ;)
I love linux on my pc. I've never really used macs. When I think of a mac, I think of the little box with a black and white screen my roommate bought from the bookstore freshman year at UC Davis. Back then, macs were everywhere on campus. Mac powerbooks for my poetry class. I really wanted one, but couldn't afford one, and typed my papers on a brother word processor. I started college in 1992, so the intenet was just born as a consumer tool. We played risk all day, and everyone else in the dorm always wanted to use it to write papers. He was so smug about it. He would say, "wanna use my mac?" "Nope, my word processor is fine," I said. I bet he still uses that little black and white screen in a gray box. I was jealous, I admit. Now I have an ugly beige box from dell with a killer OS, thank you very much. And I prefer the console [I'm being smug]. Go lynx; Go vi, Go bash, Go debian...
No lawyer can take 90% of of a class action. I've heard of 50%, but that is rare, more like 33% max. There are laws that limit a lawyer's share of class actions. The lawyer bashing on this site is ridiculous for a readership that is largely educated. Act like it.
That was a pretty good try, but the tangible results outcome is not used by the court anymore, no matter what this article said. That requirement is not part of the statute, and the court dropped it because it was judge-made law. Now they effect the clear letter of the law "any process"... may be patented.
Ya Canada is cool if you want a quiet boring life, with people that act kind of American and kind of British. Get an identity... What's your favorite TV show, don't watch TV. All your favorite musicians are canadian right?
I like Hip Hop (American), Jazz (American), and computers (American), light bulbs (American), peanut butter (American), etc. America has problems, but they are big baller problems, not little sucker problems. Oh my God, Quebec might separate. Who gives a shit. You know so much about America. I know more about Mexico (which is very cool). Canadians are more pompous than british if that is possible. I usually do not engage in stereotypes, I have cousins in Vancouver, but I'm tired of bitchy complainers from countries with no sun.
I'm in sunny California baby, surf's up dude, the killa kali breaze, etc... biiiiaaaaaayyaach
Ya Canada is cool if you want a quiet boring life, with people that act kind of American and kind of British. Get an identity... What's your favorite TV show, don't watch TV. All your favorite musicians are canadian right?
I like Hip Hop (American), Jazz (American), and computers (American), light bulbs (American), peanut butter (American), etc. America has problems, but they are big baller problems, not little sucker problems. Oh my God, Quebec might separate. Who gives a shit. You know so much about America. I know more about Mexico (which is very cool). Canadians are more pompous than british if that is possible. I usually do not engage in stereotypes, I have cousins in Vancouver, but I'm tired of bitchy complainers from countries with no sun.
I'm in sunny California baby, surf's up dude, the killa kali breaze, etc...
you willing to do for me? Probably nothing. You'd probably get mad if I asked for compensation say if I spent one year of my life defending your rights in court. Lawyers have a bad rap, buy many will work day and night on a single case for years. Some lawyers care. You don't hear lawyers hating you? Y'all are a bunch of bitch ass player haters fashow...
IP rights are founded on the notion that competition feeds growth in sciences and arts. A fundamental value in our laws is that people are self-interested and not altruistic. No Supreme Court decision could change that. Organize and revise the constitution. It's in Art. 1 of the constitution, and only Congress can change it. One thing is for sure, no amount of complaining on slashdot will change anything. I don't like it either, but it is not an issue that directly effects my industry, I'm more concerned and am active in the criminal law area. The point is, it takes action; action takes organisation; organisation takes planning; planning takes initiative; initiative takes concern. All we have so far is concern. There is a long way to go.
I went from slackware to redhat to caldera to redhat to debian. I love debian. For all you windows users out there. The hard part about installation is knowing what all your hardware is, and how the nomenclature translates to linux. When you install RedHat, the install finds out and tells you. Then, you can move to debian or some other distro if you wish. RedHat is just fine, I think it will definitely be the big contender among commercial linux distros. But as far as pure fun in experimenting with different linux apps, debian has given me the most pleasure. Debian will remain what is largely considered the most technically pristine distribution. I can think of many ways to implement debian in the corporate or SOHO settings. If your not sick of installation (a linux skill in itself) try debian and other distros, the beauty of linux is the sheer number of flavors. Linux will overtake MS not by one distro dominating (although certainly some distro will emerge with the most notoriety a la RedHat),
but linux distros overall will dominate because they can be customized for anyone's special needs. There could be Grandma Linux that boots with very few daemons, has a very easy GUI that starts automatically, has some imaging software for her fancy new sewing machine that accepts bitmaps for patterns, a fast browser, etc. What is even more beautiful, is the small company that distributes Grandma Linux could then support it in a much more personal manner. Possibly even customize some apps for her. Or better yet, customize her homepage so that she has quick access to stuff she cares about, yahoo, her mutual funds, email lists of her kids and grandkids, etc. Some equally as beautiful is that for her monthly charge of $20 or whatever the service provider could offer a sub $1000, or $500 pc.
