I still don't get it. Are you saying that the second economist says that the first obviously doesn't want a sportscar because he doesn't already have one? Or because statistically, people in his income bracket don't own sportscars? How is it even a joke?
All it tells me is that, if either of those explanations are true, economist #2 is either an asshole or completely clueless. Or is that the point?
By "moving to Facebook" I was inferring that economists are better off polishing their social interaction skills by attending to that website rather than Slashdot.
But I'm not an economist, I'm already on Facebook, and you told me to "move" to Facebook, not the economist in the joke.
To this end I'm hoping also that you'll support my new group Society for Understanding Commercial Concepts, Economics, and Responsibility. It's dedicated toward replacing all incandescent bright ideas with low-impact flourescents. Free sarcasm filter with every new member.
Yes, see, that I get. But bejeezus you're confusing.
Two economists walk past a Porsche dealer. One says "I'd really like to have one of those new Boxters." The other one looks at him and replies "Obviously not."
Ok, I've run your "joke" past three people now, and none of them have any clue what the sam hill you're talking about.
If you get that joke, I suggest you move to Facebook.
First of all, Facebook is a website... how would I go about "moving" to it? Secondly, I don't get that joke despite already having a Facebook account (if that's what 'move to Facebook' means), so there's something wrong with your assertion here.
Yeah and what is giant invisible birds from Venus land in UFOs and raid Google headquarters to find eyeballs to peck out!
Let's worry about actual problems, please. If porn were to become illegal, the US would have MUCH bigger problems than Google knowing what sites you like. And if uptight employers fire me, that's their right-- again it would be a much bigger problem if they weren't allowed to.
Gruh, I should have specifically said "no 'I use AdBlock' responses." Yes, we get it, a lot of Slashdot readers use AdBlock. I understand this. I've read the snarky "the web has ads? I use AdBlock so I don't see them" about 50,000 times this month alone! Yes, I know it exists. Yes, I know people use it. Yes, I choose not to as a way of supporting the sites I visit. No, you won't convince me to download it.
Sorry, those posts are irritating as hell. Please try to respond with original thoughts. Thank you.
IE took over because Netscape sucked ass. Their product was slow, buggy, and crashed constantly while IE ran ok. Meanwhile, Netscape decided that the best solution to their problem would be to not release a product in several years, allowing Microsoft to expand their marketshare.
I love history-rewriting. The point is, at the time IE came out, Netscape was the only viable competition, and Netscape fucked up. End of story.
I vote "idiot." Microsoft makes special builds of Windows all the freakin' time... hell, there's one in the dashboard of a bunch of BMWs. Plus, as you mentioned, the Xboxes, Windows CE, the crazy ports they did of Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 (including ports to PowerPC and Alpha), etc, etc. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Zune is running something derived from the NT kernel.
"For instance," you can one-click add a favorite folder in the GTK file dialog. Or use the very convenient folder hierarchy buttons to jump to any ancestor folder.
Hell I don't even know what an "ancestor folder" is.
I just know if you're writing a Windows application, you should use Windows file dialogs. If you're writing a Mac application, you should write Mac file dialogs. If you don't, you're doing something wrong.
Guess how many bugs big and small remain unfixed for years in any sizeable piece of software, open source or no open source?
Open dialogs are a solved problem. Hell, sorting file names is a solved problem. Seriously, none of those great OS X developers has decided to fix this bug? None? A bug that would be embarrassing in a Windows 3.11 app?
It's not that it's a big and/or small bug, it's that it's such an obvious bug and nobody's fixed the damned thing.
(1) You submitted a bug, it was noted, taken care of, and routed to the correct party.
Then it was deleted before there was a fix in place.
(2) It is, with all due respect, a cosmetic problem that only manifests itself on a minor proprietary platform that few developers use.
The product isn't intended for developers, it's intended for artists.
