But if the parent was actually serious that makes it all the funnier. Before Napster, I'd bought 12 CDs over the course of 3 years. Within a year of using Napster, I'd bought 20. After 4 years of pirating music I'd bought 400 CDs.
I bought more music when I had the chance to decide if I liked the CD first... and I was happier with my purchases.
still has tons of stuff I don't care about. Stock information? Don't own any, and if I did I'd go to stock sites to check that out. News? Not interested - I just want to search the web.
A small added benefit of Google's simplicity is that it doesn't send me into epileptic seizures.
And I'm not even epileptic.
Yahoo's main page may tell me about all the shiny new things they have going on but _I_DON'T_CARE_. I just want to run a search. A "What's new?" link would be plenty - for when I actually care, which is 1% of the time max.
Your response to my original post was pretty irritating to me - my focus in the original post was simply that the MAFIAA tends to win a lot of cases (the infamous granny case, etc) because their victims don't understand how to defend themselves, and informed college students often do know how to defend themselves.
I should not have gotten angry simply because you didn't know the full story, and while it annoyed me that you assumed the worst (I didn't intend to imply that my activities were illegal, but that doesn't mean it didn't look that way to others), flaming back wasn't constructive. You may not have intended your post as flame, but that's how I perceived it.
Anyway you're probably someone I'd get along with in real life, but you saw the worst side of me and I saw the worst side of you - I'm burying the hatchet and I hope you do as well.
There was no such implication, that's the part that earned you the derogatory name-calling part. And I wouldn't call it "name calling" as much as "name observing".
And since you asked, I was sharing divx encoded versions of movies my friend owned because he didn't know how to encode them but wanted to watch them on his old box that didn't have a DVD drive. They were encoded and shared expressly for him, and I deleted them once he downloaded them. I encoded them on my machine because it was much faster and was 64-bit so the time saved on encoding was worth the time spent transferring.
So there's plenty of reason for me to continue this conversation by writing back - you were not just wrong but damn wrong.
The assumption that any given sharing of media is illegal pirating is a very damaging one legally and economically. Congratulations, you just contributed.
but they are not criminals We'll just cross reference that with the rest of your quote.
A criminal is by definition someone who breaks the law. Umm... well, they made some decisions that weren't completely in sync with some monopoly laws in some countries, So what you're saying is they broke the law.
It's not like they've done anything that hasn't been done before Yeah, since rape, murder, extortion, etc haven't ever been done before I can see why you make the exception.
Why should we care about what you think about it, Linus? Erm... well, the interviewer did ASK him. That's a good reason for him to think his opinion was wanted.
... which equates to slander (at least by honest people, but not by the letter of the law).
They win continually by talking trash.
On top of that they are paying students at universities to advocate their stuff (I forget the name of the program, but I refused to be a part of it), and they pay untold crazy amounts of cash for positive marketing.
All Linux has to fight that with is to counter Microsoft's FUD (AKA talking trash, often misconstrued as disrespect) and advocate open source at the grass roots level.
Next time you see an open source zealot denouncing Microsoft or promoting open source, don't look at them as off base. They're not distorting fact any more than Microsoft's marketing team, they're just doing it for free because they believe in a cause. I don't see how a paid-for study or banner on a web site gives Microsoft any more credibility, but apparently many people think it does.
That'd be a useful FF extension - one that lets you set your browser agent to lie on specific sites. Then I could still report FF on most sites, but just IE on sites that needed it.
... is that Linux is actually a pretty critical strategic piece for companies like Adobe. Adobe's market is getting targeted aggressively by Microsoft. The very best way to steal as much of Microsoft's thunder as possible is to support alternative platforms with equal quality. Microsoft's only strategy, from the start, has been "vendor lock-in." If they want to use *software people actually care about* they have to do it on Windows.
The short sighted thing to do is write for the platform everyone else uses, but in the long term - when you find yourself as a primary target/enemy of the company your product relies on you have nobody to cry to. Writing only for Windows because that's the only platform that pays off at the moment will cause you to pay much more down the road. Adobe's finding that out now.
