Unfortunately, when the company folds protecting the stakeholders there is nobody left to sue! Oooops! There goes that darn accountability!
Eh? The company was destroyed. If you think the company should be punished, is there any better punishment? Isn't this a good thing? It means that the company is not going to do that again. Maybe it would satisfy people if the guy killed himself?
Can he magically make the security breaches un-happen?
At most, if the company stayed around, it could be sued for the costs involved in the cleanup -- but the only winners there would be the lawyers.
I like plenty of non-RIAA music but why should I limit what I like to listen to just because the RIAA is up to no good.
You should limit what you purchase because RIAA members attack their customers. I, for one, do NOT want to be a customer of those kind of jerks, and I sure don't want to financially support their Inquisition.
You can still listen. Borrow the CD from the library and your friends. Buy or download non-RIAA versions, such as live recordings and covers. Listen to the radio, Pandora, last.fm, satellite radio, youtubed videos, free online versions (such as found at Rhapsody, Napster, etc)...there's a plethora of other ways to hear what you like without paying extortionary rates for DRM-encrusted CDs. At most, you'd be contributing minimally (ads on Pandora, last.fm, Rhapsody, and Napster probably benefit the RIAA a little bit; small portions of money from satellite radio go to record companies on both sides of the RIAA divide; and libraries do pay for CDs).
For the classic bands like Led Zeppelin, you probably have most of what you like from them, and if not, they're definitely available in all of the formats and sources I described above. For new music, that's where it pays to expand your horizons into music not published by the RIAA. You get exciting new-to-you bands, and the RIAA gets a slap in the face.
It's a little annoying and a little more work, but not half as annoying or expensive as lawsuits by RIAA members who hate their customers. You say you want them to go to a special level of hell. The only language that they speak is money, so speak in their language. Too bad they don't speak it fluently, or else they would have noticed that their profits went up when piracy went up, and only after they announced that they have piracy "under control" did their profits fall.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: "piracy" causes consumers to get excited about music and results in them buying more than they otherwise would have bought -- that's an observation I've made of the music buying habits of myself and others. I didn't notice it until I stopped buying RIAA-member products; then I realized I really wasn't interested in it anywhere near as much as I used to be.
Actually, re-reading that post, I can see that I might not have been wrong, I may have misunderstood stuff. Look, maybe everything I've posted in this thread should just be modded down into oblivion...
The GP is correct that performance rights are managed by ASCAP (which is run by and for artists) and BMI.
If that's correct, then once again I was wrong. I thought that songwriters, not performers, owned the rights and were represented by ASCAP. Of course, the point is rather meaningless when the performer IS the writer.
I guess it's hard to keep track of the alphabet soup in the audit trail of the rights to what I listen to on the radio.
To clarify what I was looking for...I don't care if they're successful or not. I don't care if people call them "indie" or not. I only care if I'm supporting the RIAA and their members or not. I do NOT want to use my money to support the companies that collaborate and conspire to treat their own customers like criminals.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into all of those.
It's probably more effective to buy non-RIAA music than to get free non-RIAA music. Somebody else making money really sends a message to the RIAA. Music closer to the mainstream might make the point hit home better.
Of course, the best music for you to consume is the music you like best. Music is kind of like food, though: Once you get used to organic vegan health food (ick!), you can't stomach greasy mass-produced stuff anymore. Well, I still like greasy mass-produced food, but I can't tolerate Metallica or Faith Hill. Now while I eat a cheeseburger, I listen to State Of Corruption or John Prine.
I don't buy RIAA-related music; if I want to hear some, I borrow the CD from the state library system.
It's easy to find indie country music that I like; loads of it gets played on Sirius Outlaw Country. Metal, OTOH, is a littel more difficult. So...anybody want to recommend some good indie hard rock / metal for someone who like Corrosion Of Conformity, Type O Negative, Black Sabbath, Monster Magnet, Tool, Anthrax, Rammstein, Megadeth, and Faith No More?