For example, on Windows, there were also endless complaints about GTK file dialogs (not that they were particularly bad, they were just unfamiliar - remember, familiarity trumps usability),
Actually, the Windows file dialogs have lots of usability features that the GTK ones do not have, other than just being "unfamiliar." For instance, you can map a network drive in the Windows standard one. Or drag a file into it. The GTK ones are "particularly bad." The fact that GTK doesn't use the OS-standard file dialogs is simply sad... once again, that is a solved problem.
(3) It's not an Inkscape problem and bears no relation to the quality of Inkscape as a vector editor.
I think it's plain from reading the launchpad bug reports that the people working on inkscape and providing their "product" to you for free are doing a great job. If you can't file your bug report in the right place, with the GTK team, how do you expect them to fix it? Or are all open source devs supposed to be your personal slaves.
I don't give a crap about buck-passing. Whether the bug is in Inkscape, GTK, or some guy named "Donnie" in Toronto, all I care about is that the bug I reported stay open until it's fixed. I don't think that's an unrealistic expectation.
Or even to Inkscape list - we have some very dedicated OSX maintainers who may at least confirm the bug, and maybe even fix it for you.
I already added it to the Inkscape list, remember? It was deleted, remember? That's what I was just talking about... remember?
Another Slashdot user has confirmed the bug still exists, BTW, in a sibling post to yours.
In short, do something if you care!
I don't care. I don't even use Inkscape. I tried to for awhile, but when a software program can't even alphabetize a freakin' list correctly, I have no confidence that it can do any other operation correctly, either.
The Inkscape developers care, or at least I thought so-- after all, they solicited bug reports from the public. Now that I know they simply delete the bug reports (or "artifacts!") without fixing the bug, I won't bother reporting any more.
GTK developers obviously don't care, if not one of them has even bothered to download a copy of Inkscape and choose "File->Import" in over a year.
The annoying this is that this happens to me with every single bug report I put in to an open source project, and yet all of those projects keep asking me to put in bug reports. Why? I'm sick of my bugs going unfixed for years at a time, or simply deleted from the tracker (and believe me, Inkscape isn't the first project to delete my bugs.)
Maybe I'll give Inkscape a try again when it reaches version 1.0 in another few decades.
Aren't you aware of the fact that open source is very version-shy, in general? And that a quality of an open source application is not correlated with its version number? I thought this was Slashdot where such things need not be explained.
That's their problem, not mine. If I see "0.46" in front of something, I think "buggy POS with no features." (1.0 also makes me think "buggy POS" with the difference that at least 1.0 has all the features implemented.) The version number system is quite well-established, if the Inkscape coders don't want to use it, then they can do that-- but they also can't complain when normal people like myself look at the version number and think "buggy POS."
Anything involving text? Of course vector, using GIMP/Photoshop for text is self-inflicted torture.
Photoshop stores text as vectors. (Photoshop also has enough vector features to do most, if not all, of the other items on your list-- perhaps a bit more awkwardly, but they can be done.) Doing it in GIMP, yes, is self-inflicted torture, but then again, so is using GIMP at all.
And this is sad. I know Photoshop came first and deeply entrenched itself into the brains of users. But come on people, it's time to give it a second thought. It's 21st century and vector editors have progressed far, far beyond what was available in the 90s.
So has Photoshop. It has a ton of vector features, you seem entirely ignorant of. I'm not saying that Photoshop is the end-all be-all of vector art, obviously Adobe wouldn't snipe sales from their own Illustrator, but it's not nearly as dire as you make it out to be.
It's curious that for your pick, you chose one of the things that is actually common to both Inkscape and GIMP - the file dialog provided by the GTK library! Of course Inkscape does not maliciously missort your files, it's just the default with the GTK version you were using. And I have just searched even deleted and closed bug reports and could not find yours. So, if it's still not fixed in 0.46, please go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape and report it.
Yes, Inkscape doesn't give crap about my bug and simply deletes it. (No doubt without fixing it first.) And it's my job to re-submit the bug? Screw that. What reason do I have to believe it would get fixed the second time? If they don't want my input, if they're just going to delete it without comment, they shouldn't ask for bug reports in the first place.
