I'd still rather buy a Dell than a HP that's loaded with so much crap software it takes an hour to boot the first time, and three hours to get to a usable desktop. Oh, and Dell at least includes the actual (i.e. crap-free) Windows CD with the system; HP's "restore disk" just re-installs the crap.
Media Center I guess i'm supposed to buy a Xbox 360 so I can only rent movies for a ridiculous price and in the process of watching the movie have to call the fire department to put the fire out of the smoldering pile of ash that was a Xbox.
We were discussing Vista, not Xbox. So... I don't get exactly what you're even talking about at this point. If anything, it seems to support the assertion that Vista *doesn't* have DRM. (i.e. you can't buy movies through Vista's built-in Media Center, and movies require DRM.) Obviously, if you install iTunes, you get Apple's DRM... if that was the point you were trying to make... but that also has nothing to do with Vista.
Why do you think they are scrambling to get Windows 7 to market?
I don't think they are, nor have I seem any news releases indicating that Windows 7 developers are "scrambling." Citation, if you have one, please.
Drivers are hardware. The driver for your (say) video card is part of the video card hardware.
A lot of people are willing to give companies a pass when they develop quality hardware, but terrible terrible drivers. (HP printers, for example.) The problem is that you use your printer driver as much or more as you use the printer itself.
Assuming they're running Windows 2000 or newer, the only way they'll get a bluescreen is if there's a hardware failure. In that case, it doesn't matter what OS you're using, you're going down.
I've seen a lot of Sun boxes when I worked with MRI machines, I was a little surprised at that.
If it was over-writing files, how could the file-count possibly have been the same as the original?
Or are you saying that Aperture had already over-written the files when it imported in the first place? But then how didn't she notice the missing images during daily use?
I know, it's off-topic, I'm just curious to find out what happened here.
My wife is a pro-photographer and takes like, 500+ images per job, and, we had the $3000 dual G5 Mac and Aperature and Aperature yakked and we lost a year of work because Aperature's doesn't generate unique filenames for its images across subdirectories and when you export it overlays them...
I agree that's a terrible bug, and Apple should be chided for it.
But you didn't back up the files for an entire year? WTF! That's some weapons-grade FAIL right there.
Oh yeah, let's spend billions of dollars without justifying the expense. That's a great way to run a civilization.
While we're at it, let's build a 500-foot tall cow robot for billions of dollars, you've provided as much reason to do that as to go into space. Or anything else. I've decreed that having a 500-foot tall cow robot is "moving ahead."
You need to stop and think here, if you can't explain *why* we need to do something more than "we just move ahead," you need to consider that maybe it's not worth doing at all. NASA has had 60 years now to justify their existence, and it's obvious they haven't done a very good job of it. (At least, not the 'manned space exploration' bit; they've certainly demonstrated the benefits of satellites.)
Where are our LaGrange colonies, where are the orbital power sats, asteroid mining, space manufacturing? Where is the vision?
Who cares?
If you have a good plan to send a sustainable colony to another solar system, I'd be all for it. But why build a colony in a LaGrange orbit when you could just send them to Utah with less cost and more safety? What would be the point of such a colony, exactly?
Yeah, I had to wipe my HP tablet. Then I found out HP puts the crapware on the install disk, too! Ugh.
I reinstalled it using the Vista Home Premium DVD that came with my Dell desktop (ironically), and now it runs smooth as silk. And as an added bonus, when I go to System -> Properties, Vista thinks it's running on a Dell.
I'm sure as hell never buying HP again. I knew to expect the crapware, but I didn't expect that much of it, not by a long shot-- and putting the crapware on the install DVD was just icing on the cake. Dell for me from now on.
Ugh, tell me about it. We had to buy a Vista laptop for my wife to run a medical practice management app, and it's a dual-core system with 2GB of memory. By all accounts it's a fast computer, but by the time Vista finishes booting, all of the "update me!" dialogs have been clicked, and it's actually ready to use, she's cussing at the thing.
Let me guess, it's an HP with (approx) 40,000 pieces of crapware installed?
I like to liken BSD (and its relatives) to a society where everything is so... laissez-faire that one person can own another person (by contract or payment of money), whereas GPL would be a society that decided that freedom to restrict others' freedom is not a freedom.
Isn't the entire point of the GPL to restrict others' freedom? Am I taking crazy pills?
With BSD code or public domain code, I'm free to take that code and include it in my project. With GPL I'm not unless my project follows a very specific licensing model they specify. The "Tivo" clause in GPL3 is even worse; not I can't even put GPL code in my hardware device without restrictions.
If GPL were truly free, it wouldn't need to lean on copyright law to work, since copyright law is specifically designed to restrict what people can do. GPL is free in the same way you're "free" to convert to Islam during a jihad.
