You know, there's a nice peaceful nation called "Switzerland" where gun laws are quite non-restrictive. They have very little violence, and it's heaven compared to the UK which is the most violent country in Europe. They've got good rifles, almost every citizen has one, and they don't go up clocktowers to shoot up people.
Maybe the problem is with the British people - and since a good lot of Americans are of British descent, that may be hereditary. Maybe Anglos are not very bright. Certainly, the British schooling system doesn't rank high by European standards. Aren't you sure that it's UK society that needs a big overhaul, instead of having to treat your "citizens" (sorry, subjects) like retarded kids?
You loserboys never cease to amaze me with your lack of intelligence. If you undergo firearm training, you get a certificate that says you have been trained and passed your exams. To the government, it means you are certified to own a gun - not that you actually have one.
Criminals will get their guns no matter what. They're outlaws, by definition they don't obey the law.
Not much, since you didn't understand but then I'm not responsible for your lack of wit. I don't support any mandatory registration for guns, but I support mandatory training and stringent exams for any would-be owner covering technical issues, legal issues and handling proficiency. Firearms require discipline to be properly used and stored, and I'm fine with every owner to go through that. If they're determined, they'll go through. If they don't, they won't. A firearm you don't know how to use is a useless firearm.
Gun registration, no. Background checks on the buyer, yes. Actually, to apply for most jobs you have to submit the same papers you need to get a gun (clean criminal record, valid ID) and guns are not "designed to kill", they're designed to shoot bullets. Guns are actually a most inefficient way to kill humans, poison is better and you can make very nasty stuff with commercially available chemicals. And who said "Average Joe" needs to be "protected"? In the UK, what the population needs is less protection, more education, less classism and less alcohol.
The industry shills and assorted astroturfers are out in force I see. Tell me, corporate slave, will your paycheck be enough when we finally catch you? Will that money be worth your life? Expect no mercy.
Yes, exactly. It's criminal and disgusting. But their money means that as far as the government is concerned, they're right. They are ordering campus authorities to exact private justice for them, for free. And their money says they're right.
Now, do you believe anyone working for those mobsters deserves to keep breathing?
YOU do not need to invent anything. In fact, it might even be illegal for you to do so. The corporation will do the inventing for you, consumer drone. Comply or this friendly private security guard will give you a taste of baton. Obey, consumer.
If by "a group of people who have the benefit of unlimited time and resources" you mean the industry, you're right. Check it out: they're winning. And they're winning because there is no meaningful fight going on. Everytime the media mob buys a law or takes down someone the answer is always "someone else will spring up, we'll use encryption" and assorted yadda yadda. What is happening is that the enemy tanks are in town and everybody is saying "oh, but when our secret weapons will show up we'll prevail" or "oh, doesn't matter, we'll go run into the sewers".
They can - and they will - legislate the Internet into Cable TV 2.0. They will control the ISPs and choke it into braindead status. They have shown the ability to force entire countries into compliance - that's real power. That's what they can do. It's not possible to fight them with law, because it's been bought. It's not possible to fight them with technological resources - their own are limitless. The only thing that is viable is direct action.
... Once upon a time they drilled into our heads the concept that one cannot take justice in his own hands or do what is the police's business. Now everybody is expected to be an unpaid and unbadged cop in service of the almighty corporations. We're expected to serve the interests of the media mafia, or else.
Well, if they want to pay mafioso, it's a multiplayer game. Once their mighty corporate heads start getting targeted, they might want to change their tune.
Yes, because the movie industry is such in a terrible shape./sarcasm
Wise up, kid: the movie industry is experiencing an all-time high in the profits department. What "pirates" (actually it should be "middle man haters") are doing is remove the need for another branch of the industry to control how the content is distributed. You want the blu-ray 666 disk collector's edition with human skin cover of the latest blockbuster? Buy it. You want to see the movie at the local multiplex? Get your ticket. Want it on your computer? Download it. Find a way to make the downloading lucrative by other means, like with ad supporting. It works with games. Above all, no user should accept the media mob's latest stance, that they have control over stuff you have BOUGHT and over the devices you OWN to play the media on, FOREVER plus one day. This is not free market, it's communism for the rich. It must be destroyed and all of its proponents killed and their heads stuck on poles so that we can shit on them while passing by.