Whether or not you can find it, it was in there. I know, because I still have the URL it was located at on the craptactular SourceForge.net: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604306&aid=1609779&group_id=93438 It says "Artifact: This Artifact Has Been Made Private. Only Group Members Can View Private ArtifactTypes" which I assume is a retarded SourceForge code for "this bug has been deleted."
From the email, I gather the buck was passed to the "GTK layer" and not by Inkscape itself. I guess it's ok to delete bugs when you pass the buck to some other open source project that also won't bother to fix it. Oh look, there's the link: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391461 "Unconfirmed!"
For the record, I can't test whether it's fixed or not because I don't have a Mac anymore. (At least, not one I'm willing to install X11 on.)
P.S. To any open source developers reading this: If you want bug submissions, please do not use SourceForge.net. It would be hard to find worse bug tracking software.
Final Fantasy sucks. Dragon Quest I've never heard of. Everquest sucks (although it was better before Sony got ahold of it). Kingdom Hearts sucks. "Full metal alchemist?" I think I've vaguely heard of that somewhere before. Castlevania is ok, so is Contra and Metal Gear. Silent Hill doesn't appeal to me at all. Suikoden I've never heard of. DDR is good. Street Fighter is ok.
I like classic RPGs, the Might and Magic series, the Wizardry series, the Gold Box D&D titles. Those are all developed by Americans. My favorite FPS series is Marathon, developed by Bungie in California. Adventure and Yar's Revenge, the best games evar, was made by Atari.
Seriously, though, this is all entirely subjective. You like Final Fantasy, I like Morrowind and Oblivion. You like Kingdom Hearts, I'd rather play something like The Longest Journey. You like Contra, I'd rather play Halo. Metal Gear? Splinter Cell. Etc, etc, etc.
1) If Inkscape is so good, it's version number should at least be 1.0. You can't convince people to download and use pre-alpha software on a daily basis, no matter how 'great' it is. If 0.46 is an accurate description of its version, then it shouldn't be getting press. (It'll get press, people will download it, it'll be a buggy POS, they'll hate the name "Inkscape" for the rest of their days-- bad idea!)
Inkscape, as a vector application, is simply a better choice for a lot of graphic tasks for which clueless people still try to use GIMP or Photoshop. Just look at the "can it draw circles" thread in this discussion!
2) Inkscape is a better choice for graphic tasks that involve vectors. It's not for other graphic tasks. Vector tasks (like making company logos, for example, or program icons) are simply not as common a use-case as bitmap manipulation (photo cleaning.) Yes, I agree that anybody using GIMP or Photoshop for a flow-chart is using the wrong tool. Then again, Inkscape isn't the right tool for that, either-- they'd be better served by something like Visio.
In short, don't assume people are idiots because they talk about GIMP/Photoshop more than vector programs. It's more likely they just use bitmap tools more than they use vector tools.
P.S. Last time I used Inkscape, on X11 on Macintosh, it wasn't even capable of sorting the File->Open dialog in alphabetical order. I reported the bug, and I'd link to it-- except it appears they deleted it from their bug tracker. Classy. Here's a screenshot: http://schend.net/images/screenshots/alphabetical_disorder.png
The reason I don't like Photoshop's UI is for this reason: I have a dual monitor setup and I want my picture to fill all of monitor 1 while my tools sit on monitor 2.
What's the last version of Photoshop you've used? Adobe fixed that in Windows years and years ago.
And it was never an issue in the first place on Macintosh, which has an OS-level concept of tool palette windows which can be dragged to another monitor, but appear/disappear with the main document window. Remember, Photoshop was a Macintosh application first.
Virtual desktops doesn't help in a lot of situations. Say you're editing an image that involves looking at a spreadsheet program side-by-side with the image. (For instance, you're pretty-ify-ing a set of charts.) A virtual desktop can't help you in this situation... you can't put your charts in the same desktop as GIMP, or you have all the same window management headaches the grandparent describes.
