That's not going to happen. If you've read anything about his personal life, you'd know that his parents raised him with a sense of ethics.
People with ethics are boring for sleazemongers.
Did you know that there are decent honest people in Hollywood involved in the entertainment industry? They're the ones not in the tabloids. You have to look to find them, and even then you have to duck a bunch of nihilists who will try to drag them down if they can discover you admire them. Because "there is no good or bad, morality is relative" etc. etc.
Some people are creators, some people are integrators. Some people are really good at createing integrated wholes.
Most of the people who sit around whining about all the stuff "stolen" by Microsoft have not done a creative thing in their life that comes close.
Mr. Gates does not take credit for 'everything except the transistor' and if you can't see beyond your petty attitude to recognize that it's probably a lost cause trying to convince you of anything.
The people who try to make Bill Gates into the devil are just as pathetic as those who try to make him into God. It's the flip side of the same coin. I mean, really, people. Seek profesional help.
The fact is, though, that there isn't enough content for 'niche' channels like Sci-Fi to be anything but Hobbit Emporiums of mediocrity.
Sadly, the day when we could feel unified by our experiences as a culture (say, by all watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan) are over. Not that diversity in propaganda isn't a positive result (harder to brainwash us all the same if there isn't a five channel monoculture to force us to watch), but there's something to be said for a unified experience, nonetheless.
Well, of course the special effects in most books are more real than any of the pap they put on the screen in movies or television programs. When you read a book the effects are rendered in pure wetware. With any movie or television program, it has to go through many layers of conversion before it gets to the wetware (where it all happens anyway, ya know). Conversion losses all over the place. Who really cares that they were able to simulate all that stuff and make flashy light appear on a wall? Thats for rubes who can't render a damn thing in their minds. Poor fools.
Do you seriously contemplate Corel Draw as ever running on Linux?
I suppose it's a remote possibility, but it would require an entire re-write, as the Windows graphics calls and the X graphics calls are radically different.
I don't see it happening. I particularly don't see it coming from Corel. They've been "sitting" on the Corel Draw treasure chest too long and not doing much else but buy products on the salvage market (Wordperfect) and poke around with putting out a Linux distribution.
Ever since they proved they couldn't produce and sell what should have been a fine hardware product (the Netwinder) they've been just fumbling around.
The XFree project's goal is to produce "a freely redistributable implementation of the X Window System that runs on UNIX(R) and UNIX-like operating systems (and OS/2)."
There is also a port now to Windows NT running Interix, although I haven't tried building or running it.
Why does an end-user care if someone else can still telnet into his box? If the desktop crashes, the desktop crashes.
My point was that Netscape is one of the few real-world apps that runs on the Linux desktop, and it often enough brings the system (end-user experience here, mind you, sure the kernel is chugging away nicely in the background- who cares?) and it introduces the "Windows experience" of instability.
Let's wait and see what happens as more commercial-grade apps make it onto the Linux desktop. I predict when it plays the same game as the 'big boys' a lot of the stability hype fades away.
A part of the reason I quit running Linux on the desktop (it still has a server role on my home network, along with the BSDs) was when I realized that I was positively elated any time I could get an app or window manager to have the ease-of-use that I experienced five years ago on Windows 3.1.
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What are the sales figures for ApplixWare and Star Office?
I know I bought a copy of ApplixWare over a year ago. I know lots of us have downloaded Star Office for free.
Are they in any shape or form commercial successes?
Your server-side experience with Linux is probably rosy. Try putting all your users on Linux desktops if you want to see the other side.
One of the few user-oriented applications on the Linux desktop that stresses the OS the way many apps on Windows stress the system is Netscape, and it takes down many a Linux system.
Yes, the problem with the Windows server OS is probably that they try to make it all things. It's ludicrous for it to be a design goal for Windows NT Server to run DOS 2.1 applications. But it is.
As to the "lack of standards" issue. Stop retreating into "Unix in general" when someone criticizes Linux for a lack of standards. Linux is heavily involved with the GNU people, and they have almost a sense of pride in the way they thumb their noses at Standards Committees (i.e. GCC's refusal to participate in the C Standards Committee)
I've got an Intel Bubble Memory Evaluation Kit thing from the mid 80's. Basically it's a block of Bubble memory mounted on an ISA card, with accompanying docs and software. It's got drivers to make it a 'solid state disk drive' (it has 4 megabits of space in the bubble, so it can make a 512K drive) on an XT or an AT system under DOS. Has anybody written Linux drivers for it yet? I was tempted at one point to make an attempt.
