On the first you are more optimistic than reality.
No three signatures were needed as there were no copiers for public use.
On the second you are more pessimistic than reality. USSR and some of its successors have a long tradition of scientific and technical knowledge. Don't forget this.
On the third you make a quite pessimistic mistake. Comparing USSR or the US with China in scientific terms is the same as to compare a mamonth to two rabbits. China has a tradition in Science that goes for more than 3000 years. Yes, they are different than our "traditional Science", yes they are stucked in their regimes and traditions, yes they are now on the back train. But this does not change the fact that they are as wise as us if not more. Besides "copying" is not a measure of backwardness. Everyone copies each other. Yes USSR was a master on copying and stealing technologies but let's remember that the US have a B1 that is damnly similar to the Tu strategic bombers, whose prototypes appeared a decade before the american one.
If we keep going than we will remember that some of the main technologies in modern chips have a Russian root and it is not by coincidence that some Intel projects are lead by some former chiefs of soviet computing labs.
Yes, Russia did some sound scandal by stealing the Atomic Bomb from the US. However, one should note that without the local scientists these secrets would be useless. Note that Russians did not steal the whole bomb but where specially concerned with the detonators. In the end they came with a modified version of the american design.
However this is nothing comparable to what we, the Europeans and ancesters of a good part of the Americans, did to China. Hey people, we STOLE the secret of powder from them... Silly? Stupid? Well, in the Middle Age that was the Atomic Bomb.
Rarely a nation can be considered as a commiter of a crime. So I consider you naming "Chechen" someone guilty of rape gives already a level of how biased you are. The only equivalence one may take, is with the Republic of Chechnya, that was turned into a safe heaven for criminals. So I name the "chechen" groups, and not the Chechen nation.
I cannot understand your reference on Russians for someone advertising a site, with clear muslim marks... And, besides, which talks about Jihad. Jihad cannot be against a nation.
On what concerns censorship and mis-information then it is a prerrogative of every state. Unfortunately they cannot live with it. No matter it is Russia, the US, the EU, China, the Republic of Ichkeria or anyone else.
On what concerns the facts I testified. They are what I lived and overlived for nearly a year among people related to the Republic of Ichkeria. They are not to be cited as a game of who's right or wrong. I don't play games with the suffering of people, as I directly testified too many times for the death and suffering of millions on Earth. For evaluating the wrongs or rights of such events there are courts. Public forums are not a place to judge such things. Specially when they are political or pro-political ones.
Anyway, this personal testimony is what gives me the right to name "Chechens" as a nation with the right to self-determination and to name those, who destroyed this dream, as criminals and bandits with lots of self-esteem and bravado. Hope, one day, this nation will be wiser on choosing their leaders and capable of holding them from doing silly actions.
In any case I started to compare FBI to "chechen" groups not for "evidences". I used it to show where I see spectacular parallels in the nature of the actions taken to lure people. It's my opinion and it is an opinion based on an harsh experience. If you have another opinion let it be. But don't level MY opinion as a justification of YOUR opinion as they are diametrally different. In such case beware, as I am not easy with people playing words...
However, what ever crimes have been committed in Chechnya by chechens has nothing to do with what has happened in this case.
This does not change the nature of the method used to lure people. It is clear on the article that these guys were invited to US with the high probability to commit a supposed crime. According to the article: "asked the men to demonstrate their prowess on a computer outfitted with ?sniffer? software to record every keystroke".
Here there were criminals stealing monies and resources from US citizens. The US ask for help from the Russian government, who did not even respond.
BS. Pure BS. You think that FBI phones MVD and no one takes up the phone? There are several of such cases hapenning in Russia and there were already tens of arrests. Besides not only against credit card fraud but also against child pornography. Curiously I noted that the arrests were mainly done with european police forces. US police forces seemed to be missing in most arrest stories here. Now I start thinking why this happens...
The rights extended to non-US citizen by the US far exceed those extended by many other countries including Russia.
Give me a break a? One does not need to live in the US to see how double standarded is your system. You even don't have foreigners but only "aliens". Let's remember that some state of yours sent a german killer to the electric chair for a few deaths and you made a whole mess when some american citizen gets capital punishment for transporting drugs.
On what concerns Russia you haven't seen what saw. I saw people going directly against laws and rules to help foreigners to avoid returning to their countries. as most of these people may suffer persecutions or have their country in shambles. Now I would remind that I have now two friends in the US who are forced to leave soon because their visa expired. No matter that their country is on fire...
I personally feel these two got just what they deserve. They will have plenty of opportunity to defend themself in court.
Well dear American citizens, and what can I say of this guy? A court is only a court if it is located in the US? And did they really got what they deserve? The crime was commited in the other side of the globe. Was expertise preformed? Criminal experts, interviews, analysis? Maybe this guys are only "executors". Mercenaries burned in a "descent mission" to Invita, Seattle. Excuse me dear American citizens but your co-citizen is just the typical portrait of your American Fat-Colestherol patriots...
I have one last observation. Either, you have a very small vocabulary or are not very well educated. The prolific use of vulgar words to make a completely idiotic argument does not lend anything to your credibility.
