Why does your China scenario require input from the US?
We already know China can arbitrarily filter their Internet content; they've done it in the past. They can tell the people it was the US government's fault whether or not the US government had anything to do with it at all.
I don't really get what your concern is. Why would this bill make YouTube disappear (to the average Chinese citizen)? And, if it did, why would that be any different than China's government making YouTube disappear?
The entire point of audio CAPCHAs is that they can be used by the visually impaired using screen-reader browsers.
Your proposal completely defeats that.
Also, ideally, your system wouldn't require any cultural knowledge beyond knowledge of the language. For instance, someone born and raised in Zambia could potentially have never heard of a "doughnut," even if they know English.
No. The US Constitution does not say that the US government, Federal or State, owns all property. Therefore, the same can not be said about the US. Unless the person saying it was a blatant liar, or possibly a retard.
Where I live, there are so many small independent coffee shops, no self-respecting person would ever go to Starbucks for coffee.
Me too, and yet I go to Starbucks. You know why?
Those small, independent coffee shops are all full of pricks. The baristas are pretentious, the menus are full of Italian gibberish, and the coffee isn't much better than Starbucks' at all. I don't like super-pretentious Italian coffeeshops, I never feel comfortable in them, like I'm not as good as everyone else there because I don't have the right brand of shoes, or because I'm not an "artist", or because I don't follow the Tour De France, or because I don't drive a Prius. Also I can't type their names on a standard US keyboard because they have 34 random accents from all over Europe. Fuck that.
I'd rather go to Starbucks where the line is short, the coffee might not be as good, but at least its a known quantity, nobody cares if I drive a Dodge, and the checker is as likely as not to call me "hun" or "darling." That makes me feel comfortable and in my element.
Oh, and I am a self-respecting person. So screw you.:) (Yes, I probably also have anger issues.)
The New York Legislature. Which I'm sure the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually tell to "screw off" because the National Constitution (which NY signed) says only the U.S. may regulate commerce across borders. i.e. New York can't go taxing the Californian business known as amazon.
Amazon's a Washington business, you insensitive clod!
Not that it changes your point, but next time if you get the location correct I won't get distracted by that and feel compelled to correct you.:)
China's no more communist than Tony Blair's a socialist.
As long as you ignore that tricky little "the government owns all property" clause. Until that's gone, China's just letting everybody pretend that they have a free market, while the reality is that the government could step in at any moment and convert all those Barbie factors into munitions plants, and nobody could do anything to stop them. (Legally, at least.)
China's a Communist country that pretends to have a free market.
Yes, thank you. You are now the... sixth, maybe seventh, person to post this EXACT SAME PIECE OF INFORMATION IN THE EXACT SAME THREAD. Please at least pretend to read the other replies before replying, ok?
Yes, but unlike most Linux users, my time has value. I don't care how easy it is to reinstall a bootloader, the simple fact is that I don't want it to fuck with my bootloader in the first place.
To say it doesn't mess with my system, then follow that up with "oh it messes with your bootloader" is pretty deceitful, BTW.
* R6 didn't search only titles. ANY version, if there's no index, will search the view contents rather than the contents of the document displayed in the view. That's default behaviour, and sometimes desirable.
What does that even mean? How is "searching the view contents" different than "searching the document displayed in the view?" This is another reason I always hated Notes, it had its own strange terminology nobody could figure out. I don't even know what a "view" is, frankly, is that a folder? Or a window? Or is that the email icon? Who knows.
* The browser settings are "buried under" Location Settings because yes, sometimes you do want a different browser setting for different locations. For instance, when you do or don't have a working connection.
That's ridiculous. So if I'm a modem, I want to use the Notes HTML renderer (which, I remind you, does not work, but if I'm on the corporate network I want to use IE? Can you actually provide a specific example of why I would ever want to do that? I can't think of any problem that solves.
* I'd like to see Notes use the Gecko rendering engine instead myself, and feel that would be the correct default option. But I'm still waiting...
I'd like to never use Notes again in my life.
* A decent GUI for Notes wouldn't solve any problems, as you'd then have millions of users to retrain. You'd be surprised how used to Notes you've become, and would probably spend all your time posting on Slashdot that the new interface breaks all your stored knowledge and therefore sucks.
No, I wouldn't. Because I don't use it. I don't use it because it sucked in the past, and I moved jobs primarily to get away from supporting that hog.
Slashdotters vastly over-estimate the time it takes to re-train users. Assuming the GUI actually becomes decent, users will have it down pat in two weeks and they'll write love letters to IBM for freeing them from their Notes-based torture of the past.
But that'll never happen, because IBM has never made a product with a decent GUI in their entire history.
* Have I mentioned that Notes can't win for you?