It may be old news, but a Slashdot Product Endorsement must be worth something these days. Perhaps the Geeks In Space each get a free one for it being an article on the site.
I don't think you can necessarily draw that coorelation. USB has slowly gained acceptance at the same time as two market changes occured.
1. The introduction of the iMac, and 2. The growth in adoption of Windows 98
With the iMac, Apple basically forced people to adopt USB-based peripherals for certain functions, namely removable storage devices (Zip drives and floppy drives.)
With Windows 98 all kinds of new stuff is cropping up in the market. Scanners, speaker systems (which function without needing a sound card), modems, mice and keyboards. Digital cameras too. Generally at this point for a number of completely external peripherals the choice on the shelf is between the hoary old parallel port or USB. USB fits nicely into the niche for medium-end external peripherals.
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I find it humorous, but sad, that anything that is difficult to impelement on Linux (USB is also difficult to implement on NT) is denegrated and characterized as "not even used."
I have a USB Scanner, and USB speakers on one of my systems. They work great! It was a glorious day when I could yank the SCSI card and the Sound card out of that system. Now I want to get a current laptop so I can plug the scanner into it and use it as a portable document acquisition system. (bring it into the Library and scan the text I want directly into Acrobat files on the hard drive).
USB is slowly maturing. The iMac has helped in that regard some, but also the adoption of Windows 98. And when Windows 2000 comes out the floodgates will be opened.
I haven't experimented with USB on NetBSD but probably should do so soon. One of my NetBSD boxes has the USB port, I just need to get adventurous enough to try it.
The people in Indiana who wanted to change Pi to 3 are the people with the same level of ignorance as someone who would refer to the government as a company, i.e. "the government and all the other companies." 3.24?? Where did you hear Pi approximated as that?!?
(for all practical terrestial purposes, Pi is 355/113. A nice clean factor of two integers. I discovered that for myself using a SR-56 Calculator Program I wrote in the late 70's, before I could afford a computer)
Intel P-III processors do NOTHING to enhance your Internet experience.
However, that was what people said about MMX when it first came out, too (myself included.)
Right now the lower-end PIII processors are slightly higher than the highest end celery chips. I'm sorry, but I never buy an SX-class processor when the next level up is only about $40 more.
And I don't regret anything I've bought recently more than I regret buying a K6-2 processor from whatever-their-name-is. That clone processor company.
Be careful of the desire to "join the working class." All kinds of "new left" types decided to do that in the early 70's after the "60's Revolution" proved to be the hype and pack of lies it amounted to.
It's a common desire, to "get back to basics" and just lead a happy work-a-day life. And it sucks ten years later when you discover you've wasted a lot of time. It sucks even more if you find you can't get out.
You haven't forgotten Huxley and "Brave New World," but like a lot of people, who had only one of the 'surface' themes of the book drilled into them in school, you've thought the book was just about "test tube babies."
There is a hell of a lot more to Huxley's masterpiece: it's about a spiritual void, "everybody belongs to everybody else" social conditioning, and 'the savage' wanting to go back to more primative times in order to find a spiritual center. As a concrete example, the Savage's discovery of Shakespeare was an important part of the book, and it sure ain't about test tube babies.
A ton of English teachers all over the planet need to have their pay docked for misinterpreting Huxley's book. It's not another shallow "Upton Sinclair" type tome about the perils of test tube babies. It's more complex, with more themes, than a lot of Beta-minus English teachers (that's basically the kind of person who gets into the teaching profession, sadly) can even understand.
Go back and re-read it. It isn't that you have forgotten it, you never read it closely enough the first time.
Well, needless to say a retail-boxed version of Debian "legitimizes" it to some customers. I've noticed for years that it's an important advertising feature to have a bitmap of an isometric view of "da box" somewhere on all advertising of commercial software products. "Da box" is an important marketing icon. It's also necessary to get shelf space in that pushy envronment called the retail shelf.
Some people don't think a piece of software even exists unless the see "da box" somewhere to verify their suspicions. Because they believe that's where software comes from.
Does the Debian project want to reinforce these beliefs even further?
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That's not going to happen. If you've read anything about his personal life, you'd know that his parents raised him with a sense of ethics.
People with ethics are boring for sleazemongers.
Did you know that there are decent honest people in Hollywood involved in the entertainment industry? They're the ones not in the tabloids. You have to look to find them, and even then you have to duck a bunch of nihilists who will try to drag them down if they can discover you admire them. Because "there is no good or bad, morality is relative" etc. etc.
Well, not realy "'Kay"...
Some people are creators, some people are integrators. Some people are really good at createing integrated wholes.
