Now it is well over 24 hours later. Still no video. A delayed video showcasing their new delivery mechanism would have been great. Where is it? I don't know, maybe you and the rest of the nerd rage team can see it as it is shoved far up the ass of the collective NASA project administration.
Also, your claim of no communications is bullshit. There was no breathless moment here. I watched the whole thing. It was continuous communication. I guess maybe they CAN transmit during atmospheric entry, given that the atmosphere is 1/100th as dense as Earth's.
But hey, you don't want to make space travel accessible to the next generation of potential scientists, keep doing what you're doing. Set expectations at the barest of minimums, and yell and scream at anyone who dares to compare current missions with past ones.
Uhh, who the fuck said anything about "high bandwidth"? I just wanted a little stream of video, which SHOULD IN FACT be much simpler to do than the analog signal they broadcast live so long ago.
Great, so you are saying that with all our technological advancement over the last 40 years, we can't stream a low res even black and white image along with the communications stream? It's not as difficult as you claim it is.
I think you are just butthurt that someone is criticizing your precious.
Given the number of different places on the Earth, I would be quite surprised to see fewer than three once in a century events at any given time. Within the same decade seems very LOW, actually. Further, assuming that his statistical analysis is valid (I am not a statistician, so I can't really make the judgment), the summary seams to use a leap to conclusions mat to determine that this is a result of global warming, something which is supposed to affect climate, which is multi-decade, not single decade.
Also, how do you know what once in a century in Texas is actually like? It's only been settled by Westerners for a few hundred years, and only really had good weather observation for 100, maybe longer in a few places. Further, it has been my experience that people tend to apply their normalcy bias and lower the probability of cyclical bad events. I remember back in the 90's when we were hearing about all these 100 and 500 year floods in the midwest, and even then that struck me as terribly unlikely. Whether there is an unknown weather cycle that brings increased temperature variation, or whether application of a small temperature increase causes both increased temperature and weather variation (rather than just raising the baseline) is in question. Further, there is a certain amount of complexity here, as CO2 concentrations are greatly increased around urban centers, as well as humidity levels (both from combustion of fuels and from the inability of the concrete to absorb significant amounts of precipitation). As there are many urban centers around the world, that is something that can not be ignored. Finding out which is the most significant culprit is thus very important, as it will effect the remediation technique that must be used. Do we need to ban ICEs in the city limits of cities over 100,000? Or do we need to seed clouds from the tallest towers in those cities, while making a transition to underground water runoff storage?
Yes, I am "emotional" therefore the burden of proof falls on the one saying that something doesn't exist. Great logic there.
Show me proof of a soul, and I will believe in it. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop spreading your self-superior agnostic crap. Hurr durr strung lunguage pruvs u r rong.
43 years ago, and they managed to transmit this, but with all of our technology, we apparently can't for some reason, and anyone who asks why is met with a dozen comments of pure NERD RAGE. No wonder this country is going down the tubes.
Secondhand radio is a giant leap BACKWARDS. Look at that video from 40 years ago, and tell me why kids aren't interested in space anymore, while they were back then.
Noting that they didn't do what Apollo did forty years ago is the opposite of ignorance. Indeed, it seems that the rabid geeks on here don't know anything about what makes actual human beings tick, and absolutely refuse to accept any sort of criticism, or even comparison to past achievement.
Nobody cares about a landing on either? I wonder why that would be. Surely it has nothing to do with the inaccessibility of it when it is just described to us like we have time warped back to the era of radio. Yes, it must just be that people are all a big bunch of stupid heads now.
Perhaps we should call up the 1970's and ask them how THEY did it?
Bunch of defensive morons in here. No-one has explained to me why live picture was possible in the stone age on the moon, but is impossible today, and apparently I am an asshole for asking, and should just shut up and dance around at images of high-fiving engineers like "everyone" else. You know, despite the fact that interest in space has declined to the point that the space program is in serious danger of being cut back to almost nothing, having already been cut to nearly nothing.
