I want to believe gamers are being smart Me too, but I know they won't be. The only people I know that were actually excited about all the overpromise of Vista were gamers. They're just informed/involved enough to know what Vista is but just uninformed/uneducated enough to realize it's all lies and damnlies.
Speaking of which, I was at Best Buy the other day... just to amuse myself I asked the clerk if it was possible to get one of the computers there with XP. "No." Ok, how about with no OS at all? "No. Not possible." Even mail order? "Even mail order." Hm. I'm sure Microsoft's Vista sales are all due to people that really love and want their OS now.
So now I unplug the little "vista rules" kiosk every time I walk into a best buy. They never catch it till like a week later.:-)
Actually, despite some negative publicity that Twitter's been getting lately, I have yet to read one of his posts and really see it as overboard.
Disclaimer: he's on my friends list. He appeared there after I read enough of his posts that I really noticed I liked what he said. He did not appear there because I'm sleeping with his grandma or whatever.
And no, I'm not sleeping with his grandma, but I bet she's hot..... Ok I lied.
I just wanted to ssy... I called him an idiot first, and it was stupid and immature -hey I was drunk. Oops. Anyway, my immature taunt likely set him off and made him act differently than he normally would have. Giving him the benefit of the doubt here, and taking the blame:-)
Thanks for the backup though (not that I'm implying you intended to take my side or anything, don't get me wrong. No assumption made).
XP can do LIVE CD too. It all depends on packaging. Yep. BartPE - saved my ass a few times.
Why would I want a centralized place for ALL my apps? When one thing fails, they ALL fail. I'm sure you would be bitching if Microsoft did something like that just because it's Microsoft doing it. Nope, I'd be bitching because they've never acted in my interest and can't be trusted. There's that, you know. Also - there are debian repositories EVERYWHERE. It's not "one centralized place". Additionally might I add that all repositories are digitally signed, so you know what you're getting is what you asked for. You can't get that with Windows software you download off random website X. Microsoft apologists bitch time and time again about how the user doesn't want choie, they just want things to work - well there you have it: one place to get your software from. No need to google, download, open the program, click next a thousand times. My mom can install open office on the Ubuntu machine I gave her, she can't do it on the Windows machine. It may not be your preference, but it is a very good idea.
Linux has no "grassroot", *raises hand* You're telling that to part of the Linux grassroot. You'll have to pardon if I don't believe your telling me I don't exist.
Windows has the largest community of software and developers in the entire planet! Heck, in the entire solar system!...You love to lie, don't ya ? Um, duh. That would be the whole... monopoly thing. I hope you don't think you're pointing out something revolutionary here. I never claimed Windows didn't have the largest community of developers, so please don't call me a liar. I'm sure I've lied about plenty of other things in my lifetime, I don't need accusations about lies I definitely didn't tell.
I'm one of the few (less than 1%) of people with an IQ amount of probably two people's (like you) IQs put together. Oh I can tell:)
Your lack of knowledge screams from your entire post. Go read a book or two, it MIGHT help.
Read my lips again : YOU sir, are the idiot. It was actually really immature of me to call you an idiot - in my defense I was drunk. A poor excuse, but it's true. Anyway I guess I deserved the idiot jab.
In the mean time I'll take your advice on reading books so I can figure out how to leverage http's ability to redirect so an http-dependent protocol can be made redundant in case of failures or compromises, and how to deliver software in a signed, secure fashion through http to leverage that... oh wait, that'd be debian repositories. DAMN MY LACK OF KNOWLEGE.
that no price == no marketing department? Did it occur to you that marketing is the single greatest strength of any company or product in the US?
Time and time again I talk to people that hate windows but don't even know that alternatives exist at all... or my favorite: the people that heard (through some FUD or another) that "Linux doesn't support laptop hardware well". Then I give them an Ubuntu CD and they boot into a liveCD environment that supports their video, audio, wireless, ethernet, etc. out of the box. Sounds like someone's been lying.
XP can't even do that. They spend ages installing driver 1, reboot,install driver 2, reboot...
Then let's talk about getting Windows up to date. Download some updates, reboot, download others, reboot, download others, reboot, etc. Let's not even mention service packs if you have a pre SP1 or SP1 CD... those just take FOREVER and are quite annoying and complex to get working for an end user.
The alternative? Clicking "reload", "upgrade","apply" in synaptic. It happens ONCE, all the updates are automatically downloaded and applied for every program on your system as well as the core OS, and you reboot once. Once. Might I re-enforce there's no searching for where to download installers, etc. I'd also like to re-enforce that EVERY program, not just your kernel or shell (explorer.exe) gets updated. Your office suite, your image editor, everything. Oh, and no activation or WGA.