Yup. IBM had its chance to impress me, and they blew it. Tough shit to them.
The kind of people who write code susceptible to SQL Injection attacks don't read Slashdot, buddy. They don't go to programming classes, they don't read literature, they just do the absolute bare minimum to get by with their VB6 knowledge in the modern world.
Sorry, but that's the reality; anybody on Slashdot already knows what you're saying, and the type of people who code these bugs don't read Slashdot.
I didn't follow the case, but another post here says they found books about criminal investigation in the hosed-out car. Wouldn't that suggest pre-meditation? Unless he had a history of reading books about police investigations, I suppose.
It works fine with my wifi and laptop's sleep mode. Wait, what's that you say? Microsoft has a stranglehold on hardware manufacturers so that their specs and drivers are often only available to Windows? I say!
It was an Apple laptop, but nice try.
When are Linux developers going to stop making excuses and start making the OS work correctly? Imagine if the US Army just hung out in Britain complaining that they couldn't invade because the Nazis were already on the beach.
Well, it's been a few years since I've tried Linux. (I wanna say it was Ubuntu 6?) I stopped using it because it didn't support my USB wifi widget on my desktop, and it wouldn't sleep my laptop at all. Back when I used it, it was a complete Windows rip.
Now I'm happy enough with Vista that I wouldn't risk my Vista install by installing it on my desktop, and my laptop is a tablet which, frankly, I doubt Linux supports at all based on my previous tablet experience.
And discoverability is important in the long-term, too. I might not use mail-merge the first time I use a word processor, but in a couple years when I'm doing that I certainly want it to be discoverable as well as usable. There are numerous of these "use it maybe once a year" features that need to be discoverable.
I'd argue that Ubuntu doesn't focus on usability much when it didn't support my wifi or laptop's sleep mode.;)
There is a reason that newspapers use narrow columns of text and it directly applies to your flammage. Something about the ignorant being cocksure.
Yes, I understand that. But here's an amazing revelation for you: You can make your browser window narrower if you want narrow columns! GASP!!! AS IF BY MAGIC!
However, there's nothing I can do to my browser window to make his original post not look like ass-- except perhaps switching to a monospaced font, but then all other posts would look like ass.
Yes, but Linspire lost the support of the "political" Linux supporters, people who actually give half a squirt over what license a particular piece of software uses. So despite having good usability, the ability to legally play DVDs, etc, the Linux hard-core would never use it because it's "proprietary." Waaah.
Ubuntu would have the same problem if they made themselves usable, because sooner or later being usable is going to involve, for example, licensing proprietary code from the MPAA or from BroadCom, and then it's game-over.
The Linux community needs a Harry Truman. Someone with a placard on his desk that says "The Buck Stops Here."
In short, if the Broadcom cards don't work, someone go and chase that goddamned problem down until it does! Maybe it's a software solution, maybe it involves actually *gasp* traveling to a conference room and making your case, but somebody needs to just take the problem on and not stop until it's solved. Same with DVD playback, drivers for USB devices, etc etc.
Enough with the VCR bullshit. It was bullshit 20 years ago and its triple bullshit now. My ancient Sony Betacord (which is still 100% functional by the way) was so EPICLY confusing...ya...you hold clock, then you pressed "hour" till the hour was right, then you pressed "minute" till the minute was right, then you let go of "clock" and it was set. I mean my god, that's how cars work too, nobody talks about people who's in-dash clock is a 12:00 flasher...it's also how clock radios work and microwaves work.
The clock on my car stereo is consistently wrong, too.
Which is really dumb. My old 1960's stove has a clock set button and a big ol' dial you can use to set the time. (Same dial that's used for the timer, when you're using the timer.) Now my radio has a big ol' dial on it, but to set the time I have to get out a sharpened pencil or pen and poke it into a teeny hole about 47 times. Why didn't the radio maker just use the big ol' dial to set the clock? I guess that wasn't "digital" enough for them?
(Microwaves are different; you can usually just type in the time on the keypad which is pretty good. I still like that old 1960s dial.)
You obviously don't know the first thing about usability. I pray you don't write GUI software.
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Why does your China scenario require input from the US?
We already know China can arbitrarily filter their Internet content; they've done it in the past. They can tell the people it was the US government's fault whether or not the US government had anything to do with it at all.
I don't really get what your concern is. Why would this bill make YouTube disappear (to the average Chinese citizen)? And, if it did, why would that be any different than China's government making YouTube disappear?
Self-respecting people brew their own damn java.
:P
Obviously not, I just told you I'm self-respecting and go to Starbucks. Pay attention.
The entire point of audio CAPCHAs is that they can be used by the visually impaired using screen-reader browsers.
Your proposal completely defeats that.