(I'm not saying copyright is wrong; I actually enjoy the right to "own" the distribution of any intellectual property I create. I'm just saying GPL advocates have this one all wrong.)
Full quotation, highlighting the parent's lack of reading skills:
From the BSD advocate's view, the situation is absurd. His project is still free, and he does not really care how a user wants to use it. A shell script calling the converter is no different than a closed source program embedding it. They are simply different ways for a human to use the program. Whether the object code for the project stays hackable is also irrelevant, since the human's use of the project through a derived work project is just another way of use.
Before you knee-jerk with the British insults, how about you read the passage a couple more times until you have a good grip on what it actually says?
Linux needs to rein-in the crazies, that's the real problem.
I agree with you entirely, that its only recently that Linux has become even slightly easy to use, but a couple days ago I was reading a post from some clod on this site that read:
Open source has been MUCH BETTER than closed source equivalents for as long as Microsoft has existed. Microsoft has, in fact, incorporated a lot of open source projects into their products.
Yes, but the example you listed that I *do* do, all the freakin' time, is completely and utter crap. Why would I trust your other examples would be any less crap?
In any case, I'm not going to blame Microsoft for Sony being assholes, Sony is good enough at being assholes on their own.
He's saying that programmers will need to move on to something else once the project is done. You know, when there's nothing much else for them to do? When the project's finished?
He's not saying that the company should be shuffling people around different projects all the time.
If I had $10 every time someone proclaimed something to be the "doom of Microsoft" I'd have more money than Bill Gates. Give the hyperbole a rest; at worst this will be a slightly bad business decision. Fox buying MySpace wasn't the doom of either. Neither was Time-Warner buying AOL.
Well, duh, I've not dealt with RealPlayer. Why would any sane person do that?
As for DVD images, I've *ripped* them in Vista using Handbrake, and didn't have any problems. So I'm calling bunk there.
As for Sony CDs-- well, same applies as with RealPlayer. Why would any sane person put a Sony CD into their computer, after they've demonstrated the inclination to pack-in rootkits with them? It's probably the Sony rootkit having a bug more than any problem inherent to Vista.
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I'd still rather buy a Dell than a HP that's loaded with so much crap software it takes an hour to boot the first time, and three hours to get to a usable desktop. Oh, and Dell at least includes the actual (i.e. crap-free) Windows CD with the system; HP's "restore disk" just re-installs the crap.
Media Center I guess i'm supposed to buy a Xbox 360 so I can only rent movies for a ridiculous price and in the process of watching the movie have to call the fire department to put the fire out of the smoldering pile of ash that was a Xbox.
We were discussing Vista, not Xbox. So... I don't get exactly what you're even talking about at this point. If anything, it seems to support the assertion that Vista *doesn't* have DRM. (i.e. you can't buy movies through Vista's built-in Media Center, and movies require DRM.) Obviously, if you install iTunes, you get Apple's DRM... if that was the point you were trying to make... but that also has nothing to do with Vista.
Why do you think they are scrambling to get Windows 7 to market?
I don't think they are, nor have I seem any news releases indicating that Windows 7 developers are "scrambling." Citation, if you have one, please.
Drivers are hardware. The driver for your (say) video card is part of the video card hardware.
A lot of people are willing to give companies a pass when they develop quality hardware, but terrible terrible drivers. (HP printers, for example.) The problem is that you use your printer driver as much or more as you use the printer itself.
This was posted on Slashdot. Needless to say, the story is total bunk.
Try to relax before knee-jerking to something you see here. Probably half of the damned stories here are blatantly false.
What's so scary about a headphone jack? It makes a hell of a lot more sense than the ATMs covered in braille.
I presume you mean Windows CE?
No, he means Windows Embedded. Duh.
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/embedded/default.mspx
Nice job with the pointless off-topic MS rant.
Assuming they're running Windows 2000 or newer, the only way they'll get a bluescreen is if there's a hardware failure. In that case, it doesn't matter what OS you're using, you're going down.
I've seen a lot of Sun boxes when I worked with MRI machines, I was a little surprised at that.
Open source developers don't fix bugs submitted by the general public:
http://blakeyrat.com/bugs/
In fact, I'm pretty sure the majority of those haven't even been READ.
If it was over-writing files, how could the file-count possibly have been the same as the original?
Or are you saying that Aperture had already over-written the files when it imported in the first place? But then how didn't she notice the missing images during daily use?
I know, it's off-topic, I'm just curious to find out what happened here.
My wife is a pro-photographer and takes like, 500+ images per job, and, we had the $3000 dual G5 Mac and Aperature and Aperature yakked and we lost a year of work because Aperature's doesn't generate unique filenames for its images across subdirectories and when you export it overlays them...
I agree that's a terrible bug, and Apple should be chided for it.
But you didn't back up the files for an entire year? WTF! That's some weapons-grade FAIL right there.
Wow, so now Clinton is only completely unelectable for 58,237 reasons!
