You gave absolutely no clues of such. You could have been talking about any two party fascist state. Nevermind that the exact same thing that is going on in the US is happening in the UK and indeed the entire western world.
And that is different than our current system, how exactly?
But of course, I was talking about a specific ACTION, rather than making a statement about the entire system. But you would rather host a pedantry exhibition while America burns.
Merger of government and corporate power. They are creating a tax that will hurt small and medium businesses, while their burden is cancelled out by grants and subsidies. This is a clear move to use the sword of government to cut down the competition. This is the DEFINITION of fascism.
So there can only be Republicans or Democrats? Is it even possible for a person to think in a way that is different from those two corrupt and fascist ideologies?
Actually, I think the rest of you will tear yourselves apart. Good riddance to thieving rubbish. Too bad you will wind up killing everyone on the island in your vain attempts to deflect the blame for the complete and total failure of your policies. Nothing like a nice war against the enemy of the week to stop the proles from discovering that the king can't command the tide.
No government doesn't mean no rules. If it did, cruises would never make it back from international waters, because everyone would have raped each other to death.
You know, these days you can charge a lot more for kinda crappy dishes than for perfectly manufactured ones. The kinda crappy ones get a premium because they are "hand made". Indeed, there is hardly an item around that you can't sell for a premium with those magic words on them.
Once the machines are able to imitate humans on things that we have long thought only humans can do, it won't matter, because the singularity won't be long behind.
People make the mistake of thinking that wealth is money. Wealth is not money, wealth is the ability to purchase GOODS. When many goods are free, and the remainder are super cheap because automation has reduced costs to practically nothing (and there is competition), then prices plunge until its not worth it to have most people pay for things. Rather, a few people pay for premium goods, which covers the cost of all the free stuff. A few people buying things advertised on Slashdot is enough to keep this thread going, even though each post costs money to store and serve (less than a penny per pageload).
You get deflation, but deflation is GOOD. It encourages savings, which enables capital investment, which allows for more and better robots, which further decreases prices. Modern economists claim that deflation is bad because they have a sick and twisted world perspective, like a cargo cult, and the result is that the world economy is falling apart. When we get deflation from increased production, it benefits EVERYONE.
For more internet metaphors, think about online content creators. Do we have to pay people for commenting on forums, or writing blog posts, or making cool videos? How about for designing objects that can be fabricated with a 3d printer? Sure, some people get paid for doing that, but most don't, or they get paid some pittance. But they still do it, and those goods are freely available.
There will come a time when the same can be said for much more physical goods. Perhaps it will be cheaper to simply distribute flour, rice, milk, eggs and sugar through futuristic food banks than it is to sell it (like getting free chips and salsa at a Mexican restaurant). People can load them into their food printers and get what they like out of them. Then they pay a pittance for robot picked fruit and vegetables, the proceeds from which fund the distribution of the aforementioned staples. Perhaps there are very few restaurants because everyone can print their own six star food at home, and chefs spend their time dreaming up new procedures for those new kitchen tools. They publish these procedures for free, which drums up premium business for them, where they come hand prepare a meal for your party, or you come to their restaurant for the EXPERIENCE, rather than for the excellent food.
Whenever you hear "this time it's different", or any variation of that, alarm sirens should start going off. Such notions are almost always incorrect.
Unemployment rates are higher because of taxes and regulations destroying small businesses, PERIOD. Sort states or counties by levels of regulatory burden and tax rates, and you will see what I am talking about. Or don't, because that might hurt your feelings, and we wouldn't want that.
By my estimate, there are about 28 quintillion slaves. You're right, the bullshit I just made up is AWFUL!
FYI, 10 million slaves on a planet with 7 billion people is about 0.15%. Not exactly an overwhelming number, considering that well prior to industrialization, half the population might have been slaves.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you saying that working conditions are the same today as they were in the days of feudalism? Are you high or just stupid?
lol, I guess that there is no such thing as incremental improvement, and therefore everything is the worst it has ever or can ever be.