My vocabulary is not perfect as I am not a WASP, BASP or any other kind of freak. But for such an educated jerk like you, it goes as far as your mind may understand. And i am not chasing credibility. I don't need that shit. I stated only and only my OWN fucking opinion.
Excuse me people, but correct if I'm wrong. For several years I heard that "all are equal in front of the law" and, with exception of intelligence agencies, everyone else was bound to follow the law by the book. And, for years, I heard that in the US this was a sacred rule. So sacred that you made tons of serials and films about it...
Now, it seems that law enforcement has more rights to overcome the law?
he takes the risk of venerating those same "terrorists" he so despises
then I'm not overreacting. There is nothing to venerate on those animals. And note: a large part of these "freedom fighters" are no ethnical chechens. It is just scum gathered from all ex-USSR, mainly from Caucasus, and which found a hot seat in Chechnya at the beginning of the 90's. On what concerns Chechens themselves then I know some of them, who are great people and have nothing in common with these swines that are even unable to read the Al-Khoran.
Have you seen them you dude? Have you talked with them? Have you dealed with them? Have they dealed with you?
No? So what the fuck are you talking about? I saw people being threatened, beaten and nearly killed. By these same so called "chechens", "freedom fighters" and "independentists". I saw what they wanted to do out of Russia you jerk because I had to deal with these bastards out of Chechnya before the war came. I saw only extortion, explotation, rape, and brute violance that reached cutting fingers and stabbing people. I had to save people from their hands and even save myself. So you sucker don't talk to me about Chechnya.
On what concerns what I despise then I despise because it HAPPENED in front of me and WITH me, you motherfucker.
Ok, so they brought them to the U.S., told them to log into their computers in Russia, sniffed the passwords, and then used the sniffed passwords to log into the Russian machines. This is hacking? Social engineering, maybe...
If this happened than FBI can happily know that it violated article 272, part 2 of chapter 28 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The article claims setences starting from 500 minimal salaries (about US$4000) and up to 5 years of detention. Note that this considers only the fact of illegally accessing a computer.
On what concerns the arguments about local police doing nothing against criminal hackers then I can state this is pure BS. In fact in every major Russian city there is now a special department called 'Direction "R"' that fights computer crimes. Maybe the guys are not as effective as FBI "bright minds". But still is amazing to see how FBI treats their colleagues.
More interesting is that Chelyabinsk is one of the later military centers in Russia. So I believe that if police is sleeping there (Direction R is a police force) than the ex-KGB is surely not sleeping. And I believe that even the most corrupt FSB general would not leave these guys in the fresh air. People are now fucking sensitive to such things after a few major break-ups in Moscow and other cities.
So I can take only one conclusion from FBI's actions: bravado.
What's next? SEALs landing in some Mokrovka village to catch a small group of teenagers playing a cracked Xbox?
You know this method reminds me how "chechen" groups sometimes lured people. I know it because I had a few acknowledgements being lured this way before the 1st Chechen War (1994-1996).
In Russia this is consider as the same as kidnapping. I think the FBI has done it because not even the average citizen will understand this. So you US Government Fuckers how better you are than those terrorist groups in Chechnya? How can you talk about human rights if you act the same way as bandits, terrorists and outlaws? Have these guys commited a crime? Maybe. Anyway it is a economic felony which barely touch people's physical well-being. But now their crime is pointless because you committed a bigger crime, you kidnapped people against their will in a foreign sovereign country. You lured people, invited to commit a crime and got them incarcerated. The typical move of "chechen" terrorists and mobs.
You disrespect local laws and rules and you what us to hear you? Go Fuck! Next time the US Government will talk about Human Rights in Russia they can pick the paper and stuck it in their ass. The sound will be more hearable than their voice.
The company is making an option and not turning fields. One can use either Linux or NetBSD. If anyone reads the article then it will clear read this. And I think this is great. A company is giving its customers the option of choosing the OS it may fit their needs. No many companies can do this as such thing demands some supplementary effort for development and maintenance. It's a pitty how/. reacted to it.
It seems people there fought so long against M$ that they are becoming M$ themselves: "If you aren't exactly in our side then you are another enemy..."
There is a program distributed in open source called OpenUniverse. It is interesting that the NASA stuff has a visual a bit similar to that program. However I'm not so sure that OpenUniverse is as accurate as NASA's one. The program seems to work in several *NIX platforms and Windows.
On a related front did you get a load of the suits on the news yesterday, from Disney who actually said that paying TV and movie writers any more than they get now could destroy the entire industry and imperil the US's place at the top of the entertainment food chain.
Changing "US's place" for "Holywood's place" and I think you clearly set your position... Let's remind that US's film industry also suffers a lot due to the golden spot of a small LA downtown...
According to underground whispers and urban legends that's already broken on DeskStar... Simple logical engineering game with some commands. Demanding knowledge - an average technician having some knowledge on HD architecture and the listing of commands on DeskStar controller.
I think people still didn't realise what is killing the soft. Lack of funds? No. Lack of support? Either. Lack of users? Of course not!