As I recall, images of the lunar lander were transmitted live as the landing happened, and were relayed to TVs around the US/world. Yet here, there is apparently no such footage. So far, just a thumbnail of the tire. How many decades have passed since Apollo? Do we really need to tell these idiots that they are a public relations firm in addition to a scientific organization, and that for them to continue to receive cash money, they need to inspire people with their work? Watching a bunch of engineers high-five each other is not what I stayed up half the night for. I wanted to see footage of the lander as it performed it's crazy descent. But that is too much for NASA to handle, I guess.
Like, woah, dude. Anyone who points out your bullshit is, like, a "troll". Dude, what if this internet stuff worked in real life? We could make, like, anything, be, like, the way we wanted it to be.
Christ almighty, you don't even know what property is.
Human beings aren't property. EVER. To consider them as such is a violation of natural rights, and to conflate a system where they are such with one where they aren't is to compare a room that is clean with one that is ankle deeps in sewage and be unable to find a difference.
You go ahead and live in sewage, I'll take freedom and clean living, thanks.
And FYI, property rights come from the concept of homesteading, and no-where else. They are transferable (voluntarily) once established. They can also be abandoned. Not so under feudalism. Everything belongs to the guy with the biggest army, and everyone else gets their "rights" from him, at his will, to the extent they can field an army for him, or for themselves. Maybe someday you will understand the difference, and maybe you will notice the diametrically opposed methods, and the diametrically opposed outcomes. Until that day, I invite you to go live in North Korea, where your ideas have been fully implemented, and no-one may own any capital of any sort.
That thesis, if true, is on the verge of its final test. The fact is that that was the idea prior to Reagan taking office (the libertarian Goldwater Republicans). But Reagan threw that idea out the window and allowed Volcker to avert a currency crisis by raising interest rates above the inflation rate. If such was their goal, Obama is their greatest champion, with Bush II being their second greatest.
Do you have two IDs? And you have them arguing with each other?
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Also, the burden of proof is always on the idiot claiming that some magical unobservable thing exists, not on the person who sees such idiotic claims and claims it doesn't exist. This is the case for magical self containers, deities, and sentient floating amalgams of pasta and meatballs.
Uhh, you do know that there are opposing philosophies in the world, right? People even still subscribe to failed philosophies to such an extent that they are willing to kill millions for them, despite vast amounts of evidence showing that their philosophy is flat out wrong.
Philosophy is like math but without rigor, or even an equal sign. Sure, sometimes it can be right, but you can express literally anything, including counterfactual nonsense, just as easily as you can express the truth.
Virtually all idiots and morons have believed that shit too.
Being "smart" doesn't make your beliefs true, especially when you allow your cognitive biases to run wild because you don't even know what cognitive biases are, much less how to elucidate their presence or compensate for them.
No, he isn't, you bleeding retard. Or are you saying that brain surgery somehow affects the soul separately from the brain, and that changes in behavior and perception after such surgery is caused by something that affects something that is magically correlated at 1:1 with brain tissue?
Like, whoa, dude, citing "quantum theory" lets you make any argument while pretending to be right. Awesome, man. We're all a bunch of dreaming dolphins floating around in space. Quantum theory says so, man, cause like, ANYTHING can happen, even if it has infinitely low probability. That low probability makes it, like, more likely to happen, cause I read Hitchhikers Guide in high school.
Yes, they will, because I PUBLISHED THE RESULTS OF MY WORK. Failure to share one's discoveries limits the utility of research to a single lifetime, and to a single person, or a close group of associates. It's like patents run to insane lengths, where no-one can ever use the technology again after the death of the original creator.
What those people did doesn't matter to human civilization outside of the novelty that ancient people might have worked with electricity on a primitive basis. They did not seek greater understanding, or even share the usefulness of their work with others in their own time. It might as well have not existed.
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Now it is well over 24 hours later. Still no video. A delayed video showcasing their new delivery mechanism would have been great. Where is it? I don't know, maybe you and the rest of the nerd rage team can see it as it is shoved far up the ass of the collective NASA project administration.