The simple point is that all other image editing programs, from the (excuse the pun) gamut from Paint.NET to Photoshop, they all handle windows the same way. GIMP does it a different way for no good reason, and people hate it for that, and GIMP developers are utterly clueless about the whole affair.
Except that OS X and Windows are both better than Linux distributions in a lot of fundamental and important ways. And don't even get me started on MySQL-- what exactly is it better than? It's not even close to as good as PostgreSQL, and both of those products are years behind commercial database vendors, even Microsoft's MSSQL. And Apache, Sendmail and PHP all had first-mover advantage, so they're only ahead of the competition (arguably not, for PHP) only because they're in Adobe's position.
If you're going to add Office to the Lenovo, you gotta add Office to the Mac too. (No, iWork is not equivalent.) Switching from Vista to XP Pro is just stupid, unless you're so drowned in Slashdot propaganda that you're unable to do a fair OS comparison, and I'd also argue that antivirus is unnecessary (or, rather, equally necessary on both OSes)-- especially with Vista.
You might be right that there's no Apples to Oranges comparison between the two products, but you're not helping matters by just cheating in the other direction.
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I still don't get it. Are you saying that the second economist says that the first obviously doesn't want a sportscar because he doesn't already have one? Or because statistically, people in his income bracket don't own sportscars? How is it even a joke?
All it tells me is that, if either of those explanations are true, economist #2 is either an asshole or completely clueless. Or is that the point?
By "moving to Facebook" I was inferring that economists are better off polishing their social interaction skills by attending to that website rather than Slashdot.
But I'm not an economist, I'm already on Facebook, and you told me to "move" to Facebook, not the economist in the joke.
To this end I'm hoping also that you'll support my new group Society for Understanding Commercial Concepts, Economics, and Responsibility. It's dedicated toward replacing all incandescent bright ideas with low-impact flourescents. Free sarcasm filter with every new member.
Yes, see, that I get. But bejeezus you're confusing.
Two economists walk past a Porsche dealer. One says "I'd really like to have one of those new Boxters." The other one looks at him and replies "Obviously not."
Ok, I've run your "joke" past three people now, and none of them have any clue what the sam hill you're talking about.
If you get that joke, I suggest you move to Facebook.
First of all, Facebook is a website... how would I go about "moving" to it? Secondly, I don't get that joke despite already having a Facebook account (if that's what 'move to Facebook' means), so there's something wrong with your assertion here.
In short: MAKE SENSE, DAMNIT!
Yeah and what is giant invisible birds from Venus land in UFOs and raid Google headquarters to find eyeballs to peck out!
Let's worry about actual problems, please. If porn were to become illegal, the US would have MUCH bigger problems than Google knowing what sites you like. And if uptight employers fire me, that's their right-- again it would be a much bigger problem if they weren't allowed to.
Gruh, I should have specifically said "no 'I use AdBlock' responses." Yes, we get it, a lot of Slashdot readers use AdBlock. I understand this. I've read the snarky "the web has ads? I use AdBlock so I don't see them" about 50,000 times this month alone! Yes, I know it exists. Yes, I know people use it. Yes, I choose not to as a way of supporting the sites I visit. No, you won't convince me to download it.
Sorry, those posts are irritating as hell. Please try to respond with original thoughts. Thank you.
They have a "opt-out" cookie value.
http://www.doubleclick.com/privacy/dart_adserving.aspx
The catch being that if you do clear your cookies, you'll have to re-set the opt out cookie as well.
If you care, here's the URL to opt-out of the other big ad network:
http://www.atlassolutions.com/optout.aspx
I don't have all of them, but Doubleclick and Atlas cover something like 75-80% of the market.
You're going to see the ads anyway, why not see ads targeted towards products you're interested in?
I don't care if Google knows what websites I visit. Oooo! A single 29-year-old male goes to porn sites!! How EEEEEVIL of Google to know this!