It's lack of care that is killing the soft. You don't care for the future. You don't plan. You don't see. You are a selfish boom waiting for the next piece of soft. If any one is killing the soft then it is 90% of you people for being too lame to help.
Linux was a movement. It was born of hundreds of thousands helping each other. So it progressed with no big needs for cash exchanges. It was a pure barter market. Today this movement was caught by corporations and millions of users. Corporations expect to make money, users expect that someone offers them the next "hot" product. That is how the movement was transvestited. Today Linux is an hybrid between its originality and the "classical" market. So it is dying due to its internal contradictions. And no one is caring to help. No one cares to suit the old and new conditions. No one is beating his head to find general mechanisms to save the system.
Is there anyone that will make the next chapter of the "Cathedral & The Bazaar"? Better to write it soon or the computer market will turn into eXPired cans...
Although it is difficult for many of us to see things, such as The Lord, the fact is that after some proper imagination and hard work, anything is possible.
You made a Hell of an interesting point. Exactly a Hell of it. As there is a WHOLE set of testimonies of visions of Hell. And a few ones of Heaven. Now wouldn't be interesting to MODEL them? Maybe they would help some people to see what is waiting them.... And help morale 'round here on Earth.
Anyway that's not for me. I, like every old Hacker who lived the end of the XXth century, will go to Heaven...
"Ok my son, you are in Heaven, what do you wish?"
"Infinite munition/all weapons... God Mode... and send me to HELL!!!!"
Will this information now be available to all under the FOIA?
Surely!
ID: 03412341242424/01/AB
Name: Joe Doe
Date of birth: 1/1/70
Place of birth: Littletown in Littlestate
Comments
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XXX approaches XXXXXXXX
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pedophilic XXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX sex XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXX fight XXX
kids XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXX support XXXXXXXXX
sado-masochism XXXXXXXX
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XXXXXX violence XXXXXXX
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personality XXXXXXXXXXX
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quite worrysome XXXXXXX
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XXXXXXX disagreement XX
XXXXXXXXXXXX society XX
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XXXX outcasts.
This is a mere rough extrapolation. But what this guy may look like? Sincerly I saw a few FOIA papers that frequently leave a very dubious meaning of the original text.
Sorry people but I couldn't avoid it... It maybe due to last night's film (in Russia there is a wave of old cowboy films on TV).
While reading the article it came a vision. The judge sets the sentence, all good citizens rise with hopes to see the following trials, BG stays on his chair looking down... Suddenly an old bearded man comes up, rises a rope in his hands, and cries:
"And why the Hell we have to wait for another trial? Let's finish this business now!"
What I see here is probably some point of what may be wrong with our community.
Most of us are here and expect. Expect that programs are made, expect that bugs are fixed, expect that tools come out to the market.
This is wrong.
We should not expect. We should also participate. Ok, not everyone, nearly anyone has experience with programming or administration or whatever. But sincerly it is better to give a lamer's report of something wrong rather than expecting that the author will guess that something is wrong. I found a few cases when some general error was not reported because everyone expected omeone else to report it... So let's be a little more active ok?
On what concerns such ventures as the one we see here. They need money. Isn't anyone ready to help them? If there will be a mechanism to support these guys I will give my money. Even if I am in Russia. Little but more than nothing. I would help these guys develope this card and even sell it to me. There were such cases in the wild past. One such case happened almost at the same time when Linux was created. Some engineer colected money and technical recomendations to design a sound card. Ok one may ask why I should pay for it if i already invested on it. But there are the production costs and marketing and everything else. You may not pay for the whole price but still help these guys making a great product.
People, let's not expect that corps or investors will care for such ventures. They won't. 90% of them are worried more about finances, money and profit, rather then on the creation of a new technical wonder. It is correct that this wonder should also prove it's worth to market. But that is a risk that we should take into ourselves. If we want to create an independent, autonomous and self-sufficient industry, capable to support and protect our values, we should start to risk money. I believe that this is a risky but honourable venture. And I believe that those who are in the critical sectors of our industry should start thinking about this. This will be something like those merchants who gathered together to build ships and secure their cargos. Note that these ventures, these "corporations" were the basis from which a certain United States of America was created... I am not American and I do see in a very critical view the USA. But still it was a great venture and a great step for Mankind what was done.
It was only a bunch of merchants who started such thing. We are just a bunch of users.
First let us note that what Clarke projected in 2010 already happened in 2001. I mean Russia and US working together. Curiously Russia also sent into the Pacific its Space hallmark in 2001. Curiously Mir and ISS were devised nearly at the same time when 2001 came out.
Oh, yeah. And we do are in Jupiter. But the ship is named Galilei, its design is nearly as old as 2001 and there is not crew or HAL on it. And it carries a crippled antenna and a broken recorder. And its computer nearly reaches the intelligence of a PC at the beginning of the 90's. Anyway, no matter the huge efforts, it didn't find that piece of black rock around Jupiter.
Do you use SETI. You don't? Run for it and you get all your dreams realised!