Here's a hint for you: a slave's children would be slaves, forever and ever. A sharecropper's child might be a sharecropper, but much more likely would work in a factory. That factory worker's child might also work in a factory, but would more likely have had some schooling, and work as skilled labor. The child of that skilled laborer would probably go to college, and from there do what they wanted. Unlike the slave, who's great grandchildren are, you know, still slaves. Same with serfs, I might add. But hey, let's ignore reality and claim that everyone is still a slave for some reason.
Oh, I'm so sorry you can't print fucking toothpaste, food, high tech devices, or fucking energy. I guess that is the sum total of all things in the universe.
Ri~ight, so extensive and in-depth reviews, like those made by Redlettermedia (Mr. Plinkett's Reviews) aren't reviews either, I guess? They are often longer than the movie he is reviewing, and clearly take a lot of effort to make. More germane to this particular article, Angry Video Game Nerd would probably be pretty pissed at this.
Looks like bullshit. Feels like bullshit. Smells like bullshit. Tastes like bullshit. Oh yeah, diarrhea dump in the ear confirms that it sounds like bullshit too. 5/5.
Yes, but 3d printers today are the equivalent of dot-matrix printers. They can and will improve. They will incorporate new materials and techniques, and products will be designed to be created by those techniques.
People in rural England in the 1600's might not have been able to imagine how much their lives would be changed by mechanical looms, but it happened. Their lives changed so much that people can't even begin to imagine what those people's lives were like, to the point that they decry industrialization as being "evil".
Perhaps you should buy a dictionary (or look at one for FREE online) and find the definitions of the words "many" and "all". Compare and contrast them.
You charge what the market will bear, yes. Then someone else comes and charges a few cents less. Then you charge a few cents less. Then someone comes along and charges a bit less than that, and so on, until price approaches marginal costs, at which point no-one is willing to enter the saturated and highly competetive market.
Robot produced goods only cost a lot when there is little or no competition.
Yes, labor theory of value HAS BEEN disproved. You can see it every time you go to the supermarket. Otherwise, you would pay wildly fluctuating prices for commodity goods, because every company has differing labor costs.
When you are competing with the entire planet on pricing, prices are set at the margin. This is why things on the internet are free, despite the fact that it takes both time and money to produce and serve content.
Uhh, prices approach marginal costs in a competitive system. Maybe you should crack open an Econ 101 textbooks before you mistake capitalism for communism again?
Also, good job ignoring the fact that you aren't paying so much as a nickel to post comments that can be read across the world for years, decades, or even centuries.
Handling solids is harder than handling liquids. The problem with the German pebble bed reactor was caused by one of the pebbles getting jammed in the feeding tube. Further, the pebbles were coated in graphite, which would be a disaster in the case of a fire.
LFTR suffers no such problems.
And yes, anyone who has ever worked with solid state manufacturing could have told you that pebble beds would be a disaster for those exact reasons. There is a reason why most manufacturing processes take place in the liquid state, even if the final product is a solid. Hell, it's easier to work with molten metal than it is to work with solid plastics.
Also, good job working in a Chernobyl reference. Appeal to fear is an effective, if unforgivable debate strategy.
Christ, could you make more shit up? The first practical application of industrial manufacturing was textile production. Computers have NEVER had a significant role in genocide, and their first wartime application was for DEFENSE (ie calculation of trajectories of incoming shells). In fact, you don't really see a lot of genocide in places that have a lot of computers, and the general level of genocide has fallen dramatically since the adoption of the computer.
To here you talk, you would think that every square foot of the earth was at war, when the fact is that the Earth is more peaceful now than it has been for thousands of years. Of course, we have nukes to thank for that, not industrialization or computers, though those things certainly helped with their development.
I invite you to go live in the forest and let those who want to make the world a better place through development of technology do so without having to answer your stupid feelings.
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Complaining helps, actually. It is when the complaints are silenced that you know it's all over.
You gave absolutely no clues of such. You could have been talking about any two party fascist state. Nevermind that the exact same thing that is going on in the US is happening in the UK and indeed the entire western world.