Most of the FUD around Microsoft is flat out lies and most of the hype behind Linux is also lies from the same people spreading anti Microsoft shit all over the Internet and the forums. So you complain that Linux has only grassroots - read: user - support and advertising. How was that hard to figure out? THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR PRODUCT IS FREE. That does not make it lies. Actually, what annoys me most is how people like you believe a lie just because it was paid for by a big company like Microsoft.
We have a term for people like you where I come from.
It sucks, but most bosses don't even know enough to realize that commodity hardware and software aren't perfectly sufficient for mission critical operations.
it wouldn't be too terribly hard to have the external Internet re-route around that datacenter. I HOPE Microsoft is keeping off-site backups of their WGA key databases and code repositories for the WGA server software, so if they are it would be pretty quick to set up other machines as emergency redundant WGA and temporarily reroute the original WGA IP addresses to those.
Once that's done, the terrorists have only the employees in the building as hostages - no more risk than any other building in the US at that point.
That's if Microsoft is keeping offsite backups of the WGA data and code. I doubt they do, so you may well be right.
Turns out we were both wrong. It's not "acute" nor is it "aigeu" - it's "aigue". And "ala" actually makes sense to a lot of people. That's why a lot of people spell it "ala". To the people that know better ("a la" or even better with the accent grave) it's a bastardization but even THEY know what the writer meant. We should relax about stuff like that.
I think a lot of what you say is right, but when you say WGA forums users "want to use Windows" you could be wrong in a lot of cases. A lot of them want to use their computer - whether it's running Windows or not - and many don't even know that there are alternatives out there.
Additionally, I know you all are looking for an explanation/root-cause. I will get that ASAP. Doubt it. 95% of people affected will just forget the issue once it's fixed, and they know it. Letting everyone know what they did wrong is not really their style, and really they'll probably just report the most acceptable answer they can think of.
We are aware it is a server-side issue SAY IT AINT SO!?!?!?
Yes, I left out the accent aigeu. No, I don't care how that's really spelled. Like it or not (I don't like it, but accept it), English is the Lingue Franca now... and it does not include an accent aigeu. Whine. Also, "a la" roughly translated means nothing close to "with". The best translation is "at the".
You'll have to get used to the lingue franca... English. It includes such "features" as missing the space and accent marks in "ala". Sorry. It's incorrect, I acknowledge, but it is the lingue franca and it's best just accepted.
Don't get me wrong - French is a beautiful language. If I saw its punctuation and grammar disregarded (unintentionally) in poetry or literature I would be pissed. But this is just simple discussion that happens to use a cliche (oops, forgot my accent aigeu again...) from French and does so inaccurately. It's nothing to get worked up about.
but just what is "x" in this case? I mean, it'd be ridiculous if it was 286 of course because we'd need protected mode and 32 bit support to be even remotely relevant to today's software market. Oh, and TFA mentions it running XP, so yeah definitely at least 386 (my uni currently had a project to get XP running on a 386 and it succeeded - naturally slow as crap). But there's still a pretty decent gap between 386 and 486, 486 and 5x86 (Pentiumish level), and each subsequent iteration.
I mean, 500 MHTZ with MMX and SSE 1, 2 and 3 is vastly different from 500 MHTZ with just 386 level support. Just look at how Athlons destroyed P4's with an even similar clock speed for another example of how MHTZ aren't a definitive measure. I'd like to know more about these CPUs when it comes to performance.
While I agree with your post I feel it's important to modify the statement:
'inability (read: apathy)' is editorializing. Which, fine, that happens on slashdot.
It happens EVERYWHERE. It's important to note that.
I'm one of those people that somehow magnetize everyone around them to come fix their computer. I've heard endless requests from family and friends to "change their computer to XP."
All through college there was a certain subset of my classmates that I labelled mentally as the "Microsofties." They were avid Microsoft and.NET fans but had never so much as used anything else, whined whenever they had to learn or use anything else (and often refused), tried to copy every assignment from someone else or get someone else to "help" them and hope they'll just do the assignment for them. They were terrible problem solvers, very stubborn, and I'll just say it not that bright.
I found out last week that 2 of the 5 or so of them are now working at Microsoft - I smiled. I wouldn't be surprised if the other 3 were too. You can keep them, Microsoft. Merry Christmas.
At my highschool they had honors courses for just about every subject. For the most part if you were in one honors course you were in them all, so the honors course kids would move in a great cluster from one class to the next down the halls.
What sucked about it was that for the most part the honors kids were smarter (less informed, but smarter) than the teachers, but far less mature. So some time around the middle of 10th grade the teachers had a lot of trouble keeping the honors students in line. They had all become socially interested in each other and were smart enough to manage to derail class every time so they could socialize more.
that nobody ever changed the world by saying "nothing ever changes". I wish Adobe well. I get annoyed to no end with Microsoft Office - and people pay a lot of money for that annoying pile.