The day we get a signal from Cosmos we naturally will start building bigger guns, make some more nuclear weapon research and smoke more tobbaco as Earth is a paranoidal hospice that fears any stranger and gets panicked on every ununderstandable event...
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Here we see one thing that/. lacks and refuses to accept: an editorial board. Yes, editorial boards are bad as they are a base for censorship, trade-offs, mob headlines, Pentagon infos and TASS statements...
But having the lack of an editorial board is no better than having a bad one. And besides/. is not obliged to have an editorial board in the traditional sense of the word. I think/. team could think on something original... As usual... and you are good on this.
Really I'm only waiting for the moment X when someone says "enough is enough", sues Rob down to the socks and lows Cmd Taco to deliver boy of tacos/pizzas... One day that will happen.
I am not talking about perfections dear Sir. I'm talking about a society that valued some freedoms. However tis society started to trade these freedoms for a more confortable and easy life. By selling, renting and lending information uppon which one may influence personal lifes. That's the point I make. Your freedom today in the US may be in the balance of the level of your self-conscience as citizens and your desires as consumers.
Excuse me your optimism but such trade-off is mainly seen in America.
And what concerns "comfortable"... Mr. All Correct, I'm an european. In several european languanges "m" only appears in front of of two consonants: "p" or "b". And usually the root "confort" is what I may use more frequently in the languages I know. Anyway, sorry for trashing the english language with my barbaric continentalisms.
Ok people. You have been warned. You are being warned. And you will be being warned for a while.
However I doubt that 80% of you will care for this. Because Passport eases your lives. Because you don't have to remember, write on your hand or repeatedly type lots and lots of info about you, your family and something else. Of course you think that you can pass over it, that your freedoms will never be endangered. And maybe you think your children can pass through it too. Maybe even your nephews, grandsons and grand-grandsons may also pass it through... But that day may happen when some John Doe Jr Jr Jr will realise that he has nothing more than his body as ownership. And maybe he will not even have the right to own it.
You may think that these small underminings of civil rights are an easy price to pay. In late Roman Empire there was also a similar process that lasted nearly 200 years. It was the formation of what became known as latifunds, large pieces of land belonging to one person. That was also the base for the creation of feudalism and the beginning of the Middle Age. People offered by little their freedom for the protection of their belongings. There are several examples of this early process of feudalisation in letters from what is now Romania, France, Spain and Austria. Besides the protectors basically were not our "analphabet, rough, barbars" of History books but usually proeminent figures of the Empire, usually military ones. It were they who laid the foundation for the New Order. It were they who destroyed the last remains of Rome and wiped completely the cultural basis of that time. There is a certain Boecius who wrote a little about this exactly on the last years of Rome.
Why I am telling about this. Because you are doing a similar thing. You are giving away your rights, your identity, your ownership for the ease of a click. And a day may come when you can only get these things back if someone allows you to click. Or else you are nothing, a dropout, an alien, an abortion thrown over the sideways of the Information Highway.
You had one guy that loved too much to play with funny inventions. I believe that God gave him a chance not getting fried because he was also a big thinker. And once he warned that if someone gives a little bit of his freedom for security he has no right for being free. Confort is somehow also a bit of security. We should note that Mr. Franklin spoke about freedom in the society of very rich people who exactly care about confort as a part of their security. Today a larger segment of Americans can feel a little bit more of it. So remember that crazy founding father of yours. He was also a genius of Philosophy.
Oooooooh. I forgot, you Americans fell quite DISCONFORTABLE with Philosophy...
And what? We just recently saw a few civilians playing with a BIG NUKE SUBMARINE for a miserble amount of money... The result was seen all over the world.
And note, Tito is a ex-NASA man. Maybe he is quite far from piloting ships. But he is an insider anyway...
What is happening with Denis Tito is, from my point of view "unthinkable". And American citizen, who worked for years in America's Space Program. A man who managed to become a "self-made-man", one of those so publicized values of America. A man who wanted to fulfill a dream and tries, as a typical son of his country to achieve it. He doesn't find a chance in his country to do it so he comes here and pays big money for it. And then NASA starts a weird campaign. First it issues worries all over about Mir's state. Ok, Russians agree with them, sunk Mir and transfer Tito into one of their missions on ISS. And what we get here? Suddenly Russia is a bad partner, it takes unilateral decisions, it blows up the Space Program and puts in cause the security of ISS...
No Russian Agency as ever asked about the competency of the American astronauts sent to Mir. No one has ever asked anyone else about the competency of scientists or even military personel that was sent on Shuttles, Soyuz, Salyuts, or Mirs, ISSs and similars. Russia has even sent politicians to Space (there was one Mr. Baturin, an ex-minister btw). Not counting that it had to deal with biologists, doctors and several other people who barely know anything about a spaceship.
And suddenly it comes one Mr. Tito and everything blows up... In face of NASA's past this is an afrontation to everyone who remembers the Challenger. Who is NASA to value to dangers and chances for civilians? Who is NASA to question Russia's experience.
Intersting to see NASA acting as a typical soviet ministry...
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On the first you are more optimistic than reality.
No three signatures were needed as there were no copiers for public use.