And that is different than our current system, how exactly?
But of course, I was talking about a specific ACTION, rather than making a statement about the entire system. But you would rather host a pedantry exhibition while America burns.
Merger of government and corporate power. They are creating a tax that will hurt small and medium businesses, while their burden is cancelled out by grants and subsidies. This is a clear move to use the sword of government to cut down the competition. This is the DEFINITION of fascism.
The west as a whole has declined into Fascism. You can only expect fascist policy to take hold.
So there can only be Republicans or Democrats? Is it even possible for a person to think in a way that is different from those two corrupt and fascist ideologies?
Nice logic there.
Actually, I think the rest of you will tear yourselves apart. Good riddance to thieving rubbish. Too bad you will wind up killing everyone on the island in your vain attempts to deflect the blame for the complete and total failure of your policies. Nothing like a nice war against the enemy of the week to stop the proles from discovering that the king can't command the tide.
No government doesn't mean no rules. If it did, cruises would never make it back from international waters, because everyone would have raped each other to death.
You know, these days you can charge a lot more for kinda crappy dishes than for perfectly manufactured ones. The kinda crappy ones get a premium because they are "hand made". Indeed, there is hardly an item around that you can't sell for a premium with those magic words on them.
Once the machines are able to imitate humans on things that we have long thought only humans can do, it won't matter, because the singularity won't be long behind.
People make the mistake of thinking that wealth is money. Wealth is not money, wealth is the ability to purchase GOODS. When many goods are free, and the remainder are super cheap because automation has reduced costs to practically nothing (and there is competition), then prices plunge until its not worth it to have most people pay for things. Rather, a few people pay for premium goods, which covers the cost of all the free stuff. A few people buying things advertised on Slashdot is enough to keep this thread going, even though each post costs money to store and serve (less than a penny per pageload).
You get deflation, but deflation is GOOD. It encourages savings, which enables capital investment, which allows for more and better robots, which further decreases prices. Modern economists claim that deflation is bad because they have a sick and twisted world perspective, like a cargo cult, and the result is that the world economy is falling apart. When we get deflation from increased production, it benefits EVERYONE.
For more internet metaphors, think about online content creators. Do we have to pay people for commenting on forums, or writing blog posts, or making cool videos? How about for designing objects that can be fabricated with a 3d printer? Sure, some people get paid for doing that, but most don't, or they get paid some pittance. But they still do it, and those goods are freely available.
There will come a time when the same can be said for much more physical goods. Perhaps it will be cheaper to simply distribute flour, rice, milk, eggs and sugar through futuristic food banks than it is to sell it (like getting free chips and salsa at a Mexican restaurant). People can load them into their food printers and get what they like out of them. Then they pay a pittance for robot picked fruit and vegetables, the proceeds from which fund the distribution of the aforementioned staples. Perhaps there are very few restaurants because everyone can print their own six star food at home, and chefs spend their time dreaming up new procedures for those new kitchen tools. They publish these procedures for free, which drums up premium business for them, where they come hand prepare a meal for your party, or you come to their restaurant for the EXPERIENCE, rather than for the excellent food.
Whenever you hear "this time it's different", or any variation of that, alarm sirens should start going off. Such notions are almost always incorrect.
Unemployment rates are higher because of taxes and regulations destroying small businesses, PERIOD. Sort states or counties by levels of regulatory burden and tax rates, and you will see what I am talking about. Or don't, because that might hurt your feelings, and we wouldn't want that.
Whatever. Go live in North Korea if you want to eschew advancement in favor of employment.
By my estimate, there are about 28 quintillion slaves. You're right, the bullshit I just made up is AWFUL!
FYI, 10 million slaves on a planet with 7 billion people is about 0.15%. Not exactly an overwhelming number, considering that well prior to industrialization, half the population might have been slaves.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you saying that working conditions are the same today as they were in the days of feudalism? Are you high or just stupid?
lol, I guess that there is no such thing as incremental improvement, and therefore everything is the worst it has ever or can ever be.