Most of the people who sit around whining about all the stuff "stolen" by Microsoft have not done a creative thing in their life that comes close.
Mr. Gates does not take credit for 'everything except the transistor' and if you can't see beyond your petty attitude to recognize that it's probably a lost cause trying to convince you of anything.
The people who try to make Bill Gates into the devil are just as pathetic as those who try to make him into God. It's the flip side of the same coin. I mean, really, people. Seek profesional help.
The fact is, though, that there isn't enough content for 'niche' channels like Sci-Fi to be anything but Hobbit Emporiums of mediocrity.
Sadly, the day when we could feel unified by our experiences as a culture (say, by all watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan) are over. Not that diversity in propaganda isn't a positive result (harder to brainwash us all the same if there isn't a five channel monoculture to force us to watch), but there's something to be said for a unified experience, nonetheless.
Well, of course the special effects in most books are more real than any of the pap they put on the screen in movies or television programs. When you read a book the effects are rendered in pure wetware. With any movie or television program, it has to go through many layers of conversion before it gets to the wetware (where it all happens anyway, ya know). Conversion losses all over the place. Who really cares that they were able to simulate all that stuff and make flashy light appear on a wall? Thats for rubes who can't render a damn thing in their minds. Poor fools.
Do you seriously contemplate Corel Draw as ever running on Linux?
I suppose it's a remote possibility, but it would require an entire re-write, as the Windows graphics calls and the X graphics calls are radically different.
I don't see it happening. I particularly don't see it coming from Corel. They've been "sitting" on the Corel Draw treasure chest too long and not doing much else but buy products on the salvage market (Wordperfect) and poke around with putting out a Linux distribution.
Ever since they proved they couldn't produce and sell what should have been a fine hardware product (the Netwinder) they've been just fumbling around.
The XFree project's goal is to produce "a freely redistributable implementation of the X Window System that runs on UNIX(R) and UNIX-like operating systems (and OS/2)."
There is also a port now to Windows NT running Interix, although I haven't tried building or running it.
My point. Ummm. My point is that "resistance is futile, our success is inevitable" assumptions are dangerous.
Nothing more.
Why does an end-user care if someone else can still telnet into his box? If the desktop crashes, the desktop crashes.
My point was that Netscape is one of the few real-world apps that runs on the Linux desktop, and it often enough brings the system (end-user experience here, mind you, sure the kernel is chugging away nicely in the background- who cares?) and it introduces the "Windows experience" of instability.
Let's wait and see what happens as more commercial-grade apps make it onto the Linux desktop. I predict when it plays the same game as the 'big boys' a lot of the stability hype fades away.
there's still a short-term future for closed source.
Pol Pot said there was still a short-term future for the urban population of Cambodia.
Marx and then Lenin said that the future was inevitable.
Give the mere peasants dumb terminals.
As I said, your popularity will soar.
A part of the reason I quit running Linux on the desktop (it still has a server role on my home network, along with the BSDs) was when I realized that I was positively elated any time I could get an app or window manager to have the ease-of-use that I experienced five years ago on Windows 3.1.
What are the sales figures for ApplixWare and Star Office?
I know I bought a copy of ApplixWare over a year ago. I know lots of us have downloaded Star Office for free.
Are they in any shape or form commercial successes?
While we're at it, the employees should all wear uniforms as well.
in the corporate setting, the admin configures the desktop once, puts all the homes on a server, and users don't have to configure squat.
Actually, a better translation is that the users aren't allowed to configure squat.
You're going to make Linux really popular by taking away the user's ability to fine tune their environment. Yep, people are going to love that.
You wouldn't believe how popular that will make you in the lunchroom. People will probably grovel for the privledge of touching the hem of your robe.
Ah, you just described how to build the application from source.
Great. That's at least half the software that enterprises need to run.
What about the other half that is distributed as binary-only packages?
Oh, that's right, we don't have to worry about that, because they'll all be out of business soon. Yeah, right.
Your server-side experience with Linux is probably rosy. Try putting all your users on Linux desktops if you want to see the other side.
One of the few user-oriented applications on the Linux desktop that stresses the OS the way many apps on Windows stress the system is Netscape, and it takes down many a Linux system.
Yes, the problem with the Windows server OS is probably that they try to make it all things. It's ludicrous for it to be a design goal for Windows NT Server to run DOS 2.1 applications. But it is.