That post is pretty ironic coming from someone whose sig is making fun of paranoia on Slashdot.
Do the words "Aegis Class Cruiser" ring any bells?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_class_cruiser
Not really, no.
Then explain why IE took off on Macintosh, where it wasn't sold/bundled with the OS?
Yes, IE was bundled. Yes, Netscape sucked ass. Yes, IE would have won out *anyway*, since Netscape sucked ass.
Quick! Get this news out to the wireless room! They might still have time to save the ship!
IE took over because Netscape sucked ass. Their product was slow, buggy, and crashed constantly while IE ran ok. Meanwhile, Netscape decided that the best solution to their problem would be to not release a product in several years, allowing Microsoft to expand their marketshare.
I love history-rewriting. The point is, at the time IE came out, Netscape was the only viable competition, and Netscape fucked up. End of story.
I vote "idiot." Microsoft makes special builds of Windows all the freakin' time... hell, there's one in the dashboard of a bunch of BMWs. Plus, as you mentioned, the Xboxes, Windows CE, the crazy ports they did of Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 (including ports to PowerPC and Alpha), etc, etc. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Zune is running something derived from the NT kernel.
"For instance," you can one-click add a favorite folder in the GTK file dialog. Or use the very convenient folder hierarchy buttons to jump to any ancestor folder.
Hell I don't even know what an "ancestor folder" is.
I just know if you're writing a Windows application, you should use Windows file dialogs. If you're writing a Mac application, you should write Mac file dialogs. If you don't, you're doing something wrong.
Guess how many bugs big and small remain unfixed for years in any sizeable piece of software, open source or no open source?
Open dialogs are a solved problem. Hell, sorting file names is a solved problem. Seriously, none of those great OS X developers has decided to fix this bug? None? A bug that would be embarrassing in a Windows 3.11 app?
It's not that it's a big and/or small bug, it's that it's such an obvious bug and nobody's fixed the damned thing.
(1) You submitted a bug, it was noted, taken care of, and routed to the correct party.
Then it was deleted before there was a fix in place.
(2) It is, with all due respect, a cosmetic problem that only manifests itself on a minor proprietary platform that few developers use.
The product isn't intended for developers, it's intended for artists.
For example, on Windows, there were also endless complaints about GTK file dialogs (not that they were particularly bad, they were just unfamiliar - remember, familiarity trumps usability),
Actually, the Windows file dialogs have lots of usability features that the GTK ones do not have, other than just being "unfamiliar." For instance, you can map a network drive in the Windows standard one. Or drag a file into it. The GTK ones are "particularly bad." The fact that GTK doesn't use the OS-standard file dialogs is simply sad... once again, that is a solved problem.
(3) It's not an Inkscape problem and bears no relation to the quality of Inkscape as a vector editor.
Sure it is, and yes it does.
I think it's plain from reading the launchpad bug reports that the people working on inkscape and providing their "product" to you for free are doing a great job. If you can't file your bug report in the right place, with the GTK team, how do you expect them to fix it? Or are all open source devs supposed to be your personal slaves.
I don't give a crap about buck-passing. Whether the bug is in Inkscape, GTK, or some guy named "Donnie" in Toronto, all I care about is that the bug I reported stay open until it's fixed. I don't think that's an unrealistic expectation.
Or even to Inkscape list - we have some very dedicated OSX maintainers who may at least confirm the bug, and maybe even fix it for you.
I already added it to the Inkscape list, remember? It was deleted, remember? That's what I was just talking about... remember?
Another Slashdot user has confirmed the bug still exists, BTW, in a sibling post to yours.
In short, do something if you care!
I don't care. I don't even use Inkscape. I tried to for awhile, but when a software program can't even alphabetize a freakin' list correctly, I have no confidence that it can do any other operation correctly, either.