So what? They tried, it was harder than expected (to the loserboys, maybe, I'm sure the science and technology jocks knew how hard it would be) and it didn't work out like a smooth ride. The loserboys of course cry and scream and shake their heads or, wore, laugh and write it off as a waste of time and money; the jocks know that defeat is just a temporary and often necessary step to victory, so they shrug it off, learn the lesson and go back into the game stronger and more determined. Hayabusa II will be smarter, stronger, better and will have sculpted pectorals and bulging biceps. It will take that scrawny asteroid by the neck, steal its lunch money... er, dust, beat it up and stuff it into a locker. Because that's what jocks do.
Honestly, what can one person do? When you have a family to feed and a job to hold on to, can you afford to take on the MAFIAA legal juggernaut that has proven itself ready, willing and able to drag grandmas into court? When you have to appear in court, you cannot work and risk being fired. The MAFIAA has enough power to get the laws warped in their favour every given Sunday and even if they lose, they don't care. The message is clear: disobey us and we squash you like a bug. With these premises, it's natural that the majority of the people decide that their "online rights" are not worth having to get your next meal from the dumpster. And that's why violent action against the corporate gangsters is now the only way. You sue a citizen? We firebomb your offices - with everybody inside. Are you a lawyer working for the MAFIAA? Your family will be killed. Are you a low-level MAFIAA employee? You will die in a "robbery attempt" or your hands will be blown off by a letter bomb. Are you a MAFIAA high-level executive? You will be kidnapped and tortured to death. Until they're made to bleed real blood, they won't notice. They're smelling victory. With treaties like ACTA on the way, the whole world will soon fall under their rule.
One of the children nearly died? Well, nothing of value would have been lost anyway. In case you haven't noticed, kids aren't an endangered species. The world is full of the little shitters.
"Neurodiversity", I like that. This is a masterpiece of wit. You are a true linebacker of the word. With a mighty shove of your superior sense of humor you shoved the original poster loserboy into the ground among the cheers of the crowd, and rightfully so. You deserve the Jock Salute.
That citizens (oh, sorry, "consumers") could use the tech to bypass the up and coming internet filters, packet inspections and other assorted freedom-killing shite. How do you dare challenging the might of the corporate-backed government, consumer? Step in line or this friendly private security officer will bash your head in, kill your wife and rape your dog.
You're probably a little kid masturbating to scat porn in his parents' basement and trolling to inflate your shrunken self-esteem, but check out any major catastrophe - New Orleans, Haiti, L'Aquila - and you'll see how ham radio operators managed to keep communications working, in concert with authorities, to help get information about the damage and affected areas and coordinate the aid efforts. The internet was knocked out, together with cellphones, in the first minutes of the emergency.
Now put yur head between your legs and shit on your own face. My excrements are too precious to waste on the likes of you.
Move your ass to a less democratic nation. If you live in the UK, you may stay there and hope it keeps going downhill. Sooner or later, you will receive a paper that will tell you the 3 things that you're allowed to do and the penalties for stepping out of line.
Until then, the price of freedom is having to put up with other people's freedoms. By the way, if I wanted to shoot your ugly mug, I could use a hidden cam and you would never know it. At least with regular cameras, you can hide away.
Oh, and you don't "take advantage" of rights. You enjoy them. Get over it, Scheisseführer.
Yes, I did vote them out. Did anything change? No. If big business says they own your house because they're wealthier and more united than you are, does it make it right? Given the power, I'd throw it into the toilet. Too much hassle. I don't like telling people what to do, because I don't like being told what to do. Why are you a corporate apologist, by the way? Do you work for them? If so, are you aware that you're a legitimate target?
Did you elect Sony's CEO? I didn't. Did you give your representative a mandate to uphold your rights or to uphold Virgin's shareholders' profits? Because I see no such mandate in my constitution. Did you vote for them because you wanted your country's laws changed as ordered by Big Media? Because I didn't. And lo and behold, all parties left and right jumped at Big Money's orders except for some fringe movements which can and will be safely ignored because they simply lack the numbers, and won't be able to reach critical mass in time.