Drinkers will compete to see who can blow the highest number. That's a good motivation for bar owners. Then, they will be more drunk, and everybody will know who shouldn't be driving.
I went to a bar in Windsor, Ontario and was blown away by the greatest invention. They had a freakin 25 cent breathalyzer that told you exactly how drunk you were! That's BRILLIANT!
My username is short for The Holy Cow. I came up with it, and the abbreviation "THC", when I was a child before I even knew what "THC" is.
Granted, I thought it was a funny coincidence when I found out, and then I thought it was eerily appropriate when I was 17 and going on high rides, but ten years later I don't do that anymore...and in about 30,000 miles of that, I never did have an accident.
My signature on the local BBS was: ___ _ -- \ \-\ \_--
The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that there are lots of records about traffic accidents. One of the first things police officers check (in the US, at least) is if anybody involved is drunk. The same tests often happen for violent crime. The one thing that is always consistent is that a very disproportional number of auto accidents (or violent crime such as murder, rape, or robbery) happen when alcohol is consumed by one or more of the participants.
The thing that doesn't make sense to ME is that these criminals are found to be way over the existing limit, but somehow the solution is supposed to be lowering the limit. How would that help when they were already above the legal DUI limit?
And the people who had two beers are probably not the ones over.08, the ones downing a case are.
Even if you accept all the propoganda that they teach high school kids, you wouldn't think that. In high school, we were taught that.08 is equal to two beers for a 150 pound man.
In fact, it just depends where you get your propoganda. http://www.insure.com/articles/carinsurance/blood- alcohol-calculator.html There, a 150lb man has a BAC of.0395 after drinking two beers in an hour. He'd have to drink 4 to get over.08. At 220lbs, I could drink 5 beers in the first hour and still be legal.
Anyway, people pushing the agenda of lowering the limit so often provide examples and statistics that are made up mainly of drivers who were way over the existing limit. Better enforcement is what's necessary, and that doesn't mean roadblocks and checkpoints; it means responding quickly to complaints (I've called in drivers who appear to be DUI a few times), going after obvious DUIs instead of the guy who was driving well but doing 5mph over the speed limit, and (as distasteful as this is) heavier enforcement around bar areas.
I also like the idea, further up the thread, of making breathalyzers (personal or in the bar) available to everyone who's not sure if they're allowed to drive or not; it wouldn't be hard to add social engineering of peer pressure to get people to test and then others to disallow them from driving...and call the cops if they drive anyway.
TFA doesn't say what level he tested at, but it's certainly possible that he was tested above the legal limit while well within the ability to drive decently. He may be a piece of shit for driving drunk, or he may be an unfortunate victim of the jerks who think that lowering the legal limit to an indecent level will make the roads safer.
They don't all live in their parents' basements. Some start as married adults (but generally end up being more like single adolescent losers). Hey, come to think of it, isn't WoW a form of terrorism in the way it consistently destroys marriages?
I don't see any way to contact you in your slashdot profile, but could you email me? I'd like to ask some questions about your Providence-Boston commute, as I might have to do a similar commute soon. My email is on my web page at http://ronanian.googlepages.com/ Or, if you want to figure it out without visiting my site and without me posting it here where it will attract lots of spam, take the bit to the left of ".googlepages.com" and prepend it to "gmail.com". Thanks.
Douglas Adams was very interested in the combination of music and math, and biology. I think I even remember reading (probably in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) about music made from DNA (similar to the idea of making music from corporate profit reports). Then again, I could be pulling that out of MYASS...
I guess the government (and every company's "security" department) is exempt because their cameras are mounted on buildings and utility poles instead of a tripod. Yup, big brother gets to take more pictures of everybody, while the citizens get to take fewer pictures.
I'm glad I live in a town where there are more acres of forest (a ratio of 4 acres land, at least 59% forested, to every 1 person) than there are people. Nobody bothers with us unimportant hicks.
Did you even read the summary? The first couple sentences sounded great to me; it sounded like the machine would go "beep" if someone from the "most wanted" list was nearby and the cop could chase him down. Then it turns out that they're tracking everyone and going to hassle everbody who has ever committed any petty little crime.
