When I go searchng for *NIX info, it looks more like arcana to me than Winfo ever does
I was really more saying that there was either a lack of info either in the form of symptoms to search on, like error codes, or what do to beyond "reinstall". I think part of it is Windows culture, when you call tech support "reinstall" is their typical answer (this deriving from the fact that they are ranked on call time). Part of it has to do with open source people having to do the support for their hobby and co-ordinate with others across a distance and so they put in a lot of error codes to help each other out.
If I do find an answer it's usually pretty easy to affect. I'll usually search for a half hour or so. But when it gets beyond that with no headway, I just would rather take the 3 hours to reinstall/patch (and that's just the time for stuff to dl/install. Actualy work into it takes maybe 10 minutes) than the unknown amount of time it would take to find the answer.
No, my distinction is based on the laws that have arisen in this country to protect consumers. It isn't illegal for Microsoft to have a desktop monopoly and it isn't illegal for Netscape to get a browser monopoly. But when microsoft leverages their OS monopoly to gain a browser monopoly, that is illegal. It is further illegal when they use their browser monopoly to boost their operating system sales by not supporting Windows 95.
I'm not accusing Netscape of altruism. I do believe that companies should be able to make their products the way they see fit, up until the point where they begin to dominate a market. If IE had a separate parent than the current operating system monopoly, then IE6 would support Win 95. I'm fairly certain when I say the next netscape will support win 95.
The difference, I've found, is that there are a more resources devoted towards fixing a problem on open source problems than there are on closed source ones (I make the destinction because I've found stuff to fix cygwin setups pretty easily). Most closed source apps you can't even get an error code, it just crashes. Open source ones often fail with a reason. This makes it easier to find the fix online. Try to figure out why windows is crashing and you'll be searching for a while.
I can fix my broken installs on linux without knowing what I'm doing. All I need to know is the URL for google. Windows has so much arcana that it is more difficult to work with in this way. It's just easier to reinstall.
There was one time when we had a huge rollout of a J2EE app that had a specific time it had to be out because the ad in the WSJ was going to be out at that time. The day before the rollout, the client called us up and told us that they had changed the URL in the add to point to their main domain (the comms between us and them was very crappy). We tried going through the config files for iPlanet to switch it to the new domain name, but something wasn't working (we were grepping for the old domain and not getting anything, but it still would do absolute redirects to the old domain). I looked at our admin and said "How long would it take to reinstall everything" "3 hours" (he knew well since he had done it 4 times prior). "How long do you think it will take us to figure out how to switch this over" "It could take all night". He knew what I was getting at.
This was on a solaris box with a Netscape-Sun Alliance product, but it underlines the issue. The fact is that I have tried to admin my Windows boxes the way I admin my linux box. I've been adminning windows at home way longer than linux (I came from 3.1, whereas I've only used linux at my job for 2 1/2 years and at home for 1 1/2). But it's a big f'ing wall. My wife had a problem where outlook express would crash in some DLL. Uninstall/reinstall OE: it would work for a week and then start again. Use the recovery CD to reinstall windows: it worked for a month and started crashing again. Result: wipe and install windows xp. Now OE works fine, but IE6 sends an error report or 2 daily and it couldn't be on the same workgroup as our roomie's Win 95 machine for some reason unknown to the troubleshooter.
At least I have backup scripts on my linux box that will effortlessly backup everything on the other machine.
So, no. It really isn't anything like fixing a wonked Linux box.
I guess that's why no one would (or could?) tell me how to get back into my late RedHat setup after it arbitrarily decided it no longer knew my login password?
Boot to single user mode (at lilo append "single" to the kernel name. If that doesn't work there are alternatives
The difference being that the nonstandard features in IE are there to protect their operating system monopoly. Case in point: you can't install IE6 on Win95. This is a way to force an upgrade to get newer features (even standards based ones), but still have your nonstandard application run.
Netscape has no such motivations so their extensions act in a more benign fashion: giving more power to the users and developers instead of locking them into a separate purchase.
I'll make another prediction: people will start switching back to Netscape slowly but surely. The reason? You can't install IE6 on Win 95. That's a pretty large install base to just cut off like that. New features will go into Gecko and run on 95. Business will switch back and thus people at home will switch back.
Giving money isn't expression protected under the constitution. There are many laws that limit how you can use your money (FTC laws for chairpersons are one example. Funding terrorists is another example (PATRIOT Act)).
The parent post was talking about corporations being given the same rights as people. There's no constitutional basis for that. Sure, a sole owner of LLC should be able to since those aren't separate entities but instead actualy individuals. The question still remains, even if you think that individuals should be limited in their contributions, why shouldn't corporations?
Why does every workstation need remote maintenance?
I can see the benefit of adding ssh to some workstations, but not enough to make it part of the default install. I too find my ssh access to my home machine beneficial (although it's a headless server), but I don't blame debian for having me go in and install it.
intensive math can be still done in C, but the app itself done in perl or Java. The same thing goes for the calls to mmap(), sendfile() etc. There is no real reason to do the majority of a program in C anymore except "I know C and I don't know those languages".