Last time I checked, throwing your citizens' rights into the toilet to favor Big Business (especially foreign big business) in exchange for "campaign contributions" is bribery and selling your country's sovereignty to private entities is treason in my book.
Since there is no lawful way to remove those turds from their seats, I say burn them.
>The democratic process is dead. What options are left to us?
Boomsticks and boompacks. What else? The self-appointed elite sees no reason to listen to the little people, the little people must use extreme measures.
How long has it been "gathering momentum"? The media industry is going fast, after a slow start, and with its massive economic and political power it's winning everywhere. It has changed Swedish laws with no effort at all - imagine that, changing the laws of an entire sovereign nation, without democratic recourse. This is real power, no seat in the European Parliament can stand against it. So the PP of Finland has "good chances" to elect ONE member NEXT YEAR? Do you realize that by next year there will be nothing to save? And what is ONE voice in a national parliament going to do against an overwhelming pro-business majority and international treaties that cannot be revoked by popular vote?
To fuck up thugs paid with our taxes who should investigate real goons instead of messing with citizens who have a right to be left alone until they commit a serious offense?
It's our way to take a big, smelly dump on their loserboy faces.
25 years is more than reasonable, given that movie companies will want to turn a successful novel into a movie NOW, not in one quarter of a century time. Actually, the media industry doesn't want "copyright" to be enforced plain and simple, they want THEIR copyrights to be enforced and extended until eternity and beyond. Nothing would please them more than "selective enforcement" of copyright. Why not, Eminent Domain laws already dictate that the strongest economic party's right to make money trumps the property rights of individuals.
What they don't want - what they fear - is that artists could actually market themselves successfully without the media megacorps and to avoid this they will gut the internet. They WILL do it. They ARE doing it. And they will succeed because their money makes them gods in the political arena. They must be destroyed, or they will turn the clock back 50 years and more.
Slashdot Mirror
You know, there's a nice peaceful nation called "Switzerland" where gun laws are quite non-restrictive. They have very little violence, and it's heaven compared to the UK which is the most violent country in Europe. They've got good rifles, almost every citizen has one, and they don't go up clocktowers to shoot up people.
Maybe the problem is with the British people - and since a good lot of Americans are of British descent, that may be hereditary. Maybe Anglos are not very bright. Certainly, the British schooling system doesn't rank high by European standards. Aren't you sure that it's UK society that needs a big overhaul, instead of having to treat your "citizens" (sorry, subjects) like retarded kids?
You loserboys never cease to amaze me with your lack of intelligence. If you undergo firearm training, you get a certificate that says you have been trained and passed your exams. To the government, it means you are certified to own a gun - not that you actually have one.
Criminals will get their guns no matter what. They're outlaws, by definition they don't obey the law.
Not much, since you didn't understand but then I'm not responsible for your lack of wit. I don't support any mandatory registration for guns, but I support mandatory training and stringent exams for any would-be owner covering technical issues, legal issues and handling proficiency. Firearms require discipline to be properly used and stored, and I'm fine with every owner to go through that. If they're determined, they'll go through. If they don't, they won't. A firearm you don't know how to use is a useless firearm.
Gun registration, no. Background checks on the buyer, yes. Actually, to apply for most jobs you have to submit the same papers you need to get a gun (clean criminal record, valid ID) and guns are not "designed to kill", they're designed to shoot bullets. Guns are actually a most inefficient way to kill humans, poison is better and you can make very nasty stuff with commercially available chemicals.
And who said "Average Joe" needs to be "protected"? In the UK, what the population needs is less protection, more education, less classism and less alcohol.
The industry shills and assorted astroturfers are out in force I see. Tell me, corporate slave, will your paycheck be enough when we finally catch you? Will that money be worth your life? Expect no mercy.
Yee-haw! Squeal like a pig! Weee!
Yes, exactly. It's criminal and disgusting. But their money means that as far as the government is concerned, they're right. They are ordering campus authorities to exact private justice for them, for free. And their money says they're right.
Now, do you believe anyone working for those mobsters deserves to keep breathing?