All matches are stored (with no expiration date given) and can be brought up later and cross-referenced on a map. If the plate is wanted, the times and locations of where it was scanned can be referenced.
They're automatically tracking everyone and keeping a log of that tracking indefinitely.
The Springdale police department hopes to begin using the system soon to locate misdemeanor suspects.
...AND they're going to use it for every petty crime! Sounds kinda like a police state to me.
...and after all that, I still got modded up to "5, Informative". Mods, aren't you paying attention? I was wrong; I thought the lid at the front of the car was called a "hood" regardless of what it covers. In fact, the lid over the engine is called a "hood" regardless of its location.
By that definition, perhaps it's not a hood if it's removable panels rather than being hinged. I googled around and couldn't figure out if it's hinged or not.
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Can he magically make the security breaches un-happen?
At most, if the company stayed around, it could be sued for the costs involved in the cleanup -- but the only winners there would be the lawyers.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=269761&cid=20
You can still listen. Borrow the CD from the library and your friends. Buy or download non-RIAA versions, such as live recordings and covers. Listen to the radio, Pandora, last.fm, satellite radio, youtubed videos, free online versions (such as found at Rhapsody, Napster, etc)...there's a plethora of other ways to hear what you like without paying extortionary rates for DRM-encrusted CDs. At most, you'd be contributing minimally (ads on Pandora, last.fm, Rhapsody, and Napster probably benefit the RIAA a little bit; small portions of money from satellite radio go to record companies on both sides of the RIAA divide; and libraries do pay for CDs).
For the classic bands like Led Zeppelin, you probably have most of what you like from them, and if not, they're definitely available in all of the formats and sources I described above. For new music, that's where it pays to expand your horizons into music not published by the RIAA. You get exciting new-to-you bands, and the RIAA gets a slap in the face.
It's a little annoying and a little more work, but not half as annoying or expensive as lawsuits by RIAA members who hate their customers. You say you want them to go to a special level of hell. The only language that they speak is money, so speak in their language. Too bad they don't speak it fluently, or else they would have noticed that their profits went up when piracy went up, and only after they announced that they have piracy "under control" did their profits fall.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: "piracy" causes consumers to get excited about music and results in them buying more than they otherwise would have bought -- that's an observation I've made of the music buying habits of myself and others. I didn't notice it until I stopped buying RIAA-member products; then I realized I really wasn't interested in it anywhere near as much as I used to be.
Actually, re-reading that post, I can see that I might not have been wrong, I may have misunderstood stuff. Look, maybe everything I've posted in this thread should just be modded down into oblivion...
I guess it's hard to keep track of the alphabet soup in the audit trail of the rights to what I listen to on the radio.
To clarify what I was looking for...I don't care if they're successful or not. I don't care if people call them "indie" or not. I only care if I'm supporting the RIAA and their members or not. I do NOT want to use my money to support the companies that collaborate and conspire to treat their own customers like criminals.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into all of those.
I stand corrected. Maybe she can seize the copyrights to some recordings.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the songs themselves are copyrighted by their writers, who are represented by ASCAP, right?
It's probably more effective to buy non-RIAA music than to get free non-RIAA music. Somebody else making money really sends a message to the RIAA. Music closer to the mainstream might make the point hit home better.
Of course, the best music for you to consume is the music you like best. Music is kind of like food, though: Once you get used to organic vegan health food (ick!), you can't stomach greasy mass-produced stuff anymore. Well, I still like greasy mass-produced food, but I can't tolerate Metallica or Faith Hill. Now while I eat a cheeseburger, I listen to State Of Corruption or John Prine.
I don't buy RIAA-related music; if I want to hear some, I borrow the CD from the state library system.