People like you need to understand that, from a business standpoint, worrying about this insanely strategic and important platform simply makes sense, but in the long term.
"With all the animosity RIAA creates and contempt they have duly earned I would not be surprised if some people pirate just to spite RIAA."
I do. Then I send money to the artists I like. I'm not interested in ripping off the artists - just the bastards that are ripping off consumers. I'm quite willing to fight fire with fire in that case.
This reminds me of when I was in college and several classmates of mine and I received notices from the MPIAA for sharing movies on the Internet.
We laughed our asses off. If they took us to court we could do all sorts of things from claiming to have an unsecured wireless network to bringing up ip spoofing, to... you name it.
I never got it in Windows, but I did see mention of it in the changelogs at penguin.swf as being fixed, so I'm lead to believe it was specific to the Linux version. Either way it's fixed so who cares anymore:-) Water under the bridge.
The difference is that since this has been in Adobe's hands we haven't seen terrible offense yet. I'm not saying we won't soon enough, but I'm saying we can't take Macromedia's bad rep and apply it to Adobe until Adobe gives us reason, and they haven't (yet).
"While it's certainly a valid point, I can't help remember how long it took Adobe to build Flash 9 for Linux, after first stating that Flash 7 would be the last version available. I'm just as concerned with Flash10 support for non-Windows OSs as I am Silverlight support."
Adobe never stated that Flash 7 would be the last version available for Linux. Macromedia said that. Adobe didn't own Macromedia until after Flash 8 was released, as a matter of fact.
The very first version of flash Adobe released (flash 9) had an officially supported and VERY compatible, stable Linux port within months of the Windows release. I've never had problems with installing it, with sound, with sound-video synch, etc. The only problem I had with Flash 9 was that it stole all keyboard input on mouseover. I've heard that was fixed but I haven't bothered upgrading because I'm lazy.
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But if the parent was actually serious that makes it all the funnier. Before Napster, I'd bought 12 CDs over the course of 3 years. Within a year of using Napster, I'd bought 20. After 4 years of pirating music I'd bought 400 CDs.
I bought more music when I had the chance to decide if I liked the CD first... and I was happier with my purchases.
still has tons of stuff I don't care about. Stock information? Don't own any, and if I did I'd go to stock sites to check that out. News? Not interested - I just want to search the web.
A small added benefit of Google's simplicity is that it doesn't send me into epileptic seizures.
And I'm not even epileptic.
Yahoo's main page may tell me about all the shiny new things they have going on but _I_DON'T_CARE_. I just want to run a search. A "What's new?" link would be plenty - for when I actually care, which is 1% of the time max.
This sounds like a great reason for me not to ever get an expensive stereo. You just saved me some cash.
That is possibly the nerdiest joke I've ever heard... and it does not bode well that I not only got it but laughed at it a lot.
Your response to my original post was pretty irritating to me - my focus in the original post was simply that the MAFIAA tends to win a lot of cases (the infamous granny case, etc) because their victims don't understand how to defend themselves, and informed college students often do know how to defend themselves.
/. really needs a way to PM.
I should not have gotten angry simply because you didn't know the full story, and while it annoyed me that you assumed the worst (I didn't intend to imply that my activities were illegal, but that doesn't mean it didn't look that way to others), flaming back wasn't constructive. You may not have intended your post as flame, but that's how I perceived it.
Anyway you're probably someone I'd get along with in real life, but you saw the worst side of me and I saw the worst side of you - I'm burying the hatchet and I hope you do as well.
On the side,
There was no such implication, that's the part that earned you the derogatory name-calling part. And I wouldn't call it "name calling" as much as "name observing".
And since you asked, I was sharing divx encoded versions of movies my friend owned because he didn't know how to encode them but wanted to watch them on his old box that didn't have a DVD drive. They were encoded and shared expressly for him, and I deleted them once he downloaded them. I encoded them on my machine because it was much faster and was 64-bit so the time saved on encoding was worth the time spent transferring.
So there's plenty of reason for me to continue this conversation by writing back - you were not just wrong but damn wrong.
The assumption that any given sharing of media is illegal pirating is a very damaging one legally and economically. Congratulations, you just contributed.