Also, ideally, your system wouldn't require any cultural knowledge beyond knowledge of the language. For instance, someone born and raised in Zambia could potentially have never heard of a "doughnut," even if they know English.
Couldn't the same be said about the US?
I can't believe I'm even responding to this.
No. The US Constitution does not say that the US government, Federal or State, owns all property. Therefore, the same can not be said about the US. Unless the person saying it was a blatant liar, or possibly a retard.
Where I live, there are so many small independent coffee shops, no self-respecting person would ever go to Starbucks for coffee.
:) (Yes, I probably also have anger issues.)
Me too, and yet I go to Starbucks. You know why?
Those small, independent coffee shops are all full of pricks. The baristas are pretentious, the menus are full of Italian gibberish, and the coffee isn't much better than Starbucks' at all. I don't like super-pretentious Italian coffeeshops, I never feel comfortable in them, like I'm not as good as everyone else there because I don't have the right brand of shoes, or because I'm not an "artist", or because I don't follow the Tour De France, or because I don't drive a Prius. Also I can't type their names on a standard US keyboard because they have 34 random accents from all over Europe. Fuck that.
I'd rather go to Starbucks where the line is short, the coffee might not be as good, but at least its a known quantity, nobody cares if I drive a Dodge, and the checker is as likely as not to call me "hun" or "darling." That makes me feel comfortable and in my element.
Oh, and I am a self-respecting person. So screw you.
The New York Legislature. Which I'm sure the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually tell to "screw off" because the National Constitution (which NY signed) says only the U.S. may regulate commerce across borders. i.e. New York can't go taxing the Californian business known as amazon.
:)
Amazon's a Washington business, you insensitive clod!
Not that it changes your point, but next time if you get the location correct I won't get distracted by that and feel compelled to correct you.
China's no more communist than Tony Blair's a socialist.
As long as you ignore that tricky little "the government owns all property" clause. Until that's gone, China's just letting everybody pretend that they have a free market, while the reality is that the government could step in at any moment and convert all those Barbie factors into munitions plants, and nobody could do anything to stop them. (Legally, at least.)
China's a Communist country that pretends to have a free market.
Not to mention it includes GNU which is a recursive acronym, which is about as close you can get to "purposefully confusing speech."
One good book? Personally I would consider enders game to be one of Cards WORST efforts.
Ah, the purity of a mind that has never read Orson Scott Card's Wyrms.
I'm pretty sure I could fish a better book than Wyrms out of my toilet after an all-day BBQ eating spree.
And it's named "gNuisance?" Are they trying to give The GIMP a run for its 'poorly-named software product' money?
Yes, thank you. You are now the ... sixth, maybe seventh, person to post this EXACT SAME PIECE OF INFORMATION IN THE EXACT SAME THREAD. Please at least pretend to read the other replies before replying, ok?
Yes, but unlike most Linux users, my time has value. I don't care how easy it is to reinstall a bootloader, the simple fact is that I don't want it to fuck with my bootloader in the first place.
To say it doesn't mess with my system, then follow that up with "oh it messes with your bootloader" is pretty deceitful, BTW.
Saves me 9 characters: lockquote
Blame the HTML standard for not making an easy [q] tag for quotations.
Ah, Blakey. Calling names so soon?
No, I meant "you are full of crap." Not "your name is 'full of crap.'" Subtle difference, I know.
* R6 didn't search only titles. ANY version, if there's no index, will search the view contents rather than the contents of the document displayed in the view. That's default behaviour, and sometimes desirable.
What does that even mean? How is "searching the view contents" different than "searching the document displayed in the view?" This is another reason I always hated Notes, it had its own strange terminology nobody could figure out. I don't even know what a "view" is, frankly, is that a folder? Or a window? Or is that the email icon? Who knows.
* The browser settings are "buried under" Location Settings because yes, sometimes you do want a different browser setting for different locations. For instance, when you do or don't have a working connection.
That's ridiculous. So if I'm a modem, I want to use the Notes HTML renderer (which, I remind you, does not work, but if I'm on the corporate network I want to use IE? Can you actually provide a specific example of why I would ever want to do that? I can't think of any problem that solves.
* I'd like to see Notes use the Gecko rendering engine instead myself, and feel that would be the correct default option. But I'm still waiting...
I'd like to never use Notes again in my life.
* A decent GUI for Notes wouldn't solve any problems, as you'd then have millions of users to retrain. You'd be surprised how used to Notes you've become, and would probably spend all your time posting on Slashdot that the new interface breaks all your stored knowledge and therefore sucks.
No, I wouldn't. Because I don't use it. I don't use it because it sucked in the past, and I moved jobs primarily to get away from supporting that hog.