Is this the embrace or extend step? It's a little of both. It's the extension of "web 2.0"ish AJAX, Java, and Flash-like things. It's the "embracement" of the linux port of their extension so I'd also call it embracement of Linux. It's also the embracement of rich web apps, which they denounced for years in favor of fat clients.
Extinguish comes after everyone that also embraces AJAX, Java, and Flash for rich web apps comes to rely on Microsoft's extension (Silverlight), after which Microsoft just... breaks compatibility with the browsers and OS's they want to extinguish.
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Speaking of which, I was at Best Buy the other day... just to amuse myself I asked the clerk if it was possible to get one of the computers there with XP. "No." Ok, how about with no OS at all? "No. Not possible." Even mail order? "Even mail order." Hm. I'm sure Microsoft's Vista sales are all due to people that really love and want their OS now.
So now I unplug the little "vista rules" kiosk every time I walk into a best buy. They never catch it till like a week later.
Actually, despite some negative publicity that Twitter's been getting lately, I have yet to read one of his posts and really see it as overboard.
Disclaimer: he's on my friends list. He appeared there after I read enough of his posts that I really noticed I liked what he said. He did not appear there because I'm sleeping with his grandma or whatever.
And no, I'm not sleeping with his grandma, but I bet she's hot..... Ok I lied.
I just wanted to ssy... I called him an idiot first, and it was stupid and immature -hey I was drunk. Oops. Anyway, my immature taunt likely set him off and made him act differently than he normally would have. Giving him the benefit of the doubt here, and taking the blame :-)
Thanks for the backup though (not that I'm implying you intended to take my side or anything, don't get me wrong. No assumption made).
Why would I want a centralized place for ALL my apps? When one thing fails, they ALL fail. I'm sure you would be bitching if Microsoft did something like that just because it's Microsoft doing it. Nope, I'd be bitching because they've never acted in my interest and can't be trusted. There's that, you know. Also - there are debian repositories EVERYWHERE. It's not "one centralized place". Additionally might I add that all repositories are digitally signed, so you know what you're getting is what you asked for. You can't get that with Windows software you download off random website X. Microsoft apologists bitch time and time again about how the user doesn't want choie, they just want things to work - well there you have it: one place to get your software from. No need to google, download, open the program, click next a thousand times. My mom can install open office on the Ubuntu machine I gave her, she can't do it on the Windows machine. It may not be your preference, but it is a very good idea.
Linux has no "grassroot", *raises hand* You're telling that to part of the Linux grassroot. You'll have to pardon if I don't believe your telling me I don't exist.
Windows has the largest community of software and developers in the entire planet! Heck, in the entire solar system!
I'm one of the few (less than 1%) of people with an IQ amount of probably two people's (like you) IQs put together. Oh I can tell
Your lack of knowledge screams from your entire post. Go read a book or two, it MIGHT help. Read my lips again : YOU sir, are the idiot. It was actually really immature of me to call you an idiot - in my defense I was drunk. A poor excuse, but it's true. Anyway I guess I deserved the idiot jab.
In the mean time I'll take your advice on reading books so I can figure out how to leverage http's ability to redirect so an http-dependent protocol can be made redundant in case of failures or compromises, and how to deliver software in a signed, secure fashion through http to leverage that... oh wait, that'd be debian repositories. DAMN MY LACK OF KNOWLEGE.
Time and time again I talk to people that hate windows but don't even know that alternatives exist at all... or my favorite: the people that heard (through some FUD or another) that "Linux doesn't support laptop hardware well". Then I give them an Ubuntu CD and they boot into a liveCD environment that supports their video, audio, wireless, ethernet, etc. out of the box. Sounds like someone's been lying.
XP can't even do that. They spend ages installing driver 1, reboot,install driver 2, reboot...
Then let's talk about getting Windows up to date. Download some updates, reboot, download others, reboot, download others, reboot, etc. Let's not even mention service packs if you have a pre SP1 or SP1 CD... those just take FOREVER and are quite annoying and complex to get working for an end user.
The alternative? Clicking "reload", "upgrade","apply" in synaptic. It happens ONCE, all the updates are automatically downloaded and applied for every program on your system as well as the core OS, and you reboot once. Once. Might I re-enforce there's no searching for where to download installers, etc. I'd also like to re-enforce that EVERY program, not just your kernel or shell (explorer.exe) gets updated. Your office suite, your image editor, everything. Oh, and no activation or WGA.
Most of the FUD around Microsoft is flat out lies and most of the hype behind Linux is also lies from the same people spreading anti Microsoft shit all over the Internet and the forums. So you complain that Linux has only grassroots - read: user - support and advertising. How was that hard to figure out? THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR PRODUCT IS FREE. That does not make it lies. Actually, what annoys me most is how people like you believe a lie just because it was paid for by a big company like Microsoft.
We have a term for people like you where I come from.
Idiots.