What I'm trying to say, is that linux does not have to be user un-friendly. Most people use general purpose distros, these necessarily include users of MIT level technical ability and people like me (a law student who only discovered linux 8 months ago). Linux offers the freedom to customize a distro based on a larger distro, to tweak it for a very specific purpose (i.e., the opposite pole of a beowulf implementation). We all tend to focus on which distro is better than which, when we should focus on how to make every conceivable distro for every purpose and start businesses to support them. Linux will be hurt by a one company domination model. It will flourish where many distros are based on open standards. There will always be shortcomings with any model, but I think the one I have envisioned is superior. Any comments?
I've purchased version 1.2 and 1.3. I had trouble upgrading individual packages. So when you say "our users have no trouble with individual package upgrades using RPM" you are wrong. I was a user, and I had problems. RPMs are inferior to .DEBs. It is my opinion, and my opinion comes from my experience with both. I am no conspiracy theorist. It is obvious you would defend Caldera since you work there. I think Caldera is a good system overall. For KDE fans it is preferable. I simply prefer debian; thus, I will use what I prefer. RPMs my tell one what dependencies are needed, but do not always give a means of obtaining the dependencies. Debian does. You can defend all you want, but the fact is I was a Caldera user and now I'm not. Rather than react defensively, your company should pay heed to the reason why I left. Don't you care about maintaining a user base? Be that as it may... debian is a superior distribution by my estimation. Perhaps if you tried debian you would like it too Mr. Ratcliffe.
If RPM is not a marketing issue, then it is an inferior technical choice. Caldera is not married to RedHat standards, what is to prevent Caldera from using apt and dpkg? Nothing. Except it is not kosher for a company to switch gears like that because it gives the perception of misjudgment. Marketing is everthing to a companies bottom line. Marketing is not a conspiracy; it is a reality. The odd thing about Linux is that it thrives by users who take pleasure in using it more than by marketing. In my opinion RH is #1 because its install is the easiest. Debian is the #2 distribution because it is so good.
I was a fervent Caldera user for some time. I then used RH5.x. I chose and now use Debian 2.0 because the need to upgrade specific packages is much easier. I found that in RH and Caldera the dependency problems forced one as a practical matter to wait for the next version release. I concluded that this was a marketing ploy, and the fact that debian allows one to upgrade any part or the whole in an easy way (apt-get install n) is very satisfying. Debian has its own subculture in IRC, and that in and of itself is a pleasure. Debian is not as easy to install, but if you have installed Caldera and RH or other distros, you know your hardware configuration by heart by now, and you should have no problem setting up debian. If you have problems irc.debian.org #debian is an excellent resource for installation troubleshooting.
I am a strong proponent of the liberal education followed by the technical specialization model. College is overpriced; there should be strong public support for free college education (i.e., a liberal bachelors). Then, one can chose a profession and specialize to one's heart's content. Alternatively, one can pursue a technical education/experience program instead of a liberal education. I was a comparative literature and philosophy major as an undergrad and loved it; I wrote a lot of poetry too. I loved those years. In law school, in my solitude filled hours researching law on the internet, I discovered linux and now I play with debian all day (and study in my spare time). I have a long way to go before I can claim to be a geek. One thing liberal education teaches you is to learn a lot of information fast. One can do it without college. But the content one absorbs in college makes one think. That is a good thing. Some people prefer work filled hours; such people can choose our protaganist's
path.
Yet, it is indeed a crime that one must pay such exorbatant amounts for an education that has mainly personal value v. any real monetary value. Theoretical education is a social value, technical education is an economic value. The fact that liberal education does not translate into dollar returns for the investee does not mean there are not net gains for the society. Society is the more appropriate investee for theoretical education, and the student is the more appropriate investee for technical education.
These are like unions only better because they have all the benefits of a union, plus enormously strong lobbies. The real power of a professional organization is collecting dues and lobbying congress for the mutual interests of the group. If you don't form such a thing, you will be stuck with MS doing all the lobbying... American Bar Association and American Medical Association are the two most powerful lobbies following only by tabacco. There are many more IT professionals and many make comparable salaries to many doctors or lawyers. Benefits include insurance, accreditation of schools, and standardization of skill level through examination. Collect dues, and the lobby power will come. Why do you think Y2K suits don't have a maximum damages bar? ABA lobbied against it and it died. Cryptography restrictions could be next if there were such a lobby. Imagine the services that could be sold if the US let up on that?
I agree. If you have a marketable skill, market it. If you have an idea, plan, design, implement, market, sell. Simple in theory, difficult in practice. So let's all get to work... for our selves.
Redhat is the leading distro because of the easy installation. Debian is the best distro because of .deb, dpkg, and apt. When you learn more you'll move up. I needed RedHat for on month before graduating to debian. When you find you can't upgrade sw you want because of rpms don't let you acquire the necessary dependencies or won't overcome conflicts you'll check out debian, and you'll love it. Aside from that, that rpm kernel you installed has options you don't need. You could reduce the size of the kernel by typing make clean, make menuconfig, make dep, make bzImage (if it's that big) or make zImage, then make bzlilo to install it, make modules, make modules_install, that's it, reboot. Participate in the linux community and report bugs. Trust me, if I can do it, you can too.
I don't do -ac patches because I'm too lazy to undo them before the next one. Pre6 should have this fixed; at least I hope so I'm in the middle of configuring a firewall so this bug wrecks the effort. Patienly waiting...
that's why lynx makes life easier