Humans don't change. Put a baby from an advanced society into the family of a primitive one, or vice versa, they will grow up more or less the same as their new peers, absent differences caused by more or less disease stress prior to the switch.
Did you know that futures are not a modern invention? The Greeks invented them. Further, every time that paper money has been adopted by any government, it has ended in either hyperinflation or dissolution of the state. This includes such diverse societies as China circa 800AD, China again circa 1300AD, Zimbabwe in the late 2000's, France multiple times out of living memory, Germany just inside living memory, and thousands of other examples? The longest any fiat currency has ever lasted without a bought of hyperinflation (outside of the non-circulating tallystick system) was 60 years. The US dollar has been fully fiat since 1971. You really want to bet me that "this time will be different". You want to bet that we have overcome the laws of economics, and that this time we can do the same thing we have always done, but get something different this time?
BS. It is a military installation, and the President is Commander in Chief. He could close it in an instant if he wanted to. But he doesn't. It would be...inconvenient.
Not really. They demonstrate quite regularly that they are anything but figureheads by using unconstitutional signing statements to write their own laws. Unless there is someone there holding a gun to their heads while they make the claim that an American citizen can be targeted for assassination at any time if the government claims they are a "terrist".
I would suggest you examine the Federal Reserve, and the circumstances under which it was founded.
Here is a good cartoony starting place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
No, much more likely that they are both cowards who saw that our debt is unsustainable, and are doing their damnedest to put off the collapse until the next guy takes office, effectively claiming to get us out of a hole by digging deeper. They will try to dig to China if we let them. Of course, they will submerge us all in molten hot magma long before we ever get there.
I would rather have a government that has enshrined the non-aggression principle into its founding documents, and continues to follow in that tradition. A benevolent dictator could do that, but as gumbi west above stated, that is not in their best interests, so it takes a rare sort of incorruptible person.
He was living in a prototype of one, with the privately owned Bank of England, and he saw the rise and fall of Corporatism in Italy.
People have an odd way of thinking that things are somehow different now than they were in the past. The reality is that every form of government has been tried and tried again, we just don't remember them because the bad ones, like our current one, tend to fail spectacularly resulting in a thousand+ years of darkness.
The problem with dictatorships and democracies (and governments in general) is that any act that is carried out with aggressive force or the threat of aggressive force will have unintended consequences, which are always negative. Representative democracies are better than democracies and dictatorships exactly because that awesome force is restrained. If the government were tied up and unable to do anything except enforce basic laws (no murder, theft, fraud, etc) and protect against invasion, then that is the best possible scenario. Because you know they are going to fuck up anything else they get their hands on.
Government gives money to charities? I don't think so, but feel free to provide some evidence of such.
But that is not the point. Private schools and charity schools are accountable to the parents and the donors, respectively. Public schools are only held accountable in a highly indirect manner. People don't directly feel the cost of the schools, and parents don't have a direct line to radically alter teaching methods, if they have any means of altering them at all.
Government regulation is a feature of fascism (corporations help the government write the regs to suppress competition).
Lobbying is a feature of fascism (corporations petitioning powerful governments to do their will by interfering with the market in some way).
Political corruption always exists. The extent to which it effects the people is the same as the extent to which government is allowed to interfere in the markets and in people's private lives.
Saying that capitalism devolves into fascism is like saying that a clean room devolved into a dirty one. You thus imply the absurd conclusion that in order to keep your room from becoming dirty, you should refrain from cleaning it.
Thanks for lining out your crappy argument in such a concise manner. Made it very easy to knock down.
What the fuck are you talking about? Catholic schools (the largest example) don't teach intelligent design. Evolution is accepted by Rome. I only included them because they are a free to the student capitalist equivalent to public schools, and they produce better students than fascist public institutions.
Apparently the "R word" is verboten around here, judging by your emotional response. Get a life.
No, they need it to subvert the government, ie kickbacks for members of the selection committees/professors.
