Hell, there cannot be nothing Linuzzz related these days without people bitching about licenses, crying foul about competence and screaming GLPv54 or something similar... No wonder normal people avoid this as the plague.
OK, so they are offering Linuzzz gratis in that laptop. You cannot get cheaper. And they are offering Windows cheap (not gratis). By logic, what are they fearing then? maybe they are fearing that even if the Linuzzz alternative IS cheaper, the users (and goverments= will prefer the more expensive solution anyway (less problems, more compatibility, etc).
Competition is always welcomed, or so says everyone here.
Anti-competiton is competition, looked from the other side. Who is the competition and who the anticompetition: pepsi Zero or Coke Black? BigMac or Supermax? Linuzz or Windows?... In this case the initiative was not from the MS camp, so the negroponte's camp had the "monopoly" (a oh, so loved word here) or the solo position in this project. They are getting a fair competition which will lead to a better final result (for the consumer). Or is it only OK when MS gets competition but not OK when they are competting? I know this is/. and I shouldn't expect anything else, but double moral much?
Here in Slashdot everybody's motto is "competition is good". So THIS is competition. People should forget now about politics and be actually happy that the children of the poor contries will actually be the winners here.
You know, people are happy when MS gets competition but they often forget that competition comes also FROM MS, so Negroponte just need to shutup and taste his own medicine.
... Maybe he DID see that move comming and planned this "sacrifice" for the greater check mate in the future... Strategy was his strong side in chess after all.
Oh I do, believe me. I have seen even the last Iranian films that are so criticaly praised everywhere. And I like them as well. But this year I have enjoyed films so diferents like "Superman returns", "The rise of the sun" (russian), "Zodiac", "Harry potter and the order of Phoenix", "tHE lotus" (chinese), "Shrek 3", "Lista de espera" (cuban), "Pan's labyrint" (Mexican-Spanish) and everyone of them was a likable in some way
The problem is: Lucas created StarWars as homage to his favorite files from childhood: Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and those matin'ee films. I also like very much those files just the way I like Superman comics. it's about the atmosphere of genuine naivity: those are just modern fairy tales based in a future time. As a fairy tale, we need just to enjoy (or not) the films.
Well, Flash Gordon was pure cheese, and ilogical, and the screenplay (or lack of) was very lite. So why a homage to those films need to be serious in some way? Why people would expect SW to be the new Godfather I'll never underatnd. I rather see SW as a new Flash Gordon or tarzan film... It is what it is and lucas can be a bad director, or bad writer, but he know what he wants and he delivered what he always promised.
I have always been a big fan of StarWars. I liked the filmd from the first time I saw them back in 1977 (yes, I'm that old). I liked the original trilogy and I enjoyed very much the new one.
My secret? I just relax and enjoy the ride. I know that this is not MY story, not MY movie but the vision of GL (good or bad). Even today I enjoy reading fairy tales to my son. And inmensly enjoy Pinoccio, Sleeping beaty , etc, and I'm not trying to search the explanation of why the she woke up with the princes kiss... Accpt it: it just happened so.
With the new trilogy I had NO EXPECTATIONS whatsoever. Yes, the episode 1 was sometimes silly whith tehe kid, but I like it. Midiclorians? The force? No diference to me. The could introduce the "infinite Delphian gravity cloack" and I would have accepted it. Jar jar? Silly but OK, as a silly sidekick can be.. The effects where great in my opinion and adeded a lot to the atmosphere.
People bitch as well with any new chapter of a sequel: Harry potter, StarTreck, Lost, you name it. Me? I enjoy the ride . And like them all? I'm I stupid? maybe, but hey, I have double fun.
Nice try Sherlock. The problem is, I'm an old timer from my FORTRAN days on old *nix terminals AND now work with Solaris and Abble OSX everyday (as a consultant), but how is THAT hard to understand that there ARE actually perfectly intelligent people that can like Windows?
That's why my signature states that I'm proud.
In/. it seems to be a shame to say that you like (even some parts) of Windows. Even when people say that they use Windows (or Office, or whatever MS product), people need to add (because my works makes me use it... or because my mom wanted help...) . It's time to make NO apologies. people should like what they like, be it Windows, Linuzzzz, Abbles OS, BeOs whatever. I don't need to explain why i like to drive a Nissan or to listen to Bruce Dickinson or to eat mushrooms. I like and admire (yes, NO APLOLOGIES) Windows. And what?