It sucks, but most bosses don't even know enough to realize that commodity hardware and software aren't perfectly sufficient for mission critical operations.
it wouldn't be too terribly hard to have the external Internet re-route around that datacenter. I HOPE Microsoft is keeping off-site backups of their WGA key databases and code repositories for the WGA server software, so if they are it would be pretty quick to set up other machines as emergency redundant WGA and temporarily reroute the original WGA IP addresses to those.
Once that's done, the terrorists have only the employees in the building as hostages - no more risk than any other building in the US at that point.
That's if Microsoft is keeping offsite backups of the WGA data and code. I doubt they do, so you may well be right.
http://home.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/tkura/linux/fra.pdf
Turns out we were both wrong. It's not "acute" nor is it "aigeu" - it's "aigue". And "ala" actually makes sense to a lot of people. That's why a lot of people spell it "ala". To the people that know better ("a la" or even better with the accent grave) it's a bastardization but even THEY know what the writer meant. We should relax about stuff like that.
I think a lot of what you say is right, but when you say WGA forums users "want to use Windows" you could be wrong in a lot of cases. A lot of them want to use their computer - whether it's running Windows or not - and many don't even know that there are alternatives out there.
Then you can get away with it just fine.
Sad.
True.
It's no end-all solution to all problems, but it's definitely a pretty incredible accomplishment and the perfect solution for a few. Thanks.
Yes, I left out the accent aigeu. No, I don't care how that's really spelled. Like it or not (I don't like it, but accept it), English is the Lingue Franca now... and it does not include an accent aigeu. Whine. Also, "a la" roughly translated means nothing close to "with". The best translation is "at the".
You'll have to get used to the lingue franca... English. It includes such "features" as missing the space and accent marks in "ala". Sorry. It's incorrect, I acknowledge, but it is the lingue franca and it's best just accepted.
Don't get me wrong - French is a beautiful language. If I saw its punctuation and grammar disregarded (unintentionally) in poetry or literature I would be pissed. But this is just simple discussion that happens to use a cliche (oops, forgot my accent aigeu again...) from French and does so inaccurately. It's nothing to get worked up about.
but just what is "x" in this case? I mean, it'd be ridiculous if it was 286 of course because we'd need protected mode and 32 bit support to be even remotely relevant to today's software market. Oh, and TFA mentions it running XP, so yeah definitely at least 386 (my uni currently had a project to get XP running on a 386 and it succeeded - naturally slow as crap). But there's still a pretty decent gap between 386 and 486, 486 and 5x86 (Pentiumish level), and each subsequent iteration.
I mean, 500 MHTZ with MMX and SSE 1, 2 and 3 is vastly different from 500 MHTZ with just 386 level support. Just look at how Athlons destroyed P4's with an even similar clock speed for another example of how MHTZ aren't a definitive measure. I'd like to know more about these CPUs when it comes to performance.
SAY IT AINT SO!
3. supposed to be "???" and 4. is supposed to be "profit!". Remember, this is /.
'inability (read: apathy)' is editorializing. Which, fine, that happens on slashdot.
It happens EVERYWHERE. It's important to note that.
I'm one of those people that somehow magnetize everyone around them to come fix their computer. I've heard endless requests from family and friends to "change their computer to XP."
All through college there was a certain subset of my classmates that I labelled mentally as the "Microsofties." They were avid Microsoft and .NET fans but had never so much as used anything else, whined whenever they had to learn or use anything else (and often refused), tried to copy every assignment from someone else or get someone else to "help" them and hope they'll just do the assignment for them. They were terrible problem solvers, very stubborn, and I'll just say it not that bright.
I found out last week that 2 of the 5 or so of them are now working at Microsoft - I smiled. I wouldn't be surprised if the other 3 were too. You can keep them, Microsoft. Merry Christmas.
"Thank you, Mr. Senator!!"
At my highschool they had honors courses for just about every subject. For the most part if you were in one honors course you were in them all, so the honors course kids would move in a great cluster from one class to the next down the halls.
What sucked about it was that for the most part the honors kids were smarter (less informed, but smarter) than the teachers, but far less mature. So some time around the middle of 10th grade the teachers had a lot of trouble keeping the honors students in line. They had all become socially interested in each other and were smart enough to manage to derail class every time so they could socialize more.
that nobody ever changed the world by saying "nothing ever changes". I wish Adobe well. I get annoyed to no end with Microsoft Office - and people pay a lot of money for that annoying pile.
... but what about a car analogy?
You can tunnel any protocol through SSH, so if FTP supports a feature they really need that SFTP doesn't, they can just tunnel it. Still no excuses.
Extinguish comes after everyone that also embraces AJAX, Java, and Flash for rich web apps comes to rely on Microsoft's extension (Silverlight), after which Microsoft just... breaks compatibility with the browsers and OS's they want to extinguish.
Voila.