This is a feature of fascism. Governments shouldn't be selecting textbooks, nor should teachers/professors be allowed to take kickbacks for forcing students to buy one textbook or another.
At university, not in K-12, where a committee decides, usually for the entire state.
Thus, university text books are more accurate, but much MUCH more expensive, because the profs get kickbacks, while K-12 texts are just an absolute fucking mess IN ADDITION to being just as expensive as college textbooks.
Socialism is better than fascism. Congratulations. Both lose in a major way to capitalism.
Stop thinking about "society" and think about individual actors. "Society" doesn't want ANYTHING because it is an abstraction. Meet individual needs according to individual desires, and "society" gets what "it" wants to near perfection.
Stop confusing our fascist system with capitalism. If you want examples of capitalist education, you must look to private and charity-run schools.
Perhaps you missed the part where corporate and government have fused to deliver a shitty product that we are all forced to buy whether we want it or not?
Nothing to do with capitalism. If you want to look at something that is mostly capitalist, look to private schools, including free schools funded by charities and churches.
How can you say Capitalism doesn't deliver good education? We don't have Capitalism in this country, and haven't for a hundred years. We have a mixed market.
As I recall, there was a test from that era circulating about that had questions that were very difficult for modern people to answer, whether they had a fascist or a communist education.
Who said it was invisible? Go to the store. It's EVERYWHERE.
Also, one should note that in ~100% of past inflationary and hyperinflationary episodes, the fastest moving prices are in energy, food, and precious metals. That is why it is a good idea to examine prices in terms of gold, as that will tell you whether the tail is wagging the dog with regards to inflation.
But no-one wants to look or think that deeply. Those who fail to are in for a rude awakening.
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The largest charity run school system is run by the Catholic Church. Pretty sure they don't get government money, but I could be wrong.
Humans don't change. Put a baby from an advanced society into the family of a primitive one, or vice versa, they will grow up more or less the same as their new peers, absent differences caused by more or less disease stress prior to the switch.
Did you know that futures are not a modern invention? The Greeks invented them. Further, every time that paper money has been adopted by any government, it has ended in either hyperinflation or dissolution of the state. This includes such diverse societies as China circa 800AD, China again circa 1300AD, Zimbabwe in the late 2000's, France multiple times out of living memory, Germany just inside living memory, and thousands of other examples? The longest any fiat currency has ever lasted without a bought of hyperinflation (outside of the non-circulating tallystick system) was 60 years. The US dollar has been fully fiat since 1971. You really want to bet me that "this time will be different". You want to bet that we have overcome the laws of economics, and that this time we can do the same thing we have always done, but get something different this time?
BS. It is a military installation, and the President is Commander in Chief. He could close it in an instant if he wanted to. But he doesn't. It would be...inconvenient.
Not really. They demonstrate quite regularly that they are anything but figureheads by using unconstitutional signing statements to write their own laws. Unless there is someone there holding a gun to their heads while they make the claim that an American citizen can be targeted for assassination at any time if the government claims they are a "terrist".
I would suggest you examine the Federal Reserve, and the circumstances under which it was founded. Here is a good cartoony starting place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
No, much more likely that they are both cowards who saw that our debt is unsustainable, and are doing their damnedest to put off the collapse until the next guy takes office, effectively claiming to get us out of a hole by digging deeper. They will try to dig to China if we let them. Of course, they will submerge us all in molten hot magma long before we ever get there.
I would rather have a government that has enshrined the non-aggression principle into its founding documents, and continues to follow in that tradition. A benevolent dictator could do that, but as gumbi west above stated, that is not in their best interests, so it takes a rare sort of incorruptible person.
He was living in a prototype of one, with the privately owned Bank of England, and he saw the rise and fall of Corporatism in Italy.
People have an odd way of thinking that things are somehow different now than they were in the past. The reality is that every form of government has been tried and tried again, we just don't remember them because the bad ones, like our current one, tend to fail spectacularly resulting in a thousand+ years of darkness.