Also, your claim of no communications is bullshit. There was no breathless moment here. I watched the whole thing. It was continuous communication. I guess maybe they CAN transmit during atmospheric entry, given that the atmosphere is 1/100th as dense as Earth's.
But hey, you don't want to make space travel accessible to the next generation of potential scientists, keep doing what you're doing. Set expectations at the barest of minimums, and yell and scream at anyone who dares to compare current missions with past ones.
1969. 2012. Do you understand the difference?
Uhh, who the fuck said anything about "high bandwidth"? I just wanted a little stream of video, which SHOULD IN FACT be much simpler to do than the analog signal they broadcast live so long ago.
Great, so you are saying that with all our technological advancement over the last 40 years, we can't stream a low res even black and white image along with the communications stream? It's not as difficult as you claim it is.
I think you are just butthurt that someone is criticizing your precious.
Given the number of different places on the Earth, I would be quite surprised to see fewer than three once in a century events at any given time. Within the same decade seems very LOW, actually. Further, assuming that his statistical analysis is valid (I am not a statistician, so I can't really make the judgment), the summary seams to use a leap to conclusions mat to determine that this is a result of global warming, something which is supposed to affect climate, which is multi-decade, not single decade.
Also, how do you know what once in a century in Texas is actually like? It's only been settled by Westerners for a few hundred years, and only really had good weather observation for 100, maybe longer in a few places. Further, it has been my experience that people tend to apply their normalcy bias and lower the probability of cyclical bad events. I remember back in the 90's when we were hearing about all these 100 and 500 year floods in the midwest, and even then that struck me as terribly unlikely. Whether there is an unknown weather cycle that brings increased temperature variation, or whether application of a small temperature increase causes both increased temperature and weather variation (rather than just raising the baseline) is in question. Further, there is a certain amount of complexity here, as CO2 concentrations are greatly increased around urban centers, as well as humidity levels (both from combustion of fuels and from the inability of the concrete to absorb significant amounts of precipitation). As there are many urban centers around the world, that is something that can not be ignored. Finding out which is the most significant culprit is thus very important, as it will effect the remediation technique that must be used. Do we need to ban ICEs in the city limits of cities over 100,000? Or do we need to seed clouds from the tallest towers in those cities, while making a transition to underground water runoff storage?
Yes, I am "emotional" therefore the burden of proof falls on the one saying that something doesn't exist. Great logic there.
Show me proof of a soul, and I will believe in it. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop spreading your self-superior agnostic crap. Hurr durr strung lunguage pruvs u r rong.
That, and you, are stupid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOGsNzC7v_4
43 years ago, and they managed to transmit this, but with all of our technology, we apparently can't for some reason, and anyone who asks why is met with a dozen comments of pure NERD RAGE. No wonder this country is going down the tubes.
That's all great and all, but where is the footage!?
It's like no-one remembers the awe-inspiring first moon landing. Well here, let me fucking remind you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOGsNzC7v_4
Secondhand radio is a giant leap BACKWARDS. Look at that video from 40 years ago, and tell me why kids aren't interested in space anymore, while they were back then.
Noting that they didn't do what Apollo did forty years ago is the opposite of ignorance. Indeed, it seems that the rabid geeks on here don't know anything about what makes actual human beings tick, and absolutely refuse to accept any sort of criticism, or even comparison to past achievement.
Nobody cares about a landing on either? I wonder why that would be. Surely it has nothing to do with the inaccessibility of it when it is just described to us like we have time warped back to the era of radio. Yes, it must just be that people are all a big bunch of stupid heads now.
Ok, I'll call Apollo and ask what they used. You know, forty years ago.
Perhaps we should call up the 1970's and ask them how THEY did it?
Bunch of defensive morons in here. No-one has explained to me why live picture was possible in the stone age on the moon, but is impossible today, and apparently I am an asshole for asking, and should just shut up and dance around at images of high-fiving engineers like "everyone" else. You know, despite the fact that interest in space has declined to the point that the space program is in serious danger of being cut back to almost nothing, having already been cut to nearly nothing.