YOU do not need to invent anything. In fact, it might even be illegal for you to do so. The corporation will do the inventing for you, consumer drone. Comply or this friendly private security guard will give you a taste of baton. Obey, consumer.
If by "a group of people who have the benefit of unlimited time and resources" you mean the industry, you're right.
Check it out: they're winning. And they're winning because there is no meaningful fight going on. Everytime the media mob buys a law or takes down someone the answer is always "someone else will spring up, we'll use encryption" and assorted yadda yadda.
What is happening is that the enemy tanks are in town and everybody is saying "oh, but when our secret weapons will show up we'll prevail" or "oh, doesn't matter, we'll go run into the sewers".
They can - and they will - legislate the Internet into Cable TV 2.0. They will control the ISPs and choke it into braindead status. They have shown the ability to force entire countries into compliance - that's real power. That's what they can do. It's not possible to fight them with law, because it's been bought. It's not possible to fight them with technological resources - their own are limitless. The only thing that is viable is direct action.
Actually it means "We - the elite - can".
... Once upon a time they drilled into our heads the concept that one cannot take justice in his own hands or do what is the police's business. Now everybody is expected to be an unpaid and unbadged cop in service of the almighty corporations. We're expected to serve the interests of the media mafia, or else.
Well, if they want to pay mafioso, it's a multiplayer game. Once their mighty corporate heads start getting targeted, they might want to change their tune.
Capisce?
Yes, because the movie industry is such in a terrible shape. /sarcasm
Wise up, kid: the movie industry is experiencing an all-time high in the profits department. What "pirates" (actually it should be "middle man haters") are doing is remove the need for another branch of the industry to control how the content is distributed. You want the blu-ray 666 disk collector's edition with human skin cover of the latest blockbuster? Buy it. You want to see the movie at the local multiplex? Get your ticket. Want it on your computer? Download it. Find a way to make the downloading lucrative by other means, like with ad supporting. It works with games. Above all, no user should accept the media mob's latest stance, that they have control over stuff you have BOUGHT and over the devices you OWN to play the media on, FOREVER plus one day. This is not free market, it's communism for the rich. It must be destroyed and all of its proponents killed and their heads stuck on poles so that we can shit on them while passing by.
So what? They tried, it was harder than expected (to the loserboys, maybe, I'm sure the science and technology jocks knew how hard it would be) and it didn't work out like a smooth ride. The loserboys of course cry and scream and shake their heads or, wore, laugh and write it off as a waste of time and money; the jocks know that defeat is just a temporary and often necessary step to victory, so they shrug it off, learn the lesson and go back into the game stronger and more determined. Hayabusa II will be smarter, stronger, better and will have sculpted pectorals and bulging biceps. It will take that scrawny asteroid by the neck, steal its lunch money... er, dust, beat it up and stuff it into a locker. Because that's what jocks do.
Honestly, what can one person do? When you have a family to feed and a job to hold on to, can you afford to take on the MAFIAA legal juggernaut that has proven itself ready, willing and able to drag grandmas into court? When you have to appear in court, you cannot work and risk being fired. The MAFIAA has enough power to get the laws warped in their favour every given Sunday and even if they lose, they don't care. The message is clear: disobey us and we squash you like a bug.
With these premises, it's natural that the majority of the people decide that their "online rights" are not worth having to get your next meal from the dumpster.
And that's why violent action against the corporate gangsters is now the only way. You sue a citizen? We firebomb your offices - with everybody inside. Are you a lawyer working for the MAFIAA? Your family will be killed. Are you a low-level MAFIAA employee? You will die in a "robbery attempt" or your hands will be blown off by a letter bomb. Are you a MAFIAA high-level executive? You will be kidnapped and tortured to death.
Until they're made to bleed real blood, they won't notice. They're smelling victory. With treaties like ACTA on the way, the whole world will soon fall under their rule.
One of the children nearly died? Well, nothing of value would have been lost anyway. In case you haven't noticed, kids aren't an endangered species. The world is full of the little shitters.