On the second you are more pessimistic than reality. USSR and some of its successors have a long tradition of scientific and technical knowledge. Don't forget this.
On the third you make a quite pessimistic mistake. Comparing USSR or the US with China in scientific terms is the same as to compare a mamonth to two rabbits. China has a tradition in Science that goes for more than 3000 years. Yes, they are different than our "traditional Science", yes they are stucked in their regimes and traditions, yes they are now on the back train. But this does not change the fact that they are as wise as us if not more. Besides "copying" is not a measure of backwardness. Everyone copies each other. Yes USSR was a master on copying and stealing technologies but let's remember that the US have a B1 that is damnly similar to the Tu strategic bombers, whose prototypes appeared a decade before the american one.
If we keep going than we will remember that some of the main technologies in modern chips have a Russian root and it is not by coincidence that some Intel projects are lead by some former chiefs of soviet computing labs.
Yes, Russia did some sound scandal by stealing the Atomic Bomb from the US. However, one should note that without the local scientists these secrets would be useless. Note that Russians did not steal the whole bomb but where specially concerned with the detonators. In the end they came with a modified version of the american design.
However this is nothing comparable to what we, the Europeans and ancesters of a good part of the Americans, did to China. Hey people, we STOLE the secret of powder from them... Silly? Stupid? Well, in the Middle Age that was the Atomic Bomb.
So China is only doing the usual business...
Rarely a nation can be considered as a commiter of a crime. So I consider you naming "Chechen" someone guilty of rape gives already a level of how biased you are. The only equivalence one may take, is with the Republic of Chechnya, that was turned into a safe heaven for criminals. So I name the "chechen" groups, and not the Chechen nation.
I cannot understand your reference on Russians for someone advertising a site, with clear muslim marks... And, besides, which talks about Jihad. Jihad cannot be against a nation.
On what concerns censorship and mis-information then it is a prerrogative of every state. Unfortunately they cannot live with it. No matter it is Russia, the US, the EU, China, the Republic of Ichkeria or anyone else.
On what concerns the facts I testified. They are what I lived and overlived for nearly a year among people related to the Republic of Ichkeria. They are not to be cited as a game of who's right or wrong. I don't play games with the suffering of people, as I directly testified too many times for the death and suffering of millions on Earth. For evaluating the wrongs or rights of such events there are courts. Public forums are not a place to judge such things. Specially when they are political or pro-political ones.
Anyway, this personal testimony is what gives me the right to name "Chechens" as a nation with the right to self-determination and to name those, who destroyed this dream, as criminals and bandits with lots of self-esteem and bravado. Hope, one day, this nation will be wiser on choosing their leaders and capable of holding them from doing silly actions.
In any case I started to compare FBI to "chechen" groups not for "evidences". I used it to show where I see spectacular parallels in the nature of the actions taken to lure people. It's my opinion and it is an opinion based on an harsh experience. If you have another opinion let it be. But don't level MY opinion as a justification of YOUR opinion as they are diametrally different. In such case beware, as I am not easy with people playing words...
Anyway, Peace.
However, what ever crimes have been committed in Chechnya by chechens has nothing to do with what has happened in this case.
This does not change the nature of the method used to lure people. It is clear on the article that these guys were invited to US with the high probability to commit a supposed crime. According to the article: "asked the men to demonstrate their prowess on a computer outfitted with ?sniffer? software to record every keystroke".
Here there were criminals stealing monies and resources from US citizens. The US ask for help from the Russian government, who did not even respond.
BS. Pure BS. You think that FBI phones MVD and no one takes up the phone? There are several of such cases hapenning in Russia and there were already tens of arrests. Besides not only against credit card fraud but also against child pornography. Curiously I noted that the arrests were mainly done with european police forces. US police forces seemed to be missing in most arrest stories here. Now I start thinking why this happens...
The rights extended to non-US citizen by the US far exceed those extended by many other countries including Russia.
Give me a break a? One does not need to live in the US to see how double standarded is your system. You even don't have foreigners but only "aliens". Let's remember that some state of yours sent a german killer to the electric chair for a few deaths and you made a whole mess when some american citizen gets capital punishment for transporting drugs.
On what concerns Russia you haven't seen what saw. I saw people going directly against laws and rules to help foreigners to avoid returning to their countries. as most of these people may suffer persecutions or have their country in shambles. Now I would remind that I have now two friends in the US who are forced to leave soon because their visa expired. No matter that their country is on fire...
I personally feel these two got just what they deserve. They will have plenty of opportunity to defend themself in court.
Well dear American citizens, and what can I say of this guy? A court is only a court if it is located in the US? And did they really got what they deserve? The crime was commited in the other side of the globe. Was expertise preformed? Criminal experts, interviews, analysis? Maybe this guys are only "executors". Mercenaries burned in a "descent mission" to Invita, Seattle. Excuse me dear American citizens but your co-citizen is just the typical portrait of your American Fat-Colestherol patriots...
I have one last observation. Either, you have a very small vocabulary or are not very well educated. The prolific use of vulgar words to make a completely idiotic argument does not lend anything to your credibility.