Slashdotters vastly over-estimate the time it takes to re-train users. Assuming the GUI actually becomes decent, users will have it down pat in two weeks and they'll write love letters to IBM for freeing them from their Notes-based torture of the past.
But that'll never happen, because IBM has never made a product with a decent GUI in their entire history.
* Have I mentioned that Notes can't win for you?
Yup. IBM had its chance to impress me, and they blew it. Tough shit to them.
Microsoft, maybe. But why would Intel care?
NT was ported to Alpha and PPC, remember. And Mac OS X, which used to be on PPC, runs on Intel now.
The kind of people who write code susceptible to SQL Injection attacks don't read Slashdot, buddy. They don't go to programming classes, they don't read literature, they just do the absolute bare minimum to get by with their VB6 knowledge in the modern world.
Sorry, but that's the reality; anybody on Slashdot already knows what you're saying, and the type of people who code these bugs don't read Slashdot.
I didn't follow the case, but another post here says they found books about criminal investigation in the hosed-out car. Wouldn't that suggest pre-meditation? Unless he had a history of reading books about police investigations, I suppose.
So it doesn't put my system at risk, but it does fuck with my bootloader? No thanks.
It works fine with my wifi and laptop's sleep mode. Wait, what's that you say? Microsoft has a stranglehold on hardware manufacturers so that their specs and drivers are often only available to Windows? I say!
It was an Apple laptop, but nice try.
When are Linux developers going to stop making excuses and start making the OS work correctly? Imagine if the US Army just hung out in Britain complaining that they couldn't invade because the Nazis were already on the beach.
Well, it's been a few years since I've tried Linux. (I wanna say it was Ubuntu 6?) I stopped using it because it didn't support my USB wifi widget on my desktop, and it wouldn't sleep my laptop at all. Back when I used it, it was a complete Windows rip.
;)
Now I'm happy enough with Vista that I wouldn't risk my Vista install by installing it on my desktop, and my laptop is a tablet which, frankly, I doubt Linux supports at all based on my previous tablet experience.
And discoverability is important in the long-term, too. I might not use mail-merge the first time I use a word processor, but in a couple years when I'm doing that I certainly want it to be discoverable as well as usable. There are numerous of these "use it maybe once a year" features that need to be discoverable.
I'd argue that Ubuntu doesn't focus on usability much when it didn't support my wifi or laptop's sleep mode.
There is a reason that newspapers use narrow columns of text and it directly applies to your flammage. Something about the ignorant being cocksure.
Yes, I understand that. But here's an amazing revelation for you: You can make your browser window narrower if you want narrow columns! GASP!!! AS IF BY MAGIC!
However, there's nothing I can do to my browser window to make his original post not look like ass-- except perhaps switching to a monospaced font, but then all other posts would look like ass.
Yes, but Linspire lost the support of the "political" Linux supporters, people who actually give half a squirt over what license a particular piece of software uses. So despite having good usability, the ability to legally play DVDs, etc, the Linux hard-core would never use it because it's "proprietary." Waaah.
Ubuntu would have the same problem if they made themselves usable, because sooner or later being usable is going to involve, for example, licensing proprietary code from the MPAA or from BroadCom, and then it's game-over.
The Linux community needs a Harry Truman. Someone with a placard on his desk that says "The Buck Stops Here."
In short, if the Broadcom cards don't work, someone go and chase that goddamned problem down until it does! Maybe it's a software solution, maybe it involves actually *gasp* traveling to a conference room and making your case, but somebody needs to just take the problem on and not stop until it's solved. Same with DVD playback, drivers for USB devices, etc etc.
It's too easy to just blame someone else.
Enough with the VCR bullshit. It was bullshit 20 years ago and its triple bullshit now. My ancient Sony Betacord (which is still 100% functional by the way) was so EPICLY confusing...ya...you hold clock, then you pressed "hour" till the hour was right, then you pressed "minute" till the minute was right, then you let go of "clock" and it was set. I mean my god, that's how cars work too, nobody talks about people who's in-dash clock is a 12:00 flasher...it's also how clock radios work and microwaves work.
The clock on my car stereo is consistently wrong, too.
Which is really dumb. My old 1960's stove has a clock set button and a big ol' dial you can use to set the time. (Same dial that's used for the timer, when you're using the timer.) Now my radio has a big ol' dial on it, but to set the time I have to get out a sharpened pencil or pen and poke it into a teeny hole about 47 times. Why didn't the radio maker just use the big ol' dial to set the clock? I guess that wasn't "digital" enough for them?
(Microwaves are different; you can usually just type in the time on the keypad which is pretty good. I still like that old 1960s dial.)
You obviously don't know the first thing about usability. I pray you don't write GUI software.