Here's a hint for you: a slave's children would be slaves, forever and ever. A sharecropper's child might be a sharecropper, but much more likely would work in a factory. That factory worker's child might also work in a factory, but would more likely have had some schooling, and work as skilled labor. The child of that skilled laborer would probably go to college, and from there do what they wanted. Unlike the slave, who's great grandchildren are, you know, still slaves. Same with serfs, I might add. But hey, let's ignore reality and claim that everyone is still a slave for some reason.
Oh, I'm so sorry you can't print fucking toothpaste, food, high tech devices, or fucking energy. I guess that is the sum total of all things in the universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySaC_z12GY
Ri~ight, so extensive and in-depth reviews, like those made by Redlettermedia (Mr. Plinkett's Reviews) aren't reviews either, I guess? They are often longer than the movie he is reviewing, and clearly take a lot of effort to make. More germane to this particular article, Angry Video Game Nerd would probably be pretty pissed at this.
Looks like bullshit. Feels like bullshit. Smells like bullshit. Tastes like bullshit. Oh yeah, diarrhea dump in the ear confirms that it sounds like bullshit too. 5/5.
Yes, but 3d printers today are the equivalent of dot-matrix printers. They can and will improve. They will incorporate new materials and techniques, and products will be designed to be created by those techniques.
People in rural England in the 1600's might not have been able to imagine how much their lives would be changed by mechanical looms, but it happened. Their lives changed so much that people can't even begin to imagine what those people's lives were like, to the point that they decry industrialization as being "evil".
Perhaps you should buy a dictionary (or look at one for FREE online) and find the definitions of the words "many" and "all". Compare and contrast them.
You charge what the market will bear, yes. Then someone else comes and charges a few cents less. Then you charge a few cents less. Then someone comes along and charges a bit less than that, and so on, until price approaches marginal costs, at which point no-one is willing to enter the saturated and highly competetive market.
Robot produced goods only cost a lot when there is little or no competition.
Yes, labor theory of value HAS BEEN disproved. You can see it every time you go to the supermarket. Otherwise, you would pay wildly fluctuating prices for commodity goods, because every company has differing labor costs.
When you are competing with the entire planet on pricing, prices are set at the margin. This is why things on the internet are free, despite the fact that it takes both time and money to produce and serve content.
Uhh, prices approach marginal costs in a competitive system. Maybe you should crack open an Econ 101 textbooks before you mistake capitalism for communism again?
Also, good job ignoring the fact that you aren't paying so much as a nickel to post comments that can be read across the world for years, decades, or even centuries.
Handling solids is harder than handling liquids. The problem with the German pebble bed reactor was caused by one of the pebbles getting jammed in the feeding tube. Further, the pebbles were coated in graphite, which would be a disaster in the case of a fire.
LFTR suffers no such problems.
And yes, anyone who has ever worked with solid state manufacturing could have told you that pebble beds would be a disaster for those exact reasons. There is a reason why most manufacturing processes take place in the liquid state, even if the final product is a solid. Hell, it's easier to work with molten metal than it is to work with solid plastics.
Also, good job working in a Chernobyl reference. Appeal to fear is an effective, if unforgivable debate strategy.
China is also working on it. Both just started a couple of years ago.
Maybe they will be nice to us and sell us some reactors. But then, maybe they won't. Which is why we should develop the tech ourselves.
Christ, could you make more shit up? The first practical application of industrial manufacturing was textile production. Computers have NEVER had a significant role in genocide, and their first wartime application was for DEFENSE (ie calculation of trajectories of incoming shells). In fact, you don't really see a lot of genocide in places that have a lot of computers, and the general level of genocide has fallen dramatically since the adoption of the computer.
To here you talk, you would think that every square foot of the earth was at war, when the fact is that the Earth is more peaceful now than it has been for thousands of years. Of course, we have nukes to thank for that, not industrialization or computers, though those things certainly helped with their development.
I invite you to go live in the forest and let those who want to make the world a better place through development of technology do so without having to answer your stupid feelings.