My vocabulary is not perfect as I am not a WASP, BASP or any other kind of freak. But for such an educated jerk like you, it goes as far as your mind may understand. And i am not chasing credibility. I don't need that shit. I stated only and only my OWN fucking opinion.
Excuse me people, but correct if I'm wrong. For several years I heard that "all are equal in front of the law" and, with exception of intelligence agencies, everyone else was bound to follow the law by the book. And, for years, I heard that in the US this was a sacred rule. So sacred that you made tons of serials and films about it...
Now, it seems that law enforcement has more rights to overcome the law?
If I clearly understand this:
he takes the risk of venerating those same "terrorists" he so despises
then I'm not overreacting. There is nothing to venerate on those animals. And note: a large part of these "freedom fighters" are no ethnical chechens. It is just scum gathered from all ex-USSR, mainly from Caucasus, and which found a hot seat in Chechnya at the beginning of the 90's. On what concerns Chechens themselves then I know some of them, who are great people and have nothing in common with these swines that are even unable to read the Al-Khoran.
Have you seen them you dude? Have you talked with them? Have you dealed with them? Have they dealed with you?
No? So what the fuck are you talking about? I saw people being threatened, beaten and nearly killed. By these same so called "chechens", "freedom fighters" and "independentists". I saw what they wanted to do out of Russia you jerk because I had to deal with these bastards out of Chechnya before the war came. I saw only extortion, explotation, rape, and brute violance that reached cutting fingers and stabbing people. I had to save people from their hands and even save myself. So you sucker don't talk to me about Chechnya.
On what concerns what I despise then I despise because it HAPPENED in front of me and WITH me, you motherfucker.
Ok, so they brought them to the U.S., told them to log into their computers in Russia, sniffed the passwords, and then used the sniffed passwords to log into the Russian machines. This is hacking? Social engineering, maybe...
If this happened than FBI can happily know that it violated article 272, part 2 of chapter 28 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The article claims setences starting from 500 minimal salaries (about US$4000) and up to 5 years of detention. Note that this considers only the fact of illegally accessing a computer.
On what concerns the arguments about local police doing nothing against criminal hackers then I can state this is pure BS. In fact in every major Russian city there is now a special department called 'Direction "R"' that fights computer crimes. Maybe the guys are not as effective as FBI "bright minds". But still is amazing to see how FBI treats their colleagues.
More interesting is that Chelyabinsk is one of the later military centers in Russia. So I believe that if police is sleeping there (Direction R is a police force) than the ex-KGB is surely not sleeping. And I believe that even the most corrupt FSB general would not leave these guys in the fresh air. People are now fucking sensitive to such things after a few major break-ups in Moscow and other cities.
So I can take only one conclusion from FBI's actions: bravado.
What's next? SEALs landing in some Mokrovka village to catch a small group of teenagers playing a cracked Xbox?
You know this method reminds me how "chechen" groups sometimes lured people. I know it because I had a few acknowledgements being lured this way before the 1st Chechen War (1994-1996).
In Russia this is consider as the same as kidnapping. I think the FBI has done it because not even the average citizen will understand this. So you US Government Fuckers how better you are than those terrorist groups in Chechnya? How can you talk about human rights if you act the same way as bandits, terrorists and outlaws? Have these guys commited a crime? Maybe. Anyway it is a economic felony which barely touch people's physical well-being. But now their crime is pointless because you committed a bigger crime, you kidnapped people against their will in a foreign sovereign country. You lured people, invited to commit a crime and got them incarcerated. The typical move of "chechen" terrorists and mobs.
You disrespect local laws and rules and you what us to hear you? Go Fuck! Next time the US Government will talk about Human Rights in Russia they can pick the paper and stuck it in their ass. The sound will be more hearable than their voice.
The company is making an option and not turning fields. One can use either Linux or NetBSD. If anyone reads the article then it will clear read this. And I think this is great. A company is giving its customers the option of choosing the OS it may fit their needs. No many companies can do this as such thing demands some supplementary effort for development and maintenance. It's a pitty how /. reacted to it.
It seems people there fought so long against M$ that they are becoming M$ themselves: "If you aren't exactly in our side then you are another enemy..."
There is a program distributed in open source called OpenUniverse. It is interesting that the NASA stuff has a visual a bit similar to that program. However I'm not so sure that OpenUniverse is as accurate as NASA's one. The program seems to work in several *NIX platforms and Windows.
On a related front did you get a load of the suits on the news yesterday, from Disney who actually said that paying TV and movie writers any more than they get now could destroy the entire industry and imperil the US's place at the top of the entertainment food chain.
Changing "US's place" for "Holywood's place" and I think you clearly set your position... Let's remind that US's film industry also suffers a lot due to the golden spot of a small LA downtown...
According to underground whispers and urban legends that's already broken on DeskStar... Simple logical engineering game with some commands. Demanding knowledge - an average technician having some knowledge on HD architecture and the listing of commands on DeskStar controller.
I don't know about TravelStar.
I think people still didn't realise what is killing the soft. Lack of funds? No. Lack of support? Either. Lack of users? Of course not!