The Inkscape developers care, or at least I thought so-- after all, they solicited bug reports from the public. Now that I know they simply delete the bug reports (or "artifacts!") without fixing the bug, I won't bother reporting any more.
GTK developers obviously don't care, if not one of them has even bothered to download a copy of Inkscape and choose "File->Import" in over a year.
The annoying this is that this happens to me with every single bug report I put in to an open source project, and yet all of those projects keep asking me to put in bug reports. Why? I'm sick of my bugs going unfixed for years at a time, or simply deleted from the tracker (and believe me, Inkscape isn't the first project to delete my bugs.)
Maybe I'll give Inkscape a try again when it reaches version 1.0 in another few decades.
Aren't you aware of the fact that open source is very version-shy, in general? And that a quality of an open source application is not correlated with its version number? I thought this was Slashdot where such things need not be explained.
That's their problem, not mine. If I see "0.46" in front of something, I think "buggy POS with no features." (1.0 also makes me think "buggy POS" with the difference that at least 1.0 has all the features implemented.) The version number system is quite well-established, if the Inkscape coders don't want to use it, then they can do that-- but they also can't complain when normal people like myself look at the version number and think "buggy POS."
Anything involving text? Of course vector, using GIMP/Photoshop for text is self-inflicted torture.
Photoshop stores text as vectors. (Photoshop also has enough vector features to do most, if not all, of the other items on your list-- perhaps a bit more awkwardly, but they can be done.) Doing it in GIMP, yes, is self-inflicted torture, but then again, so is using GIMP at all.
And this is sad. I know Photoshop came first and deeply entrenched itself into the brains of users. But come on people, it's time to give it a second thought. It's 21st century and vector editors have progressed far, far beyond what was available in the 90s.
So has Photoshop. It has a ton of vector features, you seem entirely ignorant of. I'm not saying that Photoshop is the end-all be-all of vector art, obviously Adobe wouldn't snipe sales from their own Illustrator, but it's not nearly as dire as you make it out to be.
It's curious that for your pick, you chose one of the things that is actually common to both Inkscape and GIMP - the file dialog provided by the GTK library! Of course Inkscape does not maliciously missort your files, it's just the default with the GTK version you were using. And I have just searched even deleted and closed bug reports and could not find yours. So, if it's still not fixed in 0.46, please go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape and report it.
Yes, Inkscape doesn't give crap about my bug and simply deletes it. (No doubt without fixing it first.) And it's my job to re-submit the bug? Screw that. What reason do I have to believe it would get fixed the second time? If they don't want my input, if they're just going to delete it without comment, they shouldn't ask for bug reports in the first place.
Whether or not you can find it, it was in there. I know, because I still have the URL it was located at on the craptactular SourceForge.net: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604306&aid=1609779&group_id=93438 It says "Artifact: This Artifact Has Been Made Private. Only Group Members Can View Private ArtifactTypes" which I assume is a retarded SourceForge code for "this bug has been deleted."
From the email, I gather the buck was passed to the "GTK layer" and not by Inkscape itself. I guess it's ok to delete bugs when you pass the buck to some other open source project that also won't bother to fix it. Oh look, there's the link: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391461 "Unconfirmed!"
For the record, I can't test whether it's fixed or not because I don't have a Mac anymore. (At least, not one I'm willing to install X11 on.)
P.S. To any open source developers reading this: If you want bug submissions, please do not use SourceForge.net. It would be hard to find worse bug tracking software.
Final Fantasy sucks. Dragon Quest I've never heard of. Everquest sucks (although it was better before Sony got ahold of it). Kingdom Hearts sucks. "Full metal alchemist?" I think I've vaguely heard of that somewhere before.
Castlevania is ok, so is Contra and Metal Gear. Silent Hill doesn't appeal to me at all. Suikoden I've never heard of. DDR is good.
Street Fighter is ok.
I like classic RPGs, the Might and Magic series, the Wizardry series, the Gold Box D&D titles. Those are all developed by Americans. My favorite FPS series is Marathon, developed by Bungie in California. Adventure and Yar's Revenge, the best games evar, was made by Atari.