As I recall, images of the lunar lander were transmitted live as the landing happened, and were relayed to TVs around the US/world. Yet here, there is apparently no such footage. So far, just a thumbnail of the tire. How many decades have passed since Apollo? Do we really need to tell these idiots that they are a public relations firm in addition to a scientific organization, and that for them to continue to receive cash money, they need to inspire people with their work? Watching a bunch of engineers high-five each other is not what I stayed up half the night for. I wanted to see footage of the lander as it performed it's crazy descent. But that is too much for NASA to handle, I guess.
Like, woah, dude. Anyone who points out your bullshit is, like, a "troll". Dude, what if this internet stuff worked in real life? We could make, like, anything, be, like, the way we wanted it to be.
Dude!
Christ almighty, you don't even know what property is.
Human beings aren't property. EVER. To consider them as such is a violation of natural rights, and to conflate a system where they are such with one where they aren't is to compare a room that is clean with one that is ankle deeps in sewage and be unable to find a difference.
You go ahead and live in sewage, I'll take freedom and clean living, thanks.
And FYI, property rights come from the concept of homesteading, and no-where else. They are transferable (voluntarily) once established. They can also be abandoned. Not so under feudalism. Everything belongs to the guy with the biggest army, and everyone else gets their "rights" from him, at his will, to the extent they can field an army for him, or for themselves. Maybe someday you will understand the difference, and maybe you will notice the diametrically opposed methods, and the diametrically opposed outcomes. Until that day, I invite you to go live in North Korea, where your ideas have been fully implemented, and no-one may own any capital of any sort.
That thesis, if true, is on the verge of its final test. The fact is that that was the idea prior to Reagan taking office (the libertarian Goldwater Republicans). But Reagan threw that idea out the window and allowed Volcker to avert a currency crisis by raising interest rates above the inflation rate. If such was their goal, Obama is their greatest champion, with Bush II being their second greatest.
Do you have two IDs? And you have them arguing with each other?
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Also, the burden of proof is always on the idiot claiming that some magical unobservable thing exists, not on the person who sees such idiotic claims and claims it doesn't exist. This is the case for magical self containers, deities, and sentient floating amalgams of pasta and meatballs.
Uhh, you do know that there are opposing philosophies in the world, right? People even still subscribe to failed philosophies to such an extent that they are willing to kill millions for them, despite vast amounts of evidence showing that their philosophy is flat out wrong.
Philosophy is like math but without rigor, or even an equal sign. Sure, sometimes it can be right, but you can express literally anything, including counterfactual nonsense, just as easily as you can express the truth.
Virtually all idiots and morons have believed that shit too.
Being "smart" doesn't make your beliefs true, especially when you allow your cognitive biases to run wild because you don't even know what cognitive biases are, much less how to elucidate their presence or compensate for them.
No, he isn't, you bleeding retard. Or are you saying that brain surgery somehow affects the soul separately from the brain, and that changes in behavior and perception after such surgery is caused by something that affects something that is magically correlated at 1:1 with brain tissue?
Bullshit magical thinking.
Ad hominem, and baffling bullshit. Sure, your arguments are so much better.
Like, whoa, dude, citing "quantum theory" lets you make any argument while pretending to be right. Awesome, man. We're all a bunch of dreaming dolphins floating around in space. Quantum theory says so, man, cause like, ANYTHING can happen, even if it has infinitely low probability. That low probability makes it, like, more likely to happen, cause I read Hitchhikers Guide in high school.
No, you are the one that claims that there is such a thing as a soul. Prove it or shut up.
I just my whole existence, is this bad?
Yes, they will, because I PUBLISHED THE RESULTS OF MY WORK. Failure to share one's discoveries limits the utility of research to a single lifetime, and to a single person, or a close group of associates. It's like patents run to insane lengths, where no-one can ever use the technology again after the death of the original creator.
What those people did doesn't matter to human civilization outside of the novelty that ancient people might have worked with electricity on a primitive basis. They did not seek greater understanding, or even share the usefulness of their work with others in their own time. It might as well have not existed.