It's lack of care that is killing the soft. You don't care for the future. You don't plan. You don't see. You are a selfish boom waiting for the next piece of soft. If any one is killing the soft then it is 90% of you people for being too lame to help.
Linux was a movement. It was born of hundreds of thousands helping each other. So it progressed with no big needs for cash exchanges. It was a pure barter market. Today this movement was caught by corporations and millions of users. Corporations expect to make money, users expect that someone offers them the next "hot" product. That is how the movement was transvestited. Today Linux is an hybrid between its originality and the "classical" market. So it is dying due to its internal contradictions. And no one is caring to help. No one cares to suit the old and new conditions. No one is beating his head to find general mechanisms to save the system.
Is there anyone that will make the next chapter of the "Cathedral & The Bazaar"? Better to write it soon or the computer market will turn into eXPired cans...
Although it is difficult for many of us to see things, such as The Lord, the fact is that after some proper imagination and hard work, anything is possible.
You made a Hell of an interesting point. Exactly a Hell of it. As there is a WHOLE set of testimonies of visions of Hell. And a few ones of Heaven. Now wouldn't be interesting to MODEL them? Maybe they would help some people to see what is waiting them.... And help morale 'round here on Earth.
Anyway that's not for me. I, like every old Hacker who lived the end of the XXth century, will go to Heaven...
"Ok my son, you are in Heaven, what do you wish?"
"Infinite munition/all weapons... God Mode... and send me to HELL!!!!"
Will this information now be available to all under the FOIA?
Surely!
ID: 03412341242424/01/AB
Name: Joe Doe
Date of birth: 1/1/70
Place of birth: Littletown in Littlestate
Comments
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XXXX protest XXXXXXXXXX
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XXX approaches XXXXXXXX
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pedophilic XXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXX sex XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXX fight XXX
kids XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXX support XXXXXXXXX
sado-masochism XXXXXXXX
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XXXXXX violence XXXXXXX
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personality XXXXXXXXXXX
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quite worrysome XXXXXXX
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XXXXXXX disagreement XX
XXXXXXXXXXXX society XX
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XXXX outcasts.
This is a mere rough extrapolation. But what this guy may look like? Sincerly I saw a few FOIA papers that frequently leave a very dubious meaning of the original text.
Sorry people but I couldn't avoid it... It maybe due to last night's film (in Russia there is a wave of old cowboy films on TV).
While reading the article it came a vision. The judge sets the sentence, all good citizens rise with hopes to see the following trials, BG stays on his chair looking down... Suddenly an old bearded man comes up, rises a rope in his hands, and cries:
"And why the Hell we have to wait for another trial? Let's finish this business now!"
It would not solve so much for the case. The problem with Idrema is not creating new boxes. It is creating a new box.
What I see here is probably some point of what may be wrong with our community.
Most of us are here and expect. Expect that programs are made, expect that bugs are fixed, expect that tools come out to the market.
This is wrong.
We should not expect. We should also participate. Ok, not everyone, nearly anyone has experience with programming or administration or whatever. But sincerly it is better to give a lamer's report of something wrong rather than expecting that the author will guess that something is wrong. I found a few cases when some general error was not reported because everyone expected omeone else to report it... So let's be a little more active ok?
On what concerns such ventures as the one we see here. They need money. Isn't anyone ready to help them? If there will be a mechanism to support these guys I will give my money. Even if I am in Russia. Little but more than nothing. I would help these guys develope this card and even sell it to me. There were such cases in the wild past. One such case happened almost at the same time when Linux was created. Some engineer colected money and technical recomendations to design a sound card. Ok one may ask why I should pay for it if i already invested on it. But there are the production costs and marketing and everything else. You may not pay for the whole price but still help these guys making a great product.
People, let's not expect that corps or investors will care for such ventures. They won't. 90% of them are worried more about finances, money and profit, rather then on the creation of a new technical wonder. It is correct that this wonder should also prove it's worth to market. But that is a risk that we should take into ourselves. If we want to create an independent, autonomous and self-sufficient industry, capable to support and protect our values, we should start to risk money. I believe that this is a risky but honourable venture. And I believe that those who are in the critical sectors of our industry should start thinking about this. This will be something like those merchants who gathered together to build ships and secure their cargos. Note that these ventures, these "corporations" were the basis from which a certain United States of America was created... I am not American and I do see in a very critical view the USA. But still it was a great venture and a great step for Mankind what was done.
It was only a bunch of merchants who started such thing. We are just a bunch of users.
First let us note that what Clarke projected in 2010 already happened in 2001. I mean Russia and US working together. Curiously Russia also sent into the Pacific its Space hallmark in 2001. Curiously Mir and ISS were devised nearly at the same time when 2001 came out.
Oh, yeah. And we do are in Jupiter. But the ship is named Galilei, its design is nearly as old as 2001 and there is not crew or HAL on it. And it carries a crippled antenna and a broken recorder. And its computer nearly reaches the intelligence of a PC at the beginning of the 90's. Anyway, no matter the huge efforts, it didn't find that piece of black rock around Jupiter.
Do you use SETI. You don't? Run for it and you get all your dreams realised!