Seriously, though, this is all entirely subjective. You like Final Fantasy, I like Morrowind and Oblivion. You like Kingdom Hearts, I'd rather play something like The Longest Journey. You like Contra, I'd rather play Halo. Metal Gear? Splinter Cell. Etc, etc, etc.
A couple things:
1) If Inkscape is so good, it's version number should at least be 1.0. You can't convince people to download and use pre-alpha software on a daily basis, no matter how 'great' it is. If 0.46 is an accurate description of its version, then it shouldn't be getting press. (It'll get press, people will download it, it'll be a buggy POS, they'll hate the name "Inkscape" for the rest of their days-- bad idea!)
Inkscape, as a vector application, is simply a better choice for a lot of graphic tasks for which clueless people still try to use GIMP or Photoshop. Just look at the "can it draw circles" thread in this discussion!
2) Inkscape is a better choice for graphic tasks that involve vectors. It's not for other graphic tasks. Vector tasks (like making company logos, for example, or program icons) are simply not as common a use-case as bitmap manipulation (photo cleaning.) Yes, I agree that anybody using GIMP or Photoshop for a flow-chart is using the wrong tool. Then again, Inkscape isn't the right tool for that, either-- they'd be better served by something like Visio.
In short, don't assume people are idiots because they talk about GIMP/Photoshop more than vector programs. It's more likely they just use bitmap tools more than they use vector tools.
P.S. Last time I used Inkscape, on X11 on Macintosh, it wasn't even capable of sorting the File->Open dialog in alphabetical order. I reported the bug, and I'd link to it-- except it appears they deleted it from their bug tracker. Classy. Here's a screenshot:
http://schend.net/images/screenshots/alphabetical_disorder.png
Oh yes, "cripple." That's muuuch better!
The reason I don't like Photoshop's UI is for this reason: I have a dual monitor setup and I want my picture to fill all of monitor 1 while my tools sit on monitor 2.
What's the last version of Photoshop you've used? Adobe fixed that in Windows years and years ago.
And it was never an issue in the first place on Macintosh, which has an OS-level concept of tool palette windows which can be dragged to another monitor, but appear/disappear with the main document window. Remember, Photoshop was a Macintosh application first.
Virtual desktops doesn't help in a lot of situations. Say you're editing an image that involves looking at a spreadsheet program side-by-side with the image. (For instance, you're pretty-ify-ing a set of charts.) A virtual desktop can't help you in this situation... you can't put your charts in the same desktop as GIMP, or you have all the same window management headaches the grandparent describes.
The simple point is that all other image editing programs, from the (excuse the pun) gamut from Paint.NET to Photoshop, they all handle windows the same way. GIMP does it a different way for no good reason, and people hate it for that, and GIMP developers are utterly clueless about the whole affair.
Except that OS X and Windows are both better than Linux distributions in a lot of fundamental and important ways. And don't even get me started on MySQL-- what exactly is it better than? It's not even close to as good as PostgreSQL, and both of those products are years behind commercial database vendors, even Microsoft's MSSQL. And Apache, Sendmail and PHP all had first-mover advantage, so they're only ahead of the competition (arguably not, for PHP) only because they're in Adobe's position.
Your argument does not compel.
Whoa there, Skippy.
If you're going to add Office to the Lenovo, you gotta add Office to the Mac too. (No, iWork is not equivalent.) Switching from Vista to XP Pro is just stupid, unless you're so drowned in Slashdot propaganda that you're unable to do a fair OS comparison, and I'd also argue that antivirus is unnecessary (or, rather, equally necessary on both OSes)-- especially with Vista.
You might be right that there's no Apples to Oranges comparison between the two products, but you're not helping matters by just cheating in the other direction.
With few exceptions the best games are all Made In Japan.
Wow, that's stirring up a hornet's nest. I'm calling BS, or at best "matter of taste", on that one buddy.