Blah. Nevermind. This one is way more recent (didn't watch where I was). It still lists it at 3rd, but says "qmail now accounts for more addresses than Exchange, and almost as many as all Microsoft SMTP products" although I don't understand why it lumped Exchange and IIS SMTP together to make it 2nd.
While this is true for some movies. Special effects bonanzas will better be seen on a big screen. But I got a 0 day copy of American Pie and possibly because of that I never saw it in the theater. I certainly stopped wanting to see it theatrically. (This is kind of a bad example since I later bought it on VHS, and AP2 on DVD)
Of course it doesn't even matter if only 2/10 make their money back in toto, as long as those 2 movies make enough money to offset the other failures. There no right to a sucessful project. I'd love the see the senator's reaction to me saying only 1/10 companies we wine and dine will pay for those expenses by giving us a project. The shock!
I don't. We have shelters for these people. In the majority of cities, people aren't on the streets because they have to be, it's because they want to be. Part of wanting to be there is because they can make money (crappy money, but money still) and bum cigarettes on the street (one street kid who was a friend of mine would actually only bum cigarettes. Smokers are very used to giving a cig away free. He would then sell the cigs to other street peeps for 25c/cig. He was actually making a better-than-welfare salary off this).
People say they couldn't afford photoshop so they pirate it, but they are depriving other companies (like jasc) of profit.
+1: Insightful
I was just going to post that, but while waiting for the 20 seconds I realized something: the corollary is that it's a competitive advantage to Photoshop for people to share their product. It weaken their competitor both by staving them of cash and keeping their brand strong. Imaging if people had to pay for their software: they woul dbuy the cheaper Jasc that fits their needs and then tell their friends that that fit their needs.
Actually, it's quit common for companies to lay off 90% of the staff and then survive. It's the ones that lay off 30%, then are running out of cash, so another 20%, then run through more cash around, so maybe another 30%, then a few moneth later the financials are still bad, then another 20%. Now their at ~30% of their original force and they finally run out of cash and funding.
Big cuts like this are usually what a company needs to survive.
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Actually, she signed her name to someone else's opinion, which was the parent poster's point.
True. Then again, it's hard to enjoy your house when you're dead due to inferior medical care.
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When I go searchng for *NIX info, it looks more like arcana to me than Winfo ever does
I was really more saying that there was either a lack of info either in the form of symptoms to search on, like error codes, or what do to beyond "reinstall". I think part of it is Windows culture, when you call tech support "reinstall" is their typical answer (this deriving from the fact that they are ranked on call time). Part of it has to do with open source people having to do the support for their hobby and co-ordinate with others across a distance and so they put in a lot of error codes to help each other out.
If I do find an answer it's usually pretty easy to affect. I'll usually search for a half hour or so. But when it gets beyond that with no headway, I just would rather take the 3 hours to reinstall/patch (and that's just the time for stuff to dl/install. Actualy work into it takes maybe 10 minutes) than the unknown amount of time it would take to find the answer.
No, my distinction is based on the laws that have arisen in this country to protect consumers. It isn't illegal for Microsoft to have a desktop monopoly and it isn't illegal for Netscape to get a browser monopoly. But when microsoft leverages their OS monopoly to gain a browser monopoly, that is illegal. It is further illegal when they use their browser monopoly to boost their operating system sales by not supporting Windows 95.
I'm not accusing Netscape of altruism. I do believe that companies should be able to make their products the way they see fit, up until the point where they begin to dominate a market. If IE had a separate parent than the current operating system monopoly, then IE6 would support Win 95. I'm fairly certain when I say the next netscape will support win 95.
The difference, I've found, is that there are a more resources devoted towards fixing a problem on open source problems than there are on closed source ones (I make the destinction because I've found stuff to fix cygwin setups pretty easily). Most closed source apps you can't even get an error code, it just crashes. Open source ones often fail with a reason. This makes it easier to find the fix online. Try to figure out why windows is crashing and you'll be searching for a while.
I can fix my broken installs on linux without knowing what I'm doing. All I need to know is the URL for google. Windows has so much arcana that it is more difficult to work with in this way. It's just easier to reinstall.
There was one time when we had a huge rollout of a J2EE app that had a specific time it had to be out because the ad in the WSJ was going to be out at that time. The day before the rollout, the client called us up and told us that they had changed the URL in the add to point to their main domain (the comms between us and them was very crappy). We tried going through the config files for iPlanet to switch it to the new domain name, but something wasn't working (we were grepping for the old domain and not getting anything, but it still would do absolute redirects to the old domain). I looked at our admin and said "How long would it take to reinstall everything" "3 hours" (he knew well since he had done it 4 times prior). "How long do you think it will take us to figure out how to switch this over" "It could take all night". He knew what I was getting at.