I'm thinking its time we start looking at the French Revolution for advice.
Adopt a 10-hour clock?
Something about this story doesn't sit right with me...
Oh yeah, trees can't talk!
Oh yeah, let's spend billions of dollars without justifying the expense. That's a great way to run a civilization.
While we're at it, let's build a 500-foot tall cow robot for billions of dollars, you've provided as much reason to do that as to go into space. Or anything else. I've decreed that having a 500-foot tall cow robot is "moving ahead."
You need to stop and think here, if you can't explain *why* we need to do something more than "we just move ahead," you need to consider that maybe it's not worth doing at all. NASA has had 60 years now to justify their existence, and it's obvious they haven't done a very good job of it. (At least, not the 'manned space exploration' bit; they've certainly demonstrated the benefits of satellites.)
Where are our LaGrange colonies, where are the orbital power sats, asteroid mining, space manufacturing? Where is the vision?
Who cares?
If you have a good plan to send a sustainable colony to another solar system, I'd be all for it. But why build a colony in a LaGrange orbit when you could just send them to Utah with less cost and more safety? What would be the point of such a colony, exactly?
Yeah, I had to wipe my HP tablet. Then I found out HP puts the crapware on the install disk, too! Ugh.
I reinstalled it using the Vista Home Premium DVD that came with my Dell desktop (ironically), and now it runs smooth as silk. And as an added bonus, when I go to System -> Properties, Vista thinks it's running on a Dell.
I'm sure as hell never buying HP again. I knew to expect the crapware, but I didn't expect that much of it, not by a long shot-- and putting the crapware on the install DVD was just icing on the cake. Dell for me from now on.
Ugh, tell me about it. We had to buy a Vista laptop for my wife to run a medical practice management app, and it's a dual-core system with 2GB of memory. By all accounts it's a fast computer, but by the time Vista finishes booting, all of the "update me!" dialogs have been clicked, and it's actually ready to use, she's cussing at the thing.
Let me guess, it's an HP with (approx) 40,000 pieces of crapware installed?
I like to liken BSD (and its relatives) to a society where everything is so ... laissez-faire that one person can own another person (by contract or payment of money), whereas GPL would be a society that decided that freedom to restrict others' freedom is not a freedom.
Isn't the entire point of the GPL to restrict others' freedom? Am I taking crazy pills?
With BSD code or public domain code, I'm free to take that code and include it in my project. With GPL I'm not unless my project follows a very specific licensing model they specify. The "Tivo" clause in GPL3 is even worse; not I can't even put GPL code in my hardware device without restrictions.
If GPL were truly free, it wouldn't need to lean on copyright law to work, since copyright law is specifically designed to restrict what people can do. GPL is free in the same way you're "free" to convert to Islam during a jihad.
(I'm not saying copyright is wrong; I actually enjoy the right to "own" the distribution of any intellectual property I create. I'm just saying GPL advocates have this one all wrong.)
Full quotation, highlighting the parent's lack of reading skills:
Before you knee-jerk with the British insults, how about you read the passage a couple more times until you have a good grip on what it actually says?
Linux needs to rein-in the crazies, that's the real problem.
I agree with you entirely, that its only recently that Linux has become even slightly easy to use, but a couple days ago I was reading a post from some clod on this site that read:
Open source has been MUCH BETTER than closed source equivalents for as long as Microsoft has existed. Microsoft has, in fact, incorporated a lot of open source projects into their products.
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=604653&threshold=2&commentsort=3&mode=thread&cid=24065909
Yeah, right.
Yes, but the example you listed that I *do* do, all the freakin' time, is completely and utter crap. Why would I trust your other examples would be any less crap?
In any case, I'm not going to blame Microsoft for Sony being assholes, Sony is good enough at being assholes on their own.
Woosh, you totally missed the point.
He's saying that programmers will need to move on to something else once the project is done. You know, when there's nothing much else for them to do? When the project's finished?
He's not saying that the company should be shuffling people around different projects all the time.
Reading is fundamental.
Does this whole situation affect your choice of file system?
I use the filesystem that came with my OS. You know, like 99.999% of people.
If I had $10 every time someone proclaimed something to be the "doom of Microsoft" I'd have more money than Bill Gates. Give the hyperbole a rest; at worst this will be a slightly bad business decision. Fox buying MySpace wasn't the doom of either. Neither was Time-Warner buying AOL.
Well, duh, I've not dealt with RealPlayer. Why would any sane person do that?
As for DVD images, I've *ripped* them in Vista using Handbrake, and didn't have any problems. So I'm calling bunk there.
As for Sony CDs-- well, same applies as with RealPlayer. Why would any sane person put a Sony CD into their computer, after they've demonstrated the inclination to pack-in rootkits with them? It's probably the Sony rootkit having a bug more than any problem inherent to Vista.