Is not that article a dupe (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/18/188235&from=rss) ?? Or don't our dear editors even read old articles in their dispair of bashing Vista?
In our university we have now completed the upgrate of 25 computer classrooms (35 computer each) from XP to Vista. At the moment, there havebeen no major problems. yes, the system has some problems and child diseases (like Abbles leopard) but that's just natural. Vista is a big step forwars security wise and it will get more and more polished with time.
But hey, please feel free to continue bashing... I don't want to spoil the party for you. Me? I'll continue using it.
I listen to what I like, be it from RIIA , alternative or from my out of tune neighbour... And no, I will not let the politics affect my life in that way. No way I'll miss the next Iron Maiden DVD just because their record company is part of the RIIA, the Vatican or the Holy Spirit.
If I don't like the politics from some party, coorporation, economical or religious group, I try to find a way to protest without affecting my life. Imagine if I would veto everything I dislike. I wouldn't drive a car (oil producing country often suck major dictatures), eat meat (poor cows), miss a manowar record (Riia), drink a beer (alcohol monopoly in sweden). etc...
But hey, don't let my rants discorage you to listen to what you want...
Hmm.. I often don't feed the trolls, and you may get moderated insightful, but... what a GOOD thing that Linuzzz is actually getting to the point where it is more or less usable by the "average joe" like you say.
If you are one of those "real men use the command line" , why don't you take a larger step and made your self a punch card computer and program it using binary cards? Now THAT is hardcore...
While you do that, let us, the rest of that inferiour race, use whatever system we wanr, be it Ubuntu Linuzz , Abble OS or MS Windows, or whatever... Yes, we are inferior and not "real men", but hey, I do my work that way, and I'm very happy, believe me, with being a "second class citizen".
Well, guess waht? Until now everybody including the researcher that found the bug though that the generator was Ok. So if nowbody had found the bug, everything would be fine and dandy even today. That's why it took 7 years. No bug discovered, no problem.
Or you really think that there are no sleeping bugs somewhere in the Linuzzz kernel or in Abbles OS that are 5 or 10 years old? When somebody discovers that there is indeed a bug, it may get fixed, but you have no right to bitch about a 10 years old unfixed bug if nobody knew it existed. (not that anybody would bitch about a Linuzzz or Abble's bug here in/., but MS is different, it seems to me).
FOSS is no better and not wors than closed source:
* quality wise, both may have (and have) problems.
* There are fantastic OS and not OS programs
* There are failures in OS and closed source arena
* 92% of the Sourceforge products stagnate in tehit own inactivity. You hear about the success but not about the MILLIONS of OS failures.
* It is a myth the superiority of OS because everybody can fix the source by theyself. Yes, this can be done, but few do it. And doing it doesn't guarantee that millions of users will automagically apply the changes.
The major (and only) difference is idiological. And it's politically correct to say that OS is cool, but I don't care for ideologies. Show me a good soft and I will use and promote it, be it OS or not.
That's why this is not so bad. You get the "Do you really want to run...?' dialog, so the user knows that something is going on. On older systems the system would just directly run the exe.
Actually, this is not news. Those of you who are/wee usual visitors of WaReZ sites or WareZ engines like astalavista.com will know that this kind of "ads" have out there working for years now. The difference is that now it seems like respetable sites are hosting them directly or indirectly via some ad provider.
BTW these ads are not directly dangerous unless you are running on some old browser/old Windows system, but yes, they are annoying as hell.
44% where considering leaving Windows. One of the causes was " as well as compatibility with the business software that would need to run on Vista"... And they won't have compatibility issues in Linuzzz or Abble OSs... ?
OTOH, what stability problems they are talking about? I wonder how many of those people have really used Vista. Let me se... none of them?
I was talking to my uncle (who doesn't even know what byte is) and I mentioned Vista. The first thing he said: "Vista? is not' that the bad one? You can't even delete files with it!"... "have you used it?, I replied..."have you tried to delete a file on it?" "nah.. said he.."I am using W98 and won't upgrade to that crap"... oh well... That's the situation of the non-technical people these days. They just repeat things ad nauseum without even trying to think by theyselves. Thats understable, but when people on SLASHDOT (who are, I think, often technically oriented people, repeat every single lie without even caring to investigate the issues... well THAT is sad.
The problem was not the garbage collector if you read TFA. The articule is just a shameless plug, some ad spam for some very obscure profile.
