Quote: Look, I'm not saying all kids are going to scream for joy and poop their pants at the site of a Ruby interpreter, but is there *really* anything the "Windows" kids will be missing out on by running Linux - even if it's just to give those few kids who would use it a chance to code?
Actually, they'd be missing out on Visual Studio Express. Honestly, VSE C# is the place I start people out on now. It's free, it's robust, it has a whole lotta library love, there's endless discussion about it freely available on the web, and it gets results easily.
What more do you want from a learning environment?
"Making a nice interface onto a backup system (Time Machine) - yes, great."
Actually, it looks like a merging of a backup system and a version control system. No mention was given to the amount of space it'll take up, or whether you can archive off its database, two variables which will ultimately determine whether this is a revolution in user friendliness, or the world's biggest gimmick.
Meanwhile, I'll continue to use Subversion as I have done for ages now: it's free, has rather comprehensive administration options, tracks the who of file operations, tracks only the operations I'm interested in (as opposed to Apple's tool guessing on what, file write? Deletions only?), is cross platform, has Tortoise to integrate it into every Open/Save dialog and Explorer window in windows, a nice easy to read log view, and is free.
"If you get too excited about what is supposed to be an incredibly amazing product you simply won't buy a new Apple this year."
Lesson learned: if you tease long enough, people WANT to believe you have something to show. At this rate, with the next release, they'll need to ship "Spin", an expectations manager widget, just to prevent loss of customers to fatal hyper ventilation.
Occam's suggests he just didn't have anything else to show, otherwise the other announcements would have been well enough to buoy them until they were ready to risk stealing food from their own mouths.
I knew we couldn't trust Woolsey. It would appear that the IOA have finally gotten their way: The Stargate program is moving to China!
Still, I suppose that's better than letting Bush call the shots. Despite the obvious benefit of him looking a bit Asgardish around the ears.
...at my desktop and nearly none of my work apps have Mac versions yet, or have declared any intent to provide such in future. Looks like I'm stuck in PC land for another few years at least. There are alternatives for some, but if I actually wanted to switch, I'd have done so already as all are available on the PC. For the rest there just plain isn't an alternative yet.
Currently looking at: 3D Studio Max Promotion IS Nitro dev tools ProDG A slew of inhouse tools, both old (MFC) and new (.Net+C#)
The inhouse tools are the big killer. It'd take us months just to get back up to speed.
I wonder how many professionals are faced with the same prospects? If there's any truth to the article, it's probably that now the Mac's traditional niches (dtp, photo/video/audio editing) are pretty much saturated, the main stream casual user is the likely next gain within reach.
The only thing missing now is gaming. That's still a mess on the Apple side, where it really oughtn't be. If I were Apple, I'd be courting devs and forcing open revenue streams to entice others. Publishers (the people who control all the cash) just have no incentive to try Apple now, and without publishers you have no way into distribution. A couple of years of heavy investment in starting up the iTunes equivalent of XBox Live Arcade would do wonders to Apple household uptake in the future, I reckon.
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Look, I'm not saying all kids are going to scream for joy and poop their pants at the site of a Ruby interpreter, but is there *really* anything the "Windows" kids will be missing out on by running Linux - even if it's just to give those few kids who would use it a chance to code?
Actually, they'd be missing out on Visual Studio Express. Honestly, VSE C# is the place I start people out on now. It's free, it's robust, it has a whole lotta library love, there's endless discussion about it freely available on the web, and it gets results easily.
What more do you want from a learning environment?
"Making a nice interface onto a backup system (Time Machine) - yes, great."
Actually, it looks like a merging of a backup system and a version control system. No mention was given to the amount of space it'll take up, or whether you can archive off its database, two variables which will ultimately determine whether this is a revolution in user friendliness, or the world's biggest gimmick.
Meanwhile, I'll continue to use Subversion as I have done for ages now: it's free, has rather comprehensive administration options, tracks the who of file operations, tracks only the operations I'm interested in (as opposed to Apple's tool guessing on what, file write? Deletions only?), is cross platform, has Tortoise to integrate it into every Open/Save dialog and Explorer window in windows, a nice easy to read log view, and is free.
"If you get too excited about what is supposed to be an incredibly amazing product you simply won't buy a new Apple this year." Lesson learned: if you tease long enough, people WANT to believe you have something to show. At this rate, with the next release, they'll need to ship "Spin", an expectations manager widget, just to prevent loss of customers to fatal hyper ventilation. Occam's suggests he just didn't have anything else to show, otherwise the other announcements would have been well enough to buoy them until they were ready to risk stealing food from their own mouths.
I knew we couldn't trust Woolsey. It would appear that the IOA have finally gotten their way: The Stargate program is moving to China! Still, I suppose that's better than letting Bush call the shots. Despite the obvious benefit of him looking a bit Asgardish around the ears.
...at my desktop and nearly none of my work apps have Mac versions yet, or have declared any intent to provide such in future. Looks like I'm stuck in PC land for another few years at least. There are alternatives for some, but if I actually wanted to switch, I'd have done so already as all are available on the PC. For the rest there just plain isn't an alternative yet.
Currently looking at:
3D Studio Max
Promotion
IS Nitro dev tools
ProDG
A slew of inhouse tools, both old (MFC) and new (.Net+C#)
The inhouse tools are the big killer. It'd take us months just to get back up to speed.
I wonder how many professionals are faced with the same prospects? If there's any truth to the article, it's probably that now the Mac's traditional niches (dtp, photo/video/audio editing) are pretty much saturated, the main stream casual user is the likely next gain within reach.
The only thing missing now is gaming. That's still a mess on the Apple side, where it really oughtn't be. If I were Apple, I'd be courting devs and forcing open revenue streams to entice others. Publishers (the people who control all the cash) just have no incentive to try Apple now, and without publishers you have no way into distribution. A couple of years of heavy investment in starting up the iTunes equivalent of XBox Live Arcade would do wonders to Apple household uptake in the future, I reckon.