As to the "lack of standards" issue. Stop retreating into "Unix in general" when someone criticizes Linux for a lack of standards. Linux is heavily involved with the GNU people, and they have almost a sense of pride in the way they thumb their noses at Standards Committees (i.e. GCC's refusal to participate in the C Standards Committee)
I've got an Intel Bubble Memory Evaluation Kit thing from the mid 80's. Basically it's a block of Bubble memory mounted on an ISA card, with accompanying docs and software. It's got drivers to make it a 'solid state disk drive' (it has 4 megabits of space in the bubble, so it can make a 512K drive) on an XT or an AT system under DOS. Has anybody written Linux drivers for it yet? I was tempted at one point to make an attempt.
I should try to sell it on eBay to a collector...
It may be old news, but a Slashdot Product Endorsement must be worth something these days. Perhaps the Geeks In Space each get a free one for it being an article on the site.
Untill the iMac USB was not really taking off.
I don't think you can necessarily draw that coorelation. USB has slowly gained acceptance at the same time as two market changes occured.
1. The introduction of the iMac,
and
2. The growth in adoption of Windows 98
With the iMac, Apple basically forced people to adopt USB-based peripherals for certain functions, namely removable storage devices (Zip drives and floppy drives.)
With Windows 98 all kinds of new stuff is cropping up in the market. Scanners, speaker systems (which function without needing a sound card), modems, mice and keyboards. Digital cameras too. Generally at this point for a number of completely external peripherals the choice on the shelf is between the hoary old parallel port or USB. USB fits nicely into the niche for medium-end external peripherals.
I find it humorous, but sad, that anything that is difficult to impelement on Linux (USB is also difficult to implement on NT) is denegrated and characterized as "not even used."
I have a USB Scanner, and USB speakers on one of my systems. They work great! It was a glorious day when I could yank the SCSI card and the Sound card out of that system. Now I want to get a current laptop so I can plug the scanner into it and use it as a portable document acquisition system. (bring it into the Library and scan the text I want directly into Acrobat files on the hard drive).
USB is slowly maturing. The iMac has helped in that regard some, but also the adoption of Windows 98. And when Windows 2000 comes out the floodgates will be opened.
I haven't experimented with USB on NetBSD but probably should do so soon. One of my NetBSD boxes has the USB port, I just need to get adventurous enough to try it.
The people in Indiana who wanted to change Pi to 3 are the people with the same level of ignorance as someone who would refer to the government as a company, i.e. "the government and all the other companies." 3.24?? Where did you hear Pi approximated as that?!?
(for all practical terrestial purposes, Pi is 355/113. A nice clean factor of two integers. I discovered that for myself using a SR-56 Calculator Program I wrote in the late 70's, before I could afford a computer)
Intel P-III processors do NOTHING to enhance your Internet experience.
However, that was what people said about MMX when it first came out, too (myself included.)
Right now the lower-end PIII processors are slightly higher than the highest end celery chips. I'm sorry, but I never buy an SX-class processor when the next level up is only about $40 more.
And I don't regret anything I've bought recently more than I regret buying a K6-2 processor from whatever-their-name-is. That clone processor company.
Be careful of the desire to "join the working class." All kinds of "new left" types decided to do that in the early 70's after the "60's Revolution" proved to be the hype and pack of lies it amounted to.
It's a common desire, to "get back to basics" and just lead a happy work-a-day life. And it sucks ten years later when you discover you've wasted a lot of time. It sucks even more if you find you can't get out.
Don't listen to the hippy sh*t.
You haven't forgotten Huxley and "Brave New World," but like a lot of people, who had only one of the 'surface' themes of the book drilled into them in school, you've thought the book was just about "test tube babies."
There is a hell of a lot more to Huxley's masterpiece: it's about a spiritual void, "everybody belongs to everybody else" social conditioning, and 'the savage' wanting to go back to more primative times in order to find a spiritual center. As a concrete example, the Savage's discovery of Shakespeare was an important part of the book, and it sure ain't about test tube babies.
A ton of English teachers all over the planet need to have their pay docked for misinterpreting Huxley's book. It's not another shallow "Upton Sinclair" type tome about the perils of test tube babies. It's more complex, with more themes, than a lot of Beta-minus English teachers (that's basically the kind of person who gets into the teaching profession, sadly) can even understand.
Go back and re-read it. It isn't that you have forgotten it, you never read it closely enough the first time.
Well, needless to say a retail-boxed version of Debian "legitimizes" it to some customers. I've noticed for years that it's an important advertising feature to have a bitmap of an isometric view of "da box" somewhere on all advertising of commercial software products. "Da box" is an important marketing icon. It's also necessary to get shelf space in that pushy envronment called the retail shelf.
Some people don't think a piece of software even exists unless the see "da box" somewhere to verify their suspicions. Because they believe that's where software comes from.
Does the Debian project want to reinforce these beliefs even further?