This just tells us once again that our wonderful editors on/. don't even try to understand what's behind an article, but they just find some sensationalistic title (the more AntiMS, the better) and done. This results in more comments of the type... "See, M$ id teh SuCkS", or "thanks god for my Linuzzz."..., so they got more profit for their/. ads (oh, the irony often MS ads, BTW).
Yellow press..... yes, I know,/. is not supposed to have any credibility like any other parasite news sites, but anyway....
We are seeing the conversion of many ex serious IT sites to simple yellow press. Nowdays you only need one half-factoid to start a rain of speculation and pseudo-conspiratorical theories. Oh... and you only nned one site to start it. hen you will get a thousand of other repeaters who, just without an appice of self-criticism will just brainlessly repeat the whole thing... and add some more.
And often, the reality is just easier and more mundane....
Here we go again... Why should I? In my department we use Windows and we have no need to replace it. if you have a good It team who secures the OS, there should be minimal risks. A well configured XP or 2003 can be as secure as any other OS.
OTOH a bad secured Linuzzz, can be as insecure and any other...
So why just begin from the beginning with a new OS, new applications, emulatiosn, etc if the well configured real thing does the job?
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Well, parent writes the same humorours article but abbout "never do wrong" apple.. and gess what? Parent get moderated flamebait... Go figure....
* It will be named iMail (duh)
* It would tell you that you need to sign for .mak to use it (duh)
* It would have only one button (which would do ant function, receive, send, attach)
* It would be that "kool and pretty"(TM) that instead on a mail site you,d though that you are in teletubby land with silver colors
* It would have iPhone compatibility but forget about the other players
* It would save "It just works" even when you have no ineternet connection
* When some problems arise, they would , of course , blame MS.
* Everybody on /. would praise it even if they limited it to 1 MB/month amd send the letters DRMed :-)
Hell, there cannot be nothing Linuzzz related these days without people bitching about licenses, crying foul about competence and screaming GLPv54 or something similar... No wonder normal people avoid this as the plague.
Competition is always welcomed, or so says everyone here.
Anti-competiton is competition, looked from the other side. Who is the competition and who the anticompetition: pepsi Zero or Coke Black? BigMac or Supermax? Linuzz or Windows?... In this case the initiative was not from the MS camp, so the negroponte's camp had the "monopoly" (a oh, so loved word here) or the solo position in this project. They are getting a fair competition which will lead to a better final result (for the consumer). Or is it only OK when MS gets competition but not OK when they are competting? I know this is /. and I shouldn't expect anything else, but double moral much?
You know, people are happy when MS gets competition but they often forget that competition comes also FROM MS, so Negroponte just need to shutup and taste his own medicine.
... Maybe he DID see that move comming and planned this "sacrifice" for the greater check mate in the future... Strategy was his strong side in chess after all.
Yes, I have quadruple fun, thank you very much!
Well, Flash Gordon was pure cheese, and ilogical, and the screenplay (or lack of) was very lite. So why a homage to those films need to be serious in some way? Why people would expect SW to be the new Godfather I'll never underatnd. I rather see SW as a new Flash Gordon or tarzan film... It is what it is and lucas can be a bad director, or bad writer, but he know what he wants and he delivered what he always promised.
My secret? I just relax and enjoy the ride. I know that this is not MY story, not MY movie but the vision of GL (good or bad). Even today I enjoy reading fairy tales to my son. And inmensly enjoy Pinoccio, Sleeping beaty , etc, and I'm not trying to search the explanation of why the she woke up with the princes kiss... Accpt it: it just happened so.
With the new trilogy I had NO EXPECTATIONS whatsoever. Yes, the episode 1 was sometimes silly whith tehe kid, but I like it. Midiclorians? The force? No diference to me. The could introduce the "infinite Delphian gravity cloack" and I would have accepted it. Jar jar? Silly but OK, as a silly sidekick can be.. The effects where great in my opinion and adeded a lot to the atmosphere.
People bitch as well with any new chapter of a sequel: Harry potter, StarTreck, Lost, you name it. Me? I enjoy the ride . And like them all? I'm I stupid? maybe, but hey, I have double fun.
That's why my signature states that I'm proud.