I'm not so sure about that myself. MAYBE once, but I would dispute even that.
The problem with dictatorships and democracies (and governments in general) is that any act that is carried out with aggressive force or the threat of aggressive force will have unintended consequences, which are always negative. Representative democracies are better than democracies and dictatorships exactly because that awesome force is restrained. If the government were tied up and unable to do anything except enforce basic laws (no murder, theft, fraud, etc) and protect against invasion, then that is the best possible scenario. Because you know they are going to fuck up anything else they get their hands on.
No need to get bitchy. You're both right.
And yet he has carried on and expanded most of Bush's policies.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of his intellect.
Government gives money to charities? I don't think so, but feel free to provide some evidence of such.
But that is not the point. Private schools and charity schools are accountable to the parents and the donors, respectively. Public schools are only held accountable in a highly indirect manner. People don't directly feel the cost of the schools, and parents don't have a direct line to radically alter teaching methods, if they have any means of altering them at all.
Government regulation is a feature of fascism (corporations help the government write the regs to suppress competition).
Lobbying is a feature of fascism (corporations petitioning powerful governments to do their will by interfering with the market in some way).
Political corruption always exists. The extent to which it effects the people is the same as the extent to which government is allowed to interfere in the markets and in people's private lives.
Saying that capitalism devolves into fascism is like saying that a clean room devolved into a dirty one. You thus imply the absurd conclusion that in order to keep your room from becoming dirty, you should refrain from cleaning it.
Thanks for lining out your crappy argument in such a concise manner. Made it very easy to knock down.
What the fuck are you talking about? Catholic schools (the largest example) don't teach intelligent design. Evolution is accepted by Rome. I only included them because they are a free to the student capitalist equivalent to public schools, and they produce better students than fascist public institutions.
Apparently the "R word" is verboten around here, judging by your emotional response. Get a life.
And I am an atheist.
No, they need it to subvert the government, ie kickbacks for members of the selection committees/professors.
This is a feature of fascism. Governments shouldn't be selecting textbooks, nor should teachers/professors be allowed to take kickbacks for forcing students to buy one textbook or another.
At university, not in K-12, where a committee decides, usually for the entire state.
Thus, university text books are more accurate, but much MUCH more expensive, because the profs get kickbacks, while K-12 texts are just an absolute fucking mess IN ADDITION to being just as expensive as college textbooks.
Looks like they only go up to episode 12 to me.
Socialism is better than fascism. Congratulations. Both lose in a major way to capitalism.
Stop thinking about "society" and think about individual actors. "Society" doesn't want ANYTHING because it is an abstraction. Meet individual needs according to individual desires, and "society" gets what "it" wants to near perfection.
Stop confusing our fascist system with capitalism. If you want examples of capitalist education, you must look to private and charity-run schools.
Perhaps you missed the part where corporate and government have fused to deliver a shitty product that we are all forced to buy whether we want it or not?
Nothing to do with capitalism. If you want to look at something that is mostly capitalist, look to private schools, including free schools funded by charities and churches.
How can you say Capitalism doesn't deliver good education? We don't have Capitalism in this country, and haven't for a hundred years. We have a mixed market.
As I recall, there was a test from that era circulating about that had questions that were very difficult for modern people to answer, whether they had a fascist or a communist education.
I think that is in their standard form letter for their complaints department.
When asked to comment, Paypal representatives responded, "If you don't like it, you can yiff in Hell".
Who said it was invisible? Go to the store. It's EVERYWHERE.
Also, one should note that in ~100% of past inflationary and hyperinflationary episodes, the fastest moving prices are in energy, food, and precious metals. That is why it is a good idea to examine prices in terms of gold, as that will tell you whether the tail is wagging the dog with regards to inflation.
But no-one wants to look or think that deeply. Those who fail to are in for a rude awakening.
They tried that, he wound up destroying the universe, and was then forced to play D&D for eternity.