This was on a solaris box with a Netscape-Sun Alliance product, but it underlines the issue. The fact is that I have tried to admin my Windows boxes the way I admin my linux box. I've been adminning windows at home way longer than linux (I came from 3.1, whereas I've only used linux at my job for 2 1/2 years and at home for 1 1/2). But it's a big f'ing wall. My wife had a problem where outlook express would crash in some DLL. Uninstall/reinstall OE: it would work for a week and then start again. Use the recovery CD to reinstall windows: it worked for a month and started crashing again. Result: wipe and install windows xp. Now OE works fine, but IE6 sends an error report or 2 daily and it couldn't be on the same workgroup as our roomie's Win 95 machine for some reason unknown to the troubleshooter.
At least I have backup scripts on my linux box that will effortlessly backup everything on the other machine.
So, no. It really isn't anything like fixing a wonked Linux box.
I guess that's why no one would (or could?) tell me how to get back into my late RedHat setup after it arbitrarily decided it no longer knew my login password?
Boot to single user mode (at lilo append "single" to the kernel name. If that doesn't work there are alternatives
Then use passwd
The difference being that the nonstandard features in IE are there to protect their operating system monopoly. Case in point: you can't install IE6 on Win95. This is a way to force an upgrade to get newer features (even standards based ones), but still have your nonstandard application run.
Netscape has no such motivations so their extensions act in a more benign fashion: giving more power to the users and developers instead of locking them into a separate purchase.
I'll make another prediction: people will start switching back to Netscape slowly but surely. The reason? You can't install IE6 on Win 95. That's a pretty large install base to just cut off like that. New features will go into Gecko and run on 95. Business will switch back and thus people at home will switch back.
Thus the smiley.
: )
Ok, but that isn't a workstation, obviously.
Did you even read this comment? Allow me to show you the relevant posting time --
03:25 PM
I even posted it at +1 making it more visible.
: )
Giving money isn't expression protected under the constitution. There are many laws that limit how you can use your money (FTC laws for chairpersons are one example. Funding terrorists is another example (PATRIOT Act)).
The parent post was talking about corporations being given the same rights as people. There's no constitutional basis for that. Sure, a sole owner of LLC should be able to since those aren't separate entities but instead actualy individuals. The question still remains, even if you think that individuals should be limited in their contributions, why shouldn't corporations?
Why do we all fight so hard for ElcomSoft's rights?
To stregnthen the previous responder: the way the U.S. justice system work is that when a right is lost for one person, it is lost for everybody.
Why does every workstation need remote maintenance?
I can see the benefit of adding ssh to some workstations, but not enough to make it part of the default install. I too find my ssh access to my home machine beneficial (although it's a headless server), but I don't blame debian for having me go in and install it.
intensive math can be still done in C, but the app itself done in perl or Java. The same thing goes for the calls to mmap(), sendfile() etc. There is no real reason to do the majority of a program in C anymore except "I know C and I don't know those languages".
Blah. Nevermind. This one is way more recent (didn't watch where I was). It still lists it at 3rd, but says
"qmail now accounts for more addresses than Exchange, and almost as many as all Microsoft SMTP products" although I don't understand why it lumped Exchange and IIS SMTP together to make it 2nd.
How are you getting that? This page seems to place it 24th (removing "Unknowns").
While this is true for some movies. Special effects bonanzas will better be seen on a big screen. But I got a 0 day copy of American Pie and possibly because of that I never saw it in the theater. I certainly stopped wanting to see it theatrically. (This is kind of a bad example since I later bought it on VHS, and AP2 on DVD)
Of course it doesn't even matter if only 2/10 make their money back in toto, as long as those 2 movies make enough money to offset the other failures. There no right to a sucessful project. I'd love the see the senator's reaction to me saying only 1/10 companies we wine and dine will pay for those expenses by giving us a project. The shock!
I, for one, like the ads. If it weren't for them, I would miss the beginning of every movie my wife and I go to see.
You've just gotta focus on the positive, 'cuz positive's the way you aughtta be.
I don't. We have shelters for these people. In the majority of cities, people aren't on the streets because they have to be, it's because they want to be. Part of wanting to be there is because they can make money (crappy money, but money still) and bum cigarettes on the street (one street kid who was a friend of mine would actually only bum cigarettes. Smokers are very used to giving a cig away free. He would then sell the cigs to other street peeps for 25c/cig. He was actually making a better-than-welfare salary off this).
People say they couldn't afford
photoshop so they pirate it, but they are depriving other companies (like jasc) of profit.
+1: Insightful
I was just going to post that, but while waiting for the 20 seconds I realized something: the corollary is that it's a competitive advantage to Photoshop for people to share their product. It weaken their competitor both by staving them of cash and keeping their brand strong. Imaging if people had to pay for their software: they woul dbuy the cheaper Jasc that fits their needs and then tell their friends that that fit their needs.
Actually, it's quit common for companies to lay off 90% of the staff and then survive. It's the ones that lay off 30%, then are running out of cash, so another 20%, then run through more cash around, so maybe another 30%, then a few moneth later the financials are still bad, then another 20%. Now their at ~30% of their original force and they finally run out of cash and funding.
Big cuts like this are usually what a company needs to survive.
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