In /. it seems to be a shame to say that you like (even some parts) of Windows. Even when people say that they use Windows (or Office, or whatever MS product), people need to add (because my works makes me use it... or because my mom wanted help...) . It's time to make NO apologies. people should like what they like, be it Windows, Linuzzzz, Abbles OS, BeOs whatever. I don't need to explain why i like to drive a Nissan or to listen to Bruce Dickinson or to eat mushrooms. I like and admire (yes, NO APLOLOGIES) Windows. And what?
In our university we have now completed the upgrate of 25 computer classrooms (35 computer each) from XP to Vista. At the moment, there havebeen no major problems. yes, the system has some problems and child diseases (like Abbles leopard) but that's just natural. Vista is a big step forwars security wise and it will get more and more polished with time.
But hey, please feel free to continue bashing... I don't want to spoil the party for you. Me? I'll continue using it.
If I don't like the politics from some party, coorporation, economical or religious group, I try to find a way to protest without affecting my life. Imagine if I would veto everything I dislike. I wouldn't drive a car (oil producing country often suck major dictatures), eat meat (poor cows), miss a manowar record (Riia), drink a beer (alcohol monopoly in sweden). etc...
But hey, don't let my rants discorage you to listen to what you want...
If you are one of those "real men use the command line" , why don't you take a larger step and made your self a punch card computer and program it using binary cards? Now THAT is hardcore...
While you do that, let us, the rest of that inferiour race, use whatever system we wanr, be it Ubuntu Linuzz , Abble OS or MS Windows, or whatever... Yes, we are inferior and not "real men", but hey, I do my work that way, and I'm very happy, believe me, with being a "second class citizen".
Hmm... so if somebody writes M$ that makes him obviously a troll? OK, so 5/6 of the posts here are trolls then if you are right.
Or you really think that there are no sleeping bugs somewhere in the Linuzzz kernel or in Abbles OS that are 5 or 10 years old? When somebody discovers that there is indeed a bug, it may get fixed, but you have no right to bitch about a 10 years old unfixed bug if nobody knew it existed. (not that anybody would bitch about a Linuzzz or Abble's bug here in /., but MS is different, it seems to me).
* quality wise, both may have (and have) problems.
* There are fantastic OS and not OS programs
* There are failures in OS and closed source arena
* 92% of the Sourceforge products stagnate in tehit own inactivity. You hear about the success but not about the MILLIONS of OS failures.
* It is a myth the superiority of OS because everybody can fix the source by theyself. Yes, this can be done, but few do it. And doing it doesn't guarantee that millions of users will automagically apply the changes.
The major (and only) difference is idiological. And it's politically correct to say that OS is cool, but I don't care for ideologies. Show me a good soft and I will use and promote it, be it OS or not.
That's why this is not so bad. You get the "Do you really want to run...?' dialog, so the user knows that something is going on. On older systems the system would just directly run the exe.
BTW these ads are not directly dangerous unless you are running on some old browser/old Windows system, but yes, they are annoying as hell.
44% where considering leaving Windows. One of the causes was " as well as compatibility with the business software that would need to run on Vista"... And they won't have compatibility issues in Linuzzz or Abble OSs... ?
OTOH, what stability problems they are talking about? I wonder how many of those people have really used Vista. Let me se... none of them?
I was talking to my uncle (who doesn't even know what byte is) and I mentioned Vista. The first thing he said: "Vista? is not' that the bad one? You can't even delete files with it!"... "have you used it?, I replied..."have you tried to delete a file on it?" "nah.. said he.."I am using W98 and won't upgrade to that crap"... oh well... That's the situation of the non-technical people these days. They just repeat things ad nauseum without even trying to think by theyselves. Thats understable, but when people on SLASHDOT (who are, I think, often technically oriented people, repeat every single lie without even caring to investigate the issues... well THAT is sad.
Really, I though that the new millenium was Abbles Leopard...
This just tells us once again that our wonderful editors on /. don't even try to understand what's behind an article, but they just find some sensationalistic title (the more AntiMS, the better) and done. This results in more comments of the type... "See, M$ id teh SuCkS", or "thanks god for my Linuzzz."..., so they got more profit for their /. ads (oh, the irony often MS ads, BTW).
Yellow press..... yes, I know, /. is not supposed to have any credibility like any other parasite news sites, but anyway....
And often, the reality is just easier and more mundane....
That was extremly OT. I am saying that we are extremely happy with Windows. Again, please, why should we migrate?
OTOH a bad secured Linuzzz, can be as insecure and any other...
So why just begin from the beginning with a new OS, new applications, emulatiosn, etc if the well configured real thing does the job?