The day we get a signal from Cosmos we naturally will start building bigger guns, make some more nuclear weapon research and smoke more tobbaco as Earth is a paranoidal hospice that fears any stranger and gets panicked on every ununderstandable event...
Here we see one thing that /. lacks and refuses to accept: an editorial board. Yes, editorial boards are bad as they are a base for censorship, trade-offs, mob headlines, Pentagon infos and TASS statements...
/. is not obliged to have an editorial board in the traditional sense of the word. I think /. team could think on something original... As usual... and you are good on this.
But having the lack of an editorial board is no better than having a bad one. And besides
Really I'm only waiting for the moment X when someone says "enough is enough", sues Rob down to the socks and lows Cmd Taco to deliver boy of tacos/pizzas... One day that will happen.
I am not talking about perfections dear Sir. I'm talking about a society that valued some freedoms. However tis society started to trade these freedoms for a more confortable and easy life. By selling, renting and lending information uppon which one may influence personal lifes. That's the point I make. Your freedom today in the US may be in the balance of the level of your self-conscience as citizens and your desires as consumers.
Excuse me your optimism but such trade-off is mainly seen in America.
And what concerns "comfortable"... Mr. All Correct, I'm an european. In several european languanges "m" only appears in front of of two consonants: "p" or "b". And usually the root "confort" is what I may use more frequently in the languages I know. Anyway, sorry for trashing the english language with my barbaric continentalisms.
Ok people. You have been warned. You are being warned. And you will be being warned for a while.
However I doubt that 80% of you will care for this. Because Passport eases your lives. Because you don't have to remember, write on your hand or repeatedly type lots and lots of info about you, your family and something else. Of course you think that you can pass over it, that your freedoms will never be endangered. And maybe you think your children can pass through it too. Maybe even your nephews, grandsons and grand-grandsons may also pass it through... But that day may happen when some John Doe Jr Jr Jr will realise that he has nothing more than his body as ownership. And maybe he will not even have the right to own it.
You may think that these small underminings of civil rights are an easy price to pay. In late Roman Empire there was also a similar process that lasted nearly 200 years. It was the formation of what became known as latifunds, large pieces of land belonging to one person. That was also the base for the creation of feudalism and the beginning of the Middle Age. People offered by little their freedom for the protection of their belongings. There are several examples of this early process of feudalisation in letters from what is now Romania, France, Spain and Austria. Besides the protectors basically were not our "analphabet, rough, barbars" of History books but usually proeminent figures of the Empire, usually military ones. It were they who laid the foundation for the New Order. It were they who destroyed the last remains of Rome and wiped completely the cultural basis of that time. There is a certain Boecius who wrote a little about this exactly on the last years of Rome.
Why I am telling about this. Because you are doing a similar thing. You are giving away your rights, your identity, your ownership for the ease of a click. And a day may come when you can only get these things back if someone allows you to click. Or else you are nothing, a dropout, an alien, an abortion thrown over the sideways of the Information Highway.
You had one guy that loved too much to play with funny inventions. I believe that God gave him a chance not getting fried because he was also a big thinker. And once he warned that if someone gives a little bit of his freedom for security he has no right for being free. Confort is somehow also a bit of security. We should note that Mr. Franklin spoke about freedom in the society of very rich people who exactly care about confort as a part of their security. Today a larger segment of Americans can feel a little bit more of it. So remember that crazy founding father of yours. He was also a genius of Philosophy.
Oooooooh. I forgot, you Americans fell quite DISCONFORTABLE with Philosophy...
And what? We just recently saw a few civilians playing with a BIG NUKE SUBMARINE for a miserble amount of money... The result was seen all over the world.
And note, Tito is a ex-NASA man. Maybe he is quite far from piloting ships. But he is an insider anyway...
What is happening with Denis Tito is, from my point of view "unthinkable". And American citizen, who worked for years in America's Space Program. A man who managed to become a "self-made-man", one of those so publicized values of America. A man who wanted to fulfill a dream and tries, as a typical son of his country to achieve it. He doesn't find a chance in his country to do it so he comes here and pays big money for it. And then NASA starts a weird campaign. First it issues worries all over about Mir's state. Ok, Russians agree with them, sunk Mir and transfer Tito into one of their missions on ISS. And what we get here? Suddenly Russia is a bad partner, it takes unilateral decisions, it blows up the Space Program and puts in cause the security of ISS...
No Russian Agency as ever asked about the competency of the American astronauts sent to Mir. No one has ever asked anyone else about the competency of scientists or even military personel that was sent on Shuttles, Soyuz, Salyuts, or Mirs, ISSs and similars. Russia has even sent politicians to Space (there was one Mr. Baturin, an ex-minister btw). Not counting that it had to deal with biologists, doctors and several other people who barely know anything about a spaceship.
And suddenly it comes one Mr. Tito and everything blows up... In face of NASA's past this is an afrontation to everyone who remembers the Challenger. Who is NASA to value to dangers and chances for civilians? Who is NASA to question Russia's experience.
Intersting to see NASA acting as a typical soviet ministry...