Dumbass.
... couldn't resist.
It's not like they've done anything that hasn't been done before Yeah, since rape, murder, extortion, etc haven't ever been done before I can see why you make the exception.
you are so right. Hans's guilt or innocence has NOTHING to do with reiserfs.
... which equates to slander (at least by honest people, but not by the letter of the law).
They win continually by talking trash.
On top of that they are paying students at universities to advocate their stuff (I forget the name of the program, but I refused to be a part of it), and they pay untold crazy amounts of cash for positive marketing.
All Linux has to fight that with is to counter Microsoft's FUD (AKA talking trash, often misconstrued as disrespect) and advocate open source at the grass roots level.
Next time you see an open source zealot denouncing Microsoft or promoting open source, don't look at them as off base. They're not distorting fact any more than Microsoft's marketing team, they're just doing it for free because they believe in a cause. I don't see how a paid-for study or banner on a web site gives Microsoft any more credibility, but apparently many people think it does.
It comes as no surprise to me that companies with monopolies (Microsoft, MAFIAA) also equate citizen with consumer.
They try to get away with things like DRM because they figure everyone has to buy their stuff.
That'd be a useful FF extension - one that lets you set your browser agent to lie on specific sites. Then I could still report FF on most sites, but just IE on sites that needed it.
but that's because I use Pidgin or Trillian in Windows. Are you surprised that the Microsoft IM client opens IE regardless?
... is that Linux is actually a pretty critical strategic piece for companies like Adobe. Adobe's market is getting targeted aggressively by Microsoft. The very best way to steal as much of Microsoft's thunder as possible is to support alternative platforms with equal quality. Microsoft's only strategy, from the start, has been "vendor lock-in." If they want to use *software people actually care about* they have to do it on Windows.
The short sighted thing to do is write for the platform everyone else uses, but in the long term - when you find yourself as a primary target/enemy of the company your product relies on you have nobody to cry to. Writing only for Windows because that's the only platform that pays off at the moment will cause you to pay much more down the road. Adobe's finding that out now.
People like you need to understand that, from a business standpoint, worrying about this insanely strategic and important platform simply makes sense, but in the long term.
Spare me, dumbass. I never said the movie sharing was illegal or outside of "fair use."
We only talk about Vista when there's nothing more important to discuss.
"With all the animosity RIAA creates and contempt they have duly earned I would not be surprised if some people pirate just to spite RIAA."
I do. Then I send money to the artists I like. I'm not interested in ripping off the artists - just the bastards that are ripping off consumers. I'm quite willing to fight fire with fire in that case.
This reminds me of when I was in college and several classmates of mine and I received notices from the MPIAA for sharing movies on the Internet.
We laughed our asses off. If they took us to court we could do all sorts of things from claiming to have an unsecured wireless network to bringing up ip spoofing, to... you name it.
Prove I did it.
Well we have these logs with an IP address...
Yeah, but prove I did it.
I never got it in Windows, but I did see mention of it in the changelogs at penguin.swf as being fixed, so I'm lead to believe it was specific to the Linux version. Either way it's fixed so who cares anymore :-) Water under the bridge.
The difference is that since this has been in Adobe's hands we haven't seen terrible offense yet. I'm not saying we won't soon enough, but I'm saying we can't take Macromedia's bad rep and apply it to Adobe until Adobe gives us reason, and they haven't (yet).
"While it's certainly a valid point, I can't help remember how long it took Adobe to build Flash 9 for Linux, after first stating that Flash 7 would be the last version available. I'm just as concerned with Flash10 support for non-Windows OSs as I am Silverlight support."
Adobe never stated that Flash 7 would be the last version available for Linux. Macromedia said that. Adobe didn't own Macromedia until after Flash 8 was released, as a matter of fact.
The very first version of flash Adobe released (flash 9) had an officially supported and VERY compatible, stable Linux port within months of the Windows release. I've never had problems with installing it, with sound, with sound-video synch, etc. The only problem I had with Flash 9 was that it stole all keyboard input on mouseover. I've heard that was fixed but I haven't bothered upgrading because I'm lazy.
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