Links for non-RIAA music:
http://www.riaaradar.com/ -- Look up a CD you want to buy and see if it's RIAA-affiliated
http://www.emusic.com/ -- Commercial music from non-RIAA labels, cheap, in DRM-free MP3s
http://garageband.com/
http://www.stage.fm/
It's easy to find indie country music that I like; loads of it gets played on Sirius Outlaw Country. Metal, OTOH, is a littel more difficult. So...anybody want to recommend some good indie hard rock / metal for someone who like Corrosion Of Conformity, Type O Negative, Black Sabbath, Monster Magnet, Tool, Anthrax, Rammstein, Megadeth, and Faith No More?
Maybe she can seize the copyrights to some songs...
There's a bar that charges to use it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=265759&cid=20
Eh?
My username is short for The Holy Cow. I came up with it, and the abbreviation "THC", when I was a child before I even knew what "THC" is.
Granted, I thought it was a funny coincidence when I found out, and then I thought it was eerily appropriate when I was 17 and going on high rides, but ten years later I don't do that anymore...and in about 30,000 miles of that, I never did have an accident.
My signature on the local BBS was:
___ _
-- \ \-\ \_--
In fact, it just depends where you get your propoganda.
http://www.insure.com/articles/carinsurance/blood
There, a 150lb man has a BAC of
There's a chart at wikipedia, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_conten
Hmm...that one agrees with insure.com. Maybe I really can have four drinks within an hour and then drive legally.
Anyway, people pushing the agenda of lowering the limit so often provide examples and statistics that are made up mainly of drivers who were way over the existing limit. Better enforcement is what's necessary, and that doesn't mean roadblocks and checkpoints; it means responding quickly to complaints (I've called in drivers who appear to be DUI a few times), going after obvious DUIs instead of the guy who was driving well but doing 5mph over the speed limit, and (as distasteful as this is) heavier enforcement around bar areas.
I also like the idea, further up the thread, of making breathalyzers (personal or in the bar) available to everyone who's not sure if they're allowed to drive or not; it wouldn't be hard to add social engineering of peer pressure to get people to test and then others to disallow them from driving...and call the cops if they drive anyway.
TFA doesn't say what level he tested at, but it's certainly possible that he was tested above the legal limit while well within the ability to drive decently. He may be a piece of shit for driving drunk, or he may be an unfortunate victim of the jerks who think that lowering the legal limit to an indecent level will make the roads safer.
Hmm...we could even come up with a catchy way to say it...maybe...
"An eye for an eye."
They don't all live in their parents' basements. Some start as married adults (but generally end up being more like single adolescent losers). Hey, come to think of it, isn't WoW a form of terrorism in the way it consistently destroys marriages?
I don't see any way to contact you in your slashdot profile, but could you email me? I'd like to ask some questions about your Providence-Boston commute, as I might have to do a similar commute soon.
My email is on my web page at
http://ronanian.googlepages.com/
Or, if you want to figure it out without visiting my site and without me posting it here where it will attract lots of spam, take the bit to the left of ".googlepages.com" and prepend it to "gmail.com". Thanks.
DNA = Douglas Noel Adams...
Douglas Adams was very interested in the combination of music and math, and biology. I think I even remember reading (probably in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) about music made from DNA (similar to the idea of making music from corporate profit reports). Then again, I could be pulling that out of MYASS...
Really? It's got more CO2 than the intake air, and isn't it CO2 that the environmentalists bitch about the most?
How about...
"Can I ask you a question?"
"You just did."
I guess the government (and every company's "security" department) is exempt because their cameras are mounted on buildings and utility poles instead of a tripod. Yup, big brother gets to take more pictures of everybody, while the citizens get to take fewer pictures.
I'm glad I live in a town where there are more acres of forest (a ratio of 4 acres land, at least 59% forested, to every 1 person) than there are people. Nobody bothers with us unimportant hicks.
...and after all that, I still got modded up to "5, Informative". Mods, aren't you paying attention? I was wrong; I thought the lid at the front of the car was called a "hood" regardless of what it covers. In fact, the lid over the engine is called a "hood" regardless of its location.
See http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hood
3. the hinged, movable part of an automobile body covering the engine.
By that definition, perhaps it's not a hood if it's removable panels rather than being hinged. I googled around and couldn't figure out if it's hinged or not.