"Neurodiversity", I like that. This is a masterpiece of wit. You are a true linebacker of the word. With a mighty shove of your superior sense of humor you shoved the original poster loserboy into the ground among the cheers of the crowd, and rightfully so. You deserve the Jock Salute.
That citizens (oh, sorry, "consumers") could use the tech to bypass the up and coming internet filters, packet inspections and other assorted freedom-killing shite. How do you dare challenging the might of the corporate-backed government, consumer? Step in line or this friendly private security officer will bash your head in, kill your wife and rape your dog.
You're probably a little kid masturbating to scat porn in his parents' basement and trolling to inflate your shrunken self-esteem, but check out any major catastrophe - New Orleans, Haiti, L'Aquila - and you'll see how ham radio operators managed to keep communications working, in concert with authorities, to help get information about the damage and affected areas and coordinate the aid efforts. The internet was knocked out, together with cellphones, in the first minutes of the emergency.
Now put yur head between your legs and shit on your own face. My excrements are too precious to waste on the likes of you.
Move your ass to a less democratic nation. If you live in the UK, you may stay there and hope it keeps going downhill. Sooner or later, you will receive a paper that will tell you the 3 things that you're allowed to do and the penalties for stepping out of line.
Until then, the price of freedom is having to put up with other people's freedoms. By the way, if I wanted to shoot your ugly mug, I could use a hidden cam and you would never know it. At least with regular cameras, you can hide away.
Oh, and you don't "take advantage" of rights. You enjoy them. Get over it, Scheisseführer.
The voter goes on a rampage at the corporations' offices, of course.
Yes, I did vote them out. Did anything change? No.
If big business says they own your house because they're wealthier and more united than you are, does it make it right?
Given the power, I'd throw it into the toilet. Too much hassle. I don't like telling people what to do, because I don't like being told what to do.
Why are you a corporate apologist, by the way? Do you work for them? If so, are you aware that you're a legitimate target?
Did you elect Sony's CEO? I didn't. Did you give your representative a mandate to uphold your rights or to uphold Virgin's shareholders' profits? Because I see no such mandate in my constitution. Did you vote for them because you wanted your country's laws changed as ordered by Big Media? Because I didn't. And lo and behold, all parties left and right jumped at Big Money's orders except for some fringe movements which can and will be safely ignored because they simply lack the numbers, and won't be able to reach critical mass in time.
Last time I checked, throwing your citizens' rights into the toilet to favor Big Business (especially foreign big business) in exchange for "campaign contributions" is bribery and selling your country's sovereignty to private entities is treason in my book.
Since there is no lawful way to remove those turds from their seats, I say burn them.
>The democratic process is dead. What options are left to us?
Boomsticks and boompacks. What else? The self-appointed elite sees no reason to listen to the little people, the little people must use extreme measures.
How long has it been "gathering momentum"? The media industry is going fast, after a slow start, and with its massive economic and political power it's winning everywhere. It has changed Swedish laws with no effort at all - imagine that, changing the laws of an entire sovereign nation, without democratic recourse. This is real power, no seat in the European Parliament can stand against it.
So the PP of Finland has "good chances" to elect ONE member NEXT YEAR? Do you realize that by next year there will be nothing to save? And what is ONE voice in a national parliament going to do against an overwhelming pro-business majority and international treaties that cannot be revoked by popular vote?
You want to act? Grab your weapons.
To fuck up thugs paid with our taxes who should investigate real goons instead of messing with citizens who have a right to be left alone until they commit a serious offense?
It's our way to take a big, smelly dump on their loserboy faces.
25 years is more than reasonable, given that movie companies will want to turn a successful novel into a movie NOW, not in one quarter of a century time. Actually, the media industry doesn't want "copyright" to be enforced plain and simple, they want THEIR copyrights to be enforced and extended until eternity and beyond. Nothing would please them more than "selective enforcement" of copyright. Why not, Eminent Domain laws already dictate that the strongest economic party's right to make money trumps the property rights of individuals.
What they don't want - what they fear - is that artists could actually market themselves successfully without the media megacorps and to avoid this they will gut the internet. They WILL do it. They ARE doing it. And they will succeed because their money makes them gods in the political arena. They must be destroyed, or they